Erica Stanford: New Zealand facing migrant crisis | Q+A 2022
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- National’s immigration spokesperson Erica Stanford warns New Zealand is facing a crisis in attracting migrants to the country, amid a “global war for talent”.
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I'm a NZ citizen arrived in the country 9 years ago. The last 4 years the government has done everything to make me want to leave. We are a couple with two kids and we have work our asses off to buy a house. The cost of living crisis have made our quality of life decrease almost to the level we were experiencing in our native country. Heaps of people argue "is the pandemic" but how come I don't see people in other countries with our same professional experience struggling the same. Less inflation, better housing, more affordable living???? I believe if the government doesn't change next term NZ is going to experience an exodus.
@@KiwiKool take back all kiwis from Australia and never let leave any kiwi to leave nz. Would would be better place
@@KiwiKool a typical brain-dead kiwi response ... like havent heard that before ,,,,,, not
You moan about buying a house how do you think new Zealanders feel that are born here trying to buy a house in the country we are born in been pushed out by money hungry house buying immigrants and unmanaged immigration that's why new Zealand NZ government are spending 365 million dollars a year on emergency housing to many low skilled immigrants everywhere can't even speak English most are doing low skilled monkey jobs not even skilled immigrants making new Zealand an ulgy overpacked slum
@@KiwiKool nigga you've probably never set foot in the bush. Stfu.
@@KiwiKool Not all that long now and there won’t be any more money to fill those troughs !
I'm a New Zealander, I moved to Australia 13 years ago. New Zealand hasn't been the same since 2008. I loved every bit of it while growing up, but as soon as I became an adult reality hit me! New Zealand is for rich people who wants to retire and relax. It's only for people who can run a business and pay high tax. It's not for average people who wants to make an income or build a career. New Zealand lacks flexibility in *every possible way.* Whether it's jobs, living, renting, buying, products, food and lifestyle. Everything is just so limited. It's so boring. People are so narrow minded. You can clearly tell the difference how depressed and boring people are when you go for a holiday from Australia. I went back home many times, and every time I dealt with a mentally ill individual. New Zealand has higher rate of mentally ill people due to isolation. It's just nature and beauty which I admire the most, but the cost of living is ridiculous! As much as I love my country, I also think it needs a system reset. It needs more culture and vibrancy. It needs more flexibility and open-minded people. The country needs more resources and new possibilities.
You hit the bull's eye there, mate! What's the use of beautiful nature if you can't have enough to put food on the table? Other countries have gorgeous nature as well. Switzerland and other EU countries have alpine mountains, for example, and one can visit another country on a weekend. Something new, even for a couple of days.
This Ms Stanford is a smart and well researched person. I am pleased to see someone as clear and open when explaining things of importance.
Smart researched and national don’t think so
As a person actually born here... we are letting in far too many people. If you are a doctor, nurse, or teacher then that makes sense, but a chef? Stay in your own countries please! It's hard enough without all the foreigners coming here and taking all the housing supply.
She is spot on. The immigration put me on a queue for 3yrs to get my residency. They rejected my work permit application 4x because my job was apprentice electrician, and they kept giving me false hope by saying "keep trying". And most of all the staff were rude and snobb on the phone and in person eventhough they were also immigrants from India&other countries. They look down on immigrant applicants. It seems to me they give you approval based on race and how rich you are
Your profession needs to be something we need and not require nz to train you. Apprenticeship electrician is a big go-to at the moment in nz, especially because there is free training here for apprenticeships and trade training. What is wrong waiting 3 years for residency? If you want to live here, why does it matter?
@@hermitpermit2553 my case was back in 2004. I finally got my work permit under apprenticeship because I was handled by a kindhearted immigration officer who said he couldnt understand why I was rejected 4x especially I was already NZ qualified service technician and hold electrical engineering degree. I dont have problem if I had to wait for 3 years to get residency but it’s kind of unfair if my flatmate who only worked as a shopkeeper at harvey norman with unrelated uni degree could get residency in 6 months because he could afford an expensive immigration lawyer.
@@henryairconcepts2999 that is very bizzare and makes no sense i agree! There is loopholes in every system in every culture and money and knowing the right people is always the key to getting through. Its sad but universally true. I'm pleased you got your residency :)
@@henryairconcepts2999 I bet he got a sponsor. I know someone who got the reisdency after 3 years from graduation. He obviously bribed and made a deal. He only studied a business degree.
@Graeme Tucker how do you know all this? Yes import cheap migrants and dispose them after a few years.
I moved to NZ...enjoyed the beautiful scenery, high tax, sky high rent, and absolutely no future to ever purchase a house. Yup, left. So, each time JA tells us about her loving policies with over-dramatised hand gestures, all I saw was how much I was going backwards financially in NZ. Got the hell out...significantly improved my income elsewhere. Labour is running left, National is walking left...People are leaving because both major parties' policies are absolute crap.
@ TW F
Yep, time to vote for ACT
Act leader swears at the public in Public meetings..Even when on huge salary he moaned and groaned about not being able to buy a house. He is not very smart.. Rodney no name was going to close public libraries.What a deadlosd party.
@Erin Loo
Obviously David asked you to leave the public meeting because you were being a knob, David doesn't suffer fools.
Yep we moved here in 2007,its was a great country then ,but the last 2 years Jabcinda and her cronies have ruined NEW ZEALAND ,we can't wait to leave here.
Don’t forget the annoying grin she’s always putting on
NZ was extremely welcoming when we moved here 30 years ago. Got off the plane and we were instant permanent residents.
Then NZ was highly attractive to skilled people. Now, not so much.
Still too much I think! By the way, I heard what you said from people all around a world!
Lol go home then
@@keastymatthew2407 you first, then. Go back to the place of your ancestors..
same here
Meanwhile Canada treated migrants very well and attracted so much many young migrants, highly skilled, blue collars you name it. Things going very well here.
Coming from an Aussie.
@@KiwiKool So how does this relates to immigration mate ? lol
Actually I’ve seen some states there is over 1 million people wanting to leave New Zealand and it’s mainly because of the direction the government is going in
I would like to ask a question, I would be a potential African American immigrant who however lives in Italy with only Italian citizenship, with the intention of moving to New Zealand investing obviously so I am a highly qualified person, but I am undecided between some countries where to move and invest and I am california, canada, south africa that arouses my interest so much, and also the nuvoza zealand, I see that the article on youtube says that there is a large influx of immigrants, but skilled immigrants I would say few more immigrants who do menial jobs from what I read I say the right? how do you live in new zealand ?? is a country that you would recommend to me? how is it at the pension level ?? , the house can be purchased only upon obtaining the right residence ??
indeed. it's very , very scary. I would rather live in Bulgaria or Romania and be free even living a frugal life, that being forced injected and locked up for life. This does'nt feel safe at all.
if thats the case that would shrink the population quite dramatically
Thank comrade Ardern for this fiasco.
It's not just immigration issues, it's when they here, they realise how absolutely ridiculous the prices of houses and rents are plus crazy cost of living. Rental cost for absolutely disgusting, unhealthy and unsafe properties is getting out of hand, move in cost getting out of hand!!. New immigrants are getting fleeced and taken advantage of in the Rental property market. Something needs to be done.
Operating room technician here from the uk. You are completely right! myself and my partner who both want to work in Nz were completely put off by the insane prices for rent. It’s just too absurd to even think about moving.. I really hope something changes because we’d love to move.
@@Mucgamon191 UK is a beautiful country, go back home if u don't want to stay in NZ. Adapting & flexibility is the solution. In every country there are pros & cons.
I agree , that comes back to some of our previous immigration policies where overseas student who study here for 3 years can get residency .During Nationals 9 year reign net immigration was up 87k per year it was also around that time that our housing and rental problems started , its all about supply and demand . Having negative or low immigration for a few years isnt such a bad thing , we just need to be more picky on who we let in .
The reason we have the second or third most expensive housing in the world, is because we had numerous waves of immigration. without increasing our housing stock. The Lange-Douglas government of the 1980's, decided to double the population in order to create a larger domestic market. The cost of living is too high in NZ. When Winston Peters tried to point all of this this out 25 years ago, he was of course labeled a racist.
I'm a Kiwi living in Aussie... been here 13 years moved from UK ( 12 years). It's exactly the same here. Rent is through the roof, house prices too. Iceberg Lettice were $12au lol. Only just got a pay rise after 4 years but i still cant afford to buy a house. Aussie is a cool place but its hard to save here. The world has gotten very expensive of late but wages dont grow. There is lots of work here tho...
A good measure of how attractive a country is, is how are young people doing. Well, people in there 20's/30's here have no hope of owning a home, probably can never have kids unless they want to live in perpetual poverty, and are having more and more of their pathetic pay taken by landlords/supermarkets/banks/taxes. Why is it that despite knowing so many people in professional careers, none of us are 'doing well'. We are all just 'getting by'. And that is with the support network of growing up here, that is with intimate knowledge of our culture/rules/advantages. For someone coming here with none of that, it is even harder. There is no way in hell I would ever recommend someone coming here. You will be in for a bad time.
the young ones are to busy doing drugs and not enough preparing themselves for the future i suppose
Too far. Very expensive. Cold. Depressing winters. Everything shuts at 6 pm. These are just a few minuses…
How about employers look to the older new Zealanders who want to work but face age discrimination? Also, people don't want underpaid, part time, fixed term and casual jobs. No-one can plan a future on insecure and poorly paid jobs.
again: why are'nt new zealanders doing those jobs? Why am the only one asking the question???
This is New Zealand. Employers here seem to want everything and offer little in return. I have worked in The UK and Aussie and been paid fairly if not generously but not here. I returned from Oz in 2006 and looked for work as an auto mechanic. I was living on the NS Auckland and saw an ad for a Mercedes mechanic and stated $15 an hour. Realising it must be a mistake I phoned only to be told that the rate advertised was correct. I now do cleaning for $25 an hour. What a country!
It is a pity we can't get the hundreds of thousands. On welfare of their arses
Thousands leaveing school with out qualifications.
Thanks so much guys ,these videos teach us that the grass is not always greener on the other side, we literally live a kings life aside for crime and corruption ,I guess we have to be grateful, for what we have and not believe every u tube video , they just want us to spend our millions we have made here to drop it there in their pockets for a bunch of lies , thanks this can help us spread the word
@@waynescott2540 About 30% of society is too incompetent to participate, sad fact of life the world over.
Who would want to live in NZ, Aus, Canada or the UK while they are under control of the WEF policies.
@@KiwiKool All of these countries are under the control of the WEF. As Swab says, "we have been able to penetrate the cabinets"...
I would advise others not to move here. You have to rent bad homes and make landlords wealthy.
if you support jacinda you can suck it up, you will own nothing with her there
Feel free to leave any time
Sounds just like Australia
@@patu5798 what an azzz!
My family and I moved to NZ found the cost of living high no money to be earnt. What did it for us was the cost of the flight to visit family,would take me 3 months to earn. We packed up and moved back to the UK.
NZ is the easy back door to Australia... Game plan from the beginning... NZ's standard of living has slipped to an all time low...
That's communism for you!
@@thegeniusofthecrowd354 Bootcinda
@@thegeniusofthecrowd354 What? Don't breed 🤡
@@turanamo You're the gender neutral nonce pal.
NZ'S treatment of ImmigrantsIs appalling!!
Low wages, Expensive rents, Poor quality of houses and the list goes on!
My brother and family after 2 years being in New Zealand finally got work. It was tough but they persevered.
I am an immigrant citizen, moved to NZ when I was in high school. I pursued my career in academia, did my graduate school and training in AU and US. Now, I am established and wishing to go back. But there is simply no jobs or innovations in NZ. NZ does not seem to have the ambition to do innovations in science.
you're the one who is supposed to innovate and build industry. thats what others who didnt go to school expect of you
Well, I moved back to India in March 2021 because I faced the issue of discrimination and mental torture. Even when the government is trying to support immigrants, as long as kiwis or Maoris stop saying "go back to your country/get out of my country" and the police would not step in to support you, people are going to move back. I am still scared of going back, I still have my work visa (for which I spent my fortune) sitting in dust because of this trauma.
Mate, I am half Kiwi and half Maori. I also live in Australia. I am ashamed at how those people in NZ have treated you.
@@twirl4968 most of them go straight to welfare, dont bring any money and smell horrible.
Stay over there thanks. There’s enough of them here already
What a load of tud. What job are you trying to do, we don't need taxi drivers we don't need fast food workers, Who did you try and get work from.
@@twirl4968 WTF, 1/2 kiwi and 1/2 Maroi .
How about focusing on training more NZ Doctors and Nurses and having an attractive working environment to keep them here or to get them back when they decide to come home from overseas.
We dont have many qualified nurses or doctors here. The education system is the worst here so the local product cant cope with the demand
@@ehsanulkarim1126 True but we have to do something about it still. Can't rely on foreigners too much.
Nobody's going to hang around paying 31% income tax. Screw that.
We already have. There is a severe lack of skilled doctor and nurses in NZ. The existing doctors and nurses are already over worked, the system is stressed.
The issue is not really about universities not training enough doctors and nurse, the problem is students simply do not want those professions.
@@misterhill5598 At least you have a good brain. Well said. People generally don't want to work in healthcare because it is a depressing place. I guarantee you that migrants coming in are also avoiding those jobs too. For example, I had a conversation with someone who knows Chinese culture well and she said it is Chinese culture to avoid working in healthcare. They respect people working in the field but strongly against being part of the contribution. There are two solutions to the problem:
1. Recruit foreign doctors and nurses.
2. Train more local doctors and nurses.
She is very smart and attractive indeed, she definitely has my vote,❤❤❤❤❤❤
To the last person in new zealand remember to turn the lights out when you leave, Ive lived here for 27years and have worked in the electrical trade for 12, enough to be considered skilled labour, i want to stay but have been forced out of the housing market, not to mention cost of living, low income, looming social/economic recession ahead. I dont blame anyone for wanting to hell out of dodge or face years of misery.
It's the sad truth. In the end you have to take care of yourself and your loved ones.
West Auckland looks like a mess (Where I'm from). Safety, cost of housing, food & society in general.
Everywhere else is going to be the same. The globalists are slowly destroying the entire west country by country with all the fake climate change, vaccines and antifarming agendas.
the solution is not bringing hordes of indians either
Does this mean we have 9 thousand fewer homeless people? No point having a bigger population without the housing and infrastructure, including law and order.
well said
@Chris Lyons
Why would you include "Law and order" in that comment? What are you suggesting?
@@southpacific222 Australia keeps sending talented organised crime criminals.
This is such an high quality interview.
You treat every one poorly. Remember the lockdowns.
It’s a better life in Aussie. From Nz, moved to Aussie six years ago, came back for Covid. Now back In Aussie. So glad to have left in Nz again.
👌
What the hell! the product commissions report cost the taxpayer 5 million dollars 06:38 for a report! that's the problem with new zealand all these bureaucrats charging top dollar for what? nothing but rubbish recommendations and a fat paycheck.
I'm new to NZ, came over on the 7th July as I got a decent job offer. I feel that immigration says they want to grow the economy and bring in skills but the professional bodies here make it really hard for professionals from abroad to work here. In the short time iv been here iv met nurses who are qualified surgeons back in Asia, Indian doctors who work as drivers here, experienced engineers working in banks.. My wife is a South african pharmacist with a 4 year pharmacy degree and 15 years of experience working in 3 tertiary hospitals. She cannot work here, she has to write 2 kaps exams which involves a lot of studying, do a 16 week course with university of Auckland, then do a 6 month internship before she can work...inz and the professional bodies need to understand that the skill you want to bring in, the real hard workers who will stay, come from the 3rd world.. But hey I guess they would want the skill to come in from Europe, America etc.. But those professionals seek where the salary is best, also a big reason why people in droves are moving to Australia vs nz. If inz want to get immigration right, start dialog with the professional bodies to be less prescriptive on those qualified, skilled and experienced workers coming from developing countries
Except for the Maoris and other tribes, everyone in NZ are migrants - a few generations apart. So you say that older migrants are making it difficult for new migrants.
Technically I'm a native by definition, so are the 7 last generations of my family before me..
Indian doctors do not need to drive taxis. They are lying to you. Engineers yes. Nurses also. not doctors
@@newbiekhyber they are also migrants mate , they were here may be 400 ~ 300 years before max the earlist settlers who were migrants were 1100 years ago compare that to australia or old countries like china india
let me guess... another indian.
Last person left turn the lights off please
Jack the name of our country is New Zealand NOT that other bullshit mane up name REALLY Jack,
open the flood gates thatl help nz low housing stock more and drive down wages. only in nz is a nz citizen second class😆
The problem is just how difficult the Govt makes it to actually try and immigrate. I have 2.5 decades of senior level Management experience and yet don't qualify for in demand jobs. Ok, so I'll start my own Business then. I have 100% of the 100K NZ funding required (which you get 0 points for the 120 required if you ONLY have a little over the 100K) but NZ age discriminates and I barely get any points for being over 40. I also get zero points because I haven't operated the Business I'd open in NZ (which MUST be innovative and be shown that nobody in NZ already offers that) for at least 5 years somewhere else.
It's like those Job ads you see for an "Entry Level this or that" but the Company requires you have a Master Degree and 10 years experience. It's a complete joke.
New Zealand doens't seem so attractive anymore. It is woke, snobby, has an awful government, miles away from anywhere, high taxes...there are better options
It's woke? that's a country for me.
Yup...moving to Cali NOW. 🤣
@@teevis3620 the worst state
Accurate, horrible horrible country is NZ anyone thinking of moving there needs to seriously re-evaluate their decisions. Or not LOL
Woke ? 😭😂
New Zealand as a country needs to slow immigration roads schools housing Hospitals etc overloaded from to much immigration to many low skilled immigrants working at supermarkets bus drivers 2 dollar shops bottle stores Uber drivers low skilled the other thing is why are 98 percent of the immigrants from China or indains for where's the Americans Germans Russians Greeks french Spanish Ukraine immigrants working studying running shops let's flood in 10000s more non English speaking immigrants that walk around a English speaking country not speaking English
So NZ needs to:
- Fund more training
- Make more funds available for the health service
- Fund more vital infrastructure improvements, such as for water, public transport etc.
- Reduce the amount of capital being parked in property while also increasing the quantity of affordable residential property
None of NZ’s political parties are offering anything here so don’t expect anything to change, other than who blames who.
i agree training must be provided but to train people who are educationally proficient does not make them emotionally able to deal with the pressures of caring for sick folks.Identifying through specific screening interviews the right type of people ,personality and epathy are vital yet cold, distant and uncaring individuals although qualified are not ideal in my view
Tax reform. Not cuts, but changes.
But won't the new unelected governing body of the nation's several waters fund the care and maintenance of infrastructure for our sacred resource??
I'm a White Kiwi living in Australia. Wages are far better over here and there's no where in NZ for us any more, go Aotearoa
New Zealand
Left NZ 40 years ago, living in WA, best move ever.
stuff aotearoa its New Zealand.
Mate you should probably go back to NZ coz we dont need anymore racists here. We have our hands full with local bogans here!
Left NZ a few years ago, I despise that craphole country I would never go back if i was paid. Arrest JACINTA THE TRAITOR!!!
I suppose one of the cons of living in N.Z. would be the cost of foreign travel, going on holidays etc... The country is very remote from the rest of the world. A lot of your holiday time would be spent travelling. It's a beautiful country and i know a few people who were there and they said they really enjoyed it. 🇳🇿👍
@@KiwiKool NZ No.1 in this world!
(And 20% of NZers moved over the ditch to Australia with being treated as the second class citizens in Australia lol)
She’s very good. Clear and concise. Answers the questions find. Future pm material
They always talk good in opposition.
@@hellbender10 your probably to young to remember labour six years ago haha. National sucked in opposition when Collins was in too. So your statement is stupid
give nurses n teacher the red carpet treatmnt slam the door on petrol station managers n uber drivers
Both governments are promoting failed immigration policies.
you forgot to mention: booze shop managers, corner shop/suburban workers, vape shop attendees, the list goes on and on
So will you be doing those jobs?
@@bobykurien7400 the point is we dont need another 10k uber drivers loitering around th local dominos pizza cause its 2 4 tuesday
In other words Indian's that get Reds and then fly back to a arranged marriage and bring there whole family over
Im Indian, why dont Indians just stay in India and make it great ??????????????
They want to earn in dollors and spent in dollors with zero saving and with high cost of living
every country has its benefits and not good things , nz is very comfortable to live , you dont have maids like in india but you can use equipment like washer/dryer dishwasher so on , for kids i think nz is fantastic so many things for them to do great public school very good medical for kids , good work life balance , can import cheap amazing 2nd hard car from japan 15 mins and your at work 5 mins swimming pool so on
@@eumakant why cant India be a civilised country? why do u have to go to a white man's country, make India great not NZ
exactly i'll never understand that
@@harveyking5038 India is a ancient civilization & society , made up of many different poeple . similar to China others Egypt syria etc India is the only contentious civilization till current day , ie when white man was running naked hunting for animals Indians were a develop society were farming had irrigation sanitation health mental health sexual etc Yoga Kamasutra Ayurveda . etc you will have to google .
White man when developed its society went in search for a better trading route for India ie how we got the discovery of the Americas and they though the people over there are Indians hence native americans were termed Indians .
White Man managed to sea fair to India and then colonised India This includes not just white man but many others turks afgans british french spanish porguges etc
Now if white man can rule and colonise and en slave Indians and place Indias in Malaysia Fiji South africa and other afircan countries ,
hell ya Indians can go and live in white man's country and prosper
between UKs Pm is now a Hindu Indian Portuguese had and Indian PM before , USA vice president is Indian . etc .
They make it very hard to even come into the country!! My daughter and grandson live there and we can’t get into the country,haven’t seen them in two and a half years !!!!!
Why not? I thought the borders were fully open now
I think it's a money and visa problems.
Erica is bang on, smart and intelligent
we have the same problem here in Australia. Its been detrimental the the labour market....there no carpenters, tradies to keep up with the construction industry demands and since there is slow progress in building new homes, prices of homes just keep going up. In agriculture, certain fruits and vegetables have been left out to rot in the fields because there is not enough fruit pickers to get them into super markets. Add to the flooding problems, the cost of fruit and veges has sky rocketed in Australia...thats just on top of nursing, teaching shortages. The Australian govt has increased its migrant intake by 30k but that will take time to alleviate the labor shortage. But luckily for Australia there is higher wages
She is so right
We need Erica to be the new Immigration Minister..
My wife is a medical doctor. She is working in pharma. Her position was created to get her here. We can go anywhere if we want. Feel a bit un appreciated at the moment but we will see what the future brings. Do we really want to pay huge amounts of tax to a country that treats you a bit like you dont matter? We will see.
come to England , far better for immigrants
@@KiwiKool Hey Phillip. thanks for the reply. We did eventually got the residence.
Immigrants have very hard life in New Zealand. Most jobs are occupied by locals where jobs are limited. life expenditure is high, and no facilities are there for migrants. Wish they could have allowed migrant to purchase property under certain criteria.
My Filipina mother who lived in nz for decades was not able to petition me because I was overage and family based petition closed in 2012. I am now in the states.
THE ENTIRE SYSTEM NEEDS AN OVERHAUL!!!
@Mac Cleba it is said that We created our own reality, i think we were misguided by those in positions of power, growers and farmers taking advantage of the globalist market, with the few profiting from it at the cost of exhausting our lands and resources. Its time we look at supporting locally and restructure our economy to benefit us.
Talk about being delusional. We have plenty of skilled workers in new Zealand companies just dont want to pay for them . They will pay migrants workers less for the same job . Although generally not to the same quality
No wonder people are still leaving NZ in droves.
Not looking after nurses who are here. Working the rn in rest homes into the ground
You were right . Nurses and caregiver at the rest homes have working very long hours and exhausted.
How about having more kids, double down on National Soveriegnty and develop your own culture and economy.
I am Nurse, I love to move NZ but heard expensive housing which almost takes away whole salary after all the monthly expenses
i will say no auckland wellingon to some extend but south island not as long as your street smart and understands basics you will be fine , christchurch rolleston lots of small towns are great for nurses west cost is fantastic its so many things to do like nature realted
Apart from easing immigration, we need to improve skills for kiwis, introduce apprenticeship, with decent wages. Get the young people back to work. And train older people in new skills.
finaly! Why are'nt they teaching their people, what's that weird situation? Are they seriously outsourcing education to poorer countries, poorer countries citizen's taxes? This has an end. They need to invest in their own children.
they are trying to dumb the majority down, while the rich prosper. Its been common practice for years
Sure, NZ does not need any overseas nurses and doctors. 🤣🤣🤣SO the INZ should immediately stop allowing foreign nurses and doctors coming to nz! I strongly agree with u. the gov should protect NZ local nurses and local doctors and train and pay them well.
First time I felt like voting for National.
Try restoring the righrs of the un mRNA injected.
I'm an engineer from the USA. I want to move to NZ but just cannot justify getting paid about 1/3rd my current salary. It's sad because NZ values resonate with me a lot.
Careful what you wish for!...As a Kiwi I moved out FAST,went to Australia,and never looked back...NZ will drag you down and spit you out...STAY CLEAR OF NZ...If you have Maori blood then your set up for life,Benefits are there for the taking!
Are u a man
New Zealand has turned into a leftist/Marxist shit hole- from a kiwi
@@tonyrobb8815 so for a specialized person and with intention to start and create jobs like me, don't you recommend new zealand ??
@@tonyrobb8815 yes, because pakeha can't get on the benefit...........only maori people can.....🙄🤔
Low paying jobs, expensive poor quality housing, expensive food..so why bother staying in NZ? Moved to Perth recently and thank my stars.
I am actually glad that pandemic happened. It revealed the reality of NZ that how much we are addicted to cheap foreign temporary workforce. Having them only benefits the employers.
This is why employers don't hire kiwis, you people have too little brain to understand complex things which need special skills and brain. Skilled migrants are tired of paying high taxes to fund work and income claims..
Australia is finished, politicians have mismanaged the country, 50 000 are leaving each year.
@@vincesteer7960 it is better than NZ
@vince steer
They're not heading for New Zealand though are they! 🤣
WE are not addicted to them.. NZ was raped and pillaged years ago
Glory to God . God Bless You All. Psalms 91 Amen 14050. 26 Hallelujah 86 .
They don't like the crazy lady!
+100000000000000000 to your comment !!!
National will get nurses from the Phillipines or India for cheap and they leave as soon as they become a NZ citizen for Australia often with a student loan
It’s harder to live in NZ than it is to live in some developing countries so hard unless you own homes & collect rent for everyone else on just ave wages is stuffed
Erica is spot on 👍
What we need to do is get rid of all you clowns, politicians ect... you are all talk and have no fricken idea what to do and your far out of touch with hard working kiwis.
I suspect what we might see is Kiwis shifting to Australia but working for biz in NZ. That is to say, Covid-19 has prepared people to work from home; now they can work from Australian home. That's not just workers leaving, but jobs leaving (for Australia). So low value, low skill production in NZ, high value jobs to Australia.
Housing in Australia is a major problem,wage increase has been stagnant for 30years,she does not understand what is going on overseas
I am 67. I Lived 30 years in Australia and came back here in 2006 and the worst mistake of my life. I love the country - bush, beaches etc and the people are fine, but our laws are antiquated and our so called leadership is crap. Too old to move again alas, but apparently Romania is the place to go.
the talent exists here already ,skilled workers and labourers.We must not forget our strengths the ability to feed our population is paramount,and the pandemic is a good reason why, we must look towards ourselves there is nothing the outside world has that we need to survive,
People are literally dying due to our under-resourced healthcare sector as the video explained. We DO need the "outside" world. We have proved sh8t at planning for the future.
@@matmaism fair comment, So are you Saying our health systems in comparison to other developed Nations has been less effective in delivery, application,and results.
@@matmaism it is not a Healthcare system it is a sick system
Maaaan shes speaking facts !!!!
So why has NZ got a major housing crisis?
Globalists.
Nz does not hv a housing crisis. It had an immigration crisis.. too many low quality people hv been allowed in
What about the housing crisis there's not enough houses for kiwis never mind imagines
There are enough houses actually they’re just not rented out, look up the ghost houses of Auckland problem
Wake up
Wake up Jeff!
The ghost houses in auks wouldn't even house the homeless people where I live in the north Auckland is only one city in nz you just have to drive around and see people living in there cars and vans . I don't think they do this by choice . When I was a teenager in the 70s there was no problem renting a house and the rent was probably only half of a minimum wage
If you are from the U.S. and older, say near retirement, NZ is not interested in you even if you are upper middle class in the U.S. and have a great retirement income. Unless you are wealthy and able to invest huge amounts of money, there is no way to get there! I think that is short sighted!
@@KiwiKool not even a retirement village with money to spend in your economy?
Post pandemic world realizes that family is so important, they want to be with their loved ones and have great memories. The rentals in NZ are on the higher side like $2500 per month even in Tier 2 cities as it is a weekly payment, and then food another $500, broadband $125, electricity $200, gas for heating and cooking $200, water bill $200, vehicle insurance $200, fuel $500, and the median wage is $25/hour and most companies are small in size and cannot afford to pay more than 20-30hrs/week. So rest of the math is pretty easy for any prospective migrant to decide. One more important piece of information, if there is an advert for a single rental apartment vacancy in NZ even in a tier 2 city there would be 400-500 applications for that one unit, housing is very tightly managed, it is almost a mafia controlled business there making sure only the landlords and real estate companies become millionaires hahahahaha. However if you are a plumber, farmer, kiwi fruit plucker/packer, strawberry picker, cow dung cleaner, cow milk sucking device expert, lawn mower, welder, fitter, brick layering laborer or an expert latrine cleaner, you would get a Permanent Residence quite easily due to the locals never liking these tough physical jobs. But keep in mind the 7000$-10000$ per month minimum expenses and your PR card alone would not take care of your family right ? Hence please plan carefully as an annual income of more than 55000$ would attract a 30% tax, which by the way will make your partners working mandatory for most families. However if you are investing in health and retirement and have about $500000 at your disposal it is a great place to get lots and lots of oxygen, greenery and sound sleep as it is a country with just miles and miles of countryside everywhere outside Auckland...
really $500 on food what a fat arse
There are so many skilled workers in developing countries who would love to be there but the system is so slow .
@@KiwiKool Then you kiwis stop complaining about why Australia does not give you pathways to Australia residency/citizenship. Australia is better than your "paradise NZ" and 20% of NZers moved to there to be there second class citizens.
@@KiwiKool Then firstly you kiwis should stop complaining about why Australia treats u as a second class migrants there lol
I’m a Brit about to move to NZ. Good discussion, but these migrant / highly skilled worker problems are global, not just in New Zealand. The UK has record levels of employment, but huge skills gaps and it’s a heated market for experienced candidates. Post Brexit, we have lost access to EU migrants and now looking further afield to attract talent (yes that includes NZ - so it’s a competition)
The real problem here isn’t corporate / white collar - it’s blue collar / logistics / manual Labour / healthcare . The simple way to attract people to those roles is to pay better than the minimum wage or even offer starting bonus linked to retention / performance. This will increase costs to the consumer, so it’s it’s a choice between higher prices / lower quality / unavailability.
The government can help with visa processing times, but more important is access to affordable housing. If New Zealand government & business can’t or won’t do these things, other countries will and todays problem becomes a generational one.
@Dixie Flatline
Don't worry abouti it, the Nz government has got it covered...They're building 100,000 house in their kiwi build plan👍
@@southpacific222 as long as speculators don’t just buy up the new housing stock, then flip them into the rental market - all good 😁
Don’t do it …. Unless your wealthy
@@richardireland6072 sage & positive advise! Wealth is relative and we all have different / subjective view on what’s needed to be successful at anything. It would be interesting to hear your objective views
@@dixieflatline1189 Just a word of advise from someone who earnt a good wage there and still struggled due to the cost of things is all I’m saying… if you have no problem spending more on things than they are worth then it’s a good move for you. Complete freedom is yours on that is yours just trying to be helpful to you and give you a heads up on things before you go there. Ultimately you are the master of your universe :)
This government driving long time residents and kiwis out of the country.
Excellent Presentation!
We want more people. But quality ones. Well trained and qualified with no ideologies attached
I’m one of the statistics that have departed beautiful NZ .. the cost of living overides everything..and this isn’t going to change anytime soon ..
I'm a senior clinical nurse specalist/authorized vaccinator and a PRIME responder en route to become a practitioner to help address the GP shortage ...i ..and i can't belive I'm saying this ...i agree with national .my 102k a year ( that includes 24 hours on call ) would be on average 165k over the ditch with less hours
Fiat money money money.
Pointless comparing NZ wages with AU wages . Australia has huge mineral wealth that underpins much higher wages and living standard .
102k is a good wage......
National wants more low paid workers through increased immigration, create more low paid service and consumer based businesses, cut taxes and reduce government spending. It raises the question, if National is the government in 2023 and introduces tax cuts and reduce government spending, where are they going to find the money to pay for new nurses, doctors, specialised health professionals, age care workers, skilled workers, etc they say the New Zealand needs, let has no plans to the national housing stock, upgrade aging infrastructure, solve the cost of living crisis, inflation, out of control rents, etc.
Don't talk crap m8 thats more than enough to feed yours !! if you had your head screwed on it's not rocket science you shouldn't be pay more than 102$ annual
Nothing new there, people have come to NZ, get the passport then go to Australia for years!
Well said!
I think the universities in newzealand have to reduce fees for international students.
This way you can increase your migrant .
You brought them now live with them or without them and in time near won't be a pure kiwi living in new Zealand
New Zealand has a land area of 286,000 square kilometres. The Philippines has a land area of 300,000 square kilometres. New Zealand has a population of 5 million. The Philippines has a population of 109.6 million. The Philippines does not have problems filling job vacancies. The Philippines does not face great upward pressure on wages. Like New Zealand the Philippines has an inflation problem. Interesting that Erica thinks that New Zealand needs amazingly talented truck drivers.
Then tell the phillippines to fkn stay in your own country n dont come to nz
Don't bring their idea s here. Over breeding uncontrolled population growth that's why alot of countries are not natural
Govt needs to restrict new immigrants they will out buy nzers in land and housing which is a threat.
Their behavior is different and less respectful to the environment
As Long as NZ government don't focus on housing costs ....things get really worse, people are making decisions very easily now a days.
I'm a psychologist wanting to emigrate from the UK through a PhD. Let's see if it works out! Good luck NZ! Hope you get all the workers you need..
Hopefully you’re a progressive, we have too many right wing fucks from the UK coming over and teaming up with our local racists.
Wow !! Thank god. Someone who knows their stuf !!!! Amazing for NZ. A National of Cant dos.
LOL literally the first words out of her mouth: "no I'm not surprised at all...they're very shocking" 🤣
NZ so fortunate to have OZ alongside...
Be grateful they all come to Australia but the biggest thing at the moment both countries have to show the way with having small populations other wise if you offered 100,000 Indians and 100,000 Africans thats how many would show up expecting a home right next to a school and home new home to boot.
no immigrant ever expects that, i don't know what tabloid you read.. I live in India and I qualified for an NSW sponsored PR once which I turned down because I got a better offer in a nearby SE Asian company. Erica's pretty spot on the competition for talent (i have no idea about healthcare but pretty sure she's right).
I love New Zealand from Australia, however there is love/trust relationship that is lost between the government and the ordinary people! It seems like migrants/locals can study in New Zealand easily by getting a Studylink loan and then once they get their first job and a bit of experience. Then they look to move to Australia, which is very sad for the country...
BS. Migrants can't get StudyLink loans. Only locals can.
@@nicconz1 I think the ones with PR can!
@@koochooloo007 Right, so you're telling me that SOME people can migrate to a country and use their skills to get permanent residence i.e. pull oneself up from the bootstraps and better themselves. Then the big complicated problem is that after 3 years of permanent residence they could use StudyLink to get a loan which they ultimately have to pay back to do FURTHER study and migrate somewhere else. What is the problem with that? Good on them.
People have the right to do what is better for them just like "Kiwis". Where do you get off?
Not everyone migrates again when they come to NZ and some do. Who cares? I think you might be a tiny bit jealous.
@@nicconz1 I never said the people who migrate from NZ to Australia are bad or good, each move has it's own pros and cons. I was simply saying New Zealand Government needs to create special programmes through negotiation with various companies that operate across different industries to offer special job packages that are attractive for the skilled migrants who left NZ, so the person who left the country think to himslef/herself it might be a good option to move back in terms of what is on the job offer ;-)
@@koochooloo007 There is nothing to suggest migrants moving to Australia is a problem at all. Not all migrants do. Some do. Big deal! I don't understand why people complain about it. If Kiwis can migrate easily to Australia then migrants have the same rights to do what is best for them.
I think it’s a joke that New Zealand is so strict about migration. Even doctors get in very difficulty.
I drive truck in Wellington and I got offer from Australia double of what I get here ofcourse am going to take it
They could just issue residency with the obligation to work for at least 2 years or ot will be retracted. Basically just turn it around..
Ha - who want's to live in a country where a house is not affordable and an authoritarian government that is in the pocket of WEF (young global leaders) with a zero coof policy that had to be tamed by judges. Even as a husband of a Kiwi it is extremely cumbersome to get a permanent residency for someone from Europe.
Same problem in Australia as well. My partner is a teacher of 15 years. Yet their qualifications aren’t recognised in Australia.
Teaching in (government schools) in Australia, remains a unionised, protectionist racket run by the AEU. It has the ludicrous practice of employing "contracted" staff who are rarely given full time contracts. They are expected to accept postings (rarely more than a year at best) in regional and remote schools that are hard to staff. Additionally, nobody gets a "full time" contract. Any dissent, is treated as treasonous, and you will feel the result of unemployment if found out and identified.