SM58 vs Shure Beta 58a | Which Should You Buy?

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    Finally featuring a showdown between the two Shure mics at the top of the handheld lineup.
    The Shure Beta58a vs The Shure SM58
    Is it worth the price difference?
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    00:00 Intro
    00:15 A Brief History
    01:13 Build Quality
    02:11 Specs
    02:53 Off Axis Rejection for Beta 58a and SM58
    03:38 Plosives Test
    03:51 Handling Noise Test
    04:23 Proximity Effect Test
    04:53 Direct Comparison of Beta 58a and SM58
    06:14 Final Thoughts
    07:20 Which Should You Buy?
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  • @djxhakaza1827
    @djxhakaza1827 2 роки тому +41

    I have been using SM58 for the past 85 years and still going strong, probably i will still use it in the next 85 to 90 years to come

    • @skettdog
      @skettdog Рік тому +12

      this guy is like 115 yrs old

    • @JonAnderhub
      @JonAnderhub Рік тому

      If it ain't broke don't fix it!

    • @gaffle7646
      @gaffle7646 Рік тому +1

      He’s talking dog years…

    • @66fitton
      @66fitton Рік тому

      🤣

    • @Fiveash-Art
      @Fiveash-Art 2 місяці тому +4

      When 900 years old you reach, ... Look as good, you will not.

  • @limitededition1053
    @limitededition1053 Рік тому +9

    SM58, had one for 22 years gigging and its never broke and its been dropped many times and sounds great live.

  • @SUSANBAR31
    @SUSANBAR31 3 роки тому +15

    Thank you for this! I just bought the BETA A using your Amazon link... on sale for $128.00 so I bought an additional 25 ft cable! Rock on!

  • @christianboddum8783
    @christianboddum8783 Рік тому +10

    i used a BETA for years. It didn't fit my voice that well, but it was a workhorse. Today I'm into the 87A, and that's a better match for me, but nowadays I do mostly harmonies, so that's a different situation also. For big choirs having the BETAs for soloists and 58's for the background singers makes FOH work easy!!

  • @chriskettlewell801
    @chriskettlewell801 Рік тому +17

    The up close sound of the Beta 58A was definitely a lot better to my ears, and the significant reduction in what it picks up from the side and back is really noticeable to. Could make a big difference with feedback.

    • @discodd94
      @discodd94 3 місяці тому +2

      you need an ear test ASAP

  • @billvillamusic3625
    @billvillamusic3625 Рік тому

    Great review man! I’ve been using a beta 58 for years, very happy with it.

  • @DimebagDarrenLowe
    @DimebagDarrenLowe Рік тому +1

    i have both, thanks for the run down of these two great mics

  • @GenuineHeather
    @GenuineHeather Рік тому +7

    I agree with your conclusions. Like most people, my experience with the SM58 goes back years. It's a solid, dependable workhorse. But the Beta 58 is a cut above. It's been my go-to live vocal mic for about seven years and it's never let me down. For me, it just sounds better.

  • @ROKZLEON
    @ROKZLEON Рік тому

    I've been looking for this video! Thanks for the comparison! 👍🏻

  • @boomerbutler7569
    @boomerbutler7569 Рік тому +11

    I just bought three Beta 58a's for our worship team and I'm really thankful for this comparison video becuase we have feedback issues with our SM58's and we don't have a need for that much lows. I really like how you showed the proximity of the mircophones and this will be very helpful to our vocalists!

    • @all4christ1
      @all4christ1 Рік тому +1

      How have you found it? I just bought to 58a's for our church it arrives next week.

    • @boomerbutler7569
      @boomerbutler7569 Рік тому +2

      @@all4christ1 The most noticeable difference is the clarity in the mid range with the Beta 58's. They sound crystal clear when compared to the SM 58's. It was a noticeable difference with our church members and I'm glad we made the purchase.

    • @daviddesmond2143
      @daviddesmond2143 Рік тому

      Why would the Beta get less feedback?

    • @mtsugarcan
      @mtsugarcan Рік тому

      @@daviddesmond2143 because of the polar pattern. Beta 58a is super cardioid, which means more directional, so it is relatively less affected by the stage monitor speakers. But there is no huge difference though. Proper microphone Handling is more important.

    • @66fitton
      @66fitton Рік тому +1

      @@mtsugarcan Actually you have that wrong. Look at the polar pattern of a Beta58 and you'll see it picks up more directly behind it than a regular 58. There are more feedback issues with the Beta than the regular 58. Answer is to put the monitors in the dead spot if you're using Betas, not directly behind the mic. It's the 35 degrees that was mentioned in the video. Bottom line is if they had problems with feedback already, going to Betas is not going to help.

  • @TrueShayari
    @TrueShayari 11 місяців тому

    Hi, I want to record my written poetry professionally. Suggest me a good audio interface and microphone. But my room is not sound proof. The sound from outside comes inside our room. If I use Audio Technica 2035 mic and Shuru SM 58, then what will be the difference between the two? And which audio interface would be better for ShureSM 58. In which there is no noise and the quality is also good at the time of recording.

    • @djeondj
      @djeondj Місяць тому

      The At-2035 is a condenser mic. Meaning it’s going to pick up everything. A dynamic mic, will be the Shute sm58. It won’t pick up background noises, rustling papers, etc.

  • @davewestner
    @davewestner Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the history lesson on 58a. Didn't realize that the beta58 came out in 89. I thought it came out in the mid-90s, but didn't realize that it was the 58a that was new at the time.
    I don't think I've ever seen an original beta58

  • @johnroseman9087
    @johnroseman9087 2 роки тому

    That's why I'm here. Just bought a Beta 58A. Wanted to get a review on it. The salesman recommended it over the SM58, and I liked the sound in the store. Nice review .thanks!✌👍

  • @counterfeitselfband
    @counterfeitselfband Рік тому +2

    I've always apreciated them more on stage or live situations. Sometimes I prefer a Beta57 in the studio when I want more presence. Likewise, sometimes when I want it dumbed-down a bit I like the originals. Tough to say what people should do but to me, if you have better S/N or feedback resistance, it's a no-brainer.

  • @chrismichael8501
    @chrismichael8501 2 роки тому

    Excellent review and comparison, thanks!

  • @DanielNylandKollstrm
    @DanielNylandKollstrm 2 місяці тому

    Our guitar player just got me the beta with our band funds! I’ve been using the sm58 for 5 years now and after our other singer joined the band, I’ve started to notice that it doesn’t pick up my whole range. After watching this video, I can’t wait to try the beta out later tonight at band practice! Thanks man. :)

  • @BryanLuckey1
    @BryanLuckey1 Рік тому

    Nice video, very informative with no fluff.

  • @stephensams709
    @stephensams709 Рік тому +1

    The weak spot on the Beta 58a wireless mic is the on/off switch. I haven't used the wired version. Being an electronic tech, I have replaced tons of these switches. It's not a hard job, but they are so tiny. I do love the sound of the mic. I've used both of these mics and I like them both.

  • @juanchodepelos1
    @juanchodepelos1 2 роки тому

    thanks a lot man, I was looking for this information everywhere! I will purchase my Beta 58!

  • @muziky2k
    @muziky2k 2 роки тому +1

    You're right. I couldn't hear the difference on my Macbook Pro. However, I think there were enhancements to the Beta58A that would definitely benefit some over the SM58.

  • @jayneubauer3401
    @jayneubauer3401 Рік тому

    as a backup singer in bands that started on drums, went to rhythm guitar and most recently (late 80's) keyboards, I have been using a 58 since the late 70's until it finally quit (rain storm at a festival) in the late 00's. Same one!! I switched to the Beta 58 and noticed immediately that the off-axis rejection was MUCH better. Then, switching to IEM it didn't seem to matter, but I already have my Beta, so I will use that for the rest of my life, then give it to my daughter.

  • @thefrankfactorshow
    @thefrankfactorshow 2 роки тому

    Excellent review and test. Thank you.

  • @JozeatTxb
    @JozeatTxb 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, thanks. I had a Shure beta 58a, didnt know much about mics, and lent I it to someone, it was neveer returned!

  • @JBearwa
    @JBearwa Рік тому +3

    Excellent review! Logical and useful points.
    In short I completely agree with this guy!
    I’ve used both of these mics for years in my professional karaoke shows. In my experience, definitely for singers the beta - specially with male voice - is so much better!
    And I totally agree SM 58 is an incredible mic … If you need to get something for talking buy it with the on off button. For band members it’s also a wonderful option to have the owner off button on the microphone. However for doing karaoke you may not want to have the on off button unless you tape it on people continually switch it and it takes way too much to explain how to do that during a show.For the SM 58 is an incredible value and microphone with great feedback control. But the beta has better feedback control and for singers is much better. Both Rugged both are fantastic

  • @SavoxYT
    @SavoxYT 2 роки тому +27

    Things that would survive a nuclear apocalypse:
    1. Cockroaches
    2. Keith Richards
    3. SM57s and SM58s

    • @GoodlyRogue
      @GoodlyRogue 2 роки тому

      Damn, didn't expect you here? I really like your videos. As for you, what's your mic?

  • @thebrunoserge
    @thebrunoserge 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for this! I used to own a Beta 58A and it was great. This time it was a no brainer - I went with an Audix OM5

  • @BaldPerspective
    @BaldPerspective Рік тому +2

    I preferred the sound of the SM & I also like how it cuts off at a lower frequency than the Beta, giving me the choice to cut those other frequencies out with an EQ. But, that's for recording. If I were the lead singer in a band, I'd prefer the Beta. Each would have strengths over the other depending on the context of how they're being used.

  • @mudsh4rk
    @mudsh4rk 2 роки тому +2

    It's weird, the 58 has stayed about the same in unadjusted price since the 90s (I got my first '57 in may e '95 for just under $100; the only '58 I've ever bought was $10 but that doesn't count), which means that after inflation a 58 in the late 90s cost at least as much as a beta 58 today. I wonder if there has been any cost cutting in the manufacture of the newer ones.

  • @FKeyPianoBar
    @FKeyPianoBar Рік тому

    Cool review! Thanks for the helpful info

  • @Luckyboy-bj5pq
    @Luckyboy-bj5pq Рік тому

    Great comparison thanks so much, I have both. Can really hear the lower hz roll off.

  • @blueheron5232
    @blueheron5232 2 роки тому +17

    Excellent job, man. Frankly, I was surprised that the two were so very similar in terms of performance characteristics. My takeaway is the Beta 58a is something of a luxury that's more easily justified for a Lead Singer or Front Man, or possibly for use in a solo act... As an aside, it's the only live stage mic Susan Tedeschi ever uses.

    • @J.C...
      @J.C... 9 місяців тому

      Oh yea? I'll have to look next time I'm jamming to them. 👌 Lifelong Allman Brothers fan here. Literally from day 0. Have you heard Duane Betts new solo stuff? He has one song with Derek called Stare At the Sun that's pretty dang good! Johnny Stachela and Berry are with him, too. TBH, I think Dickey might be playing on it, also. That's what the paragraph read like in the article I was reading.

  • @margagomezcomedy
    @margagomezcomedy 2 роки тому +1

    Just rewatched this. So well done. Why don't more people use this mic as "broadcast "mics? it sounds as good as "broadcast looking " miles that cost twice as much? Is it about the visuals? Thanks!

  • @djnewyork4734
    @djnewyork4734 2 роки тому

    Great Vid detailed explained. Thanks DCS

  • @pbody0808
    @pbody0808 2 роки тому

    Dude! Excellent video! Very informative!

  • @markfisher1392
    @markfisher1392 Рік тому +1

    I used wireless SM58's (because they were the "standard") but switched the capsules to Beta58a's a couple years into using Bose L1's for our duo. It made a big difference in our gain-before-feedback as we use the L1's behind us as Bose originally designed. (Yeah, I bought the hype, but it really has been successful for us.) I have a wide vocal range and my wife is a low alto, so the bottom roll-off makes it easier to manage the proximity effect and keep low notes clear.

    • @nicolasrr3477
      @nicolasrr3477 10 місяців тому

      Cual me recomiendas amigo, canto en un grupo donde hago la voz grabe, me puedes ayudar plis

  • @civilfieldengineer
    @civilfieldengineer Рік тому

    Sir, I want to do voice over. I want to buy Sure SM 58 mic. But a shopkeeper told me that you cannot do recording with dynamic mic. This is not for recording. Condenser mics are made for recording. Sir, what should i do ? Please tell me tha Truth

  • @juderandall703
    @juderandall703 10 місяців тому

    Hi, have used both. I prefer the SM58A, I find the SM58 quieter, definitely more clarity with the 58A & less feedback problems. Thanks for the review, it's very helpful 😊

  • @johnalles6760
    @johnalles6760 Рік тому +1

    I have one of each. The SM 58 I use for practice by myself and it is fine however when I play out I like the Beta 58. It just sounds a little better to me and goes over other voices better if you are the lead singer.

  • @bosselof1341
    @bosselof1341 Рік тому +10

    I often use Beta 58 for girls and SM58 for boys when mixing vocals live. But both works very well at stage. Once I was mixing the Swedish famous singer Charlotte Perelli and she didnt want to do a soundcheck just step up on stage and sing and that time the Beta 58 solved the challenge just a few adjustments from my own Voice and it was excellent sound.
    So Shure SLS with Beta 58 was My choice. Charlotte did Her gig and she and the crowd was happy.

    • @jrv65
      @jrv65 Рік тому

      Aí vc acordou 😅, e ficou doido 😂

    • @brucewales5965
      @brucewales5965 7 місяців тому

      I thought that would make sense.

  • @ZackPomerleau
    @ZackPomerleau Рік тому

    Big thing I notice is that the rear hotspot super cardioids are supposed to have don’t really seem that different but the cardioids definitely have a lot of sound from the sides.

  • @scottbrown4205
    @scottbrown4205 Рік тому +24

    Depends on the application and where the speakers and sound sources are. The side rejection of the beta works better if your mains are near the stage. The 58 works better if you have foldbacks in front. I use the beta for my drummers that sing. Sound’s much better than a headset. There is less snare bleed due to the pattern. Point being it’s all about polar pattern.

    • @JonAnderhub
      @JonAnderhub Рік тому

      Using the Beta 58 for a drummer and the rejection of the snare is a great point!

    • @glennh7297
      @glennh7297 Рік тому

      Great point on the bleed. I have used a Beta for 30 years, but I still carry a 58 in my trap case for a backup/extra mic. Near bombproof units.

    • @66fitton
      @66fitton Рік тому

      100%! Only thing I would add is that putting foldbacks off at 35 degrees instead of directly behind the mic when using Betas is how to deal with the foldback issue. All due to the POLAR PATTERN of the Beta. Stick it in that dead spot lol!

  • @LorneVignettes
    @LorneVignettes Рік тому +2

    They both sound great. I would pick the SM58 for streaming or podcasting. Live sound the Beta 58 would be first choice in my opinion. This was a good test.

  • @aranajagger5946
    @aranajagger5946 Рік тому +68

    As a sound tech myself, i prefer the sm58 over the beta. The Boost in the highs of the beta tend to feedback with the monitors. It's a great mic but the sm58 is more reliable

    • @cblade007
      @cblade007 Рік тому +3

      I couldn't agree more. You have to know the problem frequencies of all mics to make it easier to use. I carry 10 58's because it makes soundcheck faster to set up because I am familiar with those frequencies in the monitors.

    • @videoclip1324
      @videoclip1324 Рік тому +2

      Hello, I wanted to ask a question that I have wanted to ask for a long time:
      I have the sm58 microphone that I bought about a year ago.
      The whole time I use it, I have 3 problems.
      1. The volume is very low even when I'm close to the microphone.
      2. When I speak, a weak "white noise" starts playing in the background, which is only disturbing when speaking.
      3. Even if I connect it to phantom 48v still remains the same.
      Do you know what to do in such a situation?
      I would be happy to answer if you can.🙏
      Thank you in advance.

    • @cblade007
      @cblade007 Рік тому +3

      @@videoclip1324 Is this the only mic that you use on your system? If so, the problem could be from your console or amplifier.

    • @ratedepth
      @ratedepth Рік тому +1

      @@videoclip1324 Check your gain staging from the mic all the way through wherever your output is. The white noise is likely distortion happening somewhere along the way.
      Dynamic mics do not require phantom power. You can leave that off for the SM58 (or any dynamic mic).

    • @videoclip1324
      @videoclip1324 Рік тому +2

      @@ratedepth Thanks.
      So you mean it could be because the sound card is of poor quality? (because really the sound card is not that professional)
      I will only add (if necessary) that my microphone is not original (in my opinion according to the price I bought it for).

  • @thekaniack
    @thekaniack 2 роки тому

    This was great. I am sold on the Beta 58A!

  • @Billy-yu8sk
    @Billy-yu8sk 9 місяців тому

    When I had a sound & lighting company I bought all Beta-58s for vocals, combined w/ a driverack 360 & I never had one bit of feedback. Pinked the room whenever possible but not always.

  • @odiecoyote106
    @odiecoyote106 Рік тому +1

    If I could I would only buy B58's. After switch our two main worship mics in our church especially quieter female vocals are a major improvement with the B-58. It requires less compression to balance out the sound. Amazing mic. The SM58 I would still use for certain situations like a guitar cabinet isolation box or a lecture mic because it doesn't reject so well off axis. Great video and loved the presentation of comparing these two mics.

  • @ternitamas
    @ternitamas 2 роки тому +1

    sm58 does sound warmer I guess it's because the beta has that bass roll off. Both sound great I think it's a question of what your preference is in terms of sound color.

  • @notallprincessesacoustic7641

    I play guitar and sing in an acoustic duo. I use the sm58 and the singer has the beta in wireless version. I totally get the lower frequency difference for which it is great but it does seem to have a much hotter signal that can be problematic for feedback when we’re wedged into a corner in a small venue and the singer is holding the mic as opposed to using the mic stand. Great comparison though. 😀

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm Рік тому +1

    I think the wider pickup pattern if the sm58 sounds more natural and better. Captures a bigger picture of the voice

  • @paulreddy5452
    @paulreddy5452 Рік тому +2

    I can hear the difference, I like the SM 58 better. Been using that Mic for 40 years anyway

  • @amberwoodstudio
    @amberwoodstudio Рік тому +1

    Been gigging for years the sm58 is awesome and tuff as nails

  • @charlessmyth
    @charlessmyth Рік тому +2

    I bought the beta 58A for its tighter polar pattern and increased sensitivity compared to the SM-58. I use it to record audiobooks, and for the time that they take to record and process, and for what I don't have to do and spend to treat the room, for to suit a cardioid condenser, the cost difference isn't an issue :-) I added the proper Shure foam windscreen. It doesn't seem to have any benefit for the sound, but it adds a finish to the look of the microphone.

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen 6 місяців тому +1

      I also use an SM58 in my voiceover studio. I had a large diaphragm condenser, but with the 20Hz to 20kHz response and super sensitivity, there was always a need excessively treat the room and to clean up the audio with EQ, etc. So I put the condenser away and now I use the SM58 with a metal mesh pop filter. Sounds perfect! The design of the SM58 already does all the EQ necessary for human voice that you’d have to do in your software using a condenser with a flat response. Why reinvent the wheel for spoken word?

  • @tommydplayskeys
    @tommydplayskeys Рік тому

    My wife and I both sing. She has a really bright voice and mine can struggle to cut through. To begin with she had the Beta and I had the SM58. It got a whole lot better when we swapped! Much less EQ needed. So I'd say it depends on the voice. The polar pattern isn't something I think too much about - we stopped getting feedback when we switched to IEMs. Though minimising drum spill into our mics is still a factor.

  • @philgreco7037
    @philgreco7037 Рік тому

    I use the SM58 on the lower end of my Leslie. So perfect for that, and still only $99 like it was when I bought my first one in 1968.

  • @williammckinney3362
    @williammckinney3362 Рік тому

    Outstanding demo...Thank You.

  • @socratestolentino9557
    @socratestolentino9557 2 роки тому

    Yes.. Jus bought lately beta 58a.. Its a big leap of upgrade from sm58fora period of15 years

  • @Theweeze100
    @Theweeze100 Рік тому

    The feedback issue alone is enough to cause me to shell out the extra cash. The little extra “ump” when I’m right on the mic, is a bonus!
    We’ll done comparison!!!

  • @cmcg5788
    @cmcg5788 3 роки тому +17

    Thanks for the video. I'm a vocalist. The SM58 is smoother/warmer with my voice (tenor). When you do the proximity test in this video, the SM58 sounds more natural, without too much "wool" in the low-end. The Beta's sound reproduction seems artificially boosted in the highs in all scenarios (maybe they killed the warmth with the low-end roll-off). Anyway, the SM-58 is my pick any day of the week for singing or speech.

    • @thorssensgamesNCC1701
      @thorssensgamesNCC1701 2 роки тому +1

      I use it for gameplay videos and I like the warm, personal, intimate feel I get from the SM58 and I am a tenor also. I like to have my viewers feel like they are here with me sharing in the experience.

    • @davebooth5847
      @davebooth5847 Рік тому +1

      I'm a baritone and I gotta admit I USE the proximity effect on the SM58. Getting just into the edge of it gives a fatter and warmer sound to my lower notes. Even without that I'd much rather have the frequencies there coming from the mic where if I want 'em gone I can EQ 'em out. If the mic doesn't send 'em to the board you can't put 'em back in

    • @dandillon2163
      @dandillon2163 Рік тому

      If you only get one wedge at 12 o'clock right in your face the 58 works great. Very good gain before feedback. It has a great null spot back there. If you have the luxury of two wedges though, one at say 10 o'clock and the other at 2 o'clock the 58a has its best nul spots there (even better than the absolute rear of the mic) as you can see from the posters polar pattern demonstration. So you get a wedge aimed basically at each ear and the perception of much more volume. Inverse Square Law: double the number of speakers, double the perceived volume.
      So if price is no object, the 58a is only slightly more money when you consider the cost of adding that second monitor wedge to get the most out of your foldback situation.

  • @sandersson1
    @sandersson1 2 роки тому

    Incredibly high-quality video, especially considering the subcount

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  2 роки тому

      Thank you!
      It has been my goal all along...I appreciate the kind words!!

  • @bluey-uo9li
    @bluey-uo9li Рік тому

    Cool tests brother ,It's in the name beta. Better happy new years🎊🎉🌅🙏

  • @esteladelmar-tango
    @esteladelmar-tango Рік тому

    I don't go anywhere without my Beta58. Great video, thanks a lot!

  • @darrenhunt7838
    @darrenhunt7838 Рік тому

    I got an SM 58 as a free bonus when I bought a pair of KRK powered studio monitors and I can’t fault it. I only use it in my studio so for me it’s perfect.

  • @paulswartz9104
    @paulswartz9104 2 місяці тому

    I created a Beta 58a by 4:12 replacing the grill on a Beta 57a with a grill from a Behringer XM 8500.The threads on XM 8500 are a bit larger so I built up the threads on the Beta 57a with pipe thread tape wraping them till the tape was flush with the OD of the mic.Screw the new grill on and you're done,works great! Made a great change in the performance of this michrophone for vocals.😅😅

  • @alexredfield1943
    @alexredfield1943 2 роки тому

    The best video I've seen on the subject. My 85A is on its way ;)

  • @nunoandradebluesdrive
    @nunoandradebluesdrive Рік тому

    I don't know if the upgrade makes a lot of sense. The extra boominess of the proximity effect of the sm58 can be dealt with - a small distance using a foam windshield (also a good shock preventing idea), and eq. The extra power of the beta is cool, but the extra bass roll off sounds a little too much, - to sound balanced, it seems one must be touching the grill, and if you want to get closer, it might lack something.

  • @doubledeucedrums
    @doubledeucedrums Рік тому

    Great video Man👍. Subbed.

  • @jayjacqueline615
    @jayjacqueline615 Рік тому

    As a vocalist who mostly croons and only belts when it adds dynamically to the song, I am considering buying the BETA. I have an SM58 which I've owned for several years. I was hoping your demonstration was going to WOW me in favor of the BETA. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. I like them both for different reasons. Sometimes I want the highs, sometimes I want the lows. So I've decided to have one of each. Thanks for the comparison!

  • @steelcantuna
    @steelcantuna 2 роки тому +47

    The original 58 just sounds more "natural" to me. Pretty simple.

    • @saltydog805fishing
      @saltydog805fishing 2 роки тому

      especially at close proximity

    • @kusholhumedeo7851
      @kusholhumedeo7851 Рік тому

      Both are 58 hence how can others know which one do you mean?

    • @Norrad01
      @Norrad01 10 місяців тому

      @@kusholhumedeo7851 The SM58 (“original 58”) was introduced in 1966 and the Beta series was introduced in 1989.

    • @Dunnowhatimdoing
      @Dunnowhatimdoing 10 місяців тому

      Very good point. The 58a sounds like you’re talking into a microphone, whereas the sm58 sounds like you’re talking in a room with someone. The 58a has that more, polished and cleaned up finished product sound

  • @MrBlowncat
    @MrBlowncat Рік тому +1

    I like the low end of the SM58 😎👍🏼

  • @cobass1840
    @cobass1840 Рік тому +4

    I have had both and to me the biggest difference is the feedback on stage. The Beta seems to help somewhat. Thanks for the review.

  • @ButeSound
    @ButeSound Рік тому +17

    Beta all day. I use a beta58 in my studio - always live through monitors! for vocal lessons so students can hear themselves really well without the isolation effect of headphones. Perfect. The rejection and quality means any recordings are very usable and in a controlled space I get no feedback with loud monitoring. I liken the recorded sound to be more "condenser like" than the regular 58. Recommend.
    Also was good enough for Bjork in her hayday ;)

  • @backlineguy
    @backlineguy Рік тому

    Great video examples of the two mics. I have used both of these mics in a live situation - festivals, arenas, stadiums, theatres - and I really had no idea of the off-axis rejection abilities of the 58a...until now...but obviously the Sound crew did, which is why they are who they are - some of the MOST important ingredients in the live recipe...thanks for this!

  • @Pucis666
    @Pucis666 Рік тому +1

    As a Death Metal vocalist, I can say, Beta made my voice more colorful, and growls sounded more precise than with a normal 58. I am without a band for 3 years now, but still refuse to get rid of the mic :)

  • @mjcz5853
    @mjcz5853 2 роки тому

    Great video. Have you or can you compare the Beta SM57 vs Beta SM58 please. I’m curious as to which one might be better for podcasting and streaming.

  • @bfrank3468
    @bfrank3468 Місяць тому

    In my opinion, one is not better than another. They both have their place in the audio tool box. I have used both mics live for many years. Examples for the 58 is a violin player that doubles the mic for vocals and acoustic violin, the lack of rejection allows for a generally much fuller sound with less location precision required… same goes for acoustic resonator guitars where sound is coming from every direction. However as mentioned the rejection of the 58 beta is seriously usefull as well. Good informative video. Enjoyed, thanks! For myself I use Telef M80’s, but thats a different story

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 7 місяців тому

    What are your thoughts on the Beta 57? I like it for guitar cabs mixed with a condenser and it's great for a harsh vocalist.

  • @thebrasskeyrealty4432
    @thebrasskeyrealty4432 Рік тому

    I really like the bata, you notice the punch though, with loud amps and drummers. I think it's a big step up and well worth the extra cash. I have two lol.

  • @GregJDaigle
    @GregJDaigle 2 роки тому +11

    Great video! Something that I've experienced, (and why I actually roll with 58's for my SLXD systems) is that the beta58a is amazing at rejecting monitor feedback *IF* they are on a stand parallel with the stage, putting the monitor in the dead spot. When the singer goes handheld, or grabs the mic and tilts it upward, they're super likely to put the monitor right in the slightly live rear of the polar pattern. My personal band uses in-ears, so that wouldn't be a problem, but I do a fair amount of wedding and cover-band sound with rotating singers and high stage volume. I find that the "fine all around" 58 is often preferable to the "great in most areas, but tricky in some" beta58.

  • @OliverWoodphotography
    @OliverWoodphotography 10 місяців тому

    The thing that would sell the b58 to me is the higher output level (-51dBV) I'm keen to keep the noise floor way down low with dynamic mics.

  • @ChrisCondren2
    @ChrisCondren2 4 місяці тому

    SM58 sounds better with your voice. The Beta58A being a super cardioid option is huge in certain situations where you need that rejection. Worth buying both.

  • @carpecoffee7988
    @carpecoffee7988 Рік тому

    When is the ALPHA series coming out ? Would be the best and last microphone you would need to purchase

  • @dallon5
    @dallon5 Рік тому +6

    This was a common topic with a sound crew I worked for. When people say SM 58s sound “natural” it tends to mean “familiar” or “typical”. Because 99% of the vocal mics on stage are SM58s it becomes second nature how to get the sound we think is normal out of them. It also meant we needed to change the EQ on channels when a singer brought their own Beta to the festival. The “Handheld Stage Mic” that really opened my eyes was the Heil PR35. It was so surprising how clear the sound was without fighting feedback.

    • @metalienmusic
      @metalienmusic Рік тому +2

      The Heil Mics really are so much better. I still dislike that i wasted so much time trying to make the SM58 i had 20 years ago sound good. Back then, i thought it can not be the mic because the SM58 is praised everywhere... So i thought it was the room acoustics or the preamp, or my settings... I wasted so much time with this stone age mic. Then i bought a Heil PR20 and all problems were gone. Over the last 20 years i have tried dozens of dynamic microphones. Today i use the PR20, the more expensive PR40 and the SM7B in my studio.

    • @notwaiting-vs9jb
      @notwaiting-vs9jb Рік тому

      @@metalienmusic u use pr20 for singing or what?

  • @dayetonlarson8477
    @dayetonlarson8477 10 місяців тому

    I have both of these mics, but I also have the Audiotechnica AE6100 of which I think is superior. What is your thought?

  • @cliffschannel2521
    @cliffschannel2521 Рік тому

    I used the 58 for years as a stand up lead vox in rock bands but when I started playing guitar and singing I went to the beta as I cant control the mic distance to control the prox effect . With the roll off of the lower frequencies of the beta and the fact that when playing the guitar while singing I sing right on the mic I have a crisper vox than the 58 would deliver singing right into it , it would be to boomy . The extra mid and high boost also cuts through a loud mix better and it sizzles more than the 58 almost like a bit of saturation which again works better for heavy rock . I still use 58's for the rest of the band though and carry as my spare along with 57's . The lack of the prox effect just makes it cut better. Im a very loud singer so feedback isnt much of an issue .

  • @zawanz209
    @zawanz209 Рік тому

    I stay close to mic about an inch which one would you prefer I have base in my voice

  • @veroprz6047
    @veroprz6047 2 роки тому +2

    Justo hoy compre él beta 58 a ., y me ha encantado 👍

  • @KenTeel
    @KenTeel 9 днів тому

    Good job. Thanks !!

  • @mathewjohn8126
    @mathewjohn8126 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Dear Brother. Am gonna purchase the SM 58 A this month itself. Am the lead singer in our Church.

  • @mathewjohn8126
    @mathewjohn8126 2 роки тому

    Sir;
    From your superlative talks am planning to buy a SHURE BETA 58 A for the lead singer seat next week. Thanks Boss

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  2 роки тому

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  • @mr_tw
    @mr_tw Рік тому

    For me, Beta all the way... but mostly because of my day to day needs.
    When I'm running live sound, >>ALL

  • @daviddesmond2143
    @daviddesmond2143 Рік тому

    Great video on great mics. I bought my Shure SM58 in 1972. I have played hundreds of gigs and toured in the Eastern 1/3rd of the USA playing 6 nights a week on the road and never had a problem with the mic. Mine has an on/off switch and if I ever bought a new 58 I would get one with a switch-not only is it handy but you are far less likely to buy one of the many counterfeit SM58's.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Рік тому

      That's a great point about the switch!
      Never thought of that.
      That said I only buy my 58s from physical retailers.

    • @jrv65
      @jrv65 Рік тому

      E eu que achei que só no Brasil tinha falsificado, agora até nos EUA aí para tudo em .

  • @purplemoon3816
    @purplemoon3816 2 роки тому

    So hard to choose... which one for mainly jazz singing? Thx! Subscribed, will learn a lot from you.

    • @dmarlton
      @dmarlton Рік тому

      In my opinion the SM58 is not great for jazz - it dulls all the details and over pushes the p's and b's (a problem if you scat). A condenser mic is what most of the jazz greats used which will pick up the greater range of expressiveness of jazz. (however they are less durable and require phantom power) The closest to that you'll get with a dynamic mic is a sennheiser 945, BUT everyone's voice is different. I find a beta suits me better than the Sennheiser. (but I only found that out by going into a shop and testing them side by side - WHICH I HIGHLY RECCOMEND YOU DO!)

  • @LesArtsdelaParole
    @LesArtsdelaParole 2 роки тому +1

    I hesitated for such a long time...
    Watched many comparisons, and yours was the final point for my decision and I got the sm58.
    I had the extra money for the Beta58, but in the end, for my "a bit" high pitch voice, the sm58 come flatter the medium and give some "deepness" (big word...) to my voice.
    Thank you for you reviews, it is high quality content you're doing !

  • @aarongabbard
    @aarongabbard Рік тому

    the Beta was my favorite stage mic ever.

  • @vockeysandsaxbyjohncole3728

    The 58 is forever my mic on vocals and sax

  • @GeorgiRusev
    @GeorgiRusev 6 місяців тому

    Which one is better for vocoder singing?

  • @riharrds
    @riharrds Рік тому

    thank you for this comparison :)

  • @aleksamrkela831
    @aleksamrkela831 6 днів тому

    Beta all the way! I vastly prefer how lively it sounds on stage. :D

  • @artokujala
    @artokujala Рік тому

    For live use I like the Beta better 👍🏻 especially for me with low growling vocals from close in front of the mic that low cut is crucial.

  • @LauraEcaterina
    @LauraEcaterina 5 місяців тому

    Hey. I would like to kmow if its working without box, stereo for the audio ? So I connect the cable on the electric stuff at my wall and I can sing using the music on my phone ?