I’m lowkey on both sides. Scyan does not need to be THAT dramatic about this but still he’s right. This season is a huge advertisement and the story has just gotten lost.
It’s kinda ironic how Ch2S2 was so beloved because of the characters, the story and the gameplay, and one of the biggest criticisms for Fortnite in 2024 was it being a huge ad. So instead of paying homage to the Chapter like they did with Fortnite OG they just slapped the rappers on the locations where the bosses used to spawn lmfao.
I kinda do agree with scyan but he was being a baby. The overreaction and crying was so unnecessary, I want the story to continue too but that doesn’t mean i’m gonna sit on my highchair and refuse to play like a baby who doesn’t like his food. And to top it all off he was pretty disrespectful regarding juice wrld
exactly, he's right, but nobody likes a radical 🍑-hole, people like him make the community look bad when all we want is for the devs to be inventive and outstanding again, without relying on overpriced collabs to lead the way
There’s really no reason we can’t have both story events and concerts when we used to get both. Events haven’t hit the same since Collision, Fracture at least properly concluded Chapter 3. Big Bang and Prelude couldn’t even bother to do that
I couldn’t give a single fck about the story but at least it was the foundation for cool events. I genuinely can’t remember when was the last time I saw a cool live event that made me exited to hop on and watch it with my friends. I do kinda agree with Scyan in this, live events went from a cool, well, event that attracted players with what Epic Games was capable of doing, to big giant ads that attract players with what IPs Epic Games is capable of adding to the game. The Juice WRLD situation is another thing in which I have to agree with Scyan. I have no doubt the tribute is being made with respect and admiration, but if they really cared it would’ve happened 4 years ago when he actually passed away, or even last year when they played Eminem’s “Godzilla” on the event. They’re just adding him now because, who would’ve guessed, they’re releasing a posthumous album for him. Not to be that guy but, they’re clearly making money off of him and everyone just seems to be fine with that. Maybe Scyan worded their tweets wrong, but I 100% understand their frustration and can agree with them.
I like the juice wrld promo and the artists behind it (minus murakami i hope that guy gets sent to hell lowkey), i think if there was ever a time to put juice wrld in the game now is it, now is it the season? MAYBE, because do remember the best fortnite event Astroworld(imo and to a lot of people) came in Ch2, qnd this event's hype may have a similar aura but idk
If they never cared about making a tribute to juice they wouldn't have never added him to the game. Just because they didn't make a tribute to him the second he died doesn't mean they didn't care about him.
Lets not forget he tweeted “Honor your own game first Then honor someone else in a season that is not end of a chapter.” More disrespectful than the Kidz Bop cover of lucid dreams.
Ever since Chapter 5, The Fortnite community have fell off hard, more divided than before, having more dramas compare to Chapter 4 or even all prev chapters combined. Seriously, Chapter 5 is when the state of the community has reached its worst. I don’t know whether it would get better, or stay that way, or get even worse. This realisation is so horrifying to me that I personally find it hard to even enjoy talking or even thinking about future Fortnite updates. I can’t be excited for Chapter 6 without thinking how bad would drama happen next chapter or how divisive the community will become that even make Chapter 5’s tamer in comparison.
I agree he does have a point BUT it sounds like he's only thinking about what he will find appealing and not the community he can go on and on about the lore and his opinions but at the end of the day it's just fortnite.
As a juice wrld fan and Fortnite lore enjoyer I agree with the Shyam that the concerts should have been separate so that juice and the rappers could have their moment to shine and that the live event will be lore focused. All I can hope now is that epic has a good balance of doing a good juice tribute and adding lore to the event.
You beat me to my thoughts; this is the third time Fortnite bout to cut off a chapter with a rapper, and both sides already expressed how much they hate it; Lore-enjoyers hate that celebrity influence is overwriting the original plot over being a simple cameo, and collab-goers hate that the performances are underwhelming compared to the Travis Scott concert. So idk why Epic Games is tripling-down on it. Maybe they should end chapters less often so they have that extra time to cook something peak and consult player feedback. Can't believe were on Ch 6 already, makes 5 & 4 feel like a blur
Honestly I think its great for people to have their own opinion. And also sharing it is okay too. But if someone comes at you and makes claims against whatever opinion you have, I don't think it is necessary to continue the argument that someone else started. It is very immature and stupid. I also agree with you when saying the community should just come together and whatnot.
Considering scyan's channel is completely built around the story and he earns his money to live off of bc of that story, he has every right to be dramatic. Shiina and hypex will always have leaks to make money off no matter what so them telling scyan he shouldn't care is honestly very shallow minded. As for the juice wrld thing, scyan couldve worded it better but I agree with the sentiment, if this was TRULY a tribute to juice, they wouldn't be selling a skin of him for real world money, the concert also wouldn't include other random rappers either, comes across as disingenuous from epic to say it's a tribute to him when they are making money off of him.
this situation is so immature n pathetic, theyre argueing over a money hungry kids game while being grown ass men. of course the juice wrld events an ad for money, this is how business works
Genuinely, especially when the arguments often don't lead to anything constructive. People are so quick to say remove it outright, or to nerf it into the ground, instead of actually looking at the problems and suggest rebalancing accordingly. Cars do need nerfs, but only to hp, the guns in wrecked season were not the problem with them. And the stations that heal them do need to have an overhaul to only heal up to x amount of hp, so that blowtorches have a use. Then, vehicles mods can return without dominating. Weapon mods are also flawed, but that's because you can't change them on the fly, and the stations are limited to vaults and 1 moving location, and most are underpowered compared to outright negating recoil. So just, add more stations and weapon mods, and wackier guns to mod, like a charge mod with dragons breath on full charge, or an under barrel explosive secondary that replaces the scope and uses rocket ammo, or a barrel that changes the ammo type to heavy, giving you more recoil but hitting like a truck. So many things could be done instead of scrapping, like hell, i don't like the old guns and the remix season as a whole because of it, but og is coming back full time, so clearly they can do that without scrapping the br mode for it. Please, everyone, chill out, and learn some creativity and problem solving skills, instead of pointing out what everyone already knows and suggesting an extreme messure.
Honestly, as someone who has been playing Fortnite since December 2022 and avoids the Fortnite Community, I quite like being in my own little bubble of watching the mini Live Events, cool concerts, and enjoying the Story Quests. Whenever I see drama like this online, it makes me confused and upset.
Here's my other thing. Yesterday on Stream Klarque made a joke about Juice dying by taking too many mini's alongside Jo Jo Josiah who when Juice Wrld was revealed during Remix he himself made a joke about "We're going to haunted hills with this one" So they defend Scyan on it being a misunderstanding and poor wording only for them to make a whole joke about his death in the end and then when they are critcised for it they label it as "Oh it's just edgy humour don't get so worked up". If you were to make a joke about the death of someone I cared for and then said it's just edgy humour I'm not kidding when I say I'd punch you in the face then and their!!!! They lost the argument after that. Also yeah I agree I don't really care about the lore anymore. It really did become FNAF type lore. I really only care about the fun gameplay and skins. I feel a soft reboot helps it out and just keeping it simple. Good video as well. I've been liking your vids recently so you've earned my sub
@ yeah you can understand FNAF lore to a decent amount just by playing the games. Fortnite’s you need to watch full hours of video essays just to understand why The Batman Who Laughs is making a Congo line of himself
I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos, I can tell you put so much effort into everything, I’m so happy I found your channel and have been a fan for multiple months now
Bro ngl the whole time I was just thinking like "man people always like to say, if you don't like it, stop playing the game" and he did and people got mad about it
I find Scyan's posting about how and I quote "Honor your own game first, then honor someone else in a season that is not the end of a chapter" made me lose any semblance of respect for him. And I never heard of the guy til recently. I get being frustrated about the game's story being sidelined for more metaverse slop but he legit is treating this like they're ignoring the story to shill more content out. I'm not a Juice fan, but him losing his shit this much felt more like he's throwing a tantrum. There's a very clear line in the sand about your stance on this and he very clearly is more obsessed with stepping over that line and screaming into the void about pointless nonsense. Also, that dude pumping out a long tweet defending Scyan feels more like he's coming to the defense of a friend and nothing else. It's 2 prominent leakers voicing their displeasure with how a guy is acting. Not sending their legion of fans and followers to belittle and hate on him. If you pick up a person making a joke about a person's actions as sending their fans to harass them, then that's more telling of you as a person than anything.
It is an end of chapter though, this season is ending off Chapter 5 which is why they should have made this event in a different season. What Scyan said was justified yt what wasn’t is hypex taking his words out of context then proceeding to send his fans over to attack him
Klarque can’t say anything about “defending a smaller creator getting shit on by people with larger platforms” when him, Jojo, and Clen literally made multiple reactions on stream to Bennjipie’s videos. All they did was shit on him and call him entitled. They kept bringing him and his takes up on separate streams. Benn wasn’t even at 10k subs during that. Then Klarques over here trying to play moral compass. It’s hilarious
@@despacitoking237now if I remember correctly Ben was the one who started the drama and for whatever reason brought up clens family which was just uncalled for but it is resolved now clen and the rest
@@Monster-6524 no Klarque reacted to Benn’s “epic is getting lazy” video (He even stated that he already watched it off stream but wanted to watch it on stream again so that’s just weird) Then a few streams later Klarque reacted to another one of Benn’s videos. That same week Klarque brought up the “epic is getting lazy” video while playing with his friends and started getting pissed at his takes/the community. Like a week later Clen and Jojo reacted to 2 Benn videos on their streams. (Klarque wasn’t in call with them but was in chat watching along with them being an asshole(this is Klarques 3rd time watching “epic is getting lazy”) Not to mention that Klarque literally promoted Jojo and Clen’s streams in Klarques discord. He hardly ever promotes anything that isn’t his own content so it’s super out of character. It wasn’t until then when Benn decided to respond. Benn “bringing up Clen’s child” is a super broad statement. He said that “these people are all grown adults, one of them has a child.” People think this was disgusting for reasons I can’t understand. When I saw that I took it as a way to explain that these guys have families and commitments yet still act immature online. I didn’t see it as malicious. But yes Clen and Benn did sort it out. But Klarque preaching about “being responsible with your platform” is hypocritical
Also I want to add that Klarques thumbnails for “reacting” to Benn’s videos were him face palming to Benn’s videos with the text “REACTING TO THE COMMUNITYS WORST TAKES??” It was bad faith from the very start
You are right, it may be time to move on, but the story never did end. What happened? Where did the seven go? Epic just left us in questions. Did they forget? I don’t know. R. I. P. Fortnite storyline.
ok heres my thing im taking away here. like i understand moving away from the previous story is needed, however we need something of similar quality to take its place. i'm not saying it has to be the same, im just saying we need something of similar quality that can take place and can end when a new chapter begins. i don't have a problem with that, however its abit difficult to get into it when we have collebrity events and collab seasons mixed in with it sense it tends to throw off what the story is building up too for the sake of advertising. like for example, have one chapter that is focused on a common identity like a steam punk chapter that slowly becomes more futuristic, then at the end of that chapter, we get a new story about a new them. it gives more oprotunity to insert interesting ideas wile also having a cohesive story that doesn't need to be repeated latter on. like this chapter for example, season 1: japanese mythology season 2: cyberpunk themed season 3: gaming themed season 4: anime themed
On god like bro this is the game where you can have a squad between Goku Eminem Deadpool and soon Godzilla like come on now be fucking adults, like on one hand do Scyan realize that people are playing to I don't know PLAY A VIDEO GAME not for some damn lore while Hypex has a big following that can harass him and maybe even dox him because Twitter being twitter someone will do it over a person they don't like.
As someone who followed the whole thing from the jump and have parents who’s first language is not English, I knew exactly what he meant. I can see why but it was obviously miscommunication.
I always find it ironic people say epic is moving away from the games base origin and it’s losing its identity with the lack of story. It’s just funny as save the world is the true soul of fortnite and all being the original.
Bro ngl I hate klarque or whatever gaming he’s annoying, acts like a child, and is just a overall just a sad person. But I honestly just don’t care about this drama
I'm just sick of older Fortnite fans sobbing that the game doesn't care about them anymore. Like, Jesus Christ, look at the rushed early development of BR and seriously tell me that they should've kept whatever rushed story they cobbled together
i honestly used to be really invested in the story, and while i dont think every event needs to be the foundation trying to stop batman from eating a shard of the zero point, i feel that if there was proper closure to many of the MAJOR plot points like the seven and the io, it would be fine, but instead of even trying to maybe incorporate SOMEwhere, or trying to shut down the old storyline for the new, they just constantly add more and more.
As a lore fan of the game, I do agree that Scyan is overacting too much. Honestly, he gives the lore asecpt of the community a bad rap. Don't get me wrong, I do understand why he is upset given the state of the lore, but at the end of the day, I do know that Fortnite can't just soloy focus on the lore. And that's fine. Me at least, I'm just glad with the lore that is given. Gives me more stuff to headcanon.
i personally am all for the old storyline to be reinstated cuz i grew up with it, i loved it and followed along with it through the years, but to straight up cause a whole Drama over a story is nuts in my opinion, you can be as passionate as you want about something but when it causes issues with people around you i think you got a problem honestly. Plus the whole Juice Wrld thing was so out of line, i could see from his POV what it could look like but like its a Tribute, deal with it like bruh 🤦♂
Basically from what i understand scyan was expressing his opinion about how he didn't like the event and i get people are annoyed by that but you dont have to start a beef over it you can mabye say ur opinion and agree to disagree and move on.
Scyan is right. They are using juice wrld for profit. If epic actually cared about juice wrld the event would be solely focused on him. They are using him like a character and not treating him like a human being who sadly passed too soon.
The storyline has always been the magic that has been kept me playing, seeing epic completely shaft the storyline for all of chapter 4 and then follow up with one of the worst stories I have ever seen in my life is just sad and made me stop playing for most of chapter 4 and chapter 5. it is completely understandable how Sycan is acting to me, I feel like he shouldn't be whining about it as much as he is, but he's coming from a place that I understand. Epic forgot that the storyline gives people like him a reason to come back to the game every week to listen to the storyline and watch the build up to a season ending event that everyone comes together to watch, we don't have that anymore because nobody cares, there's barely any story in the game, the live events barely relate to the story of the seasons, and they're now sidelining the storyline for more metaverse slop. I'm looking forward to the finale event, but from the teasers I've seen, it isn't even finished right now and we are 2 days away from the event, I feel like they're going to do the bare minimum like The Big Bang, but if not I'll gladly watch the event.
Ok this will probably Be a long take but i have to say this personaly i kinda agree with Scyan, because with the Snoop Dog Concert i thought to myself why isn't this in Party Royale, (I know nobody plays this mode) but i still find it weird, that it's the same premise of looking at a screen and it wasn't used in a mode that was made for it. i know this part will be pretty hard to pull of but i think every mode should have it's own things (Real concerts) like the Travis scoot one should be in Fortnite Festival because music artist have to do with music and not Battle Royale, and (Real life concerts) Like the Snoop Dog one should be in Party Royale so you know..... people will maybe start getting comfortable with the Metaverse. Like i don't understand how Epic thinks that not updating a gamemode will lead to success.
@@Coolers_1there are five realities that the Zero Point pulls from (Medieval, jungle, japan (futuristic), greek, and ice world) when getting loopers and POIs. Doesn’t make much sense since there is also a Marvel and DC reality bare minimum. But in all reality the reason is those five are easy for a audience to understand so those are what Epic pulls from for characters and POIs
My personal thoughts are, I agree, CH2 Remix was a little confused in it's identity, is it CH2 or is it Rappers? I would have preferred if it's focused on the Rappers. Maybe it is a bit Ad-y but these artists were still probably wanting to contribute to this tribute to Juice WRLD, who was a fortnite player and a member of our community. I think it's perfectly VALID for someone to go "Naw, this isn't for me" or feel it undermines the story. If he doesn't want to play Fortnite for a season, then that's Scyan's right. Hell, aside from quickly doing the BP, I mostly skipped CH5S4 because I was tired of Marvel and The Wanderer turning out to be Dr. Doom just killed my investment. But that's just me personally. But what I don't agree with is how Scyan was using Donald Mustard's name to establish a moral grounds. Chances are Donald Mustard either doesn't care or he's completely fine with it, even before Donald Mustard's departure from being the lead creative direction he was still very much involved with the promotional collab stuff in Fortnite, even going as far as having them involved with the story. If he isn't let him speak for himself, don't act like Donald Mustard's knight, because what it comes off to me is like "If you support this, you are against Donald Mustard!"
No one would care about the story if the event made sense. Nothing about rappers has to do with spy’s. Fortnight is using chapter 2 to click bait a rapper tribute. I have no clue or care about juice world. And its super annoying.
I do think Scyan was being a little annoying about all this, and he definitely put his foot in his mouth with how he worded his tweet about the Juice WRLD tribute. All that said, I do also think Hypex and Shiina escalated the whole thing unnecessarily and I don't get why they were so mad at him specifically. I'm not totally up to date with everything the two of them get up to, but they always seemed like pretty level headed and reasonable people to me, Hypex especially. So it just seems really weird to me that they'd go so hard after a smaller figure in the community like that. It almost came off like they had beef with him already and this was just the inciting incident that made them lose it, but that's baseless speculation. Honestly I felt bad for Scyan coming out of it even though I did find him pretty off-putting at first. I think everyone involved can take this as a learning experience, and I hope that they do.
I think it’s important to say that this video forgot about a specific tweet that was particularly disrespectful where scyan said “Honor your own game first Then honor someone else in a season that is not end of a chapter." It’s not really something yiu should say about a guy who played a part in the success of Fortnite.
@@Quintapion That whole SoundCloud era of rap heavily advertised the game because all of the rappers were playing it and the montages that came from their music.
This is so sad, I can't believe Theodore Maurice Hedgehog, also known as Sonny Hedgehog but commonly known as "Sonic T. Hedgehog" killed himself. 1 sub to excetraz = 1 prayer idk man I'm tired
Creating whatever ourselves wouldn't make it official. Redoing live events isn't an official thing, thus not canon. I can't create something that retells the original story and continue it myself without some sort of consequence from Epic. Maybe a close copy?
I have a lot of thoughts I just wanna jot down. The juice world thing is kinda strange cause they are still charging for his second skin. They are still profiting off this “good deed”. The collab thing is just really sad. Epics ultra-capitalist mindset is so depressing nowadays. They can’t even rely on, and let this sink in, AN OLD LOVED CONCEPT THATS NOT SOMETHING NEW/CREATIVE without shoving in collbas. This game is so sad because so much of it is a billboard. Fortnite isn’t original because that doesn’t make money. The story has never been fantastic. People praise it when it hasn’t been hot shit ever. The only cohesive and logical plot we got was ch2.s7-ch3.s2 (ignoring natural disaster type events). The story is now just a justification for colllabs but they have stopped doing even that now. Fortnite is a shell of its formal self and I still love the game but not the immense amount of stupid collabs. I love to see creativity and looking at Fortnite you aren’t seeing as much.
I think Scyan forget that not every thing in Fortnite should be story related, and sometime is good old fun, and the season is just for a months, so we would go back storytelling again in CH6S1, because if he want to criticize the event, he should have worded it better than “honor your game first, then honor someone else in a season that is not end of a chapter”, because that wording is disrespectful, considering that Juice WRLD always been a Fortnite fans, and this is how some Fortnite content creator say about it, but hey, Scyan is the same guy that say CH3 is inspired by of all things, WW2, and Klarque, well, not to much to say, other than the fact he keep on trying to keep gatekeeping old BP, and analogous it to a real physical products, even though this are digital object, and can be producible at high rate, and really, this drama wouldn’t have happened if Scyan shut about it, and take a break from storyline for a while
I mean to be honest Scyan didnt even have to express his opinion on the prelude and like could've just kept it to himself and He didnt have to reply to HYPEX.
I don't understand why they're fighting over it. Mustard left Epic because they decided the storyline isn't important enough and started moving all talents towar the money printing objective: "The Metaverse". I loved the storyline, it made the game unique, but it's clear that Epic lost that passion about it and we should too.
That’s just stupid to fight over his opinion. A lot of people didn’t care for this season. I was happy it was only a month and just played for the battle pass.
“STOP FIGHTING” is literally every 4 year old I play with in a squad trying to talk to a player
FR
Tbh i haven't taken scyan seriously or with respect since the day he said Fortnite's storyline was "kinda like ww2 and the Holocaust"
I’m lowkey on both sides. Scyan does not need to be THAT dramatic about this but still he’s right. This season is a huge advertisement and the story has just gotten lost.
It’s kinda ironic how Ch2S2 was so beloved because of the characters, the story and the gameplay, and one of the biggest criticisms for Fortnite in 2024 was it being a huge ad. So instead of paying homage to the Chapter like they did with Fortnite OG they just slapped the rappers on the locations where the bosses used to spawn lmfao.
Exactly
He is not right
The thing about scyan is he’s joking and hypex took it to heart
Me too like a concert is cool but not in a end event
These are grown-ass men, let that sink in.
Kids mostly play Fortnite my dude and that being you can’t do jack about it
so? niggas cant play videogames anymore what year is it 2014
@@Khayreee18 to 24 years old are kids for you
Depressing to think about.
Okay, the sink is in, what do I do now
At least we getting Godzilla and Baymax in the battlepass
Fr gonna be peak
Only good skins in the battle pass imo
Crasy how some people don't know baymax
@@noahnat609 it's your opinion however the new Hope and the Oni girl are pretty good too.
@@charlesbomerschein9707yeah they do look pretty cool
I kinda do agree with scyan but he was being a baby. The overreaction and crying was so unnecessary, I want the story to continue too but that doesn’t mean i’m gonna sit on my highchair and refuse to play like a baby who doesn’t like his food. And to top it all off he was pretty disrespectful regarding juice wrld
exactly, he's right, but nobody likes a radical 🍑-hole, people like him make the community look bad when all we want is for the devs to be inventive and outstanding again, without relying on overpriced collabs to lead the way
Yeah he's just a Chapter 1 baby XD
There’s really no reason we can’t have both story events and concerts when we used to get both. Events haven’t hit the same since Collision, Fracture at least properly concluded Chapter 3. Big Bang and Prelude couldn’t even bother to do that
I couldn’t give a single fck about the story but at least it was the foundation for cool events. I genuinely can’t remember when was the last time I saw a cool live event that made me exited to hop on and watch it with my friends. I do kinda agree with Scyan in this, live events went from a cool, well, event that attracted players with what Epic Games was capable of doing, to big giant ads that attract players with what IPs Epic Games is capable of adding to the game.
The Juice WRLD situation is another thing in which I have to agree with Scyan. I have no doubt the tribute is being made with respect and admiration, but if they really cared it would’ve happened 4 years ago when he actually passed away, or even last year when they played Eminem’s “Godzilla” on the event. They’re just adding him now because, who would’ve guessed, they’re releasing a posthumous album for him. Not to be that guy but, they’re clearly making money off of him and everyone just seems to be fine with that.
Maybe Scyan worded their tweets wrong, but I 100% understand their frustration and can agree with them.
I like the juice wrld promo and the artists behind it (minus murakami i hope that guy gets sent to hell lowkey), i think if there was ever a time to put juice wrld in the game now is it, now is it the season? MAYBE, because do remember the best fortnite event Astroworld(imo and to a lot of people) came in Ch2, qnd this event's hype may have a similar aura but idk
If they never cared about making a tribute to juice they wouldn't have never added him to the game. Just because they didn't make a tribute to him the second he died doesn't mean they didn't care about him.
Lets not forget he tweeted “Honor your own game first
Then honor someone else in a season that is not end of a chapter.” More disrespectful than the Kidz Bop cover of lucid dreams.
Ever since Chapter 5, The Fortnite community have fell off hard, more divided than before, having more dramas compare to Chapter 4 or even all prev chapters combined.
Seriously, Chapter 5 is when the state of the community has reached its worst. I don’t know whether it would get better, or stay that way, or get even worse.
This realisation is so horrifying to me that I personally find it hard to even enjoy talking or even thinking about future Fortnite updates.
I can’t be excited for Chapter 6 without thinking how bad would drama happen next chapter or how divisive the community will become that even make Chapter 5’s tamer in comparison.
I agree he does have a point BUT it sounds like he's only thinking about what he will find appealing and not the community he can go on and on about the lore and his opinions but at the end of the day it's just fortnite.
7:57 this caught me off guard lol 😂
As a juice wrld fan and Fortnite lore enjoyer I agree with the Shyam that the concerts should have been separate so that juice and the rappers could have their moment to shine and that the live event will be lore focused. All I can hope now is that epic has a good balance of doing a good juice tribute and adding lore to the event.
Why agree with scyan lol
@@gamerbeast3616because despite dramatizing it he makes some genuine good points?
You beat me to my thoughts; this is the third time Fortnite bout to cut off a chapter with a rapper, and both sides already expressed how much they hate it; Lore-enjoyers hate that celebrity influence is overwriting the original plot over being a simple cameo, and collab-goers hate that the performances are underwhelming compared to the Travis Scott concert. So idk why Epic Games is tripling-down on it.
Maybe they should end chapters less often so they have that extra time to cook something peak and consult player feedback. Can't believe were on Ch 6 already, makes 5 & 4 feel like a blur
Honestly I think its great for people to have their own opinion. And also sharing it is okay too. But if someone comes at you and makes claims against whatever opinion you have, I don't think it is necessary to continue the argument that someone else started. It is very immature and stupid. I also agree with you when saying the community should just come together and whatnot.
Considering scyan's channel is completely built around the story and he earns his money to live off of bc of that story, he has every right to be dramatic. Shiina and hypex will always have leaks to make money off no matter what so them telling scyan he shouldn't care is honestly very shallow minded. As for the juice wrld thing, scyan couldve worded it better but I agree with the sentiment, if this was TRULY a tribute to juice, they wouldn't be selling a skin of him for real world money, the concert also wouldn't include other random rappers either, comes across as disingenuous from epic to say it's a tribute to him when they are making money off of him.
As a sonic adventure lover I insta subbed from that skit
I’m just happy Rap monster (Godzilla Emote) finally released
Fastest purchase of my life
Clint love to argue and evert time he debates someone he cuts them off rudely , Clint needs to learn how to talk to people 😊
The sonic cut away gag was unexpected lol
I was honestly unaware tbh
this situation is so immature n pathetic, theyre argueing over a money hungry kids game while being grown ass men. of course the juice wrld events an ad for money, this is how business works
Genuinely, especially when the arguments often don't lead to anything constructive. People are so quick to say remove it outright, or to nerf it into the ground, instead of actually looking at the problems and suggest rebalancing accordingly. Cars do need nerfs, but only to hp, the guns in wrecked season were not the problem with them. And the stations that heal them do need to have an overhaul to only heal up to x amount of hp, so that blowtorches have a use. Then, vehicles mods can return without dominating. Weapon mods are also flawed, but that's because you can't change them on the fly, and the stations are limited to vaults and 1 moving location, and most are underpowered compared to outright negating recoil. So just, add more stations and weapon mods, and wackier guns to mod, like a charge mod with dragons breath on full charge, or an under barrel explosive secondary that replaces the scope and uses rocket ammo, or a barrel that changes the ammo type to heavy, giving you more recoil but hitting like a truck. So many things could be done instead of scrapping, like hell, i don't like the old guns and the remix season as a whole because of it, but og is coming back full time, so clearly they can do that without scrapping the br mode for it. Please, everyone, chill out, and learn some creativity and problem solving skills, instead of pointing out what everyone already knows and suggesting an extreme messure.
Honestly, as someone who has been playing Fortnite since December 2022 and avoids the Fortnite Community, I quite like being in my own little bubble of watching the mini Live Events, cool concerts, and enjoying the Story Quests. Whenever I see drama like this online, it makes me confused and upset.
Facts, I also do that, I just enjoy the events, storyline, and collabs on my own
Here's my other thing. Yesterday on Stream Klarque made a joke about Juice dying by taking too many mini's alongside Jo Jo Josiah who when Juice Wrld was revealed during Remix he himself made a joke about "We're going to haunted hills with this one" So they defend Scyan on it being a misunderstanding and poor wording only for them to make a whole joke about his death in the end and then when they are critcised for it they label it as "Oh it's just edgy humour don't get so worked up". If you were to make a joke about the death of someone I cared for and then said it's just edgy humour I'm not kidding when I say I'd punch you in the face then and their!!!! They lost the argument after that. Also yeah I agree I don't really care about the lore anymore. It really did become FNAF type lore. I really only care about the fun gameplay and skins. I feel a soft reboot helps it out and just keeping it simple. Good video as well. I've been liking your vids recently so you've earned my sub
And even Fnaf is still comprehensible over Fortnite XD
@ yeah you can understand FNAF lore to a decent amount just by playing the games. Fortnite’s you need to watch full hours of video essays just to understand why The Batman Who Laughs is making a Congo line of himself
Ngl that sonic skit made me subscribe
I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos, I can tell you put so much effort into everything, I’m so happy I found your channel and have been a fan for multiple months now
Bro ngl the whole time I was just thinking like "man people always like to say, if you don't like it, stop playing the game" and he did and people got mad about it
I find Scyan's posting about how and I quote "Honor your own game first, then honor someone else in a season that is not the end of a chapter" made me lose any semblance of respect for him. And I never heard of the guy til recently. I get being frustrated about the game's story being sidelined for more metaverse slop but he legit is treating this like they're ignoring the story to shill more content out. I'm not a Juice fan, but him losing his shit this much felt more like he's throwing a tantrum. There's a very clear line in the sand about your stance on this and he very clearly is more obsessed with stepping over that line and screaming into the void about pointless nonsense. Also, that dude pumping out a long tweet defending Scyan feels more like he's coming to the defense of a friend and nothing else. It's 2 prominent leakers voicing their displeasure with how a guy is acting. Not sending their legion of fans and followers to belittle and hate on him. If you pick up a person making a joke about a person's actions as sending their fans to harass them, then that's more telling of you as a person than anything.
It is an end of chapter though, this season is ending off Chapter 5 which is why they should have made this event in a different season. What Scyan said was justified yt what wasn’t is hypex taking his words out of context then proceeding to send his fans over to attack him
6:21 Not really, the concerts fell off
That's entirely subjective lol
I loved the Metallica concert/rocket racing map
Klarque can’t say anything about “defending a smaller creator getting shit on by people with larger platforms” when him, Jojo, and Clen literally made multiple reactions on stream to Bennjipie’s videos. All they did was shit on him and call him entitled. They kept bringing him and his takes up on separate streams. Benn wasn’t even at 10k subs during that. Then Klarques over here trying to play moral compass. It’s hilarious
I know, right?! I even commented on clen's video that klarque self-reflecting on hypex 😂
@@despacitoking237now if I remember correctly Ben was the one who started the drama and for whatever reason brought up clens family which was just uncalled for but it is resolved now clen and the rest
@@Monster-6524 no Klarque reacted to Benn’s “epic is getting lazy” video (He even stated that he already watched it off stream but wanted to watch it on stream again so that’s just weird)
Then a few streams later Klarque reacted to another one of Benn’s videos.
That same week Klarque brought up the “epic is getting lazy” video while playing with his friends and started getting pissed at his takes/the community.
Like a week later Clen and Jojo reacted to 2 Benn videos on their streams. (Klarque wasn’t in call with them but was in chat watching along with them being an asshole(this is Klarques 3rd time watching “epic is getting lazy”)
Not to mention that Klarque literally promoted Jojo and Clen’s streams in Klarques discord. He hardly ever promotes anything that isn’t his own content so it’s super out of character.
It wasn’t until then when Benn decided to respond. Benn “bringing up Clen’s child” is a super broad statement. He said that “these people are all grown adults, one of them has a child.”
People think this was disgusting for reasons I can’t understand. When I saw that I took it as a way to explain that these guys have families and commitments yet still act immature online. I didn’t see it as malicious.
But yes Clen and Benn did sort it out. But Klarque preaching about “being responsible with your platform” is hypocritical
Also I want to add that Klarques thumbnails for “reacting” to Benn’s videos were him face palming to Benn’s videos with the text “REACTING TO THE COMMUNITYS WORST TAKES??” It was bad faith from the very start
At least clen had some brain power to go and talk to the guy in private later and resolve the situation
You are right, it may be time to move on, but the story never did end. What happened? Where did the seven go? Epic just left us in questions. Did they forget? I don’t know. R. I. P. Fortnite storyline.
We’ll be in Chapter 6 Season 3 and they will still be fighting over Chapter 2 Remix. Heck even in Chapter 8 this fight would still be happening.
ok heres my thing im taking away here. like i understand moving away from the previous story is needed, however we need something of similar quality to take its place. i'm not saying it has to be the same, im just saying we need something of similar quality that can take place and can end when a new chapter begins. i don't have a problem with that, however its abit difficult to get into it when we have collebrity events and collab seasons mixed in with it sense it tends to throw off what the story is building up too for the sake of advertising. like for example, have one chapter that is focused on a common identity like a steam punk chapter that slowly becomes more futuristic, then at the end of that chapter, we get a new story about a new them. it gives more oprotunity to insert interesting ideas wile also having a cohesive story that doesn't need to be repeated latter on.
like this chapter for example,
season 1: japanese mythology
season 2: cyberpunk themed
season 3: gaming themed
season 4: anime themed
It's amusing just seeing this from an outsider perspective
My day was terrible because I couldn’t play Fortnite
Why not😢
touch grass bro
Theres other things in life than Fortnite lil bro
That some rs.
I feel you✌️
like I always say everyone is different you can't make everyone happy
I agree with you
Hes got somewhat of a point about the juice world thing, why is he only a fourth of his own tribute lineup?
Also if they wanted to honor him they could have donated some of the money they made to drug awareness
@@Agudnameo yea lets just donate money to spread awareness that taking the wrong pill can kill u
Them turkey and rolls were hittin 😫
Fr😫
@@Galaxy_glexOH YEEEEEEAH 😫
Mom and dad are fighting again
"Mom and dad"
Thats a good one😂
I like how these grown ass men are arguing over a video game what has the world come to😂😂
Real
On god like bro this is the game where you can have a squad between Goku Eminem Deadpool and soon Godzilla like come on now be fucking adults, like on one hand do Scyan realize that people are playing to I don't know PLAY A VIDEO GAME not for some damn lore while Hypex has a big following that can harass him and maybe even dox him because Twitter being twitter someone will do it over a person they don't like.
@@KobeMoreno I understand that making Fortnite videos and leaks is their jobs but you don’t have to be in a hole about it like damn🙏🙏
@@Allhellwillsing I wasn't trying to I'm sorry if i came off like that
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Seeing people who are likely grown argue over a PUBG ripoff is honestly depressing imo🙁
As someone who followed the whole thing from the jump and have parents who’s first language is not English, I knew exactly what he meant. I can see why but it was obviously miscommunication.
"Waaaaa waaaaa its not about the story" live events ≠ story
I always find it ironic people say epic is moving away from the games base origin and it’s losing its identity with the lack of story. It’s just funny as save the world is the true soul of fortnite and all being the original.
Just goes to show the fortnite community just cant get along and respect opinions
Bro ngl I hate klarque or whatever gaming he’s annoying, acts like a child, and is just a overall just a sad person. But I honestly just don’t care about this drama
klarque fell off so hard
@@JumpsuitC0verM3the fact that he’s supporting someone who has disrespected juice because he died is disguising
@@Micahluvsnullthat’s definitely not the reason, you should actually read the tweets.
@Quintapion and you should actually look at the VOD clips people have of Klarque and Jojosaiah making fun of Juice's death.
@@BreyYt THEY DID WHAT!?
I'm just sick of older Fortnite fans sobbing that the game doesn't care about them anymore. Like, Jesus Christ, look at the rushed early development of BR and seriously tell me that they should've kept whatever rushed story they cobbled together
For the storyline, I would like it to go back so it can be wrapped up and loose ends tied.
1:10 gummy elephant
i honestly used to be really invested in the story, and while i dont think every event needs to be the foundation trying to stop batman from eating a shard of the zero point, i feel that if there was proper closure to many of the MAJOR plot points like the seven and the io, it would be fine, but instead of even trying to maybe incorporate SOMEwhere, or trying to shut down the old storyline for the new, they just constantly add more and more.
“All this drama yet I still have to go to work tomorrow” - Greg heffly
Also this season is supposed to be a break from the story
I kinda agree with scyan but the game is free for fucks sake. Just be grateful you get so much content without dropping a single penny.
As a lore fan of the game, I do agree that Scyan is overacting too much. Honestly, he gives the lore asecpt of the community a bad rap. Don't get me wrong, I do understand why he is upset given the state of the lore, but at the end of the day, I do know that Fortnite can't just soloy focus on the lore. And that's fine.
Me at least, I'm just glad with the lore that is given. Gives me more stuff to headcanon.
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
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i personally am all for the old storyline to be reinstated cuz i grew up with it, i loved it and followed along with it through the years, but to straight up cause a whole Drama over a story is nuts in my opinion, you can be as passionate as you want about something but when it causes issues with people around you i think you got a problem honestly.
Plus the whole Juice Wrld thing was so out of line, i could see from his POV what it could look like but like its a Tribute, deal with it like bruh 🤦♂
This cartoon thing you do in your videos is the best😂😂😂😂,I’m dying rn😂😂😂
The drama about Battle Pass exclusivity should never stop until we get old Passes back.
Let it rest
They already stated it
This debate should've died down
I kinda want Peely though
@@Buzz.co2 I do understand that, but he already has a ton of reskins
@@alonk-demonetized AIM skin or The Visitor never got reskins.
Basically from what i understand scyan was expressing his opinion about how he didn't like the event and i get people are annoyed by that but you dont have to start a beef over it you can mabye say ur opinion and agree to disagree and move on.
Scyan is right. They are using juice wrld for profit. If epic actually cared about juice wrld the event would be solely focused on him. They are using him like a character and not treating him like a human being who sadly passed too soon.
The destiny 10 hour video has nothing on the 12HOUR COD ZOMBIES STORYLINE EXPLANED VIDEO
The storyline has always been the magic that has been kept me playing, seeing epic completely shaft the storyline for all of chapter 4 and then follow up with one of the worst stories I have ever seen in my life is just sad and made me stop playing for most of chapter 4 and chapter 5. it is completely understandable how Sycan is acting to me, I feel like he shouldn't be whining about it as much as he is, but he's coming from a place that I understand. Epic forgot that the storyline gives people like him a reason to come back to the game every week to listen to the storyline and watch the build up to a season ending event that everyone comes together to watch, we don't have that anymore because nobody cares, there's barely any story in the game, the live events barely relate to the story of the seasons, and they're now sidelining the storyline for more metaverse slop.
I'm looking forward to the finale event, but from the teasers I've seen, it isn't even finished right now and we are 2 days away from the event, I feel like they're going to do the bare minimum like The Big Bang, but if not I'll gladly watch the event.
Ok this will probably Be a long take but i have to say this personaly
i kinda agree with Scyan, because with the Snoop Dog Concert i thought to myself why isn't this in Party Royale, (I know nobody plays this mode) but i still find it weird, that it's the same premise of looking at a screen and it wasn't used in a mode that was made for it. i know this part will be pretty hard to pull of but i think every mode should have it's own things (Real concerts) like the Travis scoot one should be in Fortnite Festival because music artist have to do with music and not Battle Royale, and (Real life concerts) Like the Snoop Dog one should be in Party Royale so you know..... people will maybe start getting comfortable with the Metaverse. Like i don't understand how Epic thinks that not updating a gamemode will lead to success.
As much as I love Fortnite’s story sycan has really bad theories and he is in the wrong in this situation
Looking at you the 5 realities theory
@ I only saw one theory and said this is bs can I know more about the 5 realities theory
@@Coolers_1there are five realities that the Zero Point pulls from (Medieval, jungle, japan (futuristic), greek, and ice world) when getting loopers and POIs. Doesn’t make much sense since there is also a Marvel and DC reality bare minimum. But in all reality the reason is those five are easy for a audience to understand so those are what Epic pulls from for characters and POIs
@@vesi7993 yeah that’s bs
Community was right and Ik im never with community but this time it’s actually right
The thing about it i.m with the leakers saying your not being fortnite because of a fortnite event is weird
I couldn’t care less I prefer the game where I can play as goku doing the griddy
Its mainly klarque and his buddies, but they're moments where its someone else
My personal thoughts are,
I agree, CH2 Remix was a little confused in it's identity, is it CH2 or is it Rappers?
I would have preferred if it's focused on the Rappers.
Maybe it is a bit Ad-y but these artists were still probably wanting to contribute to this tribute to Juice WRLD, who was a fortnite player and a member of our community.
I think it's perfectly VALID for someone to go "Naw, this isn't for me" or feel it undermines the story. If he doesn't want to play Fortnite for a season, then that's Scyan's right. Hell, aside from quickly doing the BP, I mostly skipped CH5S4 because I was tired of Marvel and The Wanderer turning out to be Dr. Doom just killed my investment. But that's just me personally.
But what I don't agree with is how Scyan was using Donald Mustard's name to establish a moral grounds. Chances are Donald Mustard either doesn't care or he's completely fine with it, even before Donald Mustard's departure from being the lead creative direction he was still very much involved with the promotional collab stuff in Fortnite, even going as far as having them involved with the story. If he isn't let him speak for himself, don't act like Donald Mustard's knight, because what it comes off to me is like "If you support this, you are against Donald Mustard!"
No one would care about the story if the event made sense.
Nothing about rappers has to do with spy’s.
Fortnight is using chapter 2 to click bait a rapper tribute.
I have no clue or care about juice world. And its super annoying.
RAPER?! My guy, do you know what is r*pe?
JESSE!!! THATS NOT HOW YOU SPELL RAPPER, JESSE!!!!!!
Rappers has 2 p's buddy 😬
@ lmao thanks for the heads up! 😂
I’m on phone and it auto fill or corrected whatever you call it.
@ thanks for the heads up
imo people should just be grateful we're getting seasonal events, fortnite works hard on them plus in chapter 4 the only event we got was the big bang
2:48 y'all do realize he's correct
My thanksgiving was peak
It kind of feels weird of an argument, honestly
I do think Scyan was being a little annoying about all this, and he definitely put his foot in his mouth with how he worded his tweet about the Juice WRLD tribute. All that said, I do also think Hypex and Shiina escalated the whole thing unnecessarily and I don't get why they were so mad at him specifically. I'm not totally up to date with everything the two of them get up to, but they always seemed like pretty level headed and reasonable people to me, Hypex especially. So it just seems really weird to me that they'd go so hard after a smaller figure in the community like that. It almost came off like they had beef with him already and this was just the inciting incident that made them lose it, but that's baseless speculation. Honestly I felt bad for Scyan coming out of it even though I did find him pretty off-putting at first. I think everyone involved can take this as a learning experience, and I hope that they do.
I think it’s important to say that this video forgot about a specific tweet that was particularly disrespectful where scyan said “Honor your own game first Then honor someone else in a season that is not end of a chapter." It’s not really something yiu should say about a guy who played a part in the success of Fortnite.
@@DPHAngelPookzjuice didn’t contribute anything until recently???
@@Quintapion That whole SoundCloud era of rap heavily advertised the game because all of the rappers were playing it and the montages that came from their music.
@@DPHAngelPookz You’re 100% right, using the dead guy for profit and player count did work. I retract my comment.
I gained atleast 2 pounds today those potatoes were insane af🔥
4:35 tf did that car do??
Surprised he didn't say time to unalive myself
they reset the story because donald mustard quit and we got a new cco..
Idgaf about this drama anymore
I love how people think its scyans fault for all of this but he already moved on
And to think I looked up to all of these guys
It feels like all these guys need to tone it down, just a little bit
2:38
he was kinda cooking here tbh.......
partially because it sounds like an allusion to the big bang (but it most likely wasn't lol)
These intros just keep getting better my man 😂
I don't care about drama about twitter I'm just waiting for new season
Subbed for sonic
This is so sad, I can't believe Theodore Maurice Hedgehog, also known as Sonny Hedgehog but commonly known as "Sonic T. Hedgehog" killed himself. 1 sub to excetraz = 1 prayer
idk man I'm tired
Creating whatever ourselves wouldn't make it official. Redoing live events isn't an official thing, thus not canon. I can't create something that retells the original story and continue it myself without some sort of consequence from Epic. Maybe a close copy?
Klarque never had a good relationship with leakers ever since the…..cardboard box incident….(*distant monkey noises*)
I have a lot of thoughts I just wanna jot down.
The juice world thing is kinda strange cause they are still charging for his second skin. They are still profiting off this “good deed”.
The collab thing is just really sad. Epics ultra-capitalist mindset is so depressing nowadays. They can’t even rely on, and let this sink in, AN OLD LOVED CONCEPT THATS NOT SOMETHING NEW/CREATIVE without shoving in collbas. This game is so sad because so much of it is a billboard. Fortnite isn’t original because that doesn’t make money.
The story has never been fantastic. People praise it when it hasn’t been hot shit ever. The only cohesive and logical plot we got was ch2.s7-ch3.s2 (ignoring natural disaster type events). The story is now just a justification for colllabs but they have stopped doing even that now.
Fortnite is a shell of its formal self and I still love the game but not the immense amount of stupid collabs.
I love to see creativity and looking at Fortnite you aren’t seeing as much.
I understand Klint wanting to defend a friend, but he had disrespected JuiceWRLD on his own.
I think Scyan forget that not every thing in Fortnite should be story related, and sometime is good old fun, and the season is just for a months, so we would go back storytelling again in CH6S1, because if he want to criticize the event, he should have worded it better than “honor your game first, then honor someone else in a season that is not end of a chapter”, because that wording is disrespectful, considering that Juice WRLD always been a Fortnite fans, and this is how some Fortnite content creator say about it, but hey, Scyan is the same guy that say CH3 is inspired by of all things, WW2, and Klarque, well, not to much to say, other than the fact he keep on trying to keep gatekeeping old BP, and analogous it to a real physical products, even though this are digital object, and can be producible at high rate, and really, this drama wouldn’t have happened if Scyan shut about it, and take a break from storyline for a while
RIP to juice.
whos the juice?
I mean to be honest Scyan didnt even have to express his opinion on the prelude and like could've just kept it to himself and He didnt have to reply to HYPEX.
I don't understand why they're fighting over it.
Mustard left Epic because they decided the storyline isn't important enough and started moving all talents towar the money printing objective: "The Metaverse".
I loved the storyline, it made the game unique, but it's clear that Epic lost that passion about it and we should too.
Fortnite players when epic tries something new 😡 also Fortnite players when the new season isn’t og😡
That’s just stupid to fight over his opinion. A lot of people didn’t care for this season. I was happy it was only a month and just played for the battle pass.
How did I miss this?
Bro ain’t no way he switched the Minigun for a sniper
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Happy thanksgiving you to man