Marriage and Career || The MA Podcast || feat. Dr Asiya Madni

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  • Marriage and Career || The MA Podcast || feat. Dr Asiya Madni
    Timecodes:
    0:00 - Intro
    1:41 - Topic
    3:16 - How much is the western concept of working woman alligned with Islam?
    6:30 - Considerations of career for women.
    10:12 - Where did it go wrong?
    15:00 - Consequences of delaying family.
    18:50 - Criteria of happiness.
    21:00 - Setting wierd expectations before marriage.
    25:40 - Having children and the longevity of relationships.
    27:40 - Cultural history of the western world.
    28:57 - What are the best professions for women?
    33:25 - Guidelines to be followed in co-working places.
    38:10 - Early marriage concept.
    43:25 - Knowing the Islamic rulings clearly.
    46:30 - Summary: issues, consequences, and solutions.
    51:50 - Final advice.
    54:30 - Outro
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  • @Meenosdiary007
    @Meenosdiary007 Рік тому +115

    Literally she said correct.. Only 1hour of quran lecture always remind us our limits.. Alhamdulillah

    • @taxilamedia
      @taxilamedia Рік тому

      jee

    • @Roseate_Muslimah
      @Roseate_Muslimah Рік тому

      A sincere reminder
      Do you know the Dua taught by Allah SWT?
      If not You can search "The Divine Dua" on search bar

  • @yousafmunir2232
    @yousafmunir2232 Рік тому +178

    Sir I want do job just to show that religion can be followed while working anywhere. I do shirai parda Alhamdulillah while I study in university and many girls learned a lot from me Alhamdulillah and one more girl also started parda Alhamdulillah. I think religious people should be in every field of life.

  • @mohammedabrar4116
    @mohammedabrar4116 Рік тому +32

    Allah tells us in the Quran,
    "Call upon me I will respond you" (40:60).
    So what makes you think He's not listening to you?
    He heard you before the words even came out of your mouth. That is the beauty of Allah, we dont even have to say anything and He already knows, what is in our heart. ALHAMDULILLAH.

  • @nabihasahel7543
    @nabihasahel7543 Рік тому +54

    She is icon for muslims women's .she always appreciates the women to manage both the things ,duniya n akhirat n the md Ali sir he is one of the ever greatest motivator pychologist through his topics , words we have change a lot .
    Which words which the have used in this podcast are absolute ..👍👍👍

    • @taxilamedia
      @taxilamedia Рік тому +1

      خاص طور پر پڑھی لکھی اور جاب کرنے والی خواتین کو بہت اچھا گایؑڈ کیا ھے

    • @Roseate_Muslimah
      @Roseate_Muslimah Рік тому

      A sincere reminder
      Do you know the Dua taught by Allah SWT?
      If not You can search "The Divine Dua" on search bar

  • @cal_me_gulldozer
    @cal_me_gulldozer Рік тому +12

    I really liked how ama asiya put hijab first in the order of obligations for women in islam and then the family before diving into practical career because i feel like many sisters nowadays consider hijab as a choice inatead of obligation and prefer not to do so. Later unfortunately, they end up in dire consequences😔.

  • @zk9961
    @zk9961 Рік тому +21

    Not wanting a child in the first two years of marriage makes sense - as what if there is something fundamentally wrong with the guy? All those women who have stayed with their abusive husbands because of their kids.. they would have had a choice had there be no children..

    • @mariamikram1959
      @mariamikram1959 Рік тому +2

      Yesss yesssss yesssssss

    • @erumbatool7690
      @erumbatool7690 Рік тому +1

      Yess

    • @razamughal9095
      @razamughal9095 Рік тому

      NO THEY WOULD NOT. If a woman today is a ‘doh taqy ki aurat’ its her own fault, as a result of being raised by a hindu mother. Even if she had no kids, no man marries a divorcee because women have prevented their husbands from marrying more than one woman.

    • @mariamikram1959
      @mariamikram1959 Рік тому

      @@razamughal9095 WHAT??

    • @razamughal9095
      @razamughal9095 Рік тому +2

      @@mariamikram1959 answer the point, OH WAIT…….. YOU CAN’T 🙄

  • @tayyabailyas9567
    @tayyabailyas9567 Рік тому +11

    Shadi ko itna ganda kr diya hai society ny k aj ki generation confused hai k shadi krni b chahiye k ni....

  • @shaikh423
    @shaikh423 Рік тому +9

    وَإِذَا قُرِئَ ٱلْقُرْءَانُ فَٱسْتَمِعُوا۟ لَهُۥ وَأَنصِتُوا۟ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ ٢٠٤
    When the Quran is recited, listen to it attentively and be silent, so you may be shown mercy.

  • @tahreemshahid1865
    @tahreemshahid1865 Рік тому +12

    Literally everytime i listen to mam ,it has never happened kay koi practical point na seekha ho ..SHE IS SOOO PRACTICAL ماشاءاللہ ❤️

  • @SairaSabir1443AH
    @SairaSabir1443AH Рік тому +4

    @30:55 Dr.Israar Ahmed mentioned about exclusive female oriented institutes, under 5-10 years children , exclusive hospitals Run by Female consultants and female staff only.

  • @nadiaqasim2586
    @nadiaqasim2586 Рік тому +4

    This topic is the need of the times....girls are confused between career and marriage

  • @amerathahasin6040
    @amerathahasin6040 Рік тому +6

    Kindly do a podcast for divorced women who have developed trust issues and disapproval to get into marriage for a 2nd or 3rd time

  • @shahriyarhasan1856
    @shahriyarhasan1856 Рік тому +7

    39:22 wonderful think. I am also the same mind set. Early marriage is good. I want to do that. If Allah wills.

  • @anafashraf3143
    @anafashraf3143 Рік тому +4

    Muhammad Ali always comes with a topic that society is in dire need.
    🙌💝

  • @engalipak
    @engalipak Рік тому +8

    We middle and upper middle class men and their families ALWAYS seek "matching level status" of girls in marriages. For example humaray level hi ka rishta ho both financially and family culture. This desi attitude is wrecking havok for men and their confidence. We middle class men dnt look downwards and marry a pious but poor background girl. Millions of financially poor background pious girls are available for marriage BUT our BETA men keep staying passive and on back foot and keep waiting for the cultural flow to decide their life partner. Get brave...take some tawakal based risk..marry a girl lower than your status...make marriage easy...stop being a passive beta and work towards being an ALPHA male.

    • @areejshams3253
      @areejshams3253 Рік тому

      It is easier for a man to cover his wife's expenses and become an authority over her if she is from a lower status than a man. The financial or social status of a woman should not be considered in Islam. The woman is not going to bring any social class or financial benefit to a man. The man is responsible for providing and maintaining his wife. Why a woman's financial and social class status is considered? Spending ki tu sari responsibility mard pr hai aur yehi ghairatmand baat hai mard kay liaye.

  • @rbiafatima7464
    @rbiafatima7464 Рік тому +12

    Great session indeed. But here is a point to ponder for women like me who are crossing their 20's. All my life i worked reaaally reaaally hard for my medical profession.. And honestly the proposals i got were only interested in my salary+looks.. Although their sons were equal in qualification.. But i never know their personal and private life.. Except one thing that they offer salah regularly according to their moms. I want to speak my heart that i m afraid of marriage... I m afraid that i will b responsible for alot of things.. I can't cook..can't do cleaning.. Washing... Because i m always busy in studying.. And after 24 hrs duty i can't find any energy to even talk to people.i literally dnt know what to do except k bs shadi kr ln jis c b parents kahen r us k bad jo ho ga vo main bhugatny ke koshish m kabi b internal happiness r peace c zindagi na guzar skun. Islam makes marriage easy when it says that daughter in law is not responsible for in laws... The son is... He should b providing all kind of services to his family. But our society never understands this. This is making marriages tough for girls. I saw so many colleagues who are depressed after getting married.

    • @shaibanreza8054
      @shaibanreza8054 Рік тому +2

      Rabia don't take tension regarding that just connect to ALLAH S.W.T he will do every thing fine and some one will come who would understand the things.

    • @rbiafatima7464
      @rbiafatima7464 Рік тому +2

      @@shaibanreza8054 thanks. In Sha Allah

    • @mansooriqbal5254
      @mansooriqbal5254 Рік тому +1

      Don’t marry until you are ready.
      Don’t marry for money.
      Marry someone older Mid 30s or later. He would have maturity. Though age doesn’t guaranty maturity, but you have a chan

    • @rbiafatima7464
      @rbiafatima7464 Рік тому

      @@mansooriqbal5254 thanks for ur suggestion and kind words.

    • @aysha.s2566
      @aysha.s2566 Рік тому

      Don't stay with in laws. Marry someone who's ready to give you a separate house. And why are you worrying about household chores? You earn money ryt? You can hire a maid for that and you can learn the household work gradually after your marriage. And another thing is don't ever let anyone to force you to work. Make it clear before marriage that it's a man's responsibility to provide, I'll work only if I want to, I'm not taking the responsibility of running the house. Islam has given all the rights to women, claim your rights.

  • @samraafzal843
    @samraafzal843 Рік тому +2

    And how beautifully she rise her kids which become Mugeerah luqman.... masallah masallah ❤️❤️❤️

  • @bismillahshaikh4379
    @bismillahshaikh4379 Рік тому +13

    Today's parents doesn't understand our understanding difficulties and thoughts which is come in our mind and unfortunately they try to impose bad or good things on us in a bad way which makes us rebellious reactive and mistaken.....
    You people doing great job nd yes your thoughts, openion and the problems and solutions which you adress really connect to youth to us....
    Allah protect nd guide you and give you more power to adress such things❤️

  • @sabaaltaf2521
    @sabaaltaf2521 Рік тому +8

    Before listening to this podcast I want to do Mphil from Abroad country.But now I feel the real protector of a girl has its father and brother. So Allah gives us hadia for becoming beneficial for our family and then choose carrier. And Allah give us haya.

    • @Roseate_Muslimah
      @Roseate_Muslimah Рік тому

      A sincere reminder
      Do you know the Dua taught by Allah SWT?
      If not You can search "The Divine Dua" on search bar

  • @zk9961
    @zk9961 Рік тому +10

    One of the most beautiful thing in this lecture, among many, is the thing aunty said: i reviewed my thinking.. subhan Allah.. this is so amazing as its okay to be wrong and correct yourself

  • @shahriyarhasan1856
    @shahriyarhasan1856 Рік тому +18

    This Podcast is really beneficial to all the youth and the parents. Because our parents have to understand what is the benefits of Early marriage. It'll work Isha'Allah.

  • @moonhasan01
    @moonhasan01 Рік тому +4

    Wonderful words indeed ....I was swinging in this dilemma what to do coz I m an educated woman but giving full time to my family only so I was feeling frustrated by sitting at home but today listening to ur wise advise I hav come to the solution that family comes first then every other thing comes after .....JazakAllah ...plz bring such podcasts more n more

    • @aysha.s2566
      @aysha.s2566 Рік тому

      Woh toh bohot badi problem hai..Isi liye acchi tarah investigate karke shaadi karni chahiye. Deendaar banda kabhi aisi baat nahi kahega.

  • @mehakemman1992
    @mehakemman1992 Рік тому +5

    Plz pray for me.... I need suporting husbnd and i m engaged but that man has too much non muslim thoughts and there fore i do not want to marry him.... pray for me that Allah give him hadayat

  • @tehreemfarrukh5695
    @tehreemfarrukh5695 Рік тому +2

    One thing I would like to add which is missed in the discussion ke why these days girls are delaying babies is not career but in the start of marriage when you realized that this relationship won't go long then the sufferer one is the girl and the baby mard toe mazay se dosri shadi Kar leta ha and apnay baby KO maintain bhi Nahin karta

  • @arshiyapathan8128
    @arshiyapathan8128 Рік тому +9

    MashaAllah very nice. When I was young I used to think marriage as enforcement on woman . I always thought I would marry when I'm totally mature but as gaining knowledge and learning different perspective of our Deen I now think it would be better if i would have been married in my younger age. May Allah guide us to follow Deen and understand.

  • @goodthink6184
    @goodthink6184 Рік тому +9

    *اللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلَى آلِ مُحَمَّدٍ كَمَا صَلَّيْتَ عَلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَعَلَى آلِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ إِنَّكَ حَمِيدٌ مَجِيدٌ اللَّهُمَّ بَارِكْ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلَى آلِ مُحَمَّدٍ كَمَا بَارَكْتَ عَلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَعَلَى آلِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ إِنَّكَ حَمِيدٌ مَجِيد*

  • @maimoonaiqbal295
    @maimoonaiqbal295 7 місяців тому +1

    The best things I like about.that vdo is with out aid and Any disturbance... 39:16
    Alhamdulillah

  • @bushraurooj6349
    @bushraurooj6349 Рік тому

    jazakALLAH u khair.....
    much much more needed podcast !!!

  • @tahreemshahid1865
    @tahreemshahid1865 Рік тому

    May Allah bless sir Ali as well to highlight such issues and identifying right person to answer relevant questions

  • @mohd.ashraf9348
    @mohd.ashraf9348 Рік тому +1

    Mashallah very motive and graceful byan for the younger community...
    May Allah bless both of you with respect and dua

  • @user-yr2wn5mh3f
    @user-yr2wn5mh3f Рік тому +1

    Lots of dua and respect to Asiya Maim... You are truly a inspiration for younger generations.

  • @sherali3947
    @sherali3947 Рік тому +2

    Jazakallah khair to you both
    Mashallah so so beneficial & much needed podcast

  • @nidakhan9664
    @nidakhan9664 Рік тому +5

    I regret i would have listen this video when i was in my teenage.Its very informative.

    • @khaan3278
      @khaan3278 Рік тому

      Don't regret you are a blessed soul.
      A believer would submit his her will to the will of the Almighty Allah.
      Everything will be good and better.
      Keep swimming and 🐠

  • @fahadsarwar2978
    @fahadsarwar2978 Рік тому +2

    Thankyou for talking on this topic, May ALLAH protect us and sisters.
    Ameen

  • @hamnashahzadi3887
    @hamnashahzadi3887 Рік тому

    Allah bless her and her family really inspiring women .

  • @ShoaibAwan720
    @ShoaibAwan720 Рік тому +2

    آپ جیسے قابل لوگ ہمارے لیے سرمایہ ہیں

  • @sabakhanum9871
    @sabakhanum9871 Рік тому +1

    Ma'am concluded very accurately.
    Jazak Allahu khair

  • @beinglogical6108
    @beinglogical6108 Рік тому

    Productive and important.

  • @Curious_Muslimah
    @Curious_Muslimah Рік тому +1

    We need more talkshow like this with respected dr Asia and Mohammad Ali sir❤️

  • @aqsaahmed2389
    @aqsaahmed2389 Рік тому +4

    MashaAllah!!! Much needed!! Thanks mam and sir!! My mind and heart is at peace after listening to your podcast....Allah ka shukar !

  • @sumeraarshad7146
    @sumeraarshad7146 Рік тому +2

    Very best talk. ..
    Jazak Allah.
    I wish there r more discussion and talk about this topic for give awareness to our youth.

  • @ymujawar4368
    @ymujawar4368 8 місяців тому

    JazakALLAHA KHAIR both of you

  • @masoom6329
    @masoom6329 Рік тому +4

    Maa sha Allah. Muhammad ali bhai always brings wonderful content especially for youth.

  • @daniyalahmad9324
    @daniyalahmad9324 Рік тому

    Very informative session. May Allah bless you more

  • @mahwishqureshi4459
    @mahwishqureshi4459 Рік тому +1

    V. Important n much needed discussion for the youth..Jazakallah

  • @Dreamer-ou5qo
    @Dreamer-ou5qo Рік тому

    jazakAllah khair sir 🍃
    Very beneficial session 💯🙌🏻

  • @shaziasiddiqui2481
    @shaziasiddiqui2481 Рік тому +2

    This podcast is really needed.. jazakallahu khair Ali bhai

  • @WakeUpCall93
    @WakeUpCall93 Рік тому +1

    Ali bhai Jazak-Allah...
    i wish every patent every couple everyone listen this podcast ❤️

  • @aaishakhatoon9967
    @aaishakhatoon9967 Рік тому +1

    MashaAllah beautiful discussion...

  • @abdulaleemkazi4120
    @abdulaleemkazi4120 Рік тому +1

    Really great and trusted advised...

  • @amaraumar7654
    @amaraumar7654 Рік тому +5

    All podcasts are very helpful ALHAMDOLILLAH especially with mam ASIYA it really eliminate confusion I'm so grateful to both of you to have such fruitful podcasts... I definitely want to join youth club as well.. جزاک اللہ

  • @javeria899
    @javeria899 Рік тому +2

    MashaAllah Muhammed Ali bhai you know everything about what's going in youth👍🏻👍🏻
    Dr Asiya madni is so much influential and also the best role model for every girl!

  • @know_it_all_
    @know_it_all_ Рік тому

    love your podcast .... thanks for talking on seriousyouth issues

  • @emanboosting352
    @emanboosting352 Рік тому

    Jazakallahu khairan ✨
    Very beneficial session 😍

  • @Sania_shah00
    @Sania_shah00 Рік тому

    MashaAllah such a fruitful podcast, may Allah bless you guys and make us follow the right path ameen sum ameen 🤲

  • @sanobarnaazpathan9163
    @sanobarnaazpathan9163 Рік тому +1

    Mashaallah very inspiring discussion thank you...Dr aasiya mam ... mohmmad Ali sir .....thanks 👍❤️

  • @nidaansari5102
    @nidaansari5102 9 місяців тому

    Wonderful, useful , practical talks

  • @tayyabashahid4717
    @tayyabashahid4717 Рік тому +1

    Thanku so much both of you for such an amazing counselling for both girls and boys I really learned a lot form your precious words and experiences it's really refresh my soul and mind . We need more counselling sir and Mam again huge respect both of you
    JazakAllah

  • @shazianazar3307
    @shazianazar3307 Рік тому

    great discussion

  • @artistbyprofession
    @artistbyprofession Рік тому

    MashaAllah...beautiful discussion ❤️

  • @SarahKhurram
    @SarahKhurram Рік тому +1

    JazakaAllah khair

  • @zuhaalkareem1709
    @zuhaalkareem1709 Рік тому +1

    Great to hear Maam Asia

  • @nusratkhatik7528
    @nusratkhatik7528 Рік тому

    Masha Allah very good inspiring
    Ali bhai dua ki drkhwast

  • @syedinayat1202
    @syedinayat1202 Рік тому +2

    Very fruitful discussion and I hope whatever they discussed influences us and reminds us that we have to be answerable there.
    May Almighty Allah shower his blessing upon all of us.

  • @haleema798
    @haleema798 Рік тому

    Jazak Allahu Khayran

  • @primrosedesigns9380
    @primrosedesigns9380 Рік тому

    Amazing video. Very well explained.

  • @malikadilabbas4089
    @malikadilabbas4089 Рік тому

    MashAllah great discussion on a very important topic

  • @humarehman8295
    @humarehman8295 Рік тому

    Ma sha Allah very informative

  • @sumanfarhan2125
    @sumanfarhan2125 Рік тому

    Thank u so much... itne ache podcast krne k lye or last ke crux tw💫

  • @UmmeHabiba-jt2qr
    @UmmeHabiba-jt2qr Рік тому +1

    Ali bhai u r my inspiration. And MashaAllah both of yours conversation is very much productive fou today's youth.

  • @wertyjeftsykip6843
    @wertyjeftsykip6843 Рік тому

    Mashallah amazing lecture

  • @highermathematics-bx4mi
    @highermathematics-bx4mi 6 місяців тому

    Great podcast very much benificial for me
    Allah bless you ameen

  • @mn..7344
    @mn..7344 Рік тому

    JazakumuLLAHU khareen kaseera

  • @maazadnan9087
    @maazadnan9087 Рік тому

    Wonderful productive discussion

  • @azkaiman1058
    @azkaiman1058 Рік тому

    A much needed podcast indeed .

  • @bismamubeen1247
    @bismamubeen1247 Рік тому +11

    This lecture is something that is needed. I was confused regarding my career choice. But after listening to this podcast, at least I got on the right path.
    Jazakallah
    May Allah bless you all
    ☺️😊

  • @rishiraaj.580
    @rishiraaj.580 11 місяців тому +2

    No Matter How Much U Talk.
    There Is No Substitute To Money. Be Practical. 👍

  • @saimakazi1265
    @saimakazi1265 Рік тому

    much Satisfied conversation

  • @saniyasaher8213
    @saniyasaher8213 4 місяці тому

    MaShaAllah accha podcast hai. Allah kare isse sbko fayeda ho

  • @naziyakhan3166
    @naziyakhan3166 Рік тому

    I m totally agree mam really badi khushi hui aapse woh sun kar jo main bahut salon se soch rhi hu

  • @ajqueen305
    @ajqueen305 5 місяців тому +1

    the reason why a lot of women delay kids is because they want to get stuck in a relationship because of kids. being able to have kids is something not in a woman's hand. in the last generation, a lot of mothers were stuck in a marriage because they had kids. so many women's lives struggled and couldn't get married again because a man can get married easily the second time but it is a different case for women.
    the reason why a lot of women are career-oriented is because after three to four years most men start taunting and belittle their wives if they ask for money. even though it is his job to provide for her and their kids. most women are tired of begging for money.
    if women shouldn't go to medical fields then how would we women get treated?
    you are right about quality time.

  • @knwstore5866
    @knwstore5866 Рік тому

    Jazakallah khair bhai for this session ❤️India

  • @mahadraza4377
    @mahadraza4377 Рік тому

    Allahhumma barik
    Ma sha ALLAH always enjoyed
    And glas to hear she is Brother Mugheerah's Mutter
    ALLAH pak let all of us to be on the straight path!

  • @FizaKhan-kp7yd
    @FizaKhan-kp7yd Рік тому

    This conversation was much needed

  • @rummaankhurshid7625
    @rummaankhurshid7625 Рік тому

    A wonderful session ♥️

  • @umqrr
    @umqrr 7 місяців тому

    Very grateful to have her as my Islamic teacher

  • @nouman12h77
    @nouman12h77 Місяць тому

    MashaALLAH ❤️ very impressive and learning podcast, ALLAH BLESS YOU BOTH OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY

  • @haleema798
    @haleema798 Рік тому +2

    يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا قُوا أَنفُسَكُمْ وَأَهْلِيكُمْ نَارًا وَقُودُهَا النَّاسُ وَالْحِجَارَةُ...
    “O people of faith! Save yourselves and your families from the Fire whose fuel is humans and stones.”

  • @nackhussain9858
    @nackhussain9858 Рік тому +2

    I need someone in my life.. Who will care about my deen🕋❣️

  • @saimakazi1265
    @saimakazi1265 Рік тому +1

    Very good conversation

  • @muhammadsanawar5477
    @muhammadsanawar5477 Рік тому

    The Best Opinion....well Explained ❤️

  • @faizaahmad8696
    @faizaahmad8696 Рік тому +13

    Mashallah beautiful discussion once again .. really thankful tht Allah has introduced me to such wonderful ppl in this world thru youth club.. May Allah give u all jaza e khair… n give us all nek hidayat ameen

    • @LEARNENGLISH22783
      @LEARNENGLISH22783 Рік тому

      ALLAH, SubhanALLAH, MashALLAH, InshALLAH and JazakALLAH are written in capital.

  • @Bint-e-Hawa123
    @Bint-e-Hawa123 Рік тому

    Ma Sha Allah v.informative💫

  • @AsaanZindagiwithBiyaKhan
    @AsaanZindagiwithBiyaKhan Рік тому +1

    Asalam o Alaikum , another motivational and inspiring video . Islaah hojaati hai . Alhamdulilah .
    Jumaaah Mubarak .

  • @artvyoutube
    @artvyoutube Рік тому +1

    JazakALLAH khair for the wonderful podcast. I wish I could contribute or add something in podcast there are much to share regarding youth, parents and expected issues in future.

  • @seherkhan1951
    @seherkhan1951 Рік тому

    Very useful video MashaAllah

  • @fizayaqoobfiza3429
    @fizayaqoobfiza3429 Рік тому +1

    Ap ki vedios se bht hope milti bhai 🤲🏼♥️

  • @007nczsameerasaleem6
    @007nczsameerasaleem6 Рік тому

    I like the way u guyz discuss real time discussions well-done aunty accurate answers dete hai.

  • @noreenkurd6382
    @noreenkurd6382 Рік тому

    Great

  • @invincibleonline
    @invincibleonline Рік тому

    Nice discussion