DJ another video containing a wealth of information. Thank you! Have you ever considered putting together an online class? Just a masterful wealth of knowledge.
RHEL and its free clones offer support for up to ten years; with Fedora its typically a year although its usually for six months and CENTOS Stream is positioned between them.
actually, real cartification is not a problem as most bodies will be quite happy with a full listing of all the tests as proof of complience. only those that make pay a lot to certify a point release are a problem, and those certificates become invalid the moment you apply an update. in fact parts of the us military use ci/cd based distributions to provide infrastructure as a service with quite high standards baked into the pipeline.
So it has nothing to do with the fact that IBM bought Red Hat before the change and probably considered the free CentOS to be a "loss-maker" as companies using it don't have to pay for RHEL licences?
No, as I said RedHat was working to kill off CentOS in 2018. IBM didnt own RedHat in 2018. Don't take my word for it, watch the RedHat video from 2018.
IMHO Red Hat did a big mistake here. Numerous companies used CentOS as a test bed and development platform (including testing) for software aimed to be deployed on "real" RHEL for production (where Red Hat technical support is available). They were confident that CentOS was 100% identical to RHEL. Now they are very disappointed. I've heard a lot about companies switching to Rocky Linux and quite a lot switching to Debian and/or Ubuntu also...
I haven't been able to find any videos on UA-cam that adequately describe the differences between Red hat and Debian such that I can understand why they're such a big divide between the two. Clearly the package management system is different, but beyond that I'd like to get a more advanced understanding of why those two branches have become so dominant in different areas. I don't really see Debbie and style servers or businesses, although to be Frank all I ever saw was centos anyway. Can you tell me why you're not a fan of the Debian system? Thanks!
@@breakingthemasks It's just the distro, no biggie. The Debian flavor was named after the two that put the packages together: Deb and Ian. I started wit Redhat and am more comfortable with that flavor pack. They're all developed around the same Linux kernel. We don't need package management systems, really. My main use was for a server environment, and remote administration was done through SSH command line (bash). Linux and other Unix-like OS's were never really intended for the home user or a desktop environment, anyway. I "grew up" with MS-DOS. I didn't really get into computers until around 1990. That was more than 30 years ago. I was afraid of Windows and OS/2 and started with MS-DOS and C-64 BASIC and machine language. I still use Windows on my daily driver home PC, and install it on my clients builds. Windows just makes more sense for general purposes at home. For servers, it's Linux. CentOS rocks for web, FTP, and other LAMP configs. I once had a guy at a computer shop tell me it was stupid to put Windows 2000 on a home computer. Bollocks! Until XP came out, it was a great NT version. Still is, but my fav MS version is Windows 7. Win 8 was a disaster, and windows 11 is worse. I still use Windows 10, which is FAIR, but is nothing compared to Windows 2000. Lack of legacy support dictates using a later version of Microsloth Widows. ;) On the MAC side, OSX (pronounced "oh-ess-ten") has similar problems with later versions. I miss my older MacBook Pro. When I do hardware builds, I always make sure they are compatible with Linux AND Windows 10. I stay away from Windows 11 as long as I can. I am a stubborn brat. There are other distro packages like Manjaro et al, but Linux is Linux. Woody, Potato, Sarge, etc., are just codenames for linux versions in the Debian distro. I was just being sarcastic. Sorry.
In fact I really find RHEL's free home use version quite exciting 💪😁
DJ another video containing a wealth of information. Thank you! Have you ever considered putting together an online class? Just a masterful wealth of knowledge.
That was a most helpful guide and explanation. Thank You.
RHEL and its free clones offer support for up to ten years; with Fedora its typically a year although its usually for six months and CENTOS Stream is positioned between them.
CentOS Stream is what other distributions are calling a "rolling release".
I love it....Good CI/CD discussion. 😁
Great video, finally all those OS and releases make sense.
Thanks for this video
Glad it helped Alejandro
actually, real cartification is not a problem as most bodies will be quite happy with a full listing of all the tests as proof of complience. only those that make pay a lot to certify a point release are a problem, and those certificates become invalid the moment you apply an update. in fact parts of the us military use ci/cd based distributions to provide infrastructure as a service with quite high standards baked into the pipeline.
So it has nothing to do with the fact that IBM bought Red Hat before the change and probably considered the free CentOS to be a "loss-maker" as companies using it don't have to pay for RHEL licences?
No, as I said RedHat was working to kill off CentOS in 2018. IBM didnt own RedHat in 2018. Don't take my word for it, watch the RedHat video from 2018.
@@CyberGizmo Oh. Very interesting.
RedHat might have wanted to kill CentOS in 2018, but IBM brought the axe to the party...
Does anybody have the video in question?
@@alexstone691 This, I think? ua-cam.com/video/1JmgOkEznjw/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Sounds like a script of a comedy from the 3 Marx Brothers. Seriously though, good info.
hahah Tony, it does at that
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as an ISV shipping commercial software for RHEL, the old Centos was great. Centos streams is broken, we're stuck on RHEL6 because of it.
the problem is certification. thats what holding back RHEL from developing faster
Exactly
IMHO Red Hat did a big mistake here. Numerous companies used CentOS as a test bed and development platform (including testing) for software aimed to be deployed on "real" RHEL for production (where Red Hat technical support is available). They were confident that CentOS was 100% identical to RHEL. Now they are very disappointed. I've heard a lot about companies switching to Rocky Linux and quite a lot switching to Debian and/or Ubuntu also...
No future with redhat they're doing weird stuff lately I wouldn't risk doing anything with them
Ugh. Back to Debian. That's a woody potato, Sarge!
I haven't been able to find any videos on UA-cam that adequately describe the differences between Red hat and Debian such that I can understand why they're such a big divide between the two. Clearly the package management system is different, but beyond that I'd like to get a more advanced understanding of why those two branches have become so dominant in different areas. I don't really see Debbie and style servers or businesses, although to be Frank all I ever saw was centos anyway.
Can you tell me why you're not a fan of the Debian system?
Thanks!
@@breakingthemasks It's just the distro, no biggie. The Debian flavor was named after the two that put the packages together: Deb and Ian. I started wit Redhat and am more comfortable with that flavor pack. They're all developed around the same Linux kernel. We don't need package management systems, really. My main use was for a server environment, and remote administration was done through SSH command line (bash). Linux and other Unix-like OS's were never really intended for the home user or a desktop environment, anyway. I "grew up" with MS-DOS. I didn't really get into computers until around 1990. That was more than 30 years ago. I was afraid of Windows and OS/2 and started with MS-DOS and C-64 BASIC and machine language. I still use Windows on my daily driver home PC, and install it on my clients builds. Windows just makes more sense for general purposes at home. For servers, it's Linux. CentOS rocks for web, FTP, and other LAMP configs. I once had a guy at a computer shop tell me it was stupid to put Windows 2000 on a home computer. Bollocks! Until XP came out, it was a great NT version. Still is, but my fav MS version is Windows 7. Win 8 was a disaster, and windows 11 is worse. I still use Windows 10, which is FAIR, but is nothing compared to Windows 2000. Lack of legacy support dictates using a later version of Microsloth Widows. ;) On the MAC side, OSX (pronounced "oh-ess-ten") has similar problems with later versions. I miss my older MacBook Pro. When I do hardware builds, I always make sure they are compatible with Linux AND Windows 10. I stay away from Windows 11 as long as I can. I am a stubborn brat. There are other distro packages like Manjaro et al, but Linux is Linux. Woody, Potato, Sarge, etc., are just codenames for linux versions in the Debian distro. I was just being sarcastic. Sorry.