NETFLIX'S SHADOW & BONE | READER VS NON-READER REVIEW
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- John & I discuss and review Netflix's adaptation of Leigh Bardugo's Shadow & Bone!! I've read all the books and John brings the noob POV. What did you think of the show!? I'M SO EXCITED FOR MORE! Pre-Order my new novel ► BETTER TOGETHER read.macmillan...
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“It’s unnatural for someone to be as tall as he is stupid, yet here we are.” -Nina Zenik
im so glad they added that in the show
@@ender4344 me too
It’s “there you stand,” not “here we are”. . . Right?
@@Smitty8888 the quote is actually "it's unnatural for someone to be as stupid as he is tall and yet there you stand," i think so yeah
@@ender4344 i
It would've probably been better off as a 12 episode season, but Netflix only gave them 8 and they did amazing with what they had.
@@anonymouswayfarer8520 Makes sense, they'll probably get more money for next season.
I read something of where they were given a budget of the season instead of per episode so they chose 8 so that they could spend more money per episode
The casting for the Crows was perfect! The actress for Inej literally came straight out of my mind! I did wish we got to see more of Kaz's lockpicking/pitpocketing skills tho... considering it's a huge part of what makes him a good criminal
That and his tactical skills.I thought it was a bit out of character to see him without 58 backup plans he did not tell anyone about.
@@mayallyourbaconburn7133 Honestly my only problem with the show is its writing of Kaz, Kanej and Zoya.
Kaz is not a grumpy cat. He is actually kinda arrogant and cocky. He calls girls love and sweet in the beginning of soc. Here he just hardly had any good dialogues.
And the once he had were super out of character. 'I need you', 'I believe in you', 'no saints watched over me not like you have'. I can't even imagine Kaz saying these corny ass shit. I mean the dialogues are good but they are nothing like something Kaz would say.
Also what was the hurry to establish Kaz and Inej as a potential couple in the very first episode. It was so unnecessary.
@@perfectillusionist320 I agree with the second part but on the first part you said "at the beginning of soc" but we have to remember that this part we're seeing wasn't written anywhere, they don't exactly have source material, and it is before soc, so I believe when we get to their part it will be better
@@anabrito2582But the thing is, just because it's a prequel, doesn't mean it's a good excuse for the writing to be out of character though- especially when Inej and Jesper on the other hand are seemingly well adjusted into their characterization. I mean I get adaptations aren't going to be identical to the books, but I think creating "fanfiction" for the Crows altered their characterization the most (in not a good way), so I'm looking forward to them finally getting to the soc storyline where they'll actually have source material!
@@perfectillusionist320 Yeah, I've heard from some non-readers that Kaz kind of comes across as dull... I think that can be attributed to them not really incorporating his dark humor and cool skills. I adored the actor though, so I let's hope they give him better stuff to work with in the future.
To your second point: Oh gosh, yeah that's true... He can barely even admit his feelings to her at the end of soc, so that bonfire scene was kind of ooc?? Lol. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for the inclusion of the Crows, but damn there are so many tiny things that were ooc for the characters/ships you listed off.
Everyone stan Inej Ghafa the love of my life and best fictional character to ever exist
She's the uncontested best character, no doubt.
@@daltongibson1033 no jasper
TASTE!!!!! TASTE
I can’t wait to see Kaz being more ruthless and harsh! Need to see him gauge an eyeball out haha
Mal couldn’t catch one break, poor guy. There was only one episode where he was fine and for the rest of the series his body was a human sieve.
Lolol human sieve! 🤣
They're trying to make him likable, so he's like a wounded puppy
the reason why it all feels rushed is because at first the show was written for 10 episodes but netflix only gave them the budget for 8, and also that's why the cgi wasn't perfect it the later episodes
But overall the show was very entertaining and the casting was just perfect
John's face when Christine mentions crying at Kaz washing his hands was just golden
The whole stable boy scene I was screaming “THAT IS WYLAN’S MAN! THAT IS WYLAN’S MAN! JESPER STOP, YOU NEED TO MEET YOUR SOULMATE!” Also Christine, what type of Grisha are you?
Let Jesper have his fun! Wylan will come later
They did 8 episodes because they were going to get the same budget for 10 so they decided to do just 8 and use the money to make it better and more realistic
Knife Wife for Life.
Also, Kirigan is a pretty interesting character. He manipulates Alina into trusting him and relying on him, but in the show (I haven't read the books) I don't think he tries to manipulate her into falling for him. He seems genuinely surprised that she kisses him. He wanted to control her for her power, but he finds himself genuinely drawn to her. She's someone who he could actually form a long term (for him) relationship with. He's very jealous of her relationship with Mal. When she realizes his manipulations and turns away from him, he decides to just go ahead and enslave her rather than treat her as an equal. That's very revelatory.
I have no judgement towards those who enjoy Alina's initial steamy romance with Kirigan, but I don't really understand continuing to want them together in the future. He has seriously abused Alina. It's not a relationship that could be called romantic anymore.
Like I hear u totally, but what I have in my brain is a deep need for fanfics where he doesn't turn all ass and they do become an equal forever power couple and she balances his evil. Cuz like through ages of storytelling the story now with this triangle of Darkling evil, Mal good, good over evil is like rly common. But good and evil in a couple balanced forever (or a very long time) and him getting healed instead of hurt and abusive would have been interesting. (and like in the fanfic dreams later on they banish the fold and he's like not as evil cuz she won't let him and he's never evil to her, but like he still wants to be evil and is like more to that side, like she literally balances the scale) It's the fanfic I want and nothing can make me stop wanting it, I wanted it when I first read it in high school. That's how I ship them, like in an alternate universe equal power duo sense.
@@123Saulytea Wait, he's still evil and she's still good, but somehow they are still in a relationship? Evil and good are not like introverted and extroverted. Being in a relationship with a mass murderer is not OK, no matter how nice he might be to YOU. That's crazy.
For me, it sucks EVEN MORE that people liked him and Alina together in the book (I will not say DARKLINA, even if my life depended on it since he deserves to burn in the depths of hell). :) I'm pretty young, but Ms. Leigh OBVIOUSLY wrote his character to be the "master manipulator" type, and it makes sense for some to be initially attracted to that.
But otherwise, all of his decisions towards Alina are pretty calculated and utterly self-serving, and that's illustrated in the show towards the end as well. I WILL admit that they had chemistry (duh), but the Darkling's dumbass managed to catch feelings while trying to take over the world.
ALSO:
MALINA 'TIL I DIE. MAL HAS SOOOO MUCH MORE NUANCE IN THE BOOK THAN PEOPLE KNOW. Please know that this is my personality trait. :)
@@nigeriangranny5321 In books i didn't ship Darklina or Malina
But in show My God Ben Barnes just turned me into Darklina shipper ...
Mal n Alina scenes warms my heart
But Darkling n Alina scenes set me on fire 🔥
(all thanks to Ben Barnes n Jessie )
As someone who hasn’t read the Shadow and Bone trilogy but absolutely loved the Six of Crows duology, I had a ball with the tv show! I almost think that by not having read Shadow and Bine, I could enjoy Alina and Mal’s part of the story more as I didn’t know what would happen and I really enjoyed their relationship (I’ve also heard not great things about the characters in the books). My only complaint is that I would have loved to see more of the Crows, but hopefully we’ll get more next season.
I would say alot people oversell how Mal's character is "bad" in the books when he's not that different. We just dont see his side of the story because the story is in Alina's pov only and she doesnt get his letters so thinks he abandoned her, and he thinks she's ignored his letters and abandoned him for the Darkling and rich people in the palace
@@herz5159 a lot of booktubers are team Mal, Leigh and Jessie is team mal. People were just interpreting Mal's actions in the wrong way plus and yes what you said we only follow alina's pov in the books thats why the show fixed that issue
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Kanej invented eye contact
me nervous laughing at all johns predictions having finished the entire Grisha series
Also DO NOT INSULT Squallers! Zoya will strike you with lightening where you stand
As a non-reader, I agree that they didn’t establish Kaz’s situation with his crane. I didn’t see him limp until a later episode. 😂
He limps in the crow club first episode.
I actually disagree I feel like he was limping the entire season lmao
He was limping the whole season, it was so evident ever since the first episode
even as someone who read SoC it was so busy in the club i could see how you could miss it if you didn’t know about i
me too! I thought he was faking it when he was trying to get the blueprints
As a non reader I LOVE and APPRECIATE that they didnt dump heavy exposition in the beginning. I just hate it when exposition dumps arent done right, it just seem like a lazy way of story telling to me. Shadow and bone did it perfectly; making an audience question the world Engages you and submerges you into making it believable and lived in.
i loved the crows so much AND THE CAST WAS PERFECTION
John’s comment about being a Squaller cracked me up xD I never thought about it like that but it would suck being assigned to the Skiff and just knowing it’s your death.
It is established in the books that you can’t fly over, we actually get a scene with Nikolai attempting to at one point with no success, but I agree that the show makes it look possible. Could just be an issue of scaling though.
John is literally Nikolai with all those ideas about traveling through the fold with hot air balloons
So glad you mentioned the TRUE main character who stole the show and my heart... ✨milo✨
SO EXCITED FOR MY BABY WYLANNNNN
me too
Same! I feel so many people are waiting for Nikolai but I'm way more excited for Wylan. When Kaz said they didn't need a bomb expert, the show was telling book readers Wylan would not be coming.
@@JAAAY62 yea, tbh I’m more excited for Wylan than Nikolai. Even though I’m excited for Nikolai too. And they will be having Wylan if there is a next season. The show runner teased it for their plans on season 2.
I swear Amita came straight out of my mind to play Inej and I know it feels like that for a lot of people. They did an excellent casting!
Christine is literally me when someone even mentions the crows. They are the reason I watched the show. I never read the shadow and bone trilogy and I don't ship Alina with anyone. And Ben Barnes was phenomenal as the darkling
I just realize Baghra is madam Hooch when you said it. I thought her face was familiar somehow too but really can't place her😂
OOOOHHH I thought this WAS Six of crows (been hearing about these for YEARS) when I started watching because of them mentioning crows and when I googled it realized it wasn't, but now that I know this is a prequel I WANT TO READ THEM SO BAD
Ooh yes please read them. The books deserve the hype
John’s boat theories have me dying 🤣🤣🤣
I CHECKED YOUR CHANNEL EVERYDAY WAITING FOR THISSSSSSSS
I second this
YESSS
One of my favourite things was how they did the show don't tell aspect. they didn't give you all the exposition. they let you experience and learn about the world as the story played out. While i have read every one of Leigh's books, my friends who hadn't still loved the show and understood the world and characters. Though one of my friends also asked why they didn't just make a hot air balloon to get over the fold so you're not alone Juan.
Also can we talk about how AMAZING Genya was! She stole every scene she was in. I love her so much!
Stan Nina Zenik for clear skin
Then why do I have acne?
I'm just gonna come by here and spread the Malina and Crows agenda
Indeed.
Drinking game: take a shot every time the show flashes back to the meadow scene 😂
i get where John is coming from . i'm also a non reader and only realised it's base on a book after ep 1. there were so many question with everyones background as a result .
i honestly liked nina & matthias story line more & the crows rather than alina and mal
omgggg what a great video i didn't know that you had read the shadow and bone trilogy though christine!!! when i read them i looked for your reviews on them but couldn't find any :( i loved the show so much, i LOVED how they tied the crows in and gave us a prequel look at them... kanej made my heart siiinnnggggg
“There’s some crows, there’s some bones” -John
I didnt ship anyone with Alina when i read the trilogy. I hated the Darkling (though he was an interesting villain) and disliked Mal. I loved Nikolai but didnt ship him with anyone either.
But after watching the show: Malina is great, The darkling is still a horrible human being (but Ben Barnes did a good job playing him) though. Sorry Darklina fans :(
Also the Crows are just AMAZINGGGG
Literally how I felt while reading the books. Altough, I loved Mal and Alina's first kiss. I shipped them at that point.
same!!
I wish we got more episodes so that The Darkling reveal happened later
i can't believe you liked Pekka Rollins bc i did not like who they cast at all. he doesn't look like what i imagined and he just doesn't feel like Pekka Rollins. it's like they picked a random old man and put him in a costume.
Same. I never imagined Pekka with a beard. I do need to see more of him. Still, when I saw Pekka and Kaz interacting I was freaking out because I knew what Kaz was going through.
they go across the fold a lot for supplies but they don’t really have planes or anything and I don’t think a hot air balloon would be able to hold everything they need. i think only Nikolai had a flying ship or something.
He has a point with the Skiff and how flimsy it is. Like, I didn't even think about it. But now? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? xD
I read the books so long ago maybe like 5-6 years ago so watching the show for me was like I knew sort of what would happen but I forgot about so many details and it was just amazing almost reliving that world again!!
I personally think it’s better than the book (but not better than six of crows),,, it’s also still concerning how many people unironically ship darklina like...
Right? That man has literally abused every woman he’s ever met.
@@nicoletaelor279 exactly, I honestly don’t see how people see him as ✨goals✨
When Marie died in the books in Book 2, they made her look like Alina so everyone thought Alina had died
i could be wrong but wasnt that at the end of ruin and rising in alina’s “funeral” with ruby to make ppl believe that she was martyred?
@@briemutya You are correct.
Marie died when the Darkling attacked the Little Palace in the second book, though
@@humairahamdi1887 yes I know! They just did something different with the show, although in both versions Marie still had Alinas face at some time or another
I just reread the books. Marie died in Sergei's arms when the Darkling ambushed the palace. She was split open into two, but she didn't have Alina's face. It was definitely Ruby who had Alina's face in the last book when she was placed in the pyre with the Darkling
I honestly have no words for how I feel about the 1st season, it was just sooo much better than I could’ve imagined and I absolutely fell in love! Binged all 8 episodes last night and I’m already longing for more of it 😭😍
I love Johns reactions to your excitement. In my head he's like ok nerd lol
From the books, it was like a heavy collar welded around her neck, not a necklace, but like a slave collar so the Darkling could control her powers.
Showing a different piece of bone to represent the Darkling controlling her and the horror of it sinking in to her flesh worked really well as a more visual metaphor in the show for the same thing...
i’m so hype for KING NIKOLAI to come in
I watched the show, and mal was definitely better than he was in the books (given that they did a 180 on his character) but I still don't ship malina. He represents her childhood as a sickly orphan and held her back from reaching her full potential. Still thought Darklina was better. Yes it's twisted, but that makes everything more interesting....
Someone who had not read it was obsessed with the idea of having a hamster wheel to get across the Fold. It was so weird for me because I never questioned that.
as someone who hasn’t read the books, i agree with john completely
As someone who has listened to the six of crows audio books but did not read Shadow and Bone until the day that this came out I finished it yesterday the first book but watching this with that knowledge I enjoyed the crap out of it
You’re the reason I watched this series bc of your rec on insta. I appreciate it! It was AMAZING!
I read the Shadow & Bone books back in high school and kind of wished I remembered more of it lol. I read Six of Crows much more recently and then ofc the new duology
I feel the same way about Book Mal vs. Show Mal! The series totally won me over.
The show was great but if I hadn't read the books I wouldnt have known at all about Kaz and anything he has to go through
John continuing to name mythical animals while Christine ignores him and keeps talking about the actual plot 😂
I feel like I love love loved the crows parts of the show. Butttt when it comes to the grisha parts I feel like they rushed everything. Like I don’t think they even ever talked about the amplifier and I feel like if I hadn’t read the books I would’ve been so confused. They didn’t get to dive into anything because they tried to fit so much in. I love mal in the books and I really liked his character in the show. I wish they could’ve dived more into Alina learning more bc that’s how we learned things in the book and we didn’t learn a whole lot in the show. The way they changed how the amplifier wigged me out oh my goodness. The darkling was so good at making me hate him. Nina and Mattias were really good but their story was so disconnected until the last minute.
I can’t wait to see season 2!
Inej mentions a brother that was also kidnapped, which didn't happen in the books. Is David going to turn out to be that brother? Just like another way to connect the two worlds?
I dont know if David is Suli but her brother was sold into slavery so i dont think it can be him
@@herz5159 good point but - and this might be stretch - he might have been liberated by the darkling who noticed his 'duras' (?) abilities
@@roisinm6292 I think David is older than Inej while Inej's brother is 2 years younger, so I doubt that will be the case.
Also, I think it's Durast with a t having read the books.
I watched Shadow and Bone having only read Six of Crows yeaaaars ago and not remembering anything about it. So I went into basically blind to the world. I also knew the basics of the characters like Kaz and Inej and also knew the Darkling was intriguing to a lot of people.
And i absolutely LOVED the show, it's my new obsession. The one thing I would say though I wish there had been a map (longer than the glimpse we had). I had to Google the Grisha map to understand the itinerary of the Crows and where was the Fold, who were Fjerdans and Shu Hans etc. And I agree with John about the keftas, having not read Shadow and Bone I was confused as to why there were different colors, why was Alina blue.
Overall it did make me want to re-read the Six of Crows duology (I am less interested in Alina's story than I am the Crows).
im so ready for nikolai bro my ships are gonna be so fucking lostttt
I completely agree with what she said about reading crows before watching it. Made it so much fun!!
I literally need more of it to watch 😭 I loved the 8 episodes we got
in Brazilian Portuguese when someone gets screwed we say " alguém se deu Mal " So it's hilarious to watch the series, because everything ends badly to Mal
i’m so motivated to read the books after watching the amazing show !
i STILL don't get how people can ship darklina. like i can get how you can like the darkling as a character, he's interesting. but him with alina?? no ma'am
I ship it but not for cannon? Like only in a world where there’s a redemption arc? ESP in the tv show I think the darkling has a bit more of a sympathetic edge. But at the end he obviously leans into his evilness so I don’t see it happening in cannon. But whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Loved your video !
I agree with everything you said ! I wished we could have pass more time with Alina's training and the friendship she makes at the Little Palace (Genya's betrayal doesn't carry as much weight here as he does in the books). I loved Pekka Rollins too ! I can't wait to see what they are going to do with him and Kaz but the scenes were really promising !
The Darkling does control her power but he doesn't need a piece of the amplifier are to touch her to do it, they are just connected now because he killed the stag but she saved his life.
And yes Jesper was really perfect !!! Ben Barnes too, and all the cast was really great I think but Kit and Ben just blew my mind !
Will/have you read King of scars and Rule of wolves ?
Funnily enough, I wonder if people would have a better time reading SoC after watching S&B seeing as the show basically turns the SoC plot into a prequel for the story of the actual duology (which I assume will begin in s2)
I watched the show with my mother who has never even heard of the books and seeing her a little confused as to what the different Grisha powers met as well as the general geography of the world makes me wonder if they should have done a better job with that. I actually brought my copy down to show her the map of Ravka and where it was in relation to the fold/Kerch etc. But whereas the books provide you with pretty good detail (even if it's not all at once) as to the order of the Grisha and what the various levels of their powers are, even as a reader myself I found myself waiting for similar moments in the show and they never came. I can't even imagine how a show-only person would understand the differences between a duras and an alkemi, a heartrender and a healer etc etc. At the end of the day it's mostly lore rather than essential to understanding the plot but the lore behind the Grisha powers is so rich and it informs so much of the social structure and who is more important that it's a shame it wasn't explained a little clearer. We just had people referring to themselves as "squaller" "heartrender" etc or Kaz correcting the man who called them "grisha witches" by telling him they're called "fabrikators" which is only one of seven different kinds of Grisha. It's probably my ONLY gripe with the entire show and I guess it's one of those things that you go along for the ride and you just don't know what you don't know.
I can't wait for season 2 to see what they do with the Crows and who might be introduced!!!!!
I LOVE how she did a Friends reference at 8:17! ✊🏻✊🏻
"He was fun, but he could have KILLED them!"
The Reader Vs Non-Reader struggle! 😅😅
Hopefully the first season is well received enough to get even more episodes nest season!
4:29 I completely agree I have read both Triology and six of crows so I knew the character but for anyone who hasn’t read any of the books I think it must been highly OVERWHELMING having like 7 main characters and trying to see where it’s all going to connect. So for that I felt like they truly could have waited for the six of crows to have their own season, but I do think they did a wonderful job at linking everyone
I'd read the Grisha trilogy a couple years before going into the show and nothing else, but I had six of crows on my shelf and just hadn't gotten around to it. As soon as the crows came on screen I paused to find out who they were and immediately started reading the crows duology. I'm so glad I did! It's definitely better knowing more about the crows going into the show and six of crows and crooked kingdom are officially my favourite books now.
They melded the amplifier into her skin bc it would have been difficult to do exposition about how he was gaining control over her through dialogue and make it feel natural, so like the bone fusing was more of a visual aid to replace exposition
Non reader pov is exactly what i needed !
Disagree on reading Crows before- the show is their prequel story, and I think it's nice to watch first, then read then rewatch.
Me just realising what the bone in the title is refering to😲😲😅😅😅
The other animals are a sea serpent (Rusalye) and a firebird! Also yes, Nikolai flies at some point.
How has no one thought of flying over it before😂
while reading the book, idk if they addressed it but i always assumed it was high enough that you can’t fly over but in the show they really didn’t make it look that tall LMAO
They also don't have any way to fly until Nikolai invents flying contraptions, which he only personally owns 4 or so of until after the Shadow and Bone trilogy. And I think it's too tall because they still have to fly through rather than over the Fold when they have flying ships.
I wanted to see more of the training too!
I enjoyed the show so much! It's definitely once of the better adaptations out there
I LOVED the series and the actors did an incredible job!! The only thing that I felt was a little bit 'weird' (except for not getting to see Alina really train in the little palace) was that Alina's face lit up when she used the powers, while the Darkling's didn't. It could be -as you mentioned, that they did that to show that she wasn't in control, but I still felt like it looked a little out of place compared to how it looked when the other grisha used their powers.
I've only read the first shadow and bone book, but I loved six of crows and it definitely carried the show for me! They were the parts I looked forward to.
20:00 That spin was so cute
we literally have all the same thoughts about this show ahaha
i only read shadow and bone and not any of the other books and it was several years ago, and all i remembered before starting the show was that i had shipped the darkling and alina and i didn't even remember mal lol but holy shit i do NOT feel that way now!! i feel like now that i'm older the darkling's manipulation might be more obvious to me in the books, but in the show it's so well done that i really don't get how i could ship them at all. he's the worst!!!!!! and mal is so sweet :') and i'm reading SOC now since i loved the crows so much. nina and matthias tho... OOF i am scared, i am gonna be STRESSED with their plot being adapted to screen but also excited
I just started rereading Siege and Storm, and to answer why couldn't they just go over it, cuz I think they haven't reached that kind of technology yet. Nikolai's Hummingbird is still very reliant on squallers to lift up the airship and I think they just don't have the manpower to have that. and the Darkling basically doesn't really support the Materialnik that much, unlike Nikolai.
I loved the show! I was so scared going in because I’ve been so horrible let down by other adaptations, specially Shadowhunters, but they did wonderful, in my opinion!! Though I have to say, as they were some of my favorite characters in the book, Kaz and Inej were a let down for me. That mushy line he said in the last episode was so out of character. I distinctly remember Kaz saying something like “anyone can be replaced, even you” in the first book. Kaz would never show that he needed anybody. Other than those two, it was a very solid show!
Also, the fold does go forever up. Even Nikolai had to cross it when using his flying ship.
I will never getting over Shadowhunters getting run through the mud not once, but TWICE 😭 I haven't read any of the Grisha books but I downloaded the Six of Crows audiobook immediately after finishing the show I'm so excited ☺️
@@pale_emo_princess Same!! I am a slow reader and I binge the first four books in like two/three weeks, which is very fast for me, in order to watch shadowhunters, and I was so so let down that first episode. Like I worked so hard for nothing.
Personally, I would read the Shadow and Bone series first, even though I enjoyed SoC much more. I reread SoC after reading S&B and realized they are small easter eggs that make it that much better.
I instandly fell in love with Nina and Matthias even tough I haven't read any of the books. For me the connection was there right away. These two are way more interesting than Alina and Mal.
You defined my middle school book phase and I finally found your account again
I have been waiting for this video!!!!
This was a super interesting video. I watched the show and loved it but haven’t read the book yet but I am a super engaged fantasy reader so I think I’ll enjoy them. I know you said you read six of crows first so what’s your advice about doing that without having read shadow and bone books?
I agree with the tank point. It’s not that difficult? At least go under deck? Like... come on. How is it that only a single person is aware of literal TRAIN TRACKS existing... even a brick house on wheels would be safer. The open sail boat is ridiculous, fully agree
aaaaaaaaaa i loved your review!! the show was so good!
Guys I knooow I read the original trilogy in 2014, even my goodreads tells me that, but all I remember, like legit, is the word grisha and that I found the darkling sexy. Nothing else. The show was fantastic, but I still don't remember anything else in the books including how it ends. And this means that provided enough time my crapy memory can let me read stuff like it's the first time again. Wonderful, it's both awful and fantastic.
I only finished the show a few days ago but already I want more and to watch it again!
YESSSSS I WAS WAITINGGGG
Netflix tends to give shows just 2 seasons and I hope this keeps going
I wonder if they will or can incorporate the Six of Crows in a Season 2 (which will hopefully happen) considering they're going to be separate storylines after the end of season 1. It'll be sad if they get their own show since SOC brings some much needed relief and fun and humor to S&B storyline.
i am living for the fold thwarting hot air balloon. genius.
I can never tell what is the in the majority: Malina or Darklina? Either way I support anyone's ship. It's fantasy. But I prefer Darklina, because to me, it's the more interesting story.
I think its pretty even
Solid casting, and I agree that some things should have slowed down.
The one thing that really bothered me was Kaz. The actor was great and several of his scenes were awesome. However, I felt like they sped through his character arc. Like, they got to the end of his arc by the end of the first season without even fully showing the struggle. He flat out tells Inej that she's important to him, whereas he frustratingly REFUSED to admit that forecer in the books. And I was really mad when the Conductor stole Kaz's thunder. Kaz's one super cool moment was during the Alina doubles thing. Other than that he didn't come across as conniving and morally grey and scarily clever. I hope with the new season they'll showcase that more, but I don't know what they'll do about the fact that they've weakened his internal conflict. Maybe if they had treated his relationship with Inej as pre-Sux of Crows, we could have seen their relationship build instead of evolve from a starting point that wasn't well established.
That said, this show is AWESOME.