Here is what he does not see: This car is build for curves. I had the fun of Taking Electra (my i8) on a tour from Geneva to St Tropez 2 weeks ago in a little drive around rally with about 8 Porsches, a Jaguar F and an Mercedes AMG. The week part where actually the tires - Speed was amazingly fine, to the point the POrsche drivers where shocked. Yes, you loose on higher speeds (Drag Race), but up a mountain pass, down the other side the mix engine provides amazingly fast responses and high torgue. I had no problem keeping up with all the high power cars at all - up to the point my tires started fading. So, what comes out of that? * A little more performance would be nice. Time for tuning. * Replace tires with AC Schnutzer wide tires (195 -> 245, 215 -> 285) to get more grip. But no, power and speed NEVER where an issue. In Europe we do not do drag racing so much ;) we find it boring. We love curvy things.
170k is a used Ferrari money! The way I see it, the i8 is a fashion statement like the RAZR, a proof that EVs don't have to look like the (very explicit language) cars from The Demolition Man & a study into wether Carbon Fiber can be mass produced & still be profitable or not. As always, excellent work, M!
Nice Review, very appealing Filming; but not quite precise: 1. The Trunk ist capable to fit one normal Cabin Luggage Trolley plus some smaller Luggage as small Bags and Shoes. Behind the Seats is a Load of Space Minimum 2 Trolleys or big Sports Bags/Weekender. Ps: Most of the Reviews rather like the Car except for the small Engine. But the Driving Experience is top; the Design ist stunning an not to be depending on Charging Stations is a big Plus. You are right eather Drive in Sport or Electric Mode. It is still the only Roadster that can be driven completely Electric; thats such a unique Feeling! I love my 2018 i8 Roadster. It is a Keeper; especially the Prices are still relatively low!
Yo!!!! Lunada Bay! I drove through that intersection every day on my way to high school. Sea Kings 2010! I live in Oregon now, but seeing that brings back so many memories! Especially Officer Knox hanging out ticketing everyone 😂
Hi I enjoy listening to you You are really really gifted You make sense with a few sentences when you describe something complicated. You always get my attention, I can't stop following you. Your natural ways of delivering a point are just amazing. I thank you for each episode, even your silence, even the gaps between ideas, when you stop talking, I like it and I think it gives your style of speech it's uniqueness. You are awesome in all your moods, lighten up the music, and I will enjoy more. Love from Saudi Arabia
Panamera E-Hybrib.. is, I think @400 hp, plus you get about 30 miles on full electric at 80 mph? (I am probably way off, but in the ball park). So, it can be done.. at a lower price too.
I had exactly the same problem with my i8. I could never get the 14 mile range via charging except once or twice. Like you found, if I drove agressivly in sport mode then I could see the range of the battery increase but via the charger (which was a wall mounted BMW charger operting at 240V here in the U.K), was dissapointing. Loved the car but too many pitfalls.
Dunno how you guys are driving your vehicles, always flat to the floor and aggressively swerving trough traffic? I have the pre-facelift i8 with the smaller battery and I can get 30 km (18 miles) out of the 10 year old HV battery in it. Of course this requires that you don't drive like a wannabe F1 driver or a "chav" (UK term for trash ppls). Of course this or any other EV kind of vehicle will not get the maximum "range" if its driven on (US) highway speeds, or above those. Try to drive any hybrid vehicle or a "tesla" or such 120-140 kph (70-80 mph) and the range just disappears in to the thin air. Sweet spot for any such vehicle is either downtown, suburbs or curvy roads with speed limits something like 80 kph (50 mph). And those are plenty here in Europe.
The problem with this car is everyone's watching you get into this thing then when you start the motor and drive away everyone starts laughing.It's like a bodybuilder without any man sausage,it's basically a rockstar with a sock down his pants.Another great video motorman keep up the good job.
@@skychaos87 $163,300 base price for a place holder. I don't see the fuel efficiency in 163k that's the last thing that would be on my mind at that price. Oh by the way,how do you tell your parents that you're gay... You pull up in their driveway with an i8 convertible lmao
And the 944 . . . Would love to do more, depends on how you guys react to those films. Tried classic cars early on in the show's tenure but sadly, classic cars don't garner as many views as new cars:(
@@MotoManTV It not because classic car don't have viewer just. You need more iconic car so people would tune it. In the end we can not watch every channel right away when It come out.
I disagree I own a roadster in black. It’s faster thank people think, I live in NYC it’s an awesome city car, and rides smoother than my Benz when I put it in electric mode. The looks of the car are also hard to beat. With a v8 or v10 the car would prob go for 200k+ at that range you might as well buy a Lambo or Ferrari. I think they were smart about it tbh
I have an s550 bought in 2017 right before they changed the body, and I have an i8 roadster the roadster is WAY more fun to drive and has way better tech imo. The Benz feels like a boat. It feels heavy and wide but it’s good luxury. The i8 is just as smooth when in electric mode.
can You call Accura so next You can try the new 2019 NSX? Pretty please :) it would be interesting to see what do You make of it especially after U drove the new Porsche 992 that is going to have a hybrid system soon. I recon I8 and the New NSX are ahead of their times and once Porsche will do a Hybrid 911 people will take notice of thouse cars
the 918 is a million dolar hipercar a like 959 and Carerra GT a tour the force of Porsches technical abilities. Out of reach of most car enthusiasts. Porsche alredy made a new Panamara a hybrid but again that not a pure super sport car. it's a very quick family/executive car. Once Porsche will hybridizate their most famous sports car then I recon we will see how good or bad is the hybrid system on the new NSX
The fuel economy of this car is very disappointing. Considering all the weight savings with the carbon and the electric motors and batteries and it only gets 28 mpg at best. I would expect at least 30 mpg combined or even Prius-like fuel economy. I know it's MUCH sportier than a Prius, but it also weighs less and has a smaller engine. The Lexus LC500h get better fuel economy than this and it's not even a plug-in hybrid. Honestly, this car just isn't worth $170,000 dollars to me. I could get an Acura NSX or both the LC500 and 500h. Even the Porsche Panamera hybrid turbo gets better fuel economy and it's bigger, faster, and a Porsche. :_(
Disappointing numbers, still disappointed I don't have 160k to say "its a no go" because then I could actually say "its a no go". Since I don't have a 160k, its definitely a no go regardless
The problem with this car is that it's too flamboyant for it own good. It looks like it drives like a Ferrari but it really drives like a Lexus. It's a hybrid so you'd think you'd have the fuel efficiency of a Prius. And yet despite having neither of those it's nowhere near as practical as a Boxster, a Z4 or a SLC and costing double to triple the price. BMW should've started with a Panamera / Model S competitor, that way they would have a lot more room to work with, keep the practicality and save the embarrassment of your customer base having to explain that their "super car" is slower than a Mustang
@@chatchi 90% of the trash talk about BMW i8 here in YT is from peoples whom never driven, never owned anything even remotely new sports car nor ca they afford the i8 or the "counterpart they would rather choose", the 911 or used McLaren, lel. I like my 2014 i8 just fine. It fits its spot very well when you have your home charger and you don't imagine that the i8 is counterpart to cars like a Ferrari 458, Audi R8 V10 or McLaren 650S. The sound of silence with your supercar looking sportscar is ... well you have to experience it. And have a mindset totally opposite that your average "lambo chavs" terrorising the neighborhood of Knightsbridge in London, UK.
This car is now discontinued after 23 months of production - you can buy one with 30% off (depn up front if you like) just like you could on the unloved Z8 and SLS in 2003 and 2012 - both are now great investments now -the i8 will be much sought after in ten years like those two cars and will start going up in value in just 5 yrs....I bought all 3 SLS/Z8/i8r cars btw, so have an idea of what the mkt is on rare cars....
Here is what he does not see: This car is build for curves. I had the fun of Taking Electra (my i8) on a tour from Geneva to St Tropez 2 weeks ago in a little drive around rally with about 8 Porsches, a Jaguar F and an Mercedes AMG. The week part where actually the tires - Speed was amazingly fine, to the point the POrsche drivers where shocked. Yes, you loose on higher speeds (Drag Race), but up a mountain pass, down the other side the mix engine provides amazingly fast responses and high torgue. I had no problem keeping up with all the high power cars at all - up to the point my tires started fading.
So, what comes out of that?
* A little more performance would be nice. Time for tuning.
* Replace tires with AC Schnutzer wide tires (195 -> 245, 215 -> 285) to get more grip.
But no, power and speed NEVER where an issue. In Europe we do not do drag racing so much ;) we find it boring. We love curvy things.
No fast. CURVES ... just like de woman! Nice insights. Thx!
170k is a used Ferrari money!
The way I see it, the i8 is a fashion statement like the RAZR, a proof that EVs don't have to look like the (very explicit language) cars from The Demolition Man & a study into wether Carbon Fiber can be mass produced & still be profitable or not.
As always, excellent work, M!
Nice Review, very appealing Filming; but not quite precise:
1. The Trunk ist capable to fit one normal Cabin Luggage Trolley plus some smaller Luggage as small Bags and Shoes.
Behind the Seats is a Load of Space Minimum 2 Trolleys or big Sports Bags/Weekender.
Ps: Most of the Reviews rather like the Car except for the small Engine.
But the Driving Experience is top; the Design ist stunning an not to be depending on Charging Stations is a big Plus.
You are right eather Drive in Sport or Electric Mode.
It is still the only Roadster that can be driven completely Electric; thats such a unique Feeling!
I love my 2018 i8 Roadster.
It is a Keeper; especially the Prices are still relatively low!
Anyway this Paint is not orange but Copper!
Mine has the black interior because the Interior IS orange!
Yo!!!! Lunada Bay! I drove through that intersection every day on my way to high school. Sea Kings 2010! I live in Oregon now, but seeing that brings back so many memories! Especially Officer Knox hanging out ticketing everyone 😂
My 2019 i8 Roadster get 30 miles of EV range, if driven meticulously. Fyi. Also, only 3800 i8 Roadsters were ever built. I LOVE EXCLUSIVITY!!!!!!!
Hi
I enjoy listening to you
You are really really gifted
You make sense with a few sentences when you describe something complicated. You always get my attention, I can't stop following you. Your natural ways of delivering a point are just amazing. I thank you for each episode, even your silence, even the gaps between ideas, when you stop talking, I like it and I think it gives your style of speech it's uniqueness. You are awesome in all your moods, lighten up the music, and I will enjoy more.
Love from Saudi Arabia
Thank you for the great feedback!
Love your videos! Such great production value and good info.
Thank you!
Panamera E-Hybrib.. is, I think @400 hp, plus you get about 30 miles on full electric at 80 mph? (I am probably way off, but in the ball park). So, it can be done.. at a lower price too.
Informative video as usual. There were so many opportunities missed with this present car the more I learn about it the more annoyed I get.
I had exactly the same problem with my i8. I could never get the 14 mile range via charging except once or twice. Like you found, if I drove agressivly in sport mode then I could see the range of the battery increase but via the charger (which was a wall mounted BMW charger operting at 240V here in the U.K), was dissapointing. Loved the car but too many pitfalls.
Dunno how you guys are driving your vehicles, always flat to the floor and aggressively swerving trough traffic? I have the pre-facelift i8 with the smaller battery and I can get 30 km (18 miles) out of the 10 year old HV battery in it. Of course this requires that you don't drive like a wannabe F1 driver or a "chav" (UK term for trash ppls).
Of course this or any other EV kind of vehicle will not get the maximum "range" if its driven on (US) highway speeds, or above those. Try to drive any hybrid vehicle or a "tesla" or such 120-140 kph (70-80 mph) and the range just disappears in to the thin air.
Sweet spot for any such vehicle is either downtown, suburbs or curvy roads with speed limits something like 80 kph (50 mph). And those are plenty here in Europe.
Great Car!
The problem with this car is everyone's watching you get into this thing then when you start the motor and drive away everyone starts laughing.It's like a bodybuilder without any man sausage,it's basically a rockstar with a sock down his pants.Another great video motorman keep up the good job.
this car is not designed for speed, its designed for fuel efficiency and as a place holder until they transit to full electric designs.
@@skychaos87 $163,300 base price for a place holder. I don't see the fuel efficiency in 163k that's the last thing that would be on my mind at that price. Oh by the way,how do you tell your parents that you're gay... You pull up in their driveway with an i8 convertible lmao
@@FLtheq yay insults! gotta love opinions from people like you.
@@skychaos87 Insult what insult? Another snowflake that don't know what a joke is. Now that's a insult,see the difference.
@@FLtheq lol... keep trying, its getting hilarious
Finally you're going to a film on the old SL. There is a god!
And the 944 . . . Would love to do more, depends on how you guys react to those films. Tried classic cars early on in the show's tenure but sadly, classic cars don't garner as many views as new cars:(
@@MotoManTV It not because classic car don't have viewer just. You need more iconic car so people would tune it. In the end we can not watch every channel right away when It come out.
Not a fan of this BMW at all! The I8 is way overpriced in my opinion! I'd buy a 911S4 convertible 992 and be very happy!
Trunk or frunk, I think any coupe out on the market would have trouble stowing a torpedo 😂
It’s a disappointment of a car , could have been so much better, and the price for it is too high for what it is.
I disagree I own a roadster in black. It’s faster thank people think, I live in NYC it’s an awesome city car, and rides smoother than my Benz when I put it in electric mode. The looks of the car are also hard to beat. With a v8 or v10 the car would prob go for 200k+ at that range you might as well buy a Lambo or Ferrari. I think they were smart about it tbh
Would take a S560 instead of this any day
You clearly are lame and don't get too much pussy
I have an s550 bought in 2017 right before they changed the body, and I have an i8 roadster the roadster is WAY more fun to drive and has way better tech imo. The Benz feels like a boat. It feels heavy and wide but it’s good luxury. The i8 is just as smooth when in electric mode.
chatchi ok
Actually I am surprised by the cost of the car. 173k is asking a lot for what you get.
can You call Accura so next You can try the new 2019 NSX? Pretty please :) it would be interesting to see what do You make of it especially after U drove the new Porsche 992 that is going to have a hybrid system soon. I recon I8 and the New NSX are ahead of their times and once Porsche will do a Hybrid 911 people will take notice of thouse cars
Ahead of the 918?
the 918 is a million dolar hipercar a like 959 and Carerra GT a tour the force of Porsches technical abilities. Out of reach of most car enthusiasts. Porsche alredy made a new Panamara a hybrid but again that not a pure super sport car. it's a very quick family/executive car. Once Porsche will hybridizate their most famous sports car then I recon we will see how good or bad is the hybrid system on the new NSX
While I would love to drive the new NSX, we don't feature Acura on the show.
MotoManTV no problems pop abroad then and try the Honda NSX!! lol
The fuel economy of this car is very disappointing. Considering all the weight savings with the carbon and the electric motors and batteries and it only gets 28 mpg at best. I would expect at least 30 mpg combined or even Prius-like fuel economy. I know it's MUCH sportier than a Prius, but it also weighs less and has a smaller engine. The Lexus LC500h get better fuel economy than this and it's not even a plug-in hybrid. Honestly, this car just isn't worth $170,000 dollars to me. I could get an Acura NSX or both the LC500 and 500h. Even the Porsche Panamera hybrid turbo gets better fuel economy and it's bigger, faster, and a Porsche. :_(
DO that look like a car you care about fuel economy? The engine is why nobody buying it. They should start giving it big engine.
The video is nice but please cut the background music. It’s annoying!
The SL,s same age as me but in better condition LOL 😀
Can not competing with machine. It can live lover than us as long as owner willing to maintenance it.
BMW should've used a Porsche Boxter Boxer (Mid)Engine.
It would have driven the price even higher. The car has a carbon fiber shell. That ain't cheap!
I could get 30 mpg for my g29 Z4
Disappointing numbers, still disappointed I don't have 160k to say "its a no go" because then I could actually say "its a no go". Since I don't have a 160k, its definitely a no go regardless
BMW do provide discount
The problem with this car is that it's too flamboyant for it own good. It looks like it drives like a Ferrari but it really drives like a Lexus. It's a hybrid so you'd think you'd have the fuel efficiency of a Prius. And yet despite having neither of those it's nowhere near as practical as a Boxster, a Z4 or a SLC and costing double to triple the price. BMW should've started with a Panamera / Model S competitor, that way they would have a lot more room to work with, keep the practicality and save the embarrassment of your customer base having to explain that their "super car" is slower than a Mustang
Nothing gets a bigger reaction in this car and nothing has been more fun to own
@@chatchi 90% of the trash talk about BMW i8 here in YT is from peoples whom never driven, never owned anything even remotely new sports car nor ca they afford the i8 or the "counterpart they would rather choose", the 911 or used McLaren, lel.
I like my 2014 i8 just fine. It fits its spot very well when you have your home charger and you don't imagine that the i8 is counterpart to cars like a Ferrari 458, Audi R8 V10 or McLaren 650S. The sound of silence with your supercar looking sportscar is ... well you have to experience it. And have a mindset totally opposite that your average "lambo chavs" terrorising the neighborhood of Knightsbridge in London, UK.
24 mpg for a hybrid is terrible. I wouldn't waste my money on it. *If I had that kind of money. lol
Long live xxxtentacions car
For the money the Porsche 911 has to a better purchase.
Cayman s, £53k ($66kusd) out the door.
I’d rather get a used 650s and a Prius.
Someone should take an i8, stuff a giant engine in and rip shit
I’d take a 991 or 992 cab over this any day of the week... and twice on Sundays.
BMW IS TIN ON WHEELS 😅😅😅😅
These things after 5k miles are in the 60's lololol.
Agreed . . . SCREAMING second hand bargain . . . And you know I am an aficionado of a bargain:)
@@MotoManTV hmm, bargain? Or perhaps money pit and not up to expectations?
This car is now discontinued after 23 months of production - you can buy one with 30% off (depn up front if you like) just like you could on the unloved Z8 and SLS in 2003 and 2012 - both are now great investments now -the i8 will be much sought after in ten years like those two cars and will start going up in value in just 5 yrs....I bought all 3 SLS/Z8/i8r cars btw, so have an idea of what the mkt is on rare cars....
It’s not an SUV
All flash, mediocre efficiency and no go. Tired of i8 version 1.0, time for version 2.0.
all flash is all you need
I am planing to buy my bmw i8. I just checked this one and thinking to get it: ua-cam.com/video/MkO5rNVoyco/v-deo.html
Not worthy
Lame 😒