POLICE K9 vs "SCENT CONTROL" Products (Do They ACTUALLY Work??)
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2021
- In this episode of Seek One, we have a police drug sniffing K9 test five different hunting scent control products.
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True story- a few years ago I knew a trespasser was hunting my land. I found where he was driving into a neighbors land, hiding his truck in a low draw, and walking in to hunt mine. He left his truck with a bottle of scent blocking spray on his tailgate.
I emptied the bottle and refilled it from my bladder and put it back on his tailgate.
That’s awesome!
I would love to see this test done with John Eberhart all suited up in his scentlok gear.
Always remember, our grandpa’s used to walk into the woods after working all day, lean up against a tree and smoke a cigarette and kill big deer.
And most likely the wind was NOT blowing towards the deer. Otherwise they wouldn’t have killed big deer
Uphill both ways
@@conservativeprodigy2604 you would think so but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been out turkey hunting and sitting in the blind smoking a cig with no scent covers or anything considering we’re hunting turkey and had big deer walk straight up to the blind and stick there heads in
My grandpa would always smoke his cigars and would kill deer. He always said it doesn’t matter what you smell like it only matters where the wind blows. Always keep that in mind.
Yeah and we aren’t hunting the same deer that Grandpa did either.
Great video. I want to take a moment to say how much I appreciate y’all’s efforts. This video was not cheap to make. Great job!
I’ve always been convinced that scent blockers never work to hide your scent. All they do is paint an illusion that you are farther away from them than what you really are which gives you an advantage. Also the deer rarely get close enough to pinpoint the source before it’s too late!! Enjoyed the educational purposes of the video tho.
Bingo. Most deer have encountered humans and human smell many times. But as they touched on at the end the key is reducing the smell to a level they dont feel that the threat is nearby. In other words its so weak they thing it is either days old or far away. I tried ozonics last year combined with scent control and i had many deer downwind under 50 yards and they were spooky as heck but they didnt blow and they didnt run off. Without anything in the past when they got downwind it was game over. Deer blowing like crazy and running off looking back right at me lol
You never totally eliminate human scent
@@davidhammer154 went out past few days hunting small piece of property 60 acres and had deer spooked from my morning stand in the afternoon hunt I was close enough to hear them blowing 3 different times through the afternoon… last time I went out I rubbed pine all over me and had a doe with two yearlings come up to my tree got a lil scared but didn’t blow feel like you can not really ever cover up your scent from an adult deer
Most people dont know what it takes to eliminate your scent. Most of the remaining people are too lazy to go through it all. Wind is your friend….. use it
The ticket is to be down wind
Fascinating videos guys! thank you for taking the time to put all this together!
I think a big factor is also attentive-ness or attention.
For this test, the dog is focused and actively searching for something he knows is there. A deer is passively scenting the air for something that may be there while it’s attention is focused somewhere else.
The key is to mitigate your scent and play the wind to a degree where so little of your odor makes it to the deer they overlook it. It doesn’t matter if they smell you if it’s minimized to a degree where they either don’t notice it or they dismiss it.
And, do one test in the morning and in the evening due to thermals rising and falling
Absolutely correct, couldn’t have explained it better myself
But a deer also has much better olfactory sensitivity than a dog (I've heard 1000x better), and as a prey animal, will avoid anything that is "wrong".
Avoiding being upwind is a better approach imo
That’s exactly what I was going to say. It’s a cool experiment but all we learned is if you’re running from the cops and they bring out the dogs you’re screwed. lol for real it was a neat to watch though
This is 100% true, I have had dogs walk right past their favorite food and miss it in the grass and then telling them to search is a elevated to their senses that there is something there because the dog is trusting their handler. So this isn’t a test of smell at all.
Passively smelling is way different then active alerted smelling. Just like the handler said he is active using a search pattern. Deer scan and move and smell passively and in most areas are used to some human smell think WMA. But if a deer is in a heighten state of alertness there isn’t a single thing that it won’t run from a smell or a bird chirp or stick snapping or a squirrel. That’s why we hunt bedding areas because the deer a calm and not alerted and relaxed so they are actively looking for threats.
Awesome Job guys! Mark and Mattis take the win! There’s nothing this amazing guy can’t find or do!
I love Mattis! Found him on tik tok awhile ago! They’re my favorite! I love seeing what he can do, but I was sobbing when I seen the videos of his retirement 😭
I see a flaw in this and that’s they should have sprayed every box with the sprays and then the person. That way the dog doesn’t focus on the box with the spray, because every box has the spray and the dog will solely rely on the smell of a person. Amazing video either way.
Well the only issue with doing that is the fact that the woods doesn’t t smell like scent killer so if the scent killer does have a smell that the deer or a dog could pick up then you would know not to use that brand
@@kraxl_1034 I agree with you on that, I didn’t think about it that way.
As someone who has worked heavily with ozone sanitation, I highly advise against being in a confined space with an ozone generator. I've seen people get hospitalized do to leaks in their homes.
Yes concentrated ozone can be very dangerous even deadly.
Is it safe to use in a ground blind ?
@@chriswright6767 It really depends on the size of the generator, the size of the space, and the duration it's going to run. A couple minutes might make your lungs feel weird, but won't send you to the ER. I still wouldn't recommend it though, it's really not good for you to breathe in.
@@chriswright6767 you don’t want to be in close proximity with ozone for a long period of time. I would say no. But it depends on how much ventilation you have. And at that point the ozone wouldn’t be doing much to sanitize your scent.
I've seen that first hand being in apartment maintenance for a few years, they won't let you in that unit if the ozone machine is running.
man love yo vids and so happy to watch you hunt this year good luck
This is such a great video. The pizza, lausanga reference was eye opening.
Dude such a great idea for a vid! Been wondering how this would turn out forever!!
Myth busters did an epic scent show. Proved you can not beat a dogs/deer nose!
That dog is amazing, and he's having a blast!.... Lucky puppy. Great handler and buddy.
So glad y’all are doing this! I am glad to see the “scent control market” debunked.
these guys from watching all the suburban hunting videos got me into bows and just archery in general
Only way to beat the nose, be downwind of it, period
Period
I always hunt down wind because of the way our property is layed out and me and my family have killed big deer and I personally have never been winded by a deer you just have to learn how to have good scent control
@@samschetter3847 Pretty much impossible for an animal to smell you if you are downwind of it. Basic and simple, be downwind
@@meghan7547 yea and have good scent control... just in case the animal circles around you always happens to me.
Truth
I seen a drug dog hit a bundle of dope wrapped in tape and that was vacuumed sealed and that was dipped in transmission fluid vacuum seal again then wrapped in carbon paper vacuum sealed again and inside a welded metal container inside a gas tank and the dog hit it like nothing, I couldn’t believe it , these k-9s don’t get enough credit for their capabilities also the dedication from the Handlers . Great test thanks for y’all’s hard work .
I feel like the drug packer should have gotten some serious props for all the effort though. I'm sure he got a lot of jail time instead. But seriously, I appreciate that dedication
Love the channel. Having a good time with friends wherever you go. Think bow hunting, especially deer hunting, is a lost art. Love the Christian bend - thanking God. Keep up the good work.
It’s always a good day when y’all post
Pretty cool video. Best thing to take from your video like you said “hunt the wind”.
Got to remember that in early bow season the bucks are a hell of lot more smarter than when the rut happens
When I was younger and rutting my scent of smell was locked in on one thing and just like the deer makes you lose focus on your surroundings,I almost got killed several times myself
I like how y’all talked about the products give u a advantage and helps to a percentage
I love how he just gives up from the get go "this isn't gonna work but I'll try" 😂
Great job guys ! I agree with everything that your test may have proven. BTW I had a German Shepard that looked just like your K-9 friend there and his nose was incredible. Sometimes I think we overthink scent control products. By far the best scent control product is the wind and it has to be in our favor or your busted. I have tried everything and I can’t say anyone one product worked better than the others. Now days I just look for cedar trees and pine trees and rub the oil from the young trees on my clothes and boots. I also put my boots in a box with corn in it when in the truck. It may not work but it saves me
money for better arrows and broad heads by not buying expensive sprays that may or may not work. Lol ! Thanks guys ! Great job !! 👍👍
I would like to see John Eberhart do his "scent control regime" and jump in one those boxes just to end the debate. The only scent control is the wind. Period.
my exact thoughts. Let John set the rules and everything and let the dog go.
I'm sure he would if he hunted dogs trained to follow human scent.
@@scottbrowning2784 so you admit he is not scentless. End of debate...
@@cethmar3638 🤣
Let’s go, been waiting for this one for a while
Same
Awsome video!! Thanks for info. Cant wait to see y'all lay down some awsome videos this year n shoot some Suburban Monsters!!
Am here for Mark & Mattis!!!
I’d like to see a similar test, but instead of being in a box on a ground go to the next level. Put yourself in a tree stand/saddle at hunting height. Will that height make a difference? Will the dog be able to pick out the tree you’re in? Just something that came to mind while watching. Good video
I'm a K9 handler and did that test on a friend in a 20ft ladder stand. My buddy was in a scent lock suit, rubber boots, freshly showered with scent killer shampoo and doused with scent killer spray. He was hidden in a 6 acre block of timber. I sent the dog from the downwind side and he found the target like he hadn't showered in days.
@@sixthday132 so basically, hunt the wind haha
Hunt the wind. Simple as that. If you only have one stand and it’s the wrong wind. Sit on the couch, enjoy your time with family. Then when the wind is right you will be more successful! A strategic hunter is better than the hunter who goes out every day.
@@nathanschool4355 facts. That’s why you set up multiple stands on a property and hunt them solely dependent on the wind.
@@matt.denney yes if it’s large enough and you have good access to the stands
So glad you did this, Thank you! Drug smugglers would have been using scent blockers long before companies would have been selling to "hunters"
Loved this!!! Kinda wish they could have done just a little bite work but hey, maybe next time? 😁
This was a GREAT video! Thank you!!!
Something I learned 20 years ago was to hunt high. Like no less than 23 feet and have never had a deer wind me since I started doing that. I never use sprays or Any of that junk. But enclosed box blinds work to.
I'd love to see how the the same test would be out of treestands.
You'd have the same result, because of the flaws in the testing methods used and all the cross contamination issues.
I think you'd have the same results because of the walking path to the stand. How long until the scent path is off the ground is the real question?
@@softaildiaries yeah, the cross contamination that's created during this entire process eliminates the results from being anything else other the therm showing that a dog can indicate on par.
Your foot scent trail will be there for quite a long time, and brush scents even longer. There's "tracking" and "trailing" for our scent dogs. Tracking is finding the scent on the ground, and trailing is finding the scent in the air when they stick their heads straight up.
When going to the stand any brush, branches, leaves, ground foliage, or other things youn brush against are going to contain your scent. Given that even if they took descented showers, they more than likely did all of the following that contains powerful scents that re-contaminate themselves
- dried off with scented towel
- walked through house with scent signatures all around
- touched door handles, equipment, and other items that left scent on them
- drove in a vehicle that resaturated them with tons of scent
- perspiration when getting going to and from the stand
- the list goes on and on of ways they resaturate themselves.
So, all of that leaves a scent trail to follow even if dousing yourself in stuff to implode and neutralize the main scent molecules because you can't get every single square MM of your body and clothes. And since we know canine olfactory abilities are unimaginably superior to most, you're not fooling it just with some sprays unless you put EXTREMELY strict scent control protocols into place to eliminate any cross contaminating.
But these sprays don't "mask your scent" to the point of making you invisible either. They're designed to give you a weaker scent signature left behind for deer to smell, so they liken your scent trail with a much older or further away scent so that they will likely come in range.
If deer thinks your further away, they'll come closer in. But, literally NOTHING will beat being downwind of them or a dog even. But, even then, the really mature ones will circle around wide to catch any drifting scent downwind before they move into an area just out of caution and experience.
@@strikeforcek9149 thanks for the reply, you guys are awsome. You are truly blessed to have such a good pup. He's way better then most deer I encounter. Thanks for y'all's service!
@@softaildiaries like they said in the video though, the dog is looking for the scent, and gets a reward for finding it, the deer will avoid it in most cases, i like the skunk analogy, is it enough to scare it off, or does the deer live and habitat close enough to other human areas where the scent is present most times... too many variables. wind is your best weapon, but i'll try anything to make that deer come 10 yards closer... and then of course the rut where they just don't seem to care...
I am impressed with Matti,loved this video man
This was fun to watch even though most everybody knew the likely outcome.
I have seen some videos and podcasts talking about the possibility of pheromones playing a role in what the deer do when they smell us. It's been proven that animals, including us, give off different pheromones depending on mood. So the theories researchs/hunters are trying figure out is what types we give off when we're in a "hunting mood" or "predator state" vs in a "joyful hike state". It will be interesting to see what people come up with to test this in the future.
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I've done a ton of hiking & backpacking in my life & have filmed some of it, one of the reasons I got into hunting is I would see deer & bear just walking through the woods making ton's of foot noise, talking to my camera, no scent control, no camo, white shoes lol, moving briskly, no care of the wind & I still run up on something at least every other hike/trip. Not always but most of the time.
Since I've been learning to hunt & controlling my speed & just walking slowly & trying to avoid stick's & pine cones I'm seeing only slightly more deer. I feel like there is a divide between the hiking/backpacking & hunting community, from this side looking in the hunters assume a lot of times they are the only person "out there" when in reality you have hikers, backpackers, surveyors, schools, loggers, farmers, poachers, homeless, meth heads & all kinds of other random things that go into places you think are really remote. A lot of animals are used to people & I truly believe don't care nearly as much about us as many of these videos claim, & I ask this if HUNTER X claims scent control really really works like a lot of these talking heads do then what other thing's are they telling you that are also BS that they support?
Again all that is from a intermediate backpacker & noob hunter but if you just focus on walking slower, not being to loud & going in the woods a lot/covering ground you will be fine getting close to & seeing animals. Some of these critters including the deer & bear are often drawn to sound so one could even say making the right noise helps, I've drawn in a number of deer over the years just making noise or getting something out if my pack & there it is peeking at me from 20 yards away, really my dudes just go out there & go slow you will be fine you don't need to do most of the thing's I've seen in a lot of these videos. But this video is gold.
In my backpacking/hiking encounters the deer would always hang out for a moment or walk a little closer then leave but one thing that DOES work is a fawn/doe call to bring them back. Once the deer pops out of sight hit that call a few times & so far it will bring them back for another look.
Hope this helps! Don't fret the small stuff too much you will see nearly the same amount of deer just walking through the woods as the guy spending tons of cash soaked in deer piss moving at a snails pace.
Most of what you said it true, but there is a difference in being able to see an animal and being able to harvest an animal. In most bow hunting situations they have to get within 30 yards and not be alerted by your movement. Which for most people means being in a blind or up in a tree. I see deer all the time when walking my dog, but normally they are crossing the trail or you just see a white tail and hooves, neither of which I'd be able to take a shot at in a hunting situation.
@@charlessherman7335 agreed. In addition, there's a difference between the tolerance level of a young deer and a mature deer.
All true statements. I have seen some videos and podcasts talking about the possibility of pheromones playing a role in what the deer do when they smell us. It's been proven that animals, including us, give off different pheromones depending on mood. So the theories researchs/hunters are trying figure out is what types we give off when we're in a "hunting mood" or "predator state" vs in a "joyful hike state". It will be interesting to see what people come up with to test this in the future.
Glad to see seek one back
Awesome vid and edits and filming and idea and products and dog and test. Thanks for being in the police department.
This was awesome!
Really cool, thanks for the video
I think scent control is like wearing camouflage while deer hunting. It’s more of a mental/confidence situation. Neither are necessary hunting deer. If you are a good hunter you KNOW what works. And it’s not scent sprays and fancy camo. If you hunt the wind and use proper techniques you can wear a pink dress and some of your dads Brute cologne and still kill deer. JS
Hunt the wind...the end!
Yeah, people forget the Whitetail was almost hunted to extinction by guys wearing plaid wool jackets, with brass framed 44-40s, smoking cigarettes!
Biggest thing is not letting them know something is afoot so they start trying to counter your wind strategies and low hunting pressure. I've been within 4' of a does in turkey season, several times, with no scent cover, but she couldn't see me and didn't care about the scent cause humans aren't a threat in spring.
@@davidmendenhall4090 during rut a few years ago I was hunting in ground level box and an 8 point walked up to box and stuck his nose into my shooting window after I had 5 minutes before sprayed some doe in heat out window as wind was swirling!!!! I could have thumped him on nose! It happened so fast I couldn't record.
@@davidmendenhall4090 dont forget the .30-30! Some say say more deer have been killed with .30-30 than any other rifle. It has been around since 1895!
As Fred Bear said the best camouflage pattern is sit down and be quiet your grandpa hunted deer in a red plaid coat
Best UA-cam channel out there!
Very educational and I agree with Lee that anything that can help should be tried. Also you are in a deers home, your smell is also something new to them. The smell of a tractor or smoke maybe just mean caution and not danger. Play the wind and be safe
Great video!!!
11:07 I was wondering when the payback for the eyeball spray at the beginning was going to happen. LOL
I like how Jeff Sturgis has put it before. Anything that may minimize your scent trail coming and going to and from the stand. Not word for word but along those lines
Awesome video!!! 👍
Back in 2013, I decided to research what is in the most effective scent sprays and I came across a study of a chemist who tested which scent sprays work the best and why. He used live cultured bacteria. Then he published his own DYI formula based on his findings. He demonstrated that his formula actually did kill the germs that cause odor but he also demonstrated that all sprays are limited as far as effectiveness which I think is demonstrated by the dog in your video. This formula was very close to some of the top brand of 2013 as best he could tell. I made his scent spray formula for several years for pennies on the dollar for store bought. If you want to know the formula for the most effective scent spray, I published it on my channel back in 2013 here - ua-cam.com/video/-CTVSGngwsU/v-deo.html - If you don't want to watch the whole thing just go to the 1:12 mark for the formula and take a screen shot. This formula works as well as any scent spray CAN work but the effectiveness is limited by the very nature of scent sprays. Great content guys, thanks for sharing.
Awesome channel, you got a new follower lol
Fun fact: nose jammer used in Central FL will attract BIBLICAL PLAGUE levels of love bugs. (During love bug season of course)
It will ruin your hunt.
Ask me how I know lol
So much fun you guys!
“Goats are like mushrooms, if you shoot a duck I’m scared of toasters” is what he meant to say at the end
I know that meme 😂 have it saved in my phone 😂😂😂😂
Yes i love your videos guys keep up the great work
I love this dog! He is amazing 💖💖💖
The dog is just focusing on Lee’s ground scent well first it’s euphoric recall then it’s groundscent super cool video though
Y’all should have got John eberhart! I heard he had his skin replaced with a scent lock suit.
John eberhart is a scent lock robot sent to us from another universe to sell us scent lock products and he also kills big bucks
Except key areas remain cordura to put up with abrasion.
@@Chalz108 Scenterminator?
@@MrShysterme "key areas" if you know what I mean 😏😉
John eberhart takes it to a whole new level compared to these guys. Only handles the cloths with clean gloves, air tight totes, face mask, etc.. He might not completely fool a deers nose but I believe he does a good enough job to make them believe he isn't close and a threat
That pup is so awesome!!! Wow is he on point.
Cool test and awesome dog and handler.
Excellent demo...yup....best play the wind for mature Deer or you're gooned....well done!
Coupled with the dog handlers opinion about detecting scent versus knowing the source. I believe the more you sent reduce during hunting season and heavily hunted public land, increases your likelihood of having deer sightings. Almost all of my encounters last year was from the downwind direction. I hunt the wind and do scent control. I try to go as fanatical as I can with removing sense not covering it over. It seems that the earlier into the hunts and the more set control prep that I do, coupled with having good win control and a good location, and yes controlling my sound , increases my likelihood of seeing deer. I believe that deer are able to recognize quantity of scent as a form of geolocating, and if a hunter is say in their opinion a quarter or half mile away and One direction stagnant why do they need to move on. Versus heavy sense that puts put some Hunter's proximity closer.
i wish you guys would have tried wearing a scentblocker or scentlok gear and see if that would have worked. i have never believed in the sprays because they give off an odor that i can smell. and if i can smell it..... but the activated carbon in the clothing has me intrigued whether it would have worked. thank you for the time it took for you guys to put this together. definitely debunks the theory
Glad I’m not the only one that’s thought of this
Great Educational video. Props To the police officer for taking time help out with his K9. Seems like there is absolutely no way to get rid of or hide your sent. The deer will just smell you and whatever you spray.
Preciate it gents! Y’all saved me about $70 on pointless scent killers this season. I feel like I owe y’all money for that one!
However, I’m not very smart so if someone could explain the mushroom/duck outro then I’d like to know what I’m missing, lol…seriously tho.
Inside joke that means nothing lol
Love your guys videos
Very impressed thank you
Scent eliminator sprays confuse deer more than anything. My mother and I owned a deer farm for several years before she passed, and the deer were used to our scent. Every time I went to feed or water them while on my way out to the stand, they would be totally confused and suspicious until they heard my voice. Even my pet doe Violet, who was tamer than most dogs, would act very suspicious until I spoke every time I was sprayed down with scent killer. Nose jammer, on the other hand, is completely different. The deer were comfortable with that, but very, very curious. Walking into the pens wearing nose jammer ensured that all the bottle fed does would swarm me, and be a complete annoyance. I suppose it smells like a tasty treat to them.
i’ve had this work multiple times we take the leaves and all the natural plants of the property and boil them and take that water as a spray and ive had success with it
Hunt the wind. I quit the scent killer game years ago. I used to be nuts about it but experience tells the tale.
How he covered the dogs eyes while Lee hid 😂😂
Great idea / vid
Good to see mattis again seen him on tic tok for a while
id love to see this test using scent block stuff with active carbon
I think your hunting conditions is a huge part as well. You guys are are in between houses hunting backyards. The amount of human and other not natural scents is a lot more than hunting 60k acres. As well as how the deer have adapted to living in these areas. Love this episode yall are awesome keep up good job
I use scentlok clothing and scent spray and still get caught by deer. I think it works to a degree by letting less of your scent to reach the deer. Not sure if that's what's really happening, but when I do see deer downwind it does seem that they get closer before they react. Of course that's hard to prove. Interesting test though, that dog is awesome
I’ve had that nose jammer work quite a few times for me!!
Same here. This test is cool but inaccurate.
My hunting mentor explained it to me as simply as this cover scents are still scents! 8-9 months out of the year the deer are walking through the woods never ever smelling Hunter specialties, dead downwind, nose Jammer... Until you come creeping
I only use scent killer to spray my rubber boots down for the walk in, it seems to somewhat work, the few times I haven’t used it I watched deer hit my ground scent and turn around, with scent killer they check it out but keep going or actually follow it
Thank you for spending the time doing this. I loved watching. Good Dog!!!
Great info
Great test was quite entertaining. I kinda see it like, you will always know when your wife or kids buys French fries and eats it in your car. The fries scent no matter how much febreeze was sprayed will still linger and I can still smell both.
Awesome dog!
Need to try this again with the ozonics system. I don’t see how it would work just like “scent eliminators”
Love the dog.
Nice work.
I stopped using cover scents years ago but I think if I’m ground hunt from a blind Ozonics would be the only thing besides wind direction I would use other than that situation in a tree it’s off wind direction all the way and terrain features 👍👍
Beautiful dog so smart I have been working on training my dog hopefully he gets as good as yours....
Wish you guys tried a full Scentlok set up with face and head gear
It would be cool to try this test with you up in a tree stand that has a blind around it. Great video thank you to all who participated. Madix as well. God Bless!
I thought it was extremely enlightening.
21:52 Literally inhuman reflexes. Trainer throws the ball from behind the dog and he notices it hit the box and snatches it up right before it hits the ground.
Great video
Awesome video
The last part about killing me it sounded like a Joe Biden speech 😂😂😂
man you just killed the sales of Sent Keller like 50%