I don't understand why people are complaining. Both players are playing their best characters and what's wrong with that? True Alien is broken but so is grandmaster Sub those ice clones are nasty. Both characters are using their best weapon and what's wrong with that? Both played amazingly and let us just admire that.
Not a big fan of HB, but you guys are being a bit disingenuous I think. I didn't think he was spamming or playing as obnoxious as some of you seem to feel about it. Alien has those moves, the character plays like that. It's not super fair, it does a shit load of dmg even on block, normals have insane reach; that's all true, but that's not HB's fault. If a character has been given a move, then there's nothing wrong with using it. May be that those moves aren't entirely fair or reasonable, but the player using them is not to blame. That's like saying someone shouldn't use down 2 too much. And someone who's as good at the game as HB can't seriously be called a spammer. Sub-Zero has to deal with the full screen acid shit. It's fucked up, but that's how it is. Just like other players have to deal with Sub's corner game. I personally feel like Alien needs to be toned down somewhat, but honestly; I think the game isn't all that balanced. I'm using Goro a lot recently, and he has some match-ups where he does really good, and a lot of match-ups that are just horrible. I don't bitch about it, and I hardly ever complain about someone spamming. I try to figure out how to deal with it the best I can. I think it's fair for someone to spam the acidic moves when the opponent is low on health. They wanna win, right? I get that.
finess bennett I don't really like counter picking, I just pick whoever I want. Besides, I'm not that motivated to learn each and every character in the game.
Before the patch alien had too many advantages against gm subzero. The fact that his tail didn’t freeze and that he had more armored attacks. Considering this madzin did really well Edit: the zoning continues to be an advantage of acidic alien
Alien got too much save stuff and honey bee is playing like a little bitch. Sub is easy to learn but hard to master. So much unsave stuff and exactly at minute 13 HB begins to play like the biggest fucktard in the world xD
this alien character is a broken character. you can take a 5yr old kid, and beat somebody with this pathetic broken character. if he was playing with any other characters, that subzero would dominate him. alien character has unrealistic range, and has a couple easy special moves thats garbage to me. its a wack character
+Yo Fxnky. that's part of being a good fighting game player is not only knowing your character but your opponent .of course you're going to get wrecked if you don't know the first thing about your opponents character
see this is hard for me to choose a side. who is better? madzin obvioudly is showimg more skill in these fights but he still lost? that alien is playing like a pussy but he still ended up winning. in fighting games you do whatever you can to win so honeybee is better right?for winning. but madzin showed more skill rather than just spamming a special like honeybee. idk man they are both good in their own way.
and also people in the comments section are saying "if honeybee wouldnt have spammed madzin wouldve won" and other people are saying "well he didnt win and honeybee won" so is spamming considered a good strategy? some people hate to watch people fighting like pussies but other people will defend it and say that its a good strategy to win.
Acidic is not a good match up for grandmaster sub. Acidic has really good zoning and burn damage and on top of that alien can poke without getting frozen by the clone so we should just realize that madzin is still probably the better player considering that it was extremely close
Arjun Dev are you crazy? Subzero is hard to play man not like alien thats has more spam than him but he still keeps to make us amaze to his moves even its hard for him to fight other like alien and btw you go to hell because youre an atheist
if aliens flip wasn't so safe, he'd be a more balanced character. anyway I'm here to watch madzin so I can learn grandmaster
Same but I’m a few years to late
Sean Noone never too late to learn :)
Madzin is so fucking awesome!
Madzin learned the Acidic matchup appropriately.
I don't understand why people are complaining. Both players are playing their best characters and what's wrong with that? True Alien is broken but so is grandmaster Sub those ice clones are nasty. Both characters are using their best weapon and what's wrong with that? Both played amazingly and let us just admire that.
One player started playing like a pussy, one kept it real.
Grandmaster Sub Zero is not broken in any way lmfao
Not a big fan of HB, but you guys are being a bit disingenuous I think. I didn't think he was spamming or playing as obnoxious as some of you seem to feel about it. Alien has those moves, the character plays like that. It's not super fair, it does a shit load of dmg even on block, normals have insane reach; that's all true, but that's not HB's fault. If a character has been given a move, then there's nothing wrong with using it. May be that those moves aren't entirely fair or reasonable, but the player using them is not to blame. That's like saying someone shouldn't use down 2 too much. And someone who's as good at the game as HB can't seriously be called a spammer. Sub-Zero has to deal with the full screen acid shit. It's fucked up, but that's how it is. Just like other players have to deal with Sub's corner game. I personally feel like Alien needs to be toned down somewhat, but honestly; I think the game isn't all that balanced. I'm using Goro a lot recently, and he has some match-ups where he does really good, and a lot of match-ups that are just horrible. I don't bitch about it, and I hardly ever complain about someone spamming. I try to figure out how to deal with it the best I can. I think it's fair for someone to spam the acidic moves when the opponent is low on health. They wanna win, right? I get that.
alien is a broken character. the end
finess bennett lol yeah you're probably right
And if somebody playing you with alien, and they pretty good. I will advise you to also play them with alien to make it even
finess bennett I don't really like counter picking, I just pick whoever I want. Besides, I'm not that motivated to learn each and every character in the game.
+XaeeD i respect that
Before the patch alien had too many advantages against gm subzero. The fact that his tail didn’t freeze and that he had more armored attacks. Considering this madzin did really well
Edit: the zoning continues to be an advantage of acidic alien
Honeybee kicking ass against the true GM. Good stuff, Bee!
Great! Alien is so fun to play but my favorite variation is Konjurer
my favorite is tarkatan
that acid burns some much you won't notice it until it's too late
Kotal Madzin deserve the upload bro. I was watching the stream yesterday, great fight
Lol at all the people being salty for madzin. Why would you choose acidic and then not use all his tools? Might as well go variationless then.
acidic alien OP as fuck
+Sandy Amdafir tasty salt
When Konjurer alien players start hitting up touurnies with those 40% meterless combos you can hold this L :p
Alien in general is OP af.
+Sgtsmith nobody plays come conjurer :(
+Maiza Laforet Scar plays conjurer, 2nd in NA consistently.
both characters are op lmao
Grandmaster Sub...is overpowered
You're not serious
Sub OP? Gotta be trolling...
+Axel Duarte what is more ridiculous is he names Grandmaster variation as being op
grandmaster sub is a really good character but op? stop being silly you troll
Sesh in the right hands yup, grandmaster is on of the strongest variations in the game and still is today.
Alien got too much save stuff and honey bee is playing like a little bitch.
Sub is easy to learn but hard to master. So much unsave stuff and exactly at minute 13 HB begins to play like the biggest fucktard in the world xD
Is it bad that I like this game better than mk11?
Nope
I bought MK11, played it for only 2 months, went back to MKXL. Never going back (maybe until MK12 or something)
madzine was kicking your butt do
this alien character is a broken character. you can take a 5yr old kid, and beat somebody with this pathetic broken character. if he was playing with any other characters, that subzero would dominate him. alien character has unrealistic range, and has a couple easy special moves thats garbage to me. its a wack character
100% Agree
lol alien is far from a broken character you just don't know his strings and mix-up abilities .adapt
+Evil Butterfly I Really Do Not Care .
+Yo Fxnky. that's part of being a good fighting game player is not only knowing your character but your opponent .of course you're going to get wrecked if you don't know the first thing about your opponents character
+Evil Butterfly Once Again, I Do Not Care About What You Have To Say.
The fucking chip is real
eh....that acid stuff is meh. madzin doing crazy stuff @ 12 min mark
+Marky Mark True true. Acid is just nasty
Im really wondering, when are they going to fix Acidic damage stacks?
Never, because MK11 is a thing nowadays...
@@DontStopMeGaLo they already have
@@t.d.a7881
Wait, really? o_o
What a good match!!!
Play with madzin more
Nice comebacks
How they are playing together? Madzin is from EU and Honey is form USA.Isn't the game region locked?
no
+Clay Wren yes it is actually,i've got an Eu copy and my friend has US,we cant play together-_-
+zex adel i Thinks That His US Account. Because I Played Him The Other Day In A Room & I'm In This US. His EU Psn Is " Madzin " I'm Pretty Sure.
+Yo Fxnky my account is US
+Yo Fxnky Is you're game EU or US?
Love you xenomorhs
lol lame ass acidic. just spray it all the time = profit
Grandmaster isn't lame?
not as lame as acid wouldn't u say? ;)
Agreed. He's just so unbalanced and broken compared to every other character.
fuck madzin freaking subzero good job bee
At the end honeybee was spamming the acid like crazy!
Horrible match-up for sub, must be really annoying for him.
Spamming acid...
nice match
Good to see subzero players getting whooped
Could only do it with a broken character.
sub-zero 😍
🙋🙋🙌🙌Sub-Zero
6:59 is that new???
yes
no
I respect honey bee but madzin is better
Madzin vs mastersubz
HB spamming for the win.
No Noob icon for madzin???
its another account, not his usual account with the name 'Madzin'
Honey ur such a bad bee
see this is hard for me to choose a side. who is better? madzin obvioudly is showimg more skill in these fights but he still lost? that alien is playing like a pussy but he still ended up winning. in fighting games you do whatever you can to win so honeybee is better right?for winning. but madzin showed more skill rather than just spamming a special like honeybee. idk man they are both good in their own way.
and also people in the comments section are saying "if honeybee wouldnt have spammed madzin wouldve won" and other people are saying "well he didnt win and honeybee won" so is spamming considered a good strategy? some people hate to watch people fighting like pussies but other people will defend it and say that its a good strategy to win.
well spam or not he destroyed madzin
Acidic is not a good match up for grandmaster sub. Acidic has really good zoning and burn damage and on top of that alien can poke without getting frozen by the clone so we should just realize that madzin is still probably the better player considering that it was extremely close
#Rekt
DAMN Sub-Zero is USELESS! and the reason Madzin won was becoz it was well it was Madzin's fight style! DX
Arjun Dev are you crazy? Subzero is hard to play man not like alien thats has more spam than him but he still keeps to make us amaze to his moves even its hard for him to fight other like alien and btw you go to hell because youre an atheist
This is pure joy to watch. They should re-title this video "Honeybee shreds clone spamming stoopid ice boy and his followers"
William P. Abraham They should rename you a disrespectful piece of shit.
you know alien is easy to use, when honey bee wins with it