"If you were to face an ancient Sith Lord in combat, you would learn that we are as children playing with toys compared to the powers of the old Masters." - Darth Traya
@@goodmind4940 No. Vitiate was over a thousand years old when he died. He mastered essence transfer and lived in many bodies, but his original form was that of the Sith species.
@@goodmind4940 Actually, in the times of the KOTOR 2 Vitiate was a Sith Emperor ruling the Empire from the Dromund Kass, and Sith return (which become a plot for ToR) to face the Republic once again happen 300 years later.
@@goodmind4940 vitiate was there during Marka ragnos ascension as dark lord of the sith, that's like 700 years before traya i think. Although, i believe traya was talking far way back than those times
@@darthportus still amazing how he could hold his position as the most feared thibg5in the galaxy and be the head and master of the Empire and all it's Sith. But in fact creating bigger and better EMPIRE and not even caring about Republic and Empire war. His only setback was death of his host. But that is why he kept light and dark torn Revan alive. It was all planned long time ago.
Vitiate was actually in fact so weak with the force he barely could produce sith lightning... His stories, like many other ancient sith stories, are heavily exaggerated... The only truly old Republic sith that i believe were as strong as told are nihilus and revan ..... And for that, i hold them as 2 of the most powerful sith ever...
@@harrymurray9702 the first part, the string of slurs, was unnecessary and didn't make sense with the rest of your comment. I do agree this being is one of the most powerful force user in Star Wars history. Tenebrae will never be matched
Well Vitiate, at base, did not want to die. I think they missed that opportunity with him, like Bioware did with Corypheus. He would have been more compelling as a villain if he was rebelling against a fundamental part of the human condition.
Didn't Vitiate need to perform a complicated Sith Ritual to do that? As far as I know Nihilus could just do it at the drop of a hat, or maybe Nihilus' power does it itself and Nihilus has no control over it, kind of like a really lousy trade off for a quick execution.
The Ancient sith are a embarrassment to the modern sith, all Darth Bane needed to get most of his plans going to destroy the brotherhood was a single Revan Holocron and some Lightsaber lessons, if he had gotten to be taught by the Ancient Sith there wouldnt even be a Ro2 he would´ve remade the sith empire.
@@aeriallogan7014 To Bane they were. The Brotherhood and all other Sith before them were stupid enough not to have come up with the Rule of Two before him. Remember, Bane came up with the Rule of Two by not relying wholly upon the Dark Side of the Force, but upon his basic common sense as well. Something so seemingly small and insignificant, yet it allowed Bane to claim the title of Darth and reinvent the Sith into something that would stand the test of time. The Brotherhood of Darkness, like the Jedi Order, would have stagnated and weakened over the centuries, leading Bane to conclude that the Brotherhood were rather unhealthy competition. He tricked Lord Kaan into gathering together all the Sith on Rusaan and making a thought bomb. But the Sith Emperor, Vitiate, would mop up the floor with either Darth Bane or Darth Sidious.
@@Robert_Douglass Therein lies the issue. Many of the greatest Jedi and Sith tempered their force powers, insight and philosophy with mortal reason. One need only look at the examples of effective Sith rulers to see this. Marr, Bane, Marka Ragnos, even Palpatine's success was achieved by him tempering his impulses, pity he let success deprive him of reason.
"My life spans millennia. Legions have risen to test me. You are a blind insect, contemplating the void of space. My ascension is inevitable. A year, a millennium - it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars. Your striving is insignificant. Let your death be the same." The Emperor
i swear this is like a experiment to him and to bioware creators of the story to see how many people they can fool even though they throw the shit right in their faces with evidence to realize hes not dead.
+ Terlin1466 In the form of messages from the various important known force users of the game, like satele shan and marr, which are received after chapter 12, confirming that all force users which was once in contact with him felt his destruction as opposite to what happened when he was only banished
OHH you mean the scenes where she was training jedi. OK yes that thing died. But.. I still say hes not fully dead because we still have not meet the orginal body that other scenes talk about having insane powers we have not seen yet. After all what died what was Valkorian attaching it self to the out lander. Of course everyone in the galaxy felt that death. It was insanely powerful but that was not all of him. He still out there somewhere. Granted if bio ware truly ended his story like that. That is pathetic and show just how much EA has its tentacles in them now. There is unexplained ends here and all fans known it. WHat happen to force ghost revan. He said he had much to do.. What was that? and this is the other. Unless bio ware officially says hes truly dead i will most likely not believe it. They are fools to end it like this however. Just shows how shabby they have gotten i could write a better story then that.
“Look around you. Zakuul is poised to become the greatest civilization in the history of the Galaxy. I have forged this empire to surmount all of my previous works. To span eternity. The Eternal Throne commands a fleet more vast than any ever built. It has the power to reshape the galaxy into any image that I choose. That we choose... I will share all of this with you - if you will only kneel.”
lol i dont remember that line. He will be back thought. Maybe just maybe one day we will meet the dark god Tenebrah. The sith with black eyes that stare right into your soul. The hints are there my friends. Find me a black eyed sith and remember RED to grey skin. Sith appearance and black almond eyes. Then and only then will you have seen the body of a god. a being so terrifying it made even Revan scared. Revan who threw many force users around like ragdolls Revan who never losts 1v1 to anyone includeing your swtor hero as you needed the help of everyone who was powerful force and not to help you. That hero lost to Tenebrah in a 1v1 and it was SOO short of a match indeed. Be afraid very afraid when you meet the real version.
Tenebrae, Darth Vitiate, The Sith Emperror, Valkorion, The Empire builder, the destroyer of Worlds, the Manipulator/Jedi Converter... Almost Power himself. He is many things. Very interesting. One of the if not the Sith Lord who came closest to both crushing the Republic and annihaleting the entire Galaxy. A threat to anyone and everyone. Yet a Lord of the Sith who wasn't consumed by his own hatred also not blindly following a code. Smart, intellectual, Tactician and Strategist. To me he is the most interesting and refined dark character of the Star Wars Galaxy of all those I know. Although limited knowledge I have.
the sith are the most interesting charters in stars. vitiate, bane, palpatine, vader, plaugius, maul and even dooku though a lot of people dont like him i think he was one of the only good things from episode 2
funny thing is he already had the power to do it. BUt for plot sake and interesting character development he didn't care about that anymore. His son however did care about it and completed his father original idea. His daughter just wanted death and destruction because she was torched and only knew pain threw her life. His plan was to cause change and live and he for sure achieved one of those goals. Because hes dead now until needed again.
"I will not be contained. I cannot be redeemed. Death is all that remains, and you will not kill me.... I will not be your trophy. If i must die, i choose how- and everything dies with me" "Remeber me when your alliance burns to ash"
@@gelul12 Hes immortal he can be wounded and hurt but not destroyed. Unlike the light however Tenebrae one with the force is more of a Control over it. The only way he would truly die is to let go which is what he probably does do at some point because he cant seem to hold on to all of the force as its too powerful for even him to control forever. Story wise there a several plot holes in his story line that can hint hes not dead either. His original body for one still exists somewhere and most sith spirits hang around their body's even if they are dead. So his force ghost would be near his at least a portion of it. It is very likely he lost most of his power however as a lot of his power was in the out lander. If they ever did bring him back he would have to consume a lot of power first to pose any threat.
@Terlin1466 You realize that they confirmed that Vitiate/Tenebrae/Valkorion died a final death at the hands of the Alliance Commander, right? He's dead. He's not coming back. Just like Revan cannot come back because he joined with the force, Tenebrae ceased to be an entity in-of itself. The whole story arc of KOTFE and KOTET was meant to illustrate that Tenebrae relied on stolen power, and he was only as powerful as the host he possessed could handle. That's why he wanted the Player Character. It was also revealed earlier that Tenebrae couldn't consume planets with his own accumulated power - he needed an ancient, hyper-advanced technological, force-sensitive AI that would 'buff' his power to do it - which you find out with the finale to the story arc wherein Theron Shan betrays you and turns out to be a double agent on your side. All in all, Vitiate was not as powerful as the original writers at BioWare intended him to be. They intended him to be a black 'stain' on the force, an abyssal aspect that the Force was actively trying to destroy because he was NOT NATURAL in any way, shape or form - just like the Force created the line of the "Chosen Ones" to stop Darth Sidious. Sidious was also not natural, and was considered a corrupting Shadow in the force. Everything to do with Shadow of Revan, KOTFE, KOTET and after makes absolutely no sense and is terrible writing at best. The concept of an Empire with technology far in advancement compared to the Republic and Empire combined was ridiculous, considering that one DARTH MALGUS was constantly crusading in uncharted space (so he would have FOUND the Fallen Empire and reported it to the Dark Council) before he became a traitor to the Empire. In both expansions, they completely retconned or outright disregarded founded lore set by the original writing team before EA liquidised half of their assets. In the Wrath's personal story conclusion, he/she receives mail from The Hand of the Emperor. They reveal that the Emperor's *REAL BODY* (yes, REAL BODY. His original, Pureblood body with its pure black eyes) was being transported to a safer location so that he could recover from his defeat to the Jedi Knight. His battle with the Jedi Knight nearly killed him permanently, along with the death of his Voice (The Voss Dignitary he possessed). Each death significantly weakened him, and his fight with the Jedi Knight nearly vanquished him. We never see his original body. We get Valkorion. Did we see Tenebrae's real form in your character's mind-scape during the final battle? No, we don't. It would have been good had they done that, but they wasted more opportunity. We saw Lord Dramath, his father. Nothing else. It was never stated that Vitiate was a bodiless entity, it was always implied that he needed a host in order to survive. As EU/Legends "canon" dictates that DARK SIDED ENTITIES CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT SOMETHING TO BIND THEMSELVES TO. Only Light Sided entities can do that in the Legends lore. Every powerful Sith Lord in EU/Legends "canon" has had to bind their essence/spirit to something in order to return, otherwise their spirit literally becomes nothing. This includes Vitiate. It was also originally intended that Revan died (for good) on-board the Foundry to the Imperial Strike Team. He was NOT MEANT to come back, his story ended there and the original writers/dev team DID STATE that they wanted to end Revan's story in the vanilla release. They had no intentions of bringing him back. Also, bringing MALGUS back so late into the game is also a huge desperation act, because he was the face of the Empire - one of the poster boys of the game - and was originally intended to have a MUCH BIGGER ROLE in the game's story besides the False Emperor events. In-fact it was even stated that Malgus wasn't meant to be dead, but the writing development of the game went back and forth that they were constantly going, "Yeah he's dead", "No he's alive, just hiding", "No he's dead", "Nah we're shelfing Malgus until we can figure out what to do!", "No he's back in KOTFE as a prisoner!", "Nah, scratch that, we've deleted the footage of carbonite Malgus. We've shelfed him again". See what I mean? Shadow of Revan, KOTFE and KOTET were all desperate ploys for a dying game. And this is coming from someone who has the pre-ordered collectors edition. What a wasted piece of potential for an MMO. TOR is very dead, it's running on a skeleton crew. It barely has 15% of its playerbase left. Most of them aren't even subscribed any more.
@@johnnydavis5896 for the empire he was a merciless emperor that they want dead For the republic he was a monster who bid the war For zakull he was a hero
Man i want all the lore of Tales of the Jedi/KOTOR/SWTOR/ to be canon I dont care what Disney says for me Marka Ragnos, Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma, Revan, Malak, The Exile, Darth Nihilus, Kreia and Vitiate are canon
It will happen bro don't worry :) Soon ownership will be a joke. The independent film makers which know the history will also be CRAVING to begin work if they havnt already.
Bioware truly created a terrifying character. Valkorions charisma and cunning was on another level. I'll always remember when he froze time and offered me the chance to save Lana from being killed by a light saber. I grudgingly chose the light side (for the character) only to see her wounded not killed. I honestly believed Valkorion and thats fucked up. Its then I realized why he is so damn dangerous.
True. Like when he wants you to kneel, he says he'll share his power with you, and he does, literally gives you his power after you kneel. Then he's killed and starts prepping your body as his new vessel. Question is, did he only want your body after he lost his? Or had he already chosen you beforehand? Despite all that, it was still pretty awesome to be trained by Vitiate himself, even if it was only to his advantage. He really does know a lot about the Force, but sharing is not really like him. Plus knowing his backstory makes it pretty clear he's basically pure evil.
MadRazz I know I’m a year late, but I think Valkorion was actually going to either A. Take your body or B. kill you. The player character is a threat to him and has more potential than any form he had ever taken especially if you are a Sith Inquisitor dark sided.
"My life spans millennia. Legions have risen to test me… My ascendance is inevitable. A day, a year, a millennium-it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars. Your striving is insignificant. Let your death be the same." ―The Sith Emperor
I found Tenebrae as one of the best antagonists. The form of Vitiate was powerfull, menacing and cruel. The form of Valkorion was cunning, patient, manipulative and powerfull. It is sad to see the main antagonist of the Old Republic be gone. Will be missed.
or maybe he returned as Snoke. Death cannot contain him. When will he come next? Like seriously do we know how he survived all those deaths? How did he chain himself to Yavin?
He will be back. remember what Doc said. That kira and Scourge dissapeared when valkorion was defeated and they felt something. And you see his Essence Escape at the end.
Palpatine's theme is one of looming menace in the face of a manipulative evil. Vitiate's theme is one of lamenting, crushing despair in the face of an unstoppable evil that does not die.
"And you! A lowly soldier, continuing to serve the corrupt Republic! You are nothing!" "A god has no family." Valkorian was probably the one thing that made the Zakuulian plotline bearable for me.
“The Force tries to resist the callings of ravenous spirits; therefore it must be broken and made a beast of burden. It must be made to answer to one’s will.” -Darth Plagueis
There's just something about Tenebrae | Vitiate | Valkorion that is just so awesome. He's the one villain you love to hate, but are also fascinated by him. Frankly, I'm fascinated with Vitiate, since playing SWTOR. He's such an awesome villain. I love any Old Republic characters, but if I had to choose a favorite villain from the SWTOR era, it's Vitiate. :)
There's so much to do with it, in so, so many eras, so many movies to do. They would litteraly crawling in a big ocean of money if they did, but no, they choose to swipe this.
I’d rather Kathleen keeps her grubby mits far from any of the actually well written female leads of these games. Plus part of what makes the games so great is the Dark Side vs. Light Side choices that the player makes. Stuff that could only reasonably work in the video game medium
That's what all this lockdown business is really about. They're stopping us from leaving because Tenebrae is preparing for Nathema 2: Electric Boogaloo
"Before I graced you with my presence, you were all nothing but motes of filth, drowning in the chaos of the void. And YOU... a HIRED GUN, hunting prey for profit.... I forged you into a being WORTHY of the Eternal Throne! Without me... you're NOTHING."
I played as the Sith before I played as the Jedi. When you face his Voice the first time with Jedi Knight, in the space station, already knowing what he could do, I never laughed so hard at those Jedi's dialogue. Poor fools. Vitiate built 2 empires. His power and knowledge were a product of over a 1000 years of experience. He basically transcended normal life. It became petty to him when he saw the big picture. It's kind of similar to Dr. Manhattan's development from Watchmen. That said, Sidious comes pretty close too and he was only in his 80's. Imagine what he could become with a 1000 year lifespan.
Yuuzhan Vong war if Valkorion had won: Yuuzhan Vong: Muauahaha! We are here to dominate your entire ga- Valkorion: No Yuuzhan Vong: Understandable, have a good day
"My life spans millennia. Legions have risen to test me."-- Former Emperor Vitiate "But in the end, all it took was one pissed off and hungry Dark Lord to destroy you and take your place."-- New Emperor Kallig.
Too bad we don't have renditions of his original form - a sith with eyes as black as a soulless void, who spoke in thousand voices. In Revan's novel, he was pretty terrifying.
The Mask of many faces... Those many faces? Are the faces he controls and manipulates to his own ends. That's the beauty and terror behind it. He even wears them. He could even wear you if you let him... *Shiver*
0:09 " Serat his clamorum" = "he can sow their screams" The tricky part is the "serat" part as a subjunctive 3rd person singular of "serere" = to sow, not sure how the subjunctive exactly translates to english.
The Last Jedi novellization retconned this, saying when she seen into Kylo, she also "seen" into his training, when they became connected, she gained even more of his training and knowledge. She couldn't control it though, things just popped into her head, bits and pieces. Also if you think about the fight scene at the end of TFA, Kylo was just messing around, toying with her, he was cought off guard at the end, happens, remember Maul. If the movie explained this, or at least hinted at it, I suspect, there would be a lot less controversy surrounding her character. Also, she lived as a scavenger for a really long time, had to fight other scavengers and thugs, she was a melee combatant from the start. I kinda have a better idea how this should have been solved. As a child, if she found any "basic trainer" or manuals of Jar"kai, Teräs Käsi, or some Echani unarmed combat, then she could be way above the level she displayed at the end of TFA even without the Force. Is it possible? Yup, martial arts training for self-defence is a thing in Star Wars too, and to find a holovid with basic training sessions is not inconcievable. Even though it was in Legends, there was a master-level Jar'kai warrior in a Clone Wars novel, who could outperform many Jedi knights with his dueling skills. Considering how Rey fights, Echani would make most sense since they train for swords and staves too. This would solve the "untrained" part far better than convenient Force crap. The TFA novel also hinted that she liked to learn all she could as a kid. It would not be a stretch at all!
I don't remember him becoming a sith lord at the age of 13. However, Vitiate was an anomaly among the sith species, his black eyes being a distinct characteristic that hinted to him being exceptionally strong in the force. To this day we have no backstory of Rey or why she is so proficient in the force. She's the main protagonist of new SW and she's completely void of anything interesting and intriguing. A complete waste of screen time.
@Rick Lewis , were you refering as Sidious and Vader, the last two sith lords ? Because the thing is : Kylo Ren, his knights and Snoke are not Sith. They are another type of darkside users. ;)
A man can have anything, if he is willing to sacrifice. With your birth comes a solemn vow: You will have nothing. Your privilege, is the dirt. In the darkness, only ambition will guide you. The oath you swear, the promises you make, they are yours, alone. Your freedom will be the wars you wage. Your birthright, are the losses you suffer. Your entitlement, the pain you endure. And when darkness finds you, you will face it, alone.
Sidious would be dust by the sheer knowledge of Vitiates knowledge of the force. He is immensely powerful in the force. He is a weak duelist though, that is his downfall.
Vitiate is literally a fucking god of the dark side, creating multiple galaxy-spanning empires and turning even the brightest Jedi to the dark. Sidious ruled for, what, 40 years tops?
Peace is a lie there is only passion Through passion I gain strength Through strength I gain power Through power I gain victory Through victory my chains are broken the force shall set me free
L Drago I will miss him, but his death was completing the whole.Kotor cycle, everything must end, His death was well introduced and highly symbolic, and no one say his mark on the galaxy will not.continu to haunt us
L Drago We should have had a chance to consume him, making him only allowed to speak. Sap his power, like the Sith Inquisitor. Too bad we sent him to the void. Imagine this: Valkorian: "A God has no family." Outlander: "Then you'll be a forgotten God, but don't worry, I will be remembered and you will watch while I destroy everything you built and wipe your name from existence."
He was an apex of everything Dark Side represent including total DEATH of everything what lives, so he must be *REMOVED* from it for the future of the galaxy... However I still wonder if there IS possible to truly kill someone who had have enough time to learn secrets of the Dark Side making Palpatine a kindergarten Sith in compare...
What made me feel that this guy was an actual threat is how he made sure to back up every one of his boasts except for at the end when he became delusional in the face of death
Tbh, even then I still suspect he’ll have done something to survive. I mean, he does leave your mind for a while to “attend” to something he never explains. Bet he’ll be back eventually. (Also good to see a new comment lol)
I'm so glad this bastard finally gets what has been coming to him at the end of Knights of the Eternal Throne. I can finally tell Revan that I finished what he started. Tenebrae has been a menace ever since the years before KOTOR took place.
LightStreak567 apparently he didn't die even then, i think he died only around 300-67bby, as his original body was still alive, he's spirit just was really weak and he wasnt able to ever recover. That makes SW universe even scarier
You see his Essence Escape.. remember what Doc said: kira and Scourge dissapeared when valkorion was"killed" because they sensed something.. he will be back. we only killed one of his "voices"
I think Vader would be Lucifer as he is the one who "fell". Darth Traya would be the Sith Prophet (her visions reveal much of the future and her knowledge of the Dark Side is huge). As for who would embody the "God" figure, I don't know. For the Dark Side itself I would say the Son but this is strictly a "Sith" Trinity so I'll have to go with either Darths Bane or Sidious as they are most likely the Sith'ari (literally "Sith God"). I personally think that Sidious was the Sith'ari but others say it was Bane so I guess it is open for interpretation.
@@jakobrenner2230 I'm sure that Vitiate was the Sith Ari. If you read the prophecy carefully you'll realize that Vitiate was the most suitable for that role because of his power and actions.
@@jakobrenner2230 Sidious doesn't make much sense to be the Sith'ari, as he didn't intentionally destroy the Sith and recreate it stronger than before.
@@jaggtepes1997 Vitiate has a strong case, but Bane has been confirmed to be the Sith'ari. He indirectly destroyed the entire Sith Order besides himself and then created a stronger version.
he is described to be a demonic figure even as an infant, and then annihilates billions of people, kills or enslaves anyone he meets including his two different families. How is he not particularly evil? I'd argue along with Sidious, he is the most evil character in the lore.
Tenebrae is now finally dead but it took all the power of the most powerful power users in the galaxy to destroy him and it almost wasn't enough. The hero tython, kira carsen, lord scourge, revan, meetra surik (the exiled from knights of the old republic 2), senya, thexan, arcaan, vaylin, darth maar and satele shan. If he had got his original body back, nobody would have been able to kill him. He was so powerful. Hail Tenebrae the most powerful sith imperator that has ever existed and will be.
@@CyberController- Well it took the most legendary and most powerful jedi and sith that ever existed to destroy him and even that was almost not enough. If tenebrae hadn't made the mistake of concentrating on more than one jedi, he would have a body again and then nothing could have stopped him.
@@CyberController- No you don't, I've already heard that many people compare the scene with the 9 part of Star Wars. This is the greatest bulshit of all time. Rey eventually gets the strength of all the deceased jedi and palpatine dies from his own lightning bolts. Really embarrassing by the way. Tenabre, on the other hand, is fought effectively and personally by the living and the dead. The fact that many dead appear at the end does not mean much or did nothing, it was just dead who wanted to watch tenebrae die. In the end tenabrea dies because of the main character and everyone who fought.
@@zerefdragnell8756 If you read the novelization, that's exactly what kills Palpatine. Rey gets killed by Force Drain, and all the Jedi force ghosts possess her body to fight against Palpatine. She wasn't talking about powers or being metaphorical, she literally was all the Jedi. But that doesn't matter. What matters is that EOO gave us an amazing send off to an amazing villain. And I swear to god, If Bioware brings Tenebrae back one more time......
This theme is very fitting for the Sith Emperor. Very dark and chilling... It's atmosphere is very fitting for a being who consumed the entire life force of an entire planet and had the power to treat even the most powerful force users like they were toys.
Yeah, but as a ruler, Palpatine didn't last long, even if we count the Legends. Palpatine is more powerful, but with all that power he should of been more effective.
Sidious>Vitiate, but Valkorion>Sidious. Sidious can use a force storm, but he will kill himself if he's too close, even without that, Sidious can defeat Valkorion in a hard match, BUT, Valkorion can return as a ghost, and he will have the same power (or little less) than he was alive, and can kill Sidious and return later lol. So, in the end, is a win-win for Valkorion
We never actually saw the full extent of Valkorian's power, ever. We only saw glimpses. A glimpse being his utter mastery of Tutaminis. If that is a glimpse, Valkorian must have much more to counter Sidious in every way.
After his final defeat, Vitiate's soul was imprisoned for eternity in Chaos, being unable to rest in peace even he wished for it. Eventually, he stopped thinking.
How fitting that Vitiate's theme is a variation on the funeral march. I don't know how the story will end with the Alliance, but I'll remember him if or when it burns to ash.
“Serat His Clamorum Tyrannus Ima in Manu Sunt, Vorator Terrarum” Is the first line of the Opera, translating to “The Tyrant will sow their screams. The Devourer of Worlds.”
Whats sad is that his father told his mother to drown tenebrae, but she could not, she loved him too much. And as he grew, he grew colder, hungry for power. He killed his own mother... Its sad for me because she was told to drown him yet she spared him, he did not think twice before ending her existance and admits to Dramath. "I ended mothers suffering long ago."
![Star Wars - Tenebrae, The Dark Lord of Many Faces Theme [Dark Version]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fBfca27PQ3c/mqdefault.jpg)
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"If you were to face an ancient Sith Lord in combat, you would learn that we are as children playing with toys compared to the powers of the old Masters." - Darth Traya
But Traya was before Vitiate?
@@goodmind4940 No. Vitiate was over a thousand years old when he died. He mastered essence transfer and lived in many bodies, but his original form was that of the Sith species.
If the Ancient Sith still existed there wouldnt even be a need for the Sith rules.
@@goodmind4940 Actually, in the times of the KOTOR 2 Vitiate was a Sith Emperor ruling the Empire from the Dromund Kass, and Sith return (which become a plot for ToR) to face the Republic once again happen 300 years later.
@@goodmind4940 vitiate was there during Marka ragnos ascension as dark lord of the sith, that's like 700 years before traya i think. Although, i believe traya was talking far way back than those times
"All those decades of silence... This was your distraction?"
"This was my FOCUS!"
He basically said to Marr that Sith Empire was a failure basically the unfavorite child of two empires.
@@darthportus still amazing how he could hold his position as the most feared thibg5in the galaxy and be the head and master of the Empire and all it's Sith.
But in fact creating bigger and better EMPIRE and not even caring about Republic and Empire war. His only setback was death of his host. But that is why he kept light and dark torn Revan alive.
It was all planned long time ago.
"Everything else a means to an end."
True. The only thing that got him focused back on the Sith Empire was his desire to recruit Revan.
“The future is not a river to carry us; it is the ocean in which drown if we are not prepared.”
- Tenebrae
“When I was born the empire was the emperor. No sith or slave dared to have an opinion about him”
-Lord Scourge, the emperors wrath
"There is no death, there is only the force. And I am its master" ~ Vitiate
Vitiate was actually in fact so weak with the force he barely could produce sith lightning... His stories, like many other ancient sith stories, are heavily exaggerated... The only truly old Republic sith that i believe were as strong as told are nihilus and revan ..... And for that, i hold them as 2 of the most powerful sith ever...
@@harrymurray9702 the first part, the string of slurs, was unnecessary and didn't make sense with the rest of your comment. I do agree this being is one of the most powerful force user in Star Wars history. Tenebrae will never be matched
James Jackson Films obi one said that in battlefront 2
@@tori9365 You literally see what Vitiate is capable of in TOR. He killed an entire world, and that was from beyond the grave.
@@tori9365 Exar Kun be like: Am I a joke to you? lol. No denying that Revan is the best Sith ever, and Nihilus is the very image of all my nightmares
Darth Nihilus consumed worlds to sustain his cursed form. Emperor Vitiate consumed worlds because he wanted to.
Nihilus couldn't control the desire to consume. He's basically a slave to his power. Personification of hunger?
Valkorion hype statements at their finest :)
Well Vitiate, at base, did not want to die. I think they missed that opportunity with him, like Bioware did with Corypheus. He would have been more compelling as a villain if he was rebelling against a fundamental part of the human condition.
@@salvadoroars Exactly. Nihilus was a slave to his power. Vitiate was master of his power. There is the difference.
Didn't Vitiate need to perform a complicated Sith Ritual to do that? As far as I know Nihilus could just do it at the drop of a hat, or maybe Nihilus' power does it itself and Nihilus has no control over it, kind of like a really lousy trade off for a quick execution.
"He was so far above us. No one, Sith or slave, would have dared even form an opinion about him."-Lord Scourge.
The ancient sith are my favorite they wield a power and darkness greater than Disney ever dares to create
@Anonymity Online Agreed. Kylo and Snoke are maggots masquerading as dragons.
The Sith of old wouldn't even care to swat them.
The Ancient sith are a embarrassment to the modern sith, all Darth Bane needed to get most of his plans going to destroy the brotherhood was a single Revan Holocron and some Lightsaber lessons, if he had gotten to be taught by the Ancient Sith there wouldnt even be a Ro2 he would´ve remade the sith empire.
@@sebas8225 the ancient sith weren't embarrassments
@@aeriallogan7014 To Bane they were. The Brotherhood and all other Sith before them were stupid enough not to have come up with the Rule of Two before him. Remember, Bane came up with the Rule of Two by not relying wholly upon the Dark Side of the Force, but upon his basic common sense as well. Something so seemingly small and insignificant, yet it allowed Bane to claim the title of Darth and reinvent the Sith into something that would stand the test of time. The Brotherhood of Darkness, like the Jedi Order, would have stagnated and weakened over the centuries, leading Bane to conclude that the Brotherhood were rather unhealthy competition. He tricked Lord Kaan into gathering together all the Sith on Rusaan and making a thought bomb. But the Sith Emperor, Vitiate, would mop up the floor with either Darth Bane or Darth Sidious.
@@Robert_Douglass Therein lies the issue. Many of the greatest Jedi and Sith tempered their force powers, insight and philosophy with mortal reason.
One need only look at the examples of effective Sith rulers to see this. Marr, Bane, Marka Ragnos, even Palpatine's success was achieved by him tempering his impulses, pity he let success deprive him of reason.
"My life spans millennia. Legions have risen to test me.
You are a blind insect, contemplating the void of space.
My ascension is inevitable. A year, a millennium - it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars.
Your striving is insignificant. Let your death be the same."
The Emperor
i swear this is like a experiment to him and to bioware creators of the story to see how many people they can fool even though they throw the shit right in their faces with evidence to realize hes not dead.
Terlin1466
actually, they spend the after story throwing evidence of his final death, no ambiguity is made on the subject
his final death? after story? sorry i haven't played in awhile i didn't know they added stuff after his defeat inside your head.
+ Terlin1466
In the form of messages from the various important known force users of the game, like satele shan and marr, which are received after chapter 12, confirming that all force users which was once in contact with him felt his destruction as opposite to what happened when he was only banished
OHH you mean the scenes where she was training jedi. OK yes that thing died. But.. I still say hes not fully dead because we still have not meet the orginal body that other scenes talk about having insane powers we have not seen yet. After all what died what was Valkorian attaching it self to the out lander. Of course everyone in the galaxy felt that death. It was insanely powerful but that was not all of him. He still out there somewhere. Granted if bio ware truly ended his story like that. That is pathetic and show just how much EA has its tentacles in them now. There is unexplained ends here and all fans known it. WHat happen to force ghost revan. He said he had much to do.. What was that? and this is the other. Unless bio ware officially says hes truly dead i will most likely not believe it. They are fools to end it like this however. Just shows how shabby they have gotten i could write a better story then that.
“Look around you. Zakuul is poised to become the greatest civilization in the history of the Galaxy. I have forged this empire to surmount all of my previous works. To span eternity. The Eternal Throne commands a fleet more vast than any ever built. It has the power to reshape the galaxy into any image that I choose. That we choose... I will share all of this with you - if you will only kneel.”
It is you who fears death, 'Valkorion'. I do not. I will not kneel.
You would sooner die than acknowledge my superiority?
"Remember me, when your Alliance *burns* to ash."
lol i dont remember that line. He will be back thought. Maybe just maybe one day we will meet the dark god Tenebrah. The sith with black eyes that stare right into your soul. The hints are there my friends. Find me a black eyed sith and remember RED to grey skin. Sith appearance and black almond eyes. Then and only then will you have seen the body of a god. a being so terrifying it made even Revan scared. Revan who threw many force users around like ragdolls Revan who never losts 1v1 to anyone includeing your swtor hero as you needed the help of everyone who was powerful force and not to help you. That hero lost to Tenebrah in a 1v1 and it was SOO short of a match indeed. Be afraid very afraid when you meet the real version.
"You presume limits to my power... There are none."
Tenebrae, Darth Vitiate, The Sith Emperror, Valkorion, The Empire builder, the destroyer of Worlds, the Manipulator/Jedi Converter...
Almost Power himself.
He is many things. Very interesting.
One of the if not the Sith Lord who came closest to both crushing the Republic and annihaleting the entire Galaxy.
A threat to anyone and everyone.
Yet a Lord of the Sith who wasn't consumed by his own hatred also not blindly following a code.
Smart, intellectual, Tactician and Strategist.
To me he is the most interesting and refined dark character of the Star Wars Galaxy of all those I know.
Although limited knowledge I have.
you comment is perfect, i agree, but Palpatine is a great character too, a great sith, the personification of the dark side for me
the sith are the most interesting charters in stars. vitiate, bane, palpatine, vader, plaugius, maul and even dooku though a lot of people dont like him i think he was one of the only good things from episode 2
funny thing is he already had the power to do it. BUt for plot sake and interesting character development he didn't care about that anymore. His son however did care about it and completed his father original idea. His daughter just wanted death and destruction because she was torched and only knew pain threw her life. His plan was to cause change and live and he for sure achieved one of those goals. Because hes dead now until needed again.
The real planet destroyer is nihilus but ur right he can destroy planets too
That's why all Sith aspired to be him he was never consumed by his emotions but he commanded the power of the dark side.
"I will not be contained. I cannot be redeemed. Death is all that remains, and you will not kill me.... I will not be your trophy. If i must die, i choose how- and everything dies with me"
"Remeber me when your alliance burns to ash"
He still lives.
gelul12 bet
@@gelul12 Hes immortal he can be wounded and hurt but not destroyed. Unlike the light however Tenebrae one with the force is more of a Control over it. The only way he would truly die is to let go which is what he probably does do at some point because he cant seem to hold on to all of the force as its too powerful for even him to control forever. Story wise there a several plot holes in his story line that can hint hes not dead either. His original body for one still exists somewhere and most sith spirits hang around their body's even if they are dead. So his force ghost would be near his at least a portion of it. It is very likely he lost most of his power however as a lot of his power was in the out lander. If they ever did bring him back he would have to consume a lot of power first to pose any threat.
@Terlin1466
You realize that they confirmed that Vitiate/Tenebrae/Valkorion died a final death at the hands of the Alliance Commander, right? He's dead. He's not coming back. Just like Revan cannot come back because he joined with the force, Tenebrae ceased to be an entity in-of itself. The whole story arc of KOTFE and KOTET was meant to illustrate that Tenebrae relied on stolen power, and he was only as powerful as the host he possessed could handle. That's why he wanted the Player Character. It was also revealed earlier that Tenebrae couldn't consume planets with his own accumulated power - he needed an ancient, hyper-advanced technological, force-sensitive AI that would 'buff' his power to do it - which you find out with the finale to the story arc wherein Theron Shan betrays you and turns out to be a double agent on your side.
All in all, Vitiate was not as powerful as the original writers at BioWare intended him to be. They intended him to be a black 'stain' on the force, an abyssal aspect that the Force was actively trying to destroy because he was NOT NATURAL in any way, shape or form - just like the Force created the line of the "Chosen Ones" to stop Darth Sidious. Sidious was also not natural, and was considered a corrupting Shadow in the force. Everything to do with Shadow of Revan, KOTFE, KOTET and after makes absolutely no sense and is terrible writing at best. The concept of an Empire with technology far in advancement compared to the Republic and Empire combined was ridiculous, considering that one DARTH MALGUS was constantly crusading in uncharted space (so he would have FOUND the Fallen Empire and reported it to the Dark Council) before he became a traitor to the Empire.
In both expansions, they completely retconned or outright disregarded founded lore set by the original writing team before EA liquidised half of their assets. In the Wrath's personal story conclusion, he/she receives mail from The Hand of the Emperor. They reveal that the Emperor's *REAL BODY* (yes, REAL BODY. His original, Pureblood body with its pure black eyes) was being transported to a safer location so that he could recover from his defeat to the Jedi Knight. His battle with the Jedi Knight nearly killed him permanently, along with the death of his Voice (The Voss Dignitary he possessed). Each death significantly weakened him, and his fight with the Jedi Knight nearly vanquished him. We never see his original body. We get Valkorion. Did we see Tenebrae's real form in your character's mind-scape during the final battle? No, we don't. It would have been good had they done that, but they wasted more opportunity. We saw Lord Dramath, his father. Nothing else. It was never stated that Vitiate was a bodiless entity, it was always implied that he needed a host in order to survive. As EU/Legends "canon" dictates that DARK SIDED ENTITIES CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT SOMETHING TO BIND THEMSELVES TO. Only Light Sided entities can do that in the Legends lore. Every powerful Sith Lord in EU/Legends "canon" has had to bind their essence/spirit to something in order to return, otherwise their spirit literally becomes nothing. This includes Vitiate.
It was also originally intended that Revan died (for good) on-board the Foundry to the Imperial Strike Team. He was NOT MEANT to come back, his story ended there and the original writers/dev team DID STATE that they wanted to end Revan's story in the vanilla release. They had no intentions of bringing him back. Also, bringing MALGUS back so late into the game is also a huge desperation act, because he was the face of the Empire - one of the poster boys of the game - and was originally intended to have a MUCH BIGGER ROLE in the game's story besides the False Emperor events. In-fact it was even stated that Malgus wasn't meant to be dead, but the writing development of the game went back and forth that they were constantly going, "Yeah he's dead", "No he's alive, just hiding", "No he's dead", "Nah we're shelfing Malgus until we can figure out what to do!", "No he's back in KOTFE as a prisoner!", "Nah, scratch that, we've deleted the footage of carbonite Malgus. We've shelfed him again". See what I mean?
Shadow of Revan, KOTFE and KOTET were all desperate ploys for a dying game. And this is coming from someone who has the pre-ordered collectors edition. What a wasted piece of potential for an MMO. TOR is very dead, it's running on a skeleton crew. It barely has 15% of its playerbase left. Most of them aren't even subscribed any more.
@@narky5071 hot damn dog you went ham
"Everything has a cost. This is the price of immortality"
To some, he was a genocidal maniac, to others, he was a hero that brought peace and stability
Or just a badass vilain like we like them
Peace through life be eliminated? What kind of peace is that?
@@johnnydavis5896 Absolut and ethernal piece my friend.
"You presume limits to my power.
There are none."
@@johnnydavis5896 for the empire he was a merciless emperor that they want dead
For the republic he was a monster who bid the war
For zakull he was a hero
At the end, there would be no one to hate him as villain. Or to praise him as hero if his plan had not been stopped.
Man i want all the lore of Tales of the Jedi/KOTOR/SWTOR/ to be canon
I dont care what Disney says for me Marka Ragnos, Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma, Revan, Malak, The Exile, Darth Nihilus, Kreia and Vitiate are canon
It will happen bro don't worry :) Soon ownership will be a joke. The independent film makers which know the history will also be CRAVING to begin work if they havnt already.
I don't see Malgus here
It is already canon. But not in fake Disney's reality.
They are even better Than the "Canon" siths in my opinion. When I think of Star Wars, those are the names and eras that come to my mind.
What about Sion, Bane, Zannah, along with the EU's Krayt? What about the Yhuuzan Vong? Not to mention, RIP Naga Sadow, Ludo Kressh, and Darth Andeddu.
Bioware truly created a terrifying character. Valkorions charisma and cunning was on another level. I'll always remember when he froze time and offered me the chance to save Lana from being killed by a light saber. I grudgingly chose the light side (for the character) only to see her wounded not killed.
I honestly believed Valkorion and thats fucked up. Its then I realized why he is so damn dangerous.
True. Like when he wants you to kneel, he says he'll share his power with you, and he does, literally gives you his power after you kneel. Then he's killed and starts prepping your body as his new vessel. Question is, did he only want your body after he lost his? Or had he already chosen you beforehand? Despite all that, it was still pretty awesome to be trained by Vitiate himself, even if it was only to his advantage. He really does know a lot about the Force, but sharing is not really like him. Plus knowing his backstory makes it pretty clear he's basically pure evil.
MadRazz I know I’m a year late, but I think Valkorion was actually going to either A. Take your body or B. kill you. The player character is a threat to him and has more potential than any form he had ever taken especially if you are a Sith Inquisitor dark sided.
@@JacobTD don't discount light side inquisitor, since absorbing the darkness from ghosts does give you some power too since you are still sith
@@a1z158 But not full power as the Dark side inquisitor will get
@@EeniThesian66 oh yeah, no question-though I would question if it would be safe to have ghosts imprisoned in your head along with valkorian
"My life spans millennia. Legions have risen to test me… My ascendance is inevitable. A day, a year, a millennium-it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars. Your striving is insignificant. Let your death be the same."
―The Sith Emperor
So wholesome
I found Tenebrae as one of the best antagonists. The form of Vitiate was powerfull, menacing and cruel. The form of Valkorion was cunning, patient, manipulative and powerfull. It is sad to see the main antagonist of the Old Republic be gone. Will be missed.
He had to be gone, for the movies to happen. ;)
or maybe he returned as Snoke. Death cannot contain him. When will he come next? Like seriously do we know how he survived all those deaths? How did he chain himself to Yavin?
+T. Actually, this game isn't part of the Disnay Star Wars EU. They could bring him back and use him however they want.
He will be back. remember what Doc said. That kira and Scourge dissapeared when valkorion was defeated and they felt something. And you see his Essence Escape at the end.
He is still out there somewhere waiting for the opportune moment to rise and strike back of those puny jedi
~You pressume limits to my power, there are none.~
- Emperor Valkorion.
I play this before getting into the bathtub. It always feels like I'm taking a bath in an evil coctail of souls to make myself immortal.
I might start doing this thanks for the idea
I'm going to have to do that now.
Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorian had one of the best voices in SWTOR
probably get instantly eaten
I can mimic that voice
Valkorian was an amazing performance, I thought Vitiate's voice was simply sufficient.
*and I can DO THAT VOICE*
in Star Wars*
Palpatine's theme is one of looming menace in the face of a manipulative evil.
Vitiate's theme is one of lamenting, crushing despair in the face of an unstoppable evil that does not die.
somehow, vitiate returned
"And you! A lowly soldier, continuing to serve the corrupt Republic! You are nothing!"
"A god has no family."
Valkorian was probably the one thing that made the Zakuulian plotline bearable for me.
So you don t join the dark side
So you will death
you trying to say something?
To me it was perfect if you are a inquisitor
He is the masterpiece of Star wars history for me, the only sith so tempered and patient to wait milenia for his plans to work. magnificent.
@@saltymate9104 To be fair the Ro2 sith before Darth Venemous and his sucessors were patient as hell.
“You mistake me for your own weak flesh. I do NOT end.”
-Tenebrae
That ending dialogue was perfect! He was a great Star Wars villain!
"A god has no family."
"Remember me, when your Alliance burns to ash..."
Luke724 was, and ever continues to be
Yes, He is a really great villian but I think Darth Sidious is best.
Luke724 Yeah. Vitiate, Darth Malgus, Darth Revan and Darth Nox are the greatest Sith of the Old Republic (In my personal opinion).
Im not sure if this is Latin, but if it is...
0:13 "His clamor..." means their screams
0:23 "Tirano" means tyrant
1:55 "Vorator" means devourer
Here's part II (from 1:45 to 2:05):
Ima in manu sunt. Vorator terrarum. -> The most inferior are in his hand. Devourer of worlds.
fascinating, are you able to decipher the complete first phrase?
you are awesome
For years now I've been trying to find the text to it, thanks for a part of it
A good use of my language’s great-grandmother^3. Latin is basically one of the easiest scariest linguals to use for anything this awesome.
“The Force tries to resist the callings of ravenous spirits; therefore it must be broken and made a beast of burden. It must be made to answer to one’s will.”
-Darth Plagueis
"A god has no family."
Ouch, even if true that was a bit blunt.
Jay Seyton "He is immortal but not invulnerable."
Who needs a family, when you have god-like powers? Powers to crush all your foes to atoms...
A "god" doesnt exist... But everyone and everything that lives has a "family" ... 💩
@@tori9365 Prove God doesn't exist? No life can exist without God. No science or theory can quantify or justify existence.
There's just something about Tenebrae | Vitiate | Valkorion that is just so awesome. He's the one villain you love to hate, but are also fascinated by him. Frankly, I'm fascinated with Vitiate, since playing SWTOR. He's such an awesome villain. I love any Old Republic characters, but if I had to choose a favorite villain from the SWTOR era, it's Vitiate. :)
"Everything comes to an end, you are no different"
- Darth Nox moments before she destroys Tenebrae.
We need movies from Old Republics era so much...
There's so much to do with it, in so, so many eras, so many movies to do. They would litteraly crawling in a big ocean of money if they did, but no, they choose to swipe this.
not while Krazy Kathleen Kennedy and her ilk have ther hands on it.
NOOOO!! do NOT let disney NEAR the old republic era! no no NOOOO
I’d rather Kathleen keeps her grubby mits far from any of the actually well written female leads of these games. Plus part of what makes the games so great is the Dark Side vs. Light Side choices that the player makes. Stuff that could only reasonably work in the video game medium
It has begun.
Sidious: Im the most powerful sith in history!
Darth Plaguies: No, I am!
Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion: *Funny*
Valkorion: Fascinating
“You have forgotten what it is like to stand on the brink of death, I am here to remind you
of that”.
Everyone: finally, 2020 is over, can’t wait for the good in 2021.
2021: (valkorion returns)
Everyone: (screams in terror)
tenebrae returned, not valkorion
@@aeriallogan7014 both returned
That's what all this lockdown business is really about. They're stopping us from leaving because Tenebrae is preparing for Nathema 2: Electric Boogaloo
"Tenebrae, Vitiate, Vlakorion. Emperor of the Sith. My low-born son has worn many masks. He is immortal, but not invulnerable."
"Before I graced you with my presence, you were all nothing but motes of filth, drowning in the chaos of the void. And YOU... a HIRED GUN, hunting prey for profit.... I forged you into a being WORTHY of the Eternal Throne! Without me... you're NOTHING."
Thank you for extending this, my favourite track in all of KOTET.
You're welcome bro! This is my favorite theme as well!
"I have the will of stars and the patience of stone." - Valkorion
"I have mojo baby, yeah!" - Me
and mutated sea bass with lasers
If Valkorian wasn’t stopped, he would’ve absorbed all the life in the galaxy. I can’t imagine how powerful he’d be after that.
I wonder what those pesky little force immune brats would do in the closest galaxy to the star wars one.
“There is no death, there is only the Force. And I am it’s Master.”
I played as the Sith before I played as the Jedi. When you face his Voice the first time with Jedi Knight, in the space station, already knowing what he could do, I never laughed so hard at those Jedi's dialogue. Poor fools. Vitiate built 2 empires. His power and knowledge were a product of over a 1000 years of experience. He basically transcended normal life. It became petty to him when he saw the big picture. It's kind of similar to Dr. Manhattan's development from Watchmen. That said, Sidious comes pretty close too and he was only in his 80's. Imagine what he could become with a 1000 year lifespan.
There has never been a purer expression of the Sith than Emperor Vitiate. He was the unbridled thirst for power made manifest.
"Palpatine? Oh, sure, that cute innocent boy."
Vitiate
"He copies me so much, must be a fanboy"
Valkorion
"Vitiate, the guy that with 2 empires didn't rule the galaxy? Oh sure, that cute innocent boy"
Palpatine
@@mr.ditkovich6379 Valkorion's plan wasn't to rule the galaxy, though. He wanted everything to be destroyed, not rule it
@@Kaxaiak Rule or not, George Lucas said Darth Sidious is the most powerful sith when SWTOR was canon
@Jairugar Same as Sidious if you count legends too 🙄
"I hold the patience of Stones and the will of the Stars"
:)
This music makes me want to sit on a throne and cackle evilly before making an epic speech to a hero type.
I am not fit to rule... I never was. Claim the throne, Commander. You have earned it.
I still get goosebumps seeing him devour the entire world of Ziost.
Yuuzhan Vong war if Valkorion had won:
Yuuzhan Vong: Muauahaha! We are here to dominate your entire ga-
Valkorion: No
Yuuzhan Vong: Understandable, have a good day
"My life spans millennia. Legions have risen to test me."-- Former Emperor Vitiate
"But in the end, all it took was one pissed off and hungry Dark Lord to destroy you and take your place."-- New Emperor Kallig.
Long live Emperor/Empress Nox
AgentSmithXD It's very likely that Nox turned into the new Sith Emperor.
And his ex family , and the holocron of his father
He aint dead.
Sidious: I am the most powerful Sith.
Vitiate: Hold my Force Storm.
According to George Lucas, Sidious is the most powerful.
@@troyandrade615 i think that only Mortis Gods and Anakin at full Power could be more powerful.
Palpatine Is smarter
Sidious : " consumes his force storm with his own , larger , more powerful one "
TENEBRAE! Join me in dead !
~Lord Dramath
:)
Dude, that voice line at the end scared the shit out of me.
"You are master of nothing." a really great talk.
Too bad we don't have renditions of his original form - a sith with eyes as black as a soulless void, who spoke in thousand voices. In Revan's novel, he was pretty terrifying.
technically his original form was a pureblood bastard born to a maid who had an affair with a sith lord.
Well looks like we'll get👀
We do now. We didn't get to see his true original form as much but at least we finally got to see it. It stood true to the book.
"And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing..."
Tenebrae means darkness in Latin. How fitting
The Mask of many faces... Those many faces? Are the faces he controls and manipulates to his own ends. That's the beauty and terror behind it. He even wears them. He could even wear you if you let him... *Shiver*
“There are some rituals of the Dark Side that are better left forgotten...”
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity Don’t forget Marka Ragnos
0:09 " Serat his clamorum" = "he can sow their screams"
The tricky part is the "serat" part as a subjunctive 3rd person singular of
"serere" = to sow, not sure how the subjunctive exactly translates to
english.
The ONLY person to become a Sith Lord at the age of 13!
And people say that Rey is too OP.
The Last Jedi novellization retconned this, saying when she seen into Kylo, she also "seen" into his training, when they became connected, she gained even more of his training and knowledge. She couldn't control it though, things just popped into her head, bits and pieces. Also if you think about the fight scene at the end of TFA, Kylo was just messing around, toying with her, he was cought off guard at the end, happens, remember Maul. If the movie explained this, or at least hinted at it, I suspect, there would be a lot less controversy surrounding her character. Also, she lived as a scavenger for a really long time, had to fight other scavengers and thugs, she was a melee combatant from the start.
I kinda have a better idea how this should have been solved. As a child, if she found any "basic trainer" or manuals of Jar"kai, Teräs Käsi, or some Echani unarmed combat, then she could be way above the level she displayed at the end of TFA even without the Force. Is it possible? Yup, martial arts training for self-defence is a thing in Star Wars too, and to find a holovid with basic training sessions is not inconcievable. Even though it was in Legends, there was a master-level Jar'kai warrior in a Clone Wars novel, who could outperform many Jedi knights with his dueling skills. Considering how Rey fights, Echani would make most sense since they train for swords and staves too. This would solve the "untrained" part far better than convenient Force crap. The TFA novel also hinted that she liked to learn all she could as a kid. It would not be a stretch at all!
I don't remember him becoming a sith lord at the age of 13. However, Vitiate was an anomaly among the sith species, his black eyes being a distinct characteristic that hinted to him being exceptionally strong in the force. To this day we have no backstory of Rey or why she is so proficient in the force. She's the main protagonist of new SW and she's completely void of anything interesting and intriguing. A complete waste of screen time.
@Rick Lewis , were you refering as Sidious and Vader, the last two sith lords ? Because the thing is : Kylo Ren, his knights and Snoke are not Sith. They are another type of darkside users. ;)
@@HallimarRathlornStudios Wait, so the true moral of Star Wars would be that "it was better before" !? xD
Nooo... x)
@IamKingOfHearts It's stupid and it serves only to favor Johnson's need to subvert expectation. Fuck that soy soaked fool
Really awesome bro the music sounds so dark
Thanks for watching man!
A man can have anything, if he is willing to sacrifice.
With your birth comes a solemn vow:
You will have nothing.
Your privilege, is the dirt.
In the darkness, only ambition will guide you.
The oath you swear, the promises you make, they are yours, alone.
Your freedom will be the wars you wage.
Your birthright, are the losses you suffer.
Your entitlement, the pain you endure.
And when darkness finds you, you will face it, alone.
Wo
Vitiate vs Sidious would be an epic battle
Sidious would be dust by the sheer knowledge of Vitiates knowledge of the force. He is immensely powerful in the force. He is a weak duelist though, that is his downfall.
Vitiate ez win
Vitiate is literally a fucking god of the dark side, creating multiple galaxy-spanning empires and turning even the brightest Jedi to the dark. Sidious ruled for, what, 40 years tops?
probably sidious is vitiate
@@giuseppepapaleo3030 He's not.
Listening late at night and there's lightning, thunder, and rain also quite loud. Couldn't be more fitting.
Sounds just like Dromund Kaas. Sith dreams friend!
Valkorion is the most powerfull "person" in STAR WARS
Öziboy TV except luke skywalker
And Abeloth.
Tealion Wolfheart abeloth is more of an entity than a person i think
and Sidious -from The Dark Empire comics anyways.
Except from the celestial beings
Peace is a lie there is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken the force shall set me free
he had so many good quotes why kill him :(
L Drago
I will miss him, but his death was completing the whole.Kotor cycle, everything must end, His death was well introduced and highly symbolic, and no one say his mark on the galaxy will not.continu to haunt us
Maybe a Force Ghost in a Canon story for that matter?
One word.
Snoke....
L Drago We should have had a chance to consume him, making him only allowed to speak. Sap his power, like the Sith Inquisitor. Too bad we sent him to the void. Imagine this:
Valkorian: "A God has no family."
Outlander: "Then you'll be a forgotten God, but don't worry, I will
be remembered and you will watch while I destroy everything you built and wipe your name from existence."
He was an apex of everything Dark Side represent including total DEATH of everything what lives, so he must be *REMOVED* from it for the future of the galaxy...
However I still wonder if there IS possible to truly kill someone who had have enough time to learn secrets of the Dark Side making Palpatine a kindergarten Sith in compare...
Based on the picture at 8:40, I think Russell Crowe should be Tenebrae. Like if you agree!
Tom Hardy you’re a big guy
Tom Hardy Definitely. He’d just need cool armour and some contact lenses, and you’d have Valkorian.
I feel like he was way more self centered and plain evil than Palpatine could ever be.
Amazing theme! Love your pic choices!
Revan and Malak disappeared...Whatever they found out there, changed them.
They found god and converted to his cause.
Kneel before the Dragon of Zakuul.
Long life to the Eternal Empire!
"Remember me... when your Alliance burns to *ash*..."
This music gives me goosebumps every times
What made me feel that this guy was an actual threat is how he made sure to back up every one of his boasts except for at the end when he became delusional in the face of death
Tbh, even then I still suspect he’ll have done something to survive. I mean, he does leave your mind for a while to “attend” to something he never explains. Bet he’ll be back eventually. (Also good to see a new comment lol)
I'm so glad this bastard finally gets what has been coming to him at the end of Knights of the Eternal Throne. I can finally tell Revan that I finished what he started. Tenebrae has been a menace ever since the years before KOTOR took place.
LightStreak567 apparently he didn't die even then, i think he died only around 300-67bby, as his original body was still alive, he's spirit just was really weak and he wasnt able to ever recover. That makes SW universe even scarier
You see his Essence Escape.. remember what Doc said: kira and Scourge dissapeared when valkorion was"killed" because they sensed something.. he will be back. we only killed one of his "voices"
A man can have anything, if he is willing to sacrifice.
We need a movie if this force of galactic nature. The music alone is like an ancient March of dark will.
Star Wars Sith Trinity
Palpatine : Sith Emperor
Vitiate : Sith God
Nihilus : Sith Antichrist/Lucifer
I think Vader would be Lucifer as he is the one who "fell". Darth Traya would be the Sith Prophet (her visions reveal much of the future and her knowledge of the Dark Side is huge). As for who would embody the "God" figure, I don't know. For the Dark Side itself I would say the Son but this is strictly a "Sith" Trinity so I'll have to go with either Darths Bane or Sidious as they are most likely the Sith'ari (literally "Sith God"). I personally think that Sidious was the Sith'ari but others say it was Bane so I guess it is open for interpretation.
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@@jakobrenner2230 I'm sure that Vitiate was the Sith Ari. If you read the prophecy carefully you'll realize that Vitiate was the most suitable for that role because of his power and actions.
@@jakobrenner2230 Sidious doesn't make much sense to be the Sith'ari, as he didn't intentionally destroy the Sith and recreate it stronger than before.
@@jaggtepes1997 Vitiate has a strong case, but Bane has been confirmed to be the Sith'ari. He indirectly destroyed the entire Sith Order besides himself and then created a stronger version.
I'll miss him; I can only hope I can be half as Evil as he was.
He wasn't particularly evil though. Still an amazing villain though.
he is described to be a demonic figure even as an infant, and then annihilates billions of people, kills or enslaves anyone he meets including his two different families. How is he not particularly evil? I'd argue along with Sidious, he is the most evil character in the lore.
The scary thing is knowing all that and talk to him in game. Seeing him so calm and planning ahead, as he knows, nothing is gonna stop it.
They've butchered the character though. As much as I hate to admit, Valkorion lost all claims to respect after KOTET ending.
TheBozkurtreis Why??
Best character ever.
Love this theme!
A man willing to sacrifice can have anything.
Even though this dude totally stole Revan's thunder, I can't deny he's a pretty cool character.
Oh emperor of many faces: Tenebrae,Vitiate and Valkorian if only they created a book just on you. I would buy it and read it!
Tenebrae is now finally dead but it took all the power of the most powerful power users in the galaxy to destroy him and it almost wasn't enough. The hero tython, kira carsen, lord scourge, revan, meetra surik (the exiled from knights of the old republic 2), senya, thexan, arcaan, vaylin, darth maar and satele shan. If he had got his original body back, nobody would have been able to kill him. He was so powerful. Hail Tenebrae the most powerful sith imperator that has ever existed and will be.
It seems getting together a bunch of force ghosts is the only way to kill Sith emperors these days.
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Well it took the most legendary and most powerful jedi and sith that ever existed to destroy him and even that was almost not enough. If tenebrae hadn't made the mistake of concentrating on more than one jedi, he would have a body again and then nothing could have stopped him.
@@zerefdragnell8756 I was just bringing up how Tenebrae and Palpatine die almost the exact same way.
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No you don't, I've already heard that many people compare the scene with the 9 part of Star Wars. This is the greatest bulshit of all time. Rey eventually gets the strength of all the deceased jedi and palpatine dies from his own lightning bolts. Really embarrassing by the way. Tenabre, on the other hand, is fought effectively and personally by the living and the dead. The fact that many dead appear at the end does not mean much or did nothing, it was just dead who wanted to watch tenebrae die. In the end tenabrea dies because of the main character and everyone who fought.
@@zerefdragnell8756 If you read the novelization, that's exactly what kills Palpatine. Rey gets killed by Force Drain, and all the Jedi force ghosts possess her body to fight against Palpatine. She wasn't talking about powers or being metaphorical, she literally was all the Jedi.
But that doesn't matter. What matters is that EOO gave us an amazing send off to an amazing villain. And I swear to god, If Bioware brings Tenebrae back one more time......
Palpatine is a joke beside him!
It took Kira Carsen, Scourge, Revan, Meetra Surik, Senya, Thexan, Arcaan, Vaylin, Darth Maar and Satele Shan (and you) to take this guy down.
And apparently that was my only at a small portion of his power.
This theme is very fitting for the Sith Emperor. Very dark and chilling... It's atmosphere is very fitting for a being who consumed the entire life force of an entire planet and had the power to treat even the most powerful force users like they were toys.
If they decide to make an Old Republic trilogy, Valkorion better be the main villain
Not sure how that would work since his story is already told and concluded... well "almost" concluded if you know where im going at with 6.0
@@relaxedclaw I mean in canon, if Disney ever decide to make Old Republic movies
i highlt doubt hey bring back vitiate
Sidious wouldn't stand a chance against Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion.
No Vitiate destroyed two and created two galactic empires in his lifetime - not to mention ascending to another plain of existence.
Yeah, but as a ruler, Palpatine didn't last long, even if we count the Legends. Palpatine is more powerful, but with all that power he should of been more effective.
Sidious>Vitiate, but Valkorion>Sidious. Sidious can use a force storm, but he will kill himself if he's too close, even without that, Sidious can defeat Valkorion in a hard match, BUT, Valkorion can return as a ghost, and he will have the same power (or little less) than he was alive, and can kill Sidious and return later lol. So, in the end, is a win-win for Valkorion
We never actually saw the full extent of Valkorian's power, ever. We only saw glimpses. A glimpse being his utter mastery of Tutaminis. If that is a glimpse, Valkorian must have much more to counter Sidious in every way.
Sidious was the senate though
In latin the name "Tenebrae" literally means Darkness
^^
I havent played the old republic yet but this is giving me the chills, both kotor games are still amazing
After his final defeat, Vitiate's soul was imprisoned for eternity in Chaos, being unable to rest in peace even he wished for it. Eventually, he stopped thinking.
Is possibly Vitiate returns in the future?
How fitting that Vitiate's theme is a variation on the funeral march. I don't know how the story will end with the Alliance, but I'll remember him if or when it burns to ash.
“There is no justice there is only revenge”
“Serat His Clamorum Tyrannus Ima in Manu Sunt, Vorator Terrarum”
Is the first line of the Opera, translating to
“The Tyrant will sow their screams. The Devourer of Worlds.”
Very underrated character. Not perfect, but not the steaming pile of shit everybody said he was.
Definitely better than snoke and most of the new villains
@@Hazaroth It is likely that almost every SW Villain is better than Snoke
Grant who said he was shit? >:(
if i was a billionaire, i would choose this as my speaking song to come out and talk with people..just to fuck with em x) lol
Whats sad is that his father told his mother to drown tenebrae, but she could not, she loved him too much. And as he grew, he grew colder, hungry for power. He killed his own mother... Its sad for me because she was told to drown him yet she spared him, he did not think twice before ending her existance and admits to Dramath. "I ended mothers suffering long ago."
This is why Skywalkers kill kids.