Not quite a continuation of the timing side bearing project, but related to it. Removing the flywheel from the crankshaft, I thought it would be like a Norton one with separate webs.
Glad to know I am not the only one who gets halfway into something and then I realise it won't work. Also, great minds think alike, I just mentioned Allen Milyard in this weeks video.
I'm just about to watch Allen's latest video, looking forward to seeing yours soon. I've done a temporary solution to the missing crankshaft problem till I find one (or make one 😉) Thanks for watching Michael, catch up with you soon, Ade.
I appreciate your honesty and very much respect your ability to call your self out when something is not quite right. Good for you. This shows us you are a bloke of high integrity and humility, but that you are confident enough to show us where you went wrong and why and learn from it...the most important aspect.
Well Ade, I like you was convinced it would come out in two parts. I've never seen one of those cranks stripped down. I'm sure you'll come up with something. I still use tools that I bought as an apprentice in the late eighties. Britool and Wurth mainly. I do have some of my Grandad's old Whitworth tools, amongst which are Melco box spanners and Gordon spanners. Great video as usual. Dean in Oxfordshire.
If I had looked at the Roy Bacon restoration book I would have known, but I only got the book yesterday, I did have a copy but I must have sold it after I sold my A65. My dad was mad on tools for his time but woodwork, he had Wolf and Black and decker everything. He passed away in 1970 so I never really got to know him, he would have loved playing in my workshop I'm sure. Often wonder if practical skills can be passed on genetically.
@@AGEngineering I'm sure your Dad would have been in his element in your workshop. There's definitely something passed down, if not the skills then certainly the passion for making and repairing things. I definitely had the interest from an early age. Best wishes, Dean.
when you first explained what you were going to do, I thought it was brilliant idea. I could see your train of thought. But then it all went pear shaped, oh well!. As for the Melco box spanner, I used to know one of the nephews of the Thomas Meldrum family from Sheffield who worked there, and we used to buy a lot of the wheel braces, tyre leavers and axle stands from him. He only lived just down the road from the garage where I worked. Anyway I hope plan B or even C works better, can't wait to here it running.
Great to hear you listening to my nonsensical ramblings, they wouldn't mean anything to a younger generation *coughs*. I have a plan to progress for now with the oil conversion at least. Regards, Ade
Brilliant Ade, just brilliant! I was there with you at the beginning. Hell yes, why not rip it apart and make up some spacers, if the journals line up, all is good. Then you put it in the vice. Now I have the benefit of not trying to do the job and give your wonderful narration at the same time but I thought 'aye-aye, I've seen summit like this before, your going to be disappointed!' Don't remember what it was I took apart or why but it was done the same way. Anyway, looking forward to the next episode, I love that what you do makes me think that if I tried really, really hard, I could just do this myself. Maybe. Its noble of you, and good for the rest of us to see that mistakes in thinking can occur to anybody that actually tries to think of a solution in the first place. Keep up the great work.
Ade, Please advise to the customer that his BSA crankshaft will have to be rebalanced after any machining, Because if you want to widen ANY crankshaft , you will throw any dynamic or lateral factory balancing way out, which could cause catastrophic failure.especially if its almost .375 from one side! A very good Balancer in England is: Chris Applebee. he is on you tube
Good job it's my own project! I would not even consider this on someone else's bike. Keep watching because what may come will throw all the normal logic out of the window 😉
Excellent video. There's no time wasted in learning something. It's engineering experiment and research. And realising that you can't do something one way is just as important and a pathway to realising that it can be done some other way. Can I ask, would a set of Facom box end spanners be of use to you? Even if metric, there are reasonably close sizes to common Whitworth and bsf fasteners.
Carl thanks for the thoughts and comments. I'm just starting to edit the next stage. I do have metric and AF box spanners already thank you, very occasionally they get you out of a mess when nothing else fits, hard to imagine they were the norm before the then very expensive socket sets, how did we cope?
@@AGEngineering I can't imagine. I used to work on British aircraft that were all bsf. On detachment to different countries if I didn't have the correct size in the tool kit I'd have to go to the host country and borrow either a metric or AF near equivalent. So I knew them all. The Facom spanners I mean are these www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.manomano.com%2Fset-of-12-keys-uncorked-pipe-facom-ogv-6-sides-L-703370-2109233_1.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.manomano.co.uk%2Fp%2F75-metric-and-inch-angled-socket-wrench-sets-facom-75j12-ref-75j12-1162525&tbnid=vIUagYkeg0ytVM&vet=1&docid=LxAsi3xGznGwrM&w=624&h=320&itg=1&q=facom%20box%20spanner&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim Any use?
Carl, thank you for your generous offer, but honestly I have so many socket, spanner, tool sets I need to thin them out. I had a whole 3 tier roll cab full from my last job I'm still selling off, I was going to do some boot sales this year, but that plan has been shelved. Many many thanks again, thank you for following the channel again, Ade.
What was it that the Robertson Hare character in "All gas and gaiters" used to say "oh calamity ". You will just have to tell your customer he will have to wait for his conversion. 😉
What if you cut the crank totally in two pieces?That will allow you to make sure that your rods will center with the barrels and allow you to shim the primary side as needed or make a new flywheel to suit.My brain is hurting on someone else's project when I should be thinking about my own.lol.
Honda must have looked at the ancient British engineering and wondered how people were still buying museum pieces. I can imagine Brummies wielding large hammers at Armoury Road, putting this rubbish together and wearing leather aprons. All the technology of a windmill.
In 1947 the Japanese bought BSA motorcycles. Honda had yet to make a motorcycle. In 1960 Meguro copied the BSA A10 under licence, then things changed quickly...
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Glad to know I am not the only one who gets halfway into something and then I realise it won't work. Also, great minds think alike, I just mentioned Allen Milyard in this weeks video.
I'm just about to watch Allen's latest video, looking forward to seeing yours soon. I've done a temporary solution to the missing crankshaft problem till I find one (or make one 😉) Thanks for watching Michael, catch up with you soon, Ade.
I appreciate your honesty and very much respect your ability to call your self out when something is not quite right. Good for you. This shows us you are a bloke of high integrity and humility, but that you are confident enough to show us where you went wrong and why and learn from it...the most important aspect.
Thanks for your comments and support, somthing will turn up,Ade
Very interesting, the blind alleys are just as interesting as the broad highways.
Thanks for watching even the not so successful bits, Ade
Well Ade, I like you was convinced it would come out in two parts. I've never seen one of those cranks stripped down. I'm sure you'll come up with something. I still use tools that I bought as an apprentice in the late eighties. Britool and Wurth mainly. I do have some of my Grandad's old Whitworth tools, amongst which are Melco box spanners and Gordon spanners. Great video as usual. Dean in Oxfordshire.
If I had looked at the Roy Bacon restoration book I would have known, but I only got the book yesterday, I did have a copy but I must have sold it after I sold my A65. My dad was mad on tools for his time but woodwork, he had Wolf and Black and decker everything. He passed away in 1970 so I never really got to know him, he would have loved playing in my workshop I'm sure. Often wonder if practical skills can be passed on genetically.
@@AGEngineering I'm sure your Dad would have been in his element in your workshop. There's definitely something passed down, if not the skills then certainly the passion for making and repairing things. I definitely had the interest from an early age. Best wishes, Dean.
when you first explained what you were going to do, I thought it was brilliant idea. I could see your train of thought. But then it all went pear shaped, oh well!. As for the Melco box spanner, I used to know one of the nephews of the Thomas Meldrum family from Sheffield who worked there, and we used to buy a lot of the wheel braces, tyre leavers and axle stands from him. He only lived just down the road from the garage where I worked. Anyway I hope plan B or even C works better, can't wait to here it running.
Great to hear you listening to my nonsensical ramblings, they wouldn't mean anything to a younger generation *coughs*. I have a plan to progress for now with the oil conversion at least. Regards, Ade
Brilliant Ade, just brilliant! I was there with you at the beginning. Hell yes, why not rip it apart and make up some spacers, if the journals line up, all is good. Then you put it in the vice. Now I have the benefit of not trying to do the job and give your wonderful narration at the same time but I thought 'aye-aye, I've seen summit like this before, your going to be disappointed!' Don't remember what it was I took apart or why but it was done the same way.
Anyway, looking forward to the next episode, I love that what you do makes me think that if I tried really, really hard, I could just do this myself. Maybe. Its noble of you, and good for the rest of us to see that mistakes in thinking can occur to anybody that actually tries to think of a solution in the first place. Keep up the great work.
One thing that did come out of it, the crank is easier to move around for measuring 😉
Ade, Please advise to the customer that his BSA crankshaft will have to be rebalanced after any machining, Because if you want to widen ANY crankshaft , you will throw any dynamic or lateral factory balancing way out, which could cause catastrophic failure.especially if its almost .375 from one side! A very good Balancer in England is: Chris Applebee. he is on you tube
Good job it's my own project! I would not even consider this on someone else's bike. Keep watching because what may come will throw all the normal logic out of the window 😉
@@AGEngineering Weld a bit on the end and just stuff it back in!!!
Good to keep mistakes or when things don't go our way in video's. Shows we are all human. This is a head scratcher. 😎
It'll get sorted one way or another
interesting ,,,reminds me of my youth pulling ancient british bikes to bits ,,,happy days ,:)
I find it very relaxing and enjoyable, escape from the day job kind of thing
Excellent video. There's no time wasted in learning something. It's engineering experiment and research. And realising that you can't do something one way is just as important and a pathway to realising that it can be done some other way.
Can I ask, would a set of Facom box end spanners be of use to you? Even if metric, there are reasonably close sizes to common Whitworth and bsf fasteners.
Carl thanks for the thoughts and comments. I'm just starting to edit the next stage. I do have metric and AF box spanners already thank you, very occasionally they get you out of a mess when nothing else fits, hard to imagine they were the norm before the then very expensive socket sets, how did we cope?
@@AGEngineering I can't imagine. I used to work on British aircraft that were all bsf. On detachment to different countries if I didn't have the correct size in the tool kit I'd have to go to the host country and borrow either a metric or AF near equivalent. So I knew them all. The Facom spanners I mean are these
www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.manomano.com%2Fset-of-12-keys-uncorked-pipe-facom-ogv-6-sides-L-703370-2109233_1.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.manomano.co.uk%2Fp%2F75-metric-and-inch-angled-socket-wrench-sets-facom-75j12-ref-75j12-1162525&tbnid=vIUagYkeg0ytVM&vet=1&docid=LxAsi3xGznGwrM&w=624&h=320&itg=1&q=facom%20box%20spanner&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim
Any use?
Carl, thank you for your generous offer, but honestly I have so many socket, spanner, tool sets I need to thin them out. I had a whole 3 tier roll cab full from my last job I'm still selling off, I was going to do some boot sales this year, but that plan has been shelved. Many many thanks again, thank you for following the channel again, Ade.
@@AGEngineering No problem at all.
that vid reminds me why I don't tinker with engines any more, unless its really easy stuff
Oh they're not that bad, just me doing things the hard way, I should just buy a new Enfield or something.. Thanks for your support, Ade
What was it that the Robertson Hare character in "All gas and gaiters" used to say "oh calamity ".
You will just have to tell your customer he will have to wait for his conversion. 😉
He can wait, I know him well....
@@AGEngineering Don't tell me, you have been fairly good friends since childhood.
What if you cut the crank totally in two pieces?That will allow you to make sure that your rods will center with the barrels and allow you to shim the primary side as needed or make a new flywheel to suit.My brain is hurting on someone else's project when I should be thinking about my own.lol.
Unfortunately the middle flange is too thin to make this work, I have to look at another crank, possibly next week. Thanks for watching 👍
that's torn it,, would the con rods be in line with the pistons? thinking cap back on, Rome was not built in a day.
You're about like me, not sleeping, watching rubbish on UA-cam then wondering why your brain is still ticking over at 3am 💤
If you skim the housing, the cylinders will be too far apart!
It was never going to work. If we weren't on lock down I would be at the autojumbles.
Oh dear!!!!!
It will add to the adventure, a different path maybe
Honda must have looked at the ancient British engineering and wondered how people were still buying museum pieces. I can imagine Brummies wielding large hammers at Armoury Road, putting this rubbish together and wearing leather aprons. All the technology of a windmill.
In 1947 the Japanese bought BSA motorcycles. Honda had yet to make a motorcycle. In 1960 Meguro copied the BSA A10 under licence, then things changed quickly...