BBH Big Boo's Balcony 0xA 33min Strat
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- I collect the star Big Boo's Balcony in BBH using 0 A presses in 33 minutes. Specifically, this strat reduces the total time by 2.5 hours, from 3 hours to half an hour.
Originally, this star was done in 13 hours by raising the scuttlebugs enough to snap them into the bookshelf room ( • BBH Big Boo's Balcony 0xA ). Later, I did it in 3 hours by bouncing on the scuttlebugs and going into a misalignment with the crazy box ( • BBH Big Boo's Balcony ... ). And now, I show an even faster strat, in which I bounce on the scuttlebugs with the crazy box and use a star dance clip to get onto the roof. This strat is similar to the previous strat, except the scuttlebug raising is significantly faster, since it's now done from a single location instead of traveling through doors each iteration.
This video is a follow-up to my previous video in which I showed this strat as a theoretical idea ( • BBH Big Boo's Balcony ... ). The critical issue at the time was that Mario faces towards the camera after the star dance clip, which normally means he'd be facing downhill. Facing downhill causes Mario to enter into a butt slide instead of a stomach slide. Butt slides unavoidably fall off the roof, whereas stomach slides allow Mario to dive as soon as he slides off, letting him get back onto the roof, start frame walking, and get all the way up. So the question became how could we position the camera so that Mario ended up facing uphill on the roof? Ultimately, @brianpso was the one to suggest the solution, which was to land on the roof's non-cardinal edge on the left while having the camera be south-west of it. And so that's what I ended up doing.
Side Note: This is the first time I've used the technique to ascend the mansion lobby's steps 0xA after the steps have already been raised. This was a discovery made by ds273 a year ago ( • SM64 - GLG to BBH 2nd ... ). So thanks to that, I was able to route the 100 coins more efficiently.
Unabridged Version: • BBH Big Boo's Balcony ...
Console Verification: www.twitch.tv/...
So in a sense, we finally got all the scuttlebugs together for one big jamboree.
All jokes aside, you guys are geniuses! Great work! Keep it up!
We got a good ending
That's exactly what I thought too! 🤣
that is a nice reference. also a really good change of pace from the usual "an a press is an a press. You can't say its only a half"
Scuttlebug Jamboree sounds like an amazing name for an annual "0A" conference at some midwest airport Hyatt.
@@generallyunimportant ok TJ """"""Henry"""""" yoshi.
“Instead of taking 12 hours to beat BBH Big Boo’s Balcony, we can do it in 33 minutes”: statement said by the criminally insane.
*"Hello I would like [QPU chart] apples, please"*
They have played us for absolute fools.
STOP DOING ABC CHALLENGE
SUPER MARIO 64 WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE BEATEN WITHOIT JUMPING
@@usernametaken017 QUIET FOOL, us MAD MEN are trying to break video games in the most weirdest and stupid ways. YOU CANT STOP US.
@@usernametaken017 STOP DRINKING MILK, THE MAN WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO DRINK FROM THE COW'S UTTER
I sometimes forget the ABC challenge is still a TAS speedrun and the strats are optimized for time saving.
I think it is especially hard to remember because it never feels like Pannen is competing against someone for the top ranking time. Everyone is working together to solve the problem and most of the time when progress is made, credit is given to multiple people.
@@shufflecat3334yeah the MK TAS comunity is like that, however MK tases are smaller and thus time to do somthing is smaller
I think it's more an issue of, the absurd amount of time it takes for some strats makes it cumbersome to even optimize in the first place. Whenever the whole thing hits zero and gets combined into a full game TAS, having a file that's 300 hours of inputs is just awful to have to work with.
@@FabbrizioPlays 300 hours is honestly low-balling it given some of the strats in ABC.
But yea, if ABC ever does hit 0xA, then the next goal is going to be to get the time as low as possible so you can actually try and show it off by having it all compiled together without it being hundreds of hours long.
@@R8Spike Also part of it is the amount of knowledge in the community. Only a few people actually know enough techniques to work on the ABC, and most of the time they end up specializing on techs. With MK communities, you'll have a fair bit wider community where knowledge can be more easily acquired and contributed to. The most recent MKWii TASBot has 20 direct contributors, while a ABC star will have 6 max and only for really complicated modern techs. ABC is a very different beast
This has been such an amazing year for the ABC!
Mostly just the second half but yeah. More progress in the past 6 months than in the last 4 years
> Adds dozens of hours to LLL
> Removes ~3 hours from BBH
Balanced, as all things should be.
yea
Nice job! In hindsight this looks almost obvious.
annoy when you cant get the channel handle you wanted
@@Mizai I never get my name anywhere, I'm too much of a basic bitch with a boring uncreative name
There's a good reason why this route wasn't possible before.
In "The History of the A Button Challenge - Part 2: The Pannenkoek Revolution" the historian Bismuth mentions that you can only get 101 coins in 0xA presses, later in "The History of the A Button Challenge - Part 4: Tyler Kehne is a Genius" he discusses two new discoveries: a way to get one more red coin on the first floor bringing the 0xA coin count up to 103, as well as a way to reach the second floor during star 1 of Big Boo's Haunt for an extra 23 coins. Unfortunately selecting star 1 means you can't collect the 25 coins from the boos in the Merry-go-round as the boos only appear on subsequent missions, this means that you can't collect enough coins to spawn the 100-coin star during either mission to make up for the missing coins from the crazy box and 3 scuttlebugs.
Later on February 19th 2021, ds273 discovered that you can reach the second floor of the mansion in all missions using a glitchy ledgegrab allowing for 126 coins to be collected making up for the missing coin differential which makes this route possible.
Bismuth hasn't covered this new discovery, but nevertheless his series on the SM64 ABC is super comprehensive and I highly recommend it!
@@violetasuklevska9074 I mean, you ARE replying to bismuth's comment.
@@Lierofox Oh wow! What are the odds?
Normally when you're playing you'd WANT a butt-slide on the roof so you can jump across easier, but here you want the stomach slide in order to dive-recover near the edge. Fascinating!
Breaking news: athlete disqualified from high jump at the Olympics for using three scuttlebugs and a star
Unabridged version of this video is still shorter than the trimmed version of the SotT 0xA vid. That's awesome.
This video gives me hope that even if we reach the point where we can't lower the A press count any more, we'll still always have sick strats for time reduction. Thank you for the amazing content as usual, Pannen and co!
I love how I was watching this and casually thinking: "Yeah, he's doing that scuttlebug rising thing"
Yeah, if it wasn't for his WFRR video I wouldn't understand this at all.
No shit? Every single person who's even heard of this channel has seen that video.
@@arkadyshersky8704 I was just pointing out that it's cool that we can understand it so easily. Calm the fuck down
me when I see VSC or a pedro spot
we finally got the big scuttlebug jamboree we've all been waiting for!
You know it's gonna be good when the first thing he does is scuttlebug transportation
The time saves are such a great thing because it will make the full ABC run easier to consume.
theres some a presses that are days/weeks long lol
@@SputniksArmy easier, not actually still possible
@@catmacopter8545 That sounds like a challenge...
@@catmacopter8545 no one mentioned practicality - it's obvious most of these a-presses are theoretical and TAS's.
I was mentioning this doesn't make it that much easier to consume while there are week long strategies that exist
@@SputniksArmy Plural never has 's
As much as I love seeing a whole A press get removed, I also love these "time save" strats cuz they're often just as much hard work and knowledge of the game
My favorite part is when he said "It's scuttlin' time" and then jamboree'd all over those bugs.
Definitely one of the TAS's ever.
sometimes the time saves are even more impressive then the A button saves. we've come a log way from cloning 40 goombahs to cross a gap
Wow! Landing on the roof's non-cardinal edge may seem obvious in hindsight, but actually it was a really ingenious idea. Great job as always
He did it, he finally got the Scuttlebugs together for one big jamboree.
I never fail to be amused and intrigued when I see a new Pannen video go live.
Crazy to see 2 and a half hours shaved off! Keep up the good work!
I liked the part where Mario went "hooh, hooh, hoo, hooh"
"today, mario will have a panic attack by a door. For half an hour. To avoid manually jumping."
Sure thing my dude!
Nice Era at the End
I knew the second you started collecting blue coins you were going to use the 100-coin star for something
Or, you know, the thumbnail.
Awesome that we got a new time save! Now all we need is BitFS (upcoming) and JRB
After a while, Mario's panting starts to sound like an owl.
You know what would be really cool to have in the final video of the Speedrun? A counter for ALL button presses, including an A = 0 one.
Holy moly it's a scuttlebug jamboree
THE SCUTTLEBUG JAMBOREE IS REAL
Big thanks to Nathaniel Bandy for making these TAS possible.
ain't
ain't you nathaniel b?
every time
Down from 13 hours to 30 minutes, I swear one day a human will do an entire ABC run.
RTABC has already been a thing for several years-unless you meant someone will RTA all 120 stars in which case I present to you Wing Mario over the Rainbow as counter
@@mathphysicsnerd idk man just take up satanic rituals and sell your soul it'll prolly happen eventually
@@Maniac_l23 I don't think you quite grasp the difficulty of execution on frame-perfect, float-precise movement. Human hands can do some wild stuff in speedrunning, but not that
@@mathphysicsnerd idk man you sound like you havent even tried before
Scuttle bugs are so cool! I’m so glad I get to see the ABC while it’s still happening!
Beautiful!
This is so impressive to watch tbh
A triple crazy box jump into a triple scuttlebug bounce into a star dance? Wow!
and into seam walking
Damn this strat used to take hours! Congrats!
The madman got it to work
> Be Big Boo, just chilling with your kids in the basement of your house.
> A red and blue clothed intruder shows up
> Intruder finds way into the basement and murders and robs your kids.
> Intruder bitch slaps you once then goes outside to harass your pet spiders
Big Boo: What did I do to deserve such cruelty?
More amazing content without pushing the A button. Amazing work, ABC community!
You raised THREE SCUTTLEBUGS?!
Some people fear AI. I fear pannenkoek. He will achieve a singularity long before any AI.
They're the same three scuttlebugs that he raised seven years ago.
What a time to be alive
jamboree achieved
incredible work. i'd love to see a TAS perform all of the 0AP stars once you can beat the game with 0
Absolutely insane the lengths the sm64 community is reaching
5:10
Scuttlebugs: HOW DID I GET HERE
that new stair climb is also amazing
finally a scuttlebug jamboree
I know a lot of people meme on you, but the content you make is really good! It sucks that people just see you a"s "the A press guy"
you should be paid simply for this amount of effort and research
This might be me being dumb but man I just realized this map just uses a crazy amount of zoomed in diamond plate textures
A B press is an A press, you can't say it's only a half a C press.
this strategy won't work because mario would die from bleeding out.
6:05 Big Boo: Why do I hear boss music?
SCUTTLEBUG JAMBOREE
THE SCUTTLEBUG BIG JAMBOREE IS REAL!
Can we raise them higher (higher) ? So high
now do it without pressing any buttons
3:51 Scuttlebug Jamboree
idk what happened but that was really cool
Was Big Boos Balcony the same star that also collected 100 coins? Or was it Merry Go Round?
Amazing job as always. What's the current estimate on the time a 100% run with current strats would be?
according to Pannen's routing spreadsheet, around 59 hours
@@thewierdragonbaby4843 honestly not too bad considering the latest saves have invariably added many hours each
YO Pannen you said you would make a video about the The ABC Trials posted on main channel is this still coming? Its been 2yrs :/
Noooo i wanted to comment about the cancelled scuttlebug jamboree finally happening, but so many people thought the same thing. Great minds, amirite?
And now you can bake something in the time it takes you to get up to the roof.
I wonder when Henry is gonna comment
Come on, pannenkoek, do that thing where you release another solves A Press right after Bismuth releases another part of his documentary.
"BBH may have been solved, but we can solve it *harder."*
"Scuttlebug Jamboree. After all this time?"
Always.
You know when there's Scuttlebugs around, Pannen and the ABC crew are gonna be there to fuck 'em up!
gamer
Scuttle bugs are the secret to the universe
I’m curious bc I don’t think it’s mentioned much, how many A pressed are left in a 70 star run? And/or do any of those stars include insanely long stars that make it unviable to make a single segment TAS of?
0 on wii
1 on all other consoles
the a presses is to jump off the pole in bitfs, but in the wii version, the rising and sinking platforms slowly rise over time to let you skip it
@@Bobomb1000 Oh so basically adding 54 more stars to the 16-star run adds no more a presses? I know about the Wii rounding error but didn’t know if any other stars made an issue
@@BoltTheEmolga Not counting BitFS, you can get 70 stars 0x in like 1h20m or so. A 70 star run has been routed, and the slowest star is like 1m6s
@@lemon9bug Alrighty, all I wanted to know, thank you!
Do you have any links to where that route is?
@@BoltTheEmolga There's a google doc but I shan't post it here just in case it gets vandalized or something, but here's fraims' up-to-date playlist ua-cam.com/play/PLDD59gX2gHe_QchmX_s1v5-5KylxFq12W.html
Raise the scuttlebugs while returning to monke
Having multiple camera perspectives was awesome.
MADLAD. Keep at it pannen you magnificent bastard. In the far future I know you and the ABCrew, will reach 0-3 A presses somehow against all odds and logic.
SCUTTLEBUG JAMBOREE
THE BEST PARTY YOU'LL EVER SEE
Could this also save an A press for eye to eye in the secret room? By entering through the balcony, Mario doesn't have to jump in the bookshelf room. Or is there already a way to do that star 0x?
EDIT: Turns out the star can be done 0x by scuttlebug transportation and some vertical parallel universe movement.
No press save, but it could also save time
@@mathphysicsnerd True, this would beat the time sink that is PU movement.
Nice job, it’s that 0 a presses now at BBH in total?
BBH has been 0xA for a while. This is a faster route.
SPEED
😀😀😀 That was amazing!
the scuttlebug jamboree is real!
I was literally watching a video of your older strats for this level yesterday. Did not expect this.
good to see a time save that does,nt use a press
There's Speedrun in TAS ! We forgot about this !
Can't wait for the ultimate 0xA run to get optimized !
I mean, it isn't really neccessary because we (or rather you XD) already saved that A press BUT I think it helps a lot to have at least something easier to work on. Nowadays you only have those monster projects like LLL volcano, but this is much easier (in comparison) and helps having fun with it i think
Wait why isn't he getting the prompts after killing ghosts about how they don't die?
You only get them during Star 1
Thank you for the video.
TRIPLE SCUTTLEBUG RAISING
Hardest I've ever popped off for an ABC video. God that was hype
Harder than SotT 0x? Really?
brian pso gaming
Oh so that’s why that added that Breakdancing move, to make this marginally easier
What's up with that king boo kill?
king boos hitbox is about double the size of its model
3 scuttlebugs, 1 home
pog
This is just so cool and brilliant, even the subtle stuff i loved.
BRIAN PSO 😍😍😍😍
@Pannen. How do you do the relative cameras?
Big Boo's Balcony star depresses me, because if Pannenkoek didn't get burnout from Watch for Rolling Rocks, this star would have been the next explain video.
Bro, it's not like a decade since then? It's time to move on.
@@fuschiawarrior2159 You're right, but it was not a "decade" ago and it's something related to the current state of his main channel so it's not like you can ignore it.
@@fuschiawarrior2159 Tell that to everyone who continues to meme about it to this day.
I don't think people meme on it and it's especially not why pannen stopped if that's the implication
@@computermariobross This is Pannen main channel now, the other one hasn't released a video in 3 years and it has been 6 years since the last commented video.
From what I remember, Pannen said that commentaded videos are hard to make, take a lot of his time and requires effort and he only dedicated himself so much to that one because it was a way to cope from a shit situation he was going through at the time. It's a fun video but he was in a very dark mental place when he made it.
So yeah, I will ignore and enjoy what he wants to post.
That was so cool
Sheesh
LETS GOOO