I have just had a detailed conversation about these vans, Richard, was very informative and gave very good advice. I will be joining the ev community very soon. Thanks Richard for your time.
Thanks for the cost savings you made! This will indeed be in line with a e-nv200. I only need to wait 5 more months before I can join the ev community with my e-nv200!
Hi, these savings look impressive.... But Is your mileage cost calculated driving an empty van? Surely it would go up considerably if your van is loaded everyday. I'd be interested to know by how much per, I don't know, 100kg additional weight say.... and how much the range decreases when loaded...
Hi Andreea, not sure which country you are in. Home charging in the UK usually provides roughly, 9 miles of range per hour on charge. But, you should always seek professional advice from a fully qualified electrician, specialising in electric vehicle charging before making any decision on an electric vehicle.
Hi Jim. When you buy this Kangoo electric van the batteries are included in the purchase price. There's no battery lease to pay each month. It's the Renault Zoe car that carries the option to buy the batteries included or lease the battery separately. I think at launch in 2012, Renault wanted to offer reassurance to buyers of the Zoe car that should any issues arise with this new technology, particularly the batteries, then they would support the owner. Renault did this by way of leasing the battery. With the lease comes multiple benefits: amongst them a substantial guarantee and break down cover (including if you run out of charge). Now the technology has been proven over a number of years, I think the general feeling is that everyone is a little more relaxed about the reliability of the technology. So, the need to lease the batteries has lessened to a great extent.
Extradionary, because Renault made a Ni-Cd Kangoo around the millennium, which Also was popular in certain professional segments. I don't Think any other 20 years old EV brand has been revived by their manufacturer?
Why would someone get rid of my new Diesel after 7 years like you would an electric van because the battery have failed and pay 17k again. The government will start taxing at some point and rebrand it as something else.
Thanks Jonathan. I'm aware of several Tesla's that have done well over 250,000 miles on the original batteries. Legislation will make the use of diesels more expensive in future, I suspect. Tax will change, yes, I think you are right but not until the momentum on EV's has built up a lot. Until then there's great savings to be had
Jonathan How do you know the battery will fail that fast? They’re solid state and unlike an combustion engine moving about constantly and needing service should last a whole lot longer.
The worry is though, in respects to both views. The repair knowledge is not local yet. With the amount of energy new battery tech batteries hold, there is no cheap repairs. So the savings might be great, the whole time they are under warrenty after that you might find yourself in trouble. And i think that was the point being made about 7years and xyz to replace a battery. This van is great for a small company who rarely use their vehicle. Or old people perhaps for shopping etc in car form. Is it reliable enough for a conpany to rely on who use their vans daily, i really doubt it. After all it is a renault. At a price point look at how much a tesla costs vs one of these, you cannot compare that battery technologhy to this. You also have to understand, what do you do when you run out? Literally. Without any back up engine this van is a bit of a problem. 60-80 miles is nothing! Its a bit pathetic with respects.
They are a rubbish van..anyone who buys one is absolutely nuts..there's no range the battery indicator dial literally drops down as you drive it and on a slow charge it takes about 9 full hours to charge it..ideal if you are into the office at 9 and leave at 5 anything else and your blood pressure will go through the roof your hair will start to go grey and if you were never a worrier..you will be
I have just had a detailed conversation about these vans, Richard, was very informative and gave very good advice. I will be joining the ev community very soon. Thanks Richard for your time.
Thanks for the cost savings you made! This will indeed be in line with a e-nv200. I only need to wait 5 more months before I can join the ev community with my e-nv200!
No Problem Richard. Be sure to give me a call we supply these vans..
Hi, these savings look impressive.... But Is your mileage cost calculated driving an empty van? Surely it would go up considerably if your van is loaded everyday. I'd be interested to know by how much per, I don't know, 100kg additional weight say.... and how much the range decreases when loaded...
Great video, with great cost calculation. Thank you. Please keep up.
Thanks Andre. I keep thinking why small van fleet operators have not figured out the cost savings yet..?
Hi what is the difference between a normal home 24v cable charger and unit charger?
Hi Andreea, not sure which country you are in. Home charging in the UK usually provides roughly, 9 miles of range per hour on charge. But, you should always seek professional advice from a fully qualified electrician, specialising in electric vehicle charging before making any decision on an electric vehicle.
Correct me if I'm wrong but is there not a battery rental fee each month from Renault, maybe I'm incorrect just read something about it nice van
Hi Jim. When you buy this Kangoo electric van the batteries are included in the purchase price. There's no battery lease to pay each month. It's the Renault Zoe car that carries the option to buy the batteries included or lease the battery separately.
I think at launch in 2012, Renault wanted to offer reassurance to buyers of the Zoe car that should any issues arise with this new technology, particularly the batteries, then they would support the owner. Renault did this by way of leasing the battery. With the lease comes multiple benefits: amongst them a substantial guarantee and break down cover (including if you run out of charge).
Now the technology has been proven over a number of years, I think the general feeling is that everyone is a little more relaxed about the reliability of the technology. So, the need to lease the batteries has lessened to a great extent.
Extradionary, because Renault made a Ni-Cd Kangoo around the millennium, which Also was popular in certain professional segments. I don't Think any other 20 years old EV brand has been revived by their manufacturer?
I driving boss Citroen diesel Citroen Berlingo start stop all day and within six months DPF clogged twice. Trying to push my boss to by electric one.
When are you coming to the United States. Maybe ten years to go.
Why would someone get rid of my new Diesel after 7 years like you would an electric van because the battery have failed and pay 17k again. The government will start taxing at some point and rebrand it as something else.
Thanks Jonathan. I'm aware of several Tesla's that have done well over 250,000 miles on the original batteries. Legislation will make the use of diesels more expensive in future, I suspect. Tax will change, yes, I think you are right but not until the momentum on EV's has built up a lot. Until then there's great savings to be had
Jonathan
How do you know the battery will fail that fast?
They’re solid state and unlike an combustion engine moving about constantly and needing service should last a whole lot longer.
@@AMacProOwner i guess he dors not like electric vehicules
I hope the government taxes the shit our of you so you ought to get rid of that polluting machine asap.
The worry is though, in respects to both views. The repair knowledge is not local yet. With the amount of energy new battery tech batteries hold, there is no cheap repairs. So the savings might be great, the whole time they are under warrenty after that you might find yourself in trouble. And i think that was the point being made about 7years and xyz to replace a battery.
This van is great for a small company who rarely use their vehicle. Or old people perhaps for shopping etc in car form. Is it reliable enough for a conpany to rely on who use their vans daily, i really doubt it. After all it is a renault.
At a price point look at how much a tesla costs vs one of these, you cannot compare that battery technologhy to this. You also have to understand, what do you do when you run out? Literally.
Without any back up engine this van is a bit of a problem. 60-80 miles is nothing!
Its a bit pathetic with respects.
Fucking hell I wouldn’t trust these lads
They are a rubbish van..anyone who buys one is absolutely nuts..there's no range the battery indicator dial literally drops down as you drive it and on a slow charge it takes about 9 full hours to charge it..ideal if you are into the office at 9 and leave at 5 anything else and your blood pressure will go through the roof your hair will start to go grey and if you were never a worrier..you will be