Giving Master Chief an inhibitor chip because you can’t understand how past experience shapes personality is so profoundly stupid. How are these writers employed, let alone given a Halo show?
I just started replaying Halo CE. The Master Chief had a personality. One of his first lines to Cortana is telling a joke about how he didn't enjoy his cryosleeping session because of her driving (chased by covenant group that actually downed the ship 30 minutes later). Chief wasn't a melodramatic stone until Halo 4.
I will say that he is pretty stoic in Halo 3, but I always interpreted that as him being worried about Cortana being trapped in High Charity with the Gravemind.
Well Halo 3 They're in Go-Go-Go mode. But when he finds Cortana she asks." Do you have a plan to get us out" and he responds. "Thought I'd try shooting my way out. Mix things up a little"
you forgot that master cheif plays with a grenade when he asks cortana how to blow up the engines. in CE the chief has a sense of humour, (my guess to why people forget it is because the time needed in halo 2 and 3 where chief could crack jokes was given to johnson)
Anyone falling for 2nd season’s false advertisement deserves to be disappointed once again. I never believe their words since season 1. Fans should be rightfully pissed what the writers and Halo show “fans” have done to Halo franchise where the show could’ve been their own Arcane/HOD
Honestly the franchise has been in the shitter ever since bungie left it. Sure some of the things 343 did was a lot better and infinites multiplayer is pretty good but the halo universe has been fucked by redcons, garbage writing and story threads being dropped left and right.
@@Lauren007E Too follow up TunezCottage; Mauler was mediating between AM and Az, after AM reacted to Az's pronouns comments. AM shared those texts without Mauler's consent, which he didn't appreciate in the slightest. I don't know what was said in those texts, maybe stuff that might tarnish the friendship between Mauler and Az. But still, no consent is not decent.
I was surprised too. He is clearly a milktoast industry shill who defended Starfield and attacked Az for his pronouns rant. He is on the level of Angry Joe and i think he is only here to still grift and pretend he is "with gamers" until they abandon him since he is aware leftie woke gamers are minority.
@@Sebassieheels covered the video on his channel. It was basically Mauler trying to mediate cause as he put it he was trying to basically get two different friends of his to become friends. He was trying to set up an call for the two to get in an hash out the pronouns beef for stargate as an lot of users (including Actman) took heels out of context and with the full context he comes off less deranged and more angry. This spiked again when Actman discovered Sweet baby inc, to which he commented something like “this is terrible this isn’t right” and Az responded by QRT the tweet he sent to Az saying “I hope they have pronouns in all games now to piss you off” This is what led to them fighting on Twitter again and Actman deciding to leak the dms between him and Mauler which mauler later commented on Twitter that he despises Actman did this and it broke his trust in the guy
Does anyone remember the EFAP where the gang were talking about one of the Alien films and Wolf said something to the effect of: “I’ll never get over Micheal Fassbender telling another Micheal Fassbender ‘You hold. I’ll blow.’?
@@dontshootmex5588 Ah! I was referring to the EFAP episode, unless it was an Alien film EFAP, where that scene was mentioned by Wolf. Not the movie that scene was from. My bad for the confusion.
You know, as i was playing Halo 2, one question i couldn't get off my mind was, "Where's the sex scenes?!?" Granted, the show wasn't progressive enough to have the Cortana-MC-Arbiter threeway, but there's always next season
I like how the show went into the whole sex scene without even pausing to think of how damn creepy it is in the lore. Spartans age to maturity quickly and then just stay there for as long as they get gene therapy from ONI. Chief himself was 14 when he entered service. He was still that age during the insurrectionist uprisings cause of crap like cryosleep. Like are we just gonna ignore this???
so one of the writers had watched Equilibrium 2002 film and thought "wouldn't that be good for Master Chief" and then picked the wrong IP to mess up with a bad version of that idea
I had to do a double take on when this highlight happened after seeing Act Man in this. Can't believe how much of an ego he has to burn down bridges with Mauler and EFAP just to try and prove a point that didn't even exist. So disappointing.
It speaks to their lack of talent that the only way to write a less emotional character would have an emotion mcguffin that you can just pull out. No gradual transformation of the character to understand their feelings better. Nope just pop it out and he's a completely new person instantly.
I never understood, you had an awesome and very established badass character of Sergeant Major Avery Junior Johnson, he could have been a fantastic way of portraying more emotion and spoken lines without ruining John in any way. Have him fighting with Chief, adding a human take even though Johnson was technically one of the first attempts at making a spartan (as I recall). I doubt that there would be a single Halo fan that would hate to have Chief and Johnson as basically a buddy couple during the show, he's an established badass in all of the games that he's in, his lines were always great, I just don't get it. Then again I recall that this show was kinda made as a big middle finger to the fans so yeah no wonder they didn't want that.
The relationship between Chief and Cortana in the games develops into an incredibly complex relationship. Cortana is an AI that was created from mapping the cloned brain of Dr. Halsey. She's a machine that has been built from the ground up as a "Smart AI", one that thinks and feels like a human being. Master Chief is a soldier, abducted and indoctrinated at a young age, and raised in the Spartan program that Dr. Halsey oversaw. Halsey has a maternal relationship with all of her Spartans, John very much included, one that is reciprocal in nature. And Cortana, being an AI clone of Halsey, actually inherits a lot of this relationship. She has a very close relationship where she is almost like a surrogate mother of John's surrogate mother. He treasures her very dearly, in this platonic, motherly way. They compliment each other so beautifully. He's a human being who was made to be more like a machine. She was a machine who was made to be more human. They're a beautiful yin and yang. There's your emotional core. It's so obvious. And it developed over the course of the games, becoming the focus by Halo 3. It was one of the best bits of chemistry in a game story to ever develop naturally. And if any of these writers, who prided themselves on grasping narrative depth and character work had just played the games, they could have seen what they had. I don't understand why there was no creative director that kept them from making something totally alien to Halo. Pun not intended.
Because deep down there has been a agenda here where all these young writers that are hired are basically SJWs and specifically hired because they've NEVER played the original games, and therefore have no knowledge or love for the source material. It's called DEI, originally previously known as "ESG", invented and orchestrated by Larry Fink, the CEO of *BlackRock*. It is his plan to "FORCE CHANGE" and basically *Woke* ideology into EVERY corner of our Pop Culture Entertainment, through movies, comic books and video-games, and it's been going on since atleast 2016, this stuff has only been exposed and made public since around 2023 and most people are beginning to really talk about it now.
If they had played the games there's no way they would've been allowed to work on the show. Henry Cavil is a pariah in Hollywood for actually reading, playing, and caring about the source material. He should be the highest paid actor in Hollywood or at least on the level that Vin Diesel (another famous nerd) had in the 2000s. Hollywood doesn't make movies to please you, they make movies to change you, as they constantly say at every award show. The writers can't change you if they stick to the source material.
If they wanted to stunt his emotions, why not just stunt his limbic system? I never watched the show, but in the OG they made a clone of John to hide the kidnapping, youre meaning to tell me they arent capable of permanently altering the limbic sytem. They literally augment the spartans as children
I just hate the entire idea of explaining his character as 'stunted emotions'. To reference The Fall of Reach novel, the defining point of his character across his entire upbringing is that he fully bought into the story he was told. He was told that he was conscripted to be one of the heroes who saves the world. He's the little boy who desperately wants to be an astronaut who just found out he got put into an astronaut program. So, when he learns this, he immediately throws himself fully into it. He *needs* to be a Spartan. That makes him the ideal Spartan to lead very quickly, making him the natural leader of the spartans and eventually the 'last' spartan in Halo: CE. The only thing he really cares about is being that mythical hero, and he learns as a child in that program that there is more to being a hero (for example, being a leader means you have to know when to spend the lives of your men because you can't win and keep them all alive). This all creates this very assertive and focused character. He has to be the figurehead that not only regular men but especially his Spartans look up to as a guiding light because the man in charge CANNOT be an emotional wreck because that destroys morale. Starting with the beginning of Halo:CE, now that his entire family is dead (well, most anyway). The only people he really cared to talk to are gone, so we have this almost completely silent protagonist beyond giving out orders and occasionally speaking to the few friends he makes (like Cortana, Foehammer, Sergeant Johnson, and the Arbiter). He does NOT lack emotions. He is just a private person by monumental grief and nearly equal necessity.
@@gagejohnathan9641 Yep, and they said they had never perfected the cloning process so all the clones ended up dying young. And all the kids were told they couldn't return to their parents, but that they were going to become the defenders of humanity.
@@sarinat3101 Yep. In fact, the imperfect nature of the cloning process was actually in their favor since it made for self-disposing evidence. And, oddly enough, there’s even a scene in The Fall of Reach where Halsey is discussing exactly why false memories or inflicted amnesia would be a bad idea. Both have a hefty chance of causing crippling brain damage, and even if they don’t their permanence would always be in question. The program already had an assload of dangerous enhancement procedures in place, and Halsey quite rightly didn’t see the point in an extra one whose goal would already be met by virtue of indoctrinating then from the age of 6.
@@electricbayonet2 , not only that she also entertained the idea of straight up lying to Spartans or witholding info from them, but immediately dismissed it, since if truth got out, there would be a great chance of the rebellion or worse. The TV show is meant to represent women and minorities in a good light, but their actions did anything but. Halsey we see in the Show is irrational, acts on instincts and emotions, insecure and not trustworthy. All of these qualities are not signs of a Strong and Independent Woman, but of a cowardly liar, who hides behind people's backs and stabs them given the opportunity. I always perceived Halsey as a woman of science and logic, who would also show her motherly side to Spartans, even if it was in her own interests. The way they portrait her in the show just insults me.
Ironically, the idea of a fighting man suffering troubles from an emotion inhibitor was done long ago and far better by Equilibrium. Preston did not lose his training, his martial ability, or his tactical thinking by becoming emotional, and he proves that he can fully control his emotions when the time comes.
@hoos3014 No. He lived in a society that forced everyone to take a drug that suppresses emotion. His training was indicated to be from his late youth/early adulthood, as it was many levels above that of the regular soldiers, bordering on the mystic (a sort of gun-fu). Not quite super soldier, but leaning in that direction. Anyway, the drug was administered to everyone, including children, so he would have lived with it his whole life.
Well if they're going to rip-off _Universal Soldier_ they have to do the scene where he cuts a thing out of himself. Ignoring that in US is was a tracking device and Luc Deveraux's increasing level of humanity came from his exposure to everyday humanity and the slow recovery of his suppressed memories from his previous life.
We should have had a Proper adaptation of Spartan 3's and the book the Ghost of Onyx. We need Kurt. Also Chief in the books is while not quite chatty but more in line with the 343 Halo 4 version. He talks but no line should be wasted.
The halo novels do a great job of humanizing chief in a way the games don't. We get a lot more of his internal monologs. We see him struggle with the deaths of comrades, feel uncomfortable whenever he's not got a clear objective, and want to take on the guilt of every step backwards throughout the human covenant war.
It's real simple the righteous of this show have never met or engaged with a really stoic reserved man So when they see a man who is like that they think that he must have had something done in terms of a chip in his brain or a chip in his body that's making him that way because people just can't be that way
This is false. John was the jack of all trades. And his luck wasnt that he was good at lottery. It was that he made his own luck when fate wouldnt play ball.
@@McCowski yes in the first book fall of reach where halsey tosses the coin. And the key moment is when john grabs the coin when its about to land badly
@@McCowski the coin toss scene she tosses coin and chief guesses it correct. Until its about to land false. He grabs it midair and presents the side he guessed. Making his own luck.
I like to think of it more as the Halo show finally killing E;R, it did what Korra couldn’t. Now we have E;R 2, or maybe it’s RED E;R who knows since we can only see his face.
The emotion pill seems like a writing crutch that the show doesnt need. The have been numerous studies on children that aren't properly socialized, and its been well documented how bad that is for a persons development. They dont need the pill to have a stoic soldier character confront normal life and their emotions for thd the first time. Universal soldier did that excellently decades ago.
a good example of inhibited emotion and subsequent uninhibited emotion is christian bale's character in equilibrium... when he stopped taking those pills, it doesn't diminish his abilities and faculties...
10:25 MauLer brings up Bucky here, but didn’t MGS4 do something similar too? The nanomachines in soldiers suppressing their emotions about killing, but when those nanomachines are suddenly turned off, it all floods them at once leading to a massive ’oh god what have I done’ moment for all of them
I thought it was just pain inhibitors. I recall a scene where Raiden gets Bluetooth connected to all the goons he's fighting and hears their thoughts of being scared to die. It might have been emotion inhibitors turning off but I just assumed the game was humanizing the bad guys by showing thoughts they've been having the whole game fighting and dying to Raiden.
@@jobiy1999 If I'm not mistaken, you're talking about MG Rising Revengeance, not MGS4 (Old Snake, "War has changed", different nanomachines used by PMCs for different war economy)
@@dudebruh8534 "Weirdos" I mean, leaking private messages between yourself, and another person without their permission, in a vain attempt at internet clout is what most normal people would consider a reprehensible move? Pretty reasonable to be upset about.
Never watched the series, do they touch Noble team? And very specifically, 6, who in lore is the only other Spartan to essentially be equal to Master Chief.
@@darkraiking680there's no reason to think Chief is just on a different level from the other Spartan 2's. Cortana acknowledges that among his company, he's pretty average at basically every thing applicable to battle, and she makes a very hard judgement that he was the best, largely because of an unquantifiable "luck" that had kept him alive. The whole Hyper Lethal Vector thing MC and Noble 6 have isn't in lore, I think it was just Halo Reach marketing.
@@peanutgallery4 I thought the hyper lethal vector thing was also brought up in some books. Also, pretty sure Noble 6 is a Spartan 3. But i think my overall point is that Noble team was great. Noble 6 was also the one chosen by Cortona to deliver her, before being paired with Master Chief, and that was in game knowledge.
117 was also portrayed as more mechanical than human he was built to be a weapon for humanity and Cortana was his humanity despite being an AI (Cortana has a great line in the games about this). It was one of the more defining parts of the game and the books and a theme that will stick with me for my lifetime. It is also a key reason for him never being seen outside his armor, again he is being portrayed as nothing more than a weapon, that is how he sees himself and how a lot of those who created him see him. Not a person but a tool to serve the human race. The loss of Cortana, while not a thing I personally agreed with, was what brought about the biggening's of chief have to face his humanity (this could have been done in a really interesting way but 343 failed in my opinion).
@Killer36661 The Spartan program fell under the Naval Special Warfare Division of the UNSC Navy. Basically, it's like Navy Seals, who all have Navy ranks.
I agree they should have made this about the world and not focus on a main character while using meister schaffe as a conduit for the audience. And for fuck sake keep the helmet on! we have no need to c ya face! Im not even a massive fan but this portrayal grinds my gears
I'd have loved a show with a bunch of grunts that are the characters getting wrapped up in master cheifs madness. Like imagine they have orders to take a balcony, and up there master cheif is almost cartoonishly defeating a number of covenant. Most of em are super hype but have a character or 2 that are absolutely terrified. Cause if their situation requires the chief that means that the squad mortality has increased sevenfold. And just have the escalation continue to mad levels. Hell even get the flood involved and end it with a last tragic odst just ending it. Do a good story about the isolation of a hero left not by his own will but the tragedy of his circumstance.
@@_Dovar_ from "sjws ruin vidya" to "i hope there are pronouns in every game" and finally "people hire sbi? They should just hire writers instead, lol!" Dude's a mercenary, will go where it's acceptable to go.
Nope, that’s in the standard lore - the UNSC still technically has to follow the rules in regard to treating the Spartans like regular soldiers, so they have to get paid. It even becomes a plot point in one of the books when one officer checks the paymaster records and realizes that these (supposed) 19-year-olds have been getting paid for 8 years.
I love how all this "generic man" jokes started, at least in my belief, with the Ben and Tom from The Yogscast. Durring a charity stream, they bring up how shit the new warhammer 40k lore is in regards to making old names mean something. Turning "land raider" into not just a description of the vehicle, but instead the name of the dude who built it. Fucking Arkhan Land. This evolves into a superchat telling them that The Emperor is actually Jimmy Space, and he created the Space Marines. From then on, ive seen an exponential increase in people calling things "john ----"
People don't realize Kathleen Kennedy actually consulted on this show, specifically for Master Chief. Her only documented input was that she asked they "put a chip in him, make him more lame"
Honestly, the idea of Chief acting how he does because of an emotional inhibitor is an idea I very much dislike. I like that Chief is naturally stoic. Not cause of a machine.
Ahhh, before Act Man showed his true colors as just another content farm who doesn’t care about anything other than himself and his childhood play things.
This is what I do with the 3rd Spider-Man movie. Venom wasn't in that movie. Venom speak in first person plural, is fuggen jacked, long red tongue, growly voice. Nope, he ain't there, just like Master Chief isn't in the Halo show.
8:20 depends on how long he's had the chip. If it's been decades, it makes sense for him to be overly emotional because he has lost the practical capacity to restrain his emotions via disuse. In fact, he should probably be a neurotic, nonfunctional mess, if he's had that chip for his entire remembered life.
Just checking, but did Rags, at any point, say anything along the following lines? "I don't care about the games." or "I don't care about the books." ?
@@nhagan001 The only reason I ask, is that Rags *has said those very things* with regards to other films / tv series, etc - *especially* when people are attempting to explain why something is the way it is.
@@TheMaleReiwhy is it bad that he wants to judge something on its own merits as a story rather than be bombarded with things that ultimately arent relevant?
@@xion0713 Addendum - since Paramount said this is a separate timeline, it could be argued that everything *outside* the TV series timeline is "ultimately aren't relevant" too. Again, just own it. Hey, don't get me wrong, I enjoy the disembowelment EFAP performs on various films and shows and videos. Own. It.
I’ve said it before, and I shall repeat for posterity: the greatest sin committed by 343 Industries is the nuclear-weapons grade destruction of Chief and Cortana’s characters. John-117 is a cybernetic super soldier with the emotional range of a machine. Cortana is an artificial computer construct who’s the most emotionally dynamic character in the games. Both are two halves that create a cohesive whole when together. Which is why it’s world-class retardation to kill off Cortana, immediately bring her back just to make her the villain, and then kill her AGAIN and replace her with a hollow facsimile. Not to mention, the mischaracterization of Chief, where everyone seems dead set on exploring the character’s humanity, which does nothing but complicate the plot. As far as I’m concerned, Chief and Cortana are still drifting in space amongst the ruins of the Forward Unto Dawn. Waiting for the day we wake them. When we need them…a day that hopefully comes sooner than much, much later.
I thought 343 did a good job with Halo 4, Chief was done exactly like the original books. Cortana was written perfectly and went out saving Chiefs life and had her best design.
@@prufan Yeah I mean, there are indications of good storytelling in that game, but it ultimately falls flat in the long run. I mean, the FIRST thing you do once acquiring full creative control after Bungie departed Microsoft after Halo Reach, is to kill off one of the main protagonists, in an epic climax that wasn’t well built towards, in what was heavily advertised as the “return of the Halo franchise” after seemingly closing the book on Chief’s war. And they’ve been picking up the scraps ever since. If anything, Halo 4 felt like it should’ve been at the VERY end of Master Chief’s saga. As in: never planning on using him again. Cause as I said: Master Chief without Cortana doesn’t work well. Not to say that 343 hasn’t learned their lesson. After all, I thought that Halo Infinite was a baby-step in the right direction. In regard to the gameplay, character design, and even certain angles of the plot. Though, the story still suffers the sins of its forefathers.
@@prufanI like 4 except for the Forerunner Genesong stuff. It made Chief a Chosen One. If that part was omitted and the rest was canon I'd be fine with it as a story. Gameplay wise I wasn't too crazy about it. 5 was a huge disappointment for me. I was loving the marketing (audio show included) then the game was nonsense and you could tell it wasn't done campaign or MP wise. Bonnie would later say before Infinite they thought of finishing the plot with a Halo 5.5. I wish they did. At least they seemed to have a plan with 5. I would have let them cook rather than dumping the plot, again.
I'm sorry but no, that's not even worse thing 343 has done, not by a long shot. Changing the Forerunners into space Voldemorts completely changes and retcons the Covenant's entire motivation for destroying humanity. Halo just doesn't happen unless the Prophets realize the same gods they worship were "left behind" on the Great Journey and need to be swept under the rug for their bullshit religion to function.
Oh the irony in how right you are, in a way. There is that kind of character… she’s a HUMAN WOMAN that works with the Covenant. You know, the “we will activate the halo rings because it is our destiny” guys?! Because of course the crazy alien leaders in halo were all about working with humans!
@@charlesruteal9062 fortunately no! She just bangs him I believe! Keep in mind I only keep up with Halo through Fringy’s coverage of it. You could put a picture of her up on screen right now, and I would not be able to tell you her name!
I really hate the whole inhibitor chip memory thing cause i remember in (Halo legeneds i believe it was called) one of the stories had a spartan find her replacement duplicate. And she had her gun on the clone but didnt shoot it, then on the other end there was her partner who on the ride back is holding his head saying he thinks he shot his. Like it's such a sad sacrifice that they make but given the threat of the covenant they have to bite the bullet and be content that their families were able to have a peaceful passing with their clone rather than knowing their real kid is being sent to help save the galaxy but was abducted and augmented to high hell.
If I recall one of the spartans who found their clone ended themself too. I loved Legends. Daisy had a cameo in one of the last good Halo books. She was still a smart ass at that point but when I saw her name and number I remembered her from that short film 😢
@@AzayBaeGod, it’s already been 6 years since Silent Storm came out, and we really haven’t gotten anything close to that good since then (even though most novels released in the interim were written by the same guy!)
@@samlund8543 I loved Silent Storm. I read Oblivion and don't recall disliking it but nothing stuck in my head from it. I never bothered with the novel after. It was too close to the 343i plot so I lost interest.
I would argue that Bungie was definitely leaning in the direction of "Halsey is an unrepentant monster" by the time of _Halo: Reach_ with the revelation that she created Cortana by secretly flash-cloning herself over and over, murdering each of these innocent girls when they evinced some minor genetic flaw, and then finally, when she had managed to produce her one, perfect clone, burning out that girl's brain to create the Cortana AI. It's actually something of a triumphant moment in _Reach_ when Carter A-259, who was augmented by Col. James Ackerson's rival Spartan-III program (which itself was created specifically to fight the Covenant, not independence-minded human colonists trying to escape the heavy hand of the United Earth Government) essentially tells Halsey to go fuck herself.
TBF in the normal lore she didn’t actually clone whole humans, just the brains, which were never conscious or functional (at least any more than any other organ on its own). Remember that growing whole humans tends to lead to them dying anyway - something Halsey herself would be well acquainted with for the Spartan program, so it’s not like she’s innocent here.
@@samlund8543 perhaps that was the original story, but by the release of _Reach_ Bungie had retconned it to Halsey growing and killing multiple complete clones in order to (eventually) create Cortana (IIRC _The Journal of Catherine Halsey_ document that was included with some of the more exclusive editions of _Reach_ has actual sketches of the clones themselves at various stages of development).
Even if apparently season 2 is better than 1 he will always be mastercheeks and not the chief. It would probably be way better if you just skipped season 1 because it adds barely anything of value.
They should have gave master chief the Saitama treatment from one punch man. He comes in at the last minute to save the day. He looks awesome and changes the story but maybe doesn't always get the credit.
It was always going to be challenging to include such an iconic character. But, I honestly rather have them only have 117 in cameos and center the show around someone else.
4:26 the problem is it's the same issue with those writers of the Witcher netflix series, and the writers of the Avatar live-action series, everytime they do a adaptation of some classic thing that fans love, they don't care about the lore, most of these writers have never even read the original book or video-game they adapting a series off of; and so they have no care for that source material. their aim, goal and only interest is to subvert, deconstruct and re-contextualize the original source material and aim it solely at the MODERN AUDIENCE, you know, young people who have never watched, followed or grew up with those classic things. And the really sly thing about what they do here is they make sure their "Live-Action" series looks exactly like that classic thing on a visual level, so the costumes, overall look of the characters, production sets, worlds, characters etc all look fine - really cool. this is evident in the 2024 Avatar last airbender, they got those actors looking 100% to a t exactly like the animated series characters. Netflix Witcher and here with Paramount Halo are all the same, pretty much spot on with the look. this is a very sly tactic used to trick and draw in all us Oldskool Fans of those classic things, to manipulate us, decieve us into believing this is going to be 100% Faithful to the source material because the visual look of it is there. then you start watching the actual show and about 1-2 episodes in you soon realize you've been deceived and had that rug pulled right from under you. this was why as soon as that first trailer dropped for Paramount Halo, and i learned the Actor would be taking his helmet off in the show; that when i ultimately chose not to watch it. this Paramount Halo series doesn't even deserve a second season, people should all just not even watch the entire series, they should tune out after like 2 episodes in and really fuck with the viewing figures and ratio; that's what happened to Amazon's Rings of Power series. I just really don't understand why people continue to watch these terrible adaps all the way through, believing in their second seasons they're going to improve anything to make them faithful to the original source material, these writers and showrunners have already proved what their goal is from the start.
I remember the showrunners making fun about the fact that they never played the games or read the books and actually mocked them and never consulted with anyone who did. Not surprised it turned out like garbage
Master Chief is it supposed to be another human. He supposed to be a legend and a hero, he’s not supposed to deal with trauma. He’s supposed to be bigger than that. The type of guy that everyone looks up to, and and when crap goes south and goes south hard he will be there to save the day. And I think that’s what the halo shows missing.
Internet theories: This was originally a Mass Effect script
Mass Effect fans: "We really dodged a bullet"
Truly we did
After Andromeda they have suffered enough.
The Expanse is the closest thing we'll get to a good Mass Effect show, and I'm fine with that.
@@TheSkepticalPanda we do not speak of that name,it is a bad omen
we already took the bullet, ME Andromeda, and parts of ME3.
Giving Master Chief an inhibitor chip because you can’t understand how past experience shapes personality is so profoundly stupid. How are these writers employed, let alone given a Halo show?
Let me tell you: this was a script already written, they just changed details to """fit""" the current job.
@@denkerbosu3551are you referring to the mass effect script theory
@@italyspit5192As bat shit as it sounds, *it makes too much sense* to not take it with even a grain of salt
@@gagejohnathan9641 I agree the aspects of it fit alongside with that odd shout out to commander Shepard in the first episode
they are someone's nephews or slept around as child actors - that's how you find job in woke american media.
I just started replaying Halo CE. The Master Chief had a personality. One of his first lines to Cortana is telling a joke about how he didn't enjoy his cryosleeping session because of her driving (chased by covenant group that actually downed the ship 30 minutes later). Chief wasn't a melodramatic stone until Halo 4.
I will say that he is pretty stoic in Halo 3, but I always interpreted that as him being worried about Cortana being trapped in High Charity with the Gravemind.
Well Halo 3 They're in Go-Go-Go mode. But when he finds Cortana she asks." Do you have a plan to get us out" and he responds. "Thought I'd try shooting my way out. Mix things up a little"
Also, after cutscenes, we always get a line that shows Master Chief's thoughts, and at least half of them are some kind of joke.
you forgot that master cheif plays with a grenade when he asks cortana how to blow up the engines. in CE the chief has a sense of humour, (my guess to why people forget it is because the time needed in halo 2 and 3 where chief could crack jokes was given to johnson)
Anyone falling for 2nd season’s false advertisement deserves to be disappointed once again. I never believe their words since season 1. Fans should be rightfully pissed what the writers and Halo show “fans” have done to Halo franchise where the show could’ve been their own Arcane/HOD
fool us once...
They did the old double down and made season 2 even worse.
If ANY of the same writing team are present then its already over.
I don't think anyone's falling for it
I don't understand this. How were you fooled by season 1? "It was guaranteed to be a great video game adaptation like the others."
Honestly the franchise has been in the shitter ever since bungie left it. Sure some of the things 343 did was a lot better and infinites multiplayer is pretty good but the halo universe has been fucked by redcons, garbage writing and story threads being dropped left and right.
Seeing Act Man on the panel reminds me of Doomer; guys who'll probably never come on Efap again....Anyway
I missed Internet drama apparently... or a youtuber death? Idk
@@Lauren007E Nah he exposed DMs between him and Mauler without Mauler's consent. It's a scummy thing to do.
@@Lauren007E Too follow up TunezCottage; Mauler was mediating between AM and Az, after AM reacted to Az's pronouns comments. AM shared those texts without Mauler's consent, which he didn't appreciate in the slightest.
I don't know what was said in those texts, maybe stuff that might tarnish the friendship between Mauler and Az. But still, no consent is not decent.
I was surprised too. He is clearly a milktoast industry shill who defended Starfield and attacked Az for his pronouns rant. He is on the level of Angry Joe and i think he is only here to still grift and pretend he is "with gamers" until they abandon him since he is aware leftie woke gamers are minority.
@@Sebassieheels covered the video on his channel. It was basically Mauler trying to mediate cause as he put it he was trying to basically get two different friends of his to become friends. He was trying to set up an call for the two to get in an hash out the pronouns beef for stargate as an lot of users (including Actman) took heels out of context and with the full context he comes off less deranged and more angry.
This spiked again when Actman discovered Sweet baby inc, to which he commented something like “this is terrible this isn’t right” and Az responded by QRT the tweet he sent to Az saying “I hope they have pronouns in all games now to piss you off”
This is what led to them fighting on Twitter again and Actman deciding to leak the dms between him and Mauler which mauler later commented on Twitter that he despises Actman did this and it broke his trust in the guy
Does anyone remember the EFAP where the gang were talking about one of the Alien films and Wolf said something to the effect of: “I’ll never get over Micheal Fassbender telling another Micheal Fassbender ‘You hold. I’ll blow.’?
That scene was from Alien Covenant
@@dontshootmex5588 Ah! I was referring to the EFAP episode, unless it was an Alien film EFAP, where that scene was mentioned by Wolf. Not the movie that scene was from. My bad for the confusion.
Straight from Ridley Scott's wet dreams 😂
I thought the line was worse? Something like "you blow, i'll do the fingering"
Yes that was a scene that was was made🤮
Good ole Master Cheeks.
Aka John Halo, Jimmy Rings, Jonathan Circles, and many, many more 😂😂
that's Master Pablo, Kwan-Kwan-Seven
The M"ass"ter Cheeks.
You know, as i was playing Halo 2, one question i couldn't get off my mind was, "Where's the sex scenes?!?" Granted, the show wasn't progressive enough to have the Cortana-MC-Arbiter threeway, but there's always next season
No, if it was progressive, MC would get cucked by Cortana/Arbiter.
At this point, it’s just malicious with how far out of their way they are going with not sticking closer to the source material.
His name is Spa-Tan 117: Master Cheeks.
Brilliant 😂
I like how the show went into the whole sex scene without even pausing to think of how damn creepy it is in the lore. Spartans age to maturity quickly and then just stay there for as long as they get gene therapy from ONI. Chief himself was 14 when he entered service. He was still that age during the insurrectionist uprisings cause of crap like cryosleep. Like are we just gonna ignore this???
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so one of the writers had watched Equilibrium 2002 film and thought "wouldn't that be good for Master Chief" and then picked the wrong IP to mess up with a bad version of that idea
I had to do a double take on when this highlight happened after seeing Act Man in this. Can't believe how much of an ego he has to burn down bridges with Mauler and EFAP just to try and prove a point that didn't even exist. So disappointing.
God it feels sad seeing Act Man’s profile here
Yeah
Why?
Yeah, RIP.
@@nathangordon4891 Turns out he was a dick.
Wait what
It speaks to their lack of talent that the only way to write a less emotional character would have an emotion mcguffin that you can just pull out.
No gradual transformation of the character to understand their feelings better. Nope just pop it out and he's a completely new person instantly.
I never understood, you had an awesome and very established badass character of Sergeant Major Avery Junior Johnson, he could have been a fantastic way of portraying more emotion and spoken lines without ruining John in any way. Have him fighting with Chief, adding a human take even though Johnson was technically one of the first attempts at making a spartan (as I recall). I doubt that there would be a single Halo fan that would hate to have Chief and Johnson as basically a buddy couple during the show, he's an established badass in all of the games that he's in, his lines were always great, I just don't get it.
Then again I recall that this show was kinda made as a big middle finger to the fans so yeah no wonder they didn't want that.
The relationship between Chief and Cortana in the games develops into an incredibly complex relationship. Cortana is an AI that was created from mapping the cloned brain of Dr. Halsey. She's a machine that has been built from the ground up as a "Smart AI", one that thinks and feels like a human being. Master Chief is a soldier, abducted and indoctrinated at a young age, and raised in the Spartan program that Dr. Halsey oversaw. Halsey has a maternal relationship with all of her Spartans, John very much included, one that is reciprocal in nature. And Cortana, being an AI clone of Halsey, actually inherits a lot of this relationship. She has a very close relationship where she is almost like a surrogate mother of John's surrogate mother. He treasures her very dearly, in this platonic, motherly way.
They compliment each other so beautifully. He's a human being who was made to be more like a machine. She was a machine who was made to be more human. They're a beautiful yin and yang.
There's your emotional core. It's so obvious. And it developed over the course of the games, becoming the focus by Halo 3. It was one of the best bits of chemistry in a game story to ever develop naturally. And if any of these writers, who prided themselves on grasping narrative depth and character work had just played the games, they could have seen what they had. I don't understand why there was no creative director that kept them from making something totally alien to Halo. Pun not intended.
Because deep down there has been a agenda here where all these young writers that are hired are basically SJWs and specifically hired because they've NEVER played the original games, and therefore have no knowledge or love for the source material. It's called DEI, originally previously known as "ESG", invented and orchestrated by Larry Fink, the CEO of *BlackRock*. It is his plan to "FORCE CHANGE" and basically *Woke* ideology into EVERY corner of our Pop Culture Entertainment, through movies, comic books and video-games, and it's been going on since atleast 2016, this stuff has only been exposed and made public since around 2023 and most people are beginning to really talk about it now.
These modern writers wouldnt know a good story from a hole in the ground theyre so out of touch
If they had played the games there's no way they would've been allowed to work on the show.
Henry Cavil is a pariah in Hollywood for actually reading, playing, and caring about the source material. He should be the highest paid actor in Hollywood or at least on the level that Vin Diesel (another famous nerd) had in the 2000s.
Hollywood doesn't make movies to please you, they make movies to change you, as they constantly say at every award show. The writers can't change you if they stick to the source material.
If they wanted to stunt his emotions, why not just stunt his limbic system? I never watched the show, but in the OG they made a clone of John to hide the kidnapping, youre meaning to tell me they arent capable of permanently altering the limbic sytem. They literally augment the spartans as children
I just hate the entire idea of explaining his character as 'stunted emotions'. To reference The Fall of Reach novel, the defining point of his character across his entire upbringing is that he fully bought into the story he was told. He was told that he was conscripted to be one of the heroes who saves the world. He's the little boy who desperately wants to be an astronaut who just found out he got put into an astronaut program.
So, when he learns this, he immediately throws himself fully into it. He *needs* to be a Spartan. That makes him the ideal Spartan to lead very quickly, making him the natural leader of the spartans and eventually the 'last' spartan in Halo: CE. The only thing he really cares about is being that mythical hero, and he learns as a child in that program that there is more to being a hero (for example, being a leader means you have to know when to spend the lives of your men because you can't win and keep them all alive).
This all creates this very assertive and focused character. He has to be the figurehead that not only regular men but especially his Spartans look up to as a guiding light because the man in charge CANNOT be an emotional wreck because that destroys morale.
Starting with the beginning of Halo:CE, now that his entire family is dead (well, most anyway). The only people he really cared to talk to are gone, so we have this almost completely silent protagonist beyond giving out orders and occasionally speaking to the few friends he makes (like Cortana, Foehammer, Sergeant Johnson, and the Arbiter). He does NOT lack emotions. He is just a private person by monumental grief and nearly equal necessity.
That wasn't just John, every child they kidnapped to make a Spartan had a clone.
@@gagejohnathan9641 Yep, and they said they had never perfected the cloning process so all the clones ended up dying young. And all the kids were told they couldn't return to their parents, but that they were going to become the defenders of humanity.
@@sarinat3101 Yep. In fact, the imperfect nature of the cloning process was actually in their favor since it made for self-disposing evidence.
And, oddly enough, there’s even a scene in The Fall of Reach where Halsey is discussing exactly why false memories or inflicted amnesia would be a bad idea. Both have a hefty chance of causing crippling brain damage, and even if they don’t their permanence would always be in question. The program already had an assload of dangerous enhancement procedures in place, and Halsey quite rightly didn’t see the point in an extra one whose goal would already be met by virtue of indoctrinating then from the age of 6.
@@electricbayonet2 , not only that she also entertained the idea of straight up lying to Spartans or witholding info from them, but immediately dismissed it, since if truth got out, there would be a great chance of the rebellion or worse. The TV show is meant to represent women and minorities in a good light, but their actions did anything but. Halsey we see in the Show is irrational, acts on instincts and emotions, insecure and not trustworthy. All of these qualities are not signs of a Strong and Independent Woman, but of a cowardly liar, who hides behind people's backs and stabs them given the opportunity.
I always perceived Halsey as a woman of science and logic, who would also show her motherly side to Spartans, even if it was in her own interests. The way they portrait her in the show just insults me.
Ironically, the idea of a fighting man suffering troubles from an emotion inhibitor was done long ago and far better by Equilibrium. Preston did not lose his training, his martial ability, or his tactical thinking by becoming emotional, and he proves that he can fully control his emotions when the time comes.
Was Preston a child soldier who had been abducted from his family?
I've only seen that movie once and don't quite remember.
@hoos3014 No. He lived in a society that forced everyone to take a drug that suppresses emotion. His training was indicated to be from his late youth/early adulthood, as it was many levels above that of the regular soldiers, bordering on the mystic (a sort of gun-fu). Not quite super soldier, but leaning in that direction.
Anyway, the drug was administered to everyone, including children, so he would have lived with it his whole life.
Equilibrium is a very underrated movie, loved the idea of the "Gun-Fu" very original, we need movies like this today like desperately in Hollywood!
Master Cheeks, saving the world by crying.
this show is important ok?! MEN SHOULD SHOW THEIR FEEFEES TOO!
LEAVE MY MASTER CHEEKS AKONE!
@@denkerbosu3551no.
Jimmy Rings sounds like a character in a Sonic parody. He sounds like he'd sell me all kinds of ring-like commodities and foods.
Well if they're going to rip-off _Universal Soldier_ they have to do the scene where he cuts a thing out of himself.
Ignoring that in US is was a tracking device and Luc Deveraux's increasing level of humanity came from his exposure to everyday humanity and the slow recovery of his suppressed memories from his previous life.
Frongo: "What d'you think of... th-this shyoow..?"
E of R: [peaces out]
Fringbo Lonesum: "Oh... oh."
Oblong Johnson: "Oooh myyyy, sir."
There was no yod in the way he said show. Only Americans are this bad at transliterating
I never watched the Show and never will but just by listening to, what they did to Halo, hurts my soul.
same
We should have had a Proper adaptation of Spartan 3's and the book the Ghost of Onyx. We need Kurt. Also Chief in the books is while not quite chatty but more in line with the 343 Halo 4 version. He talks but no line should be wasted.
The halo novels do a great job of humanizing chief in a way the games don't. We get a lot more of his internal monologs. We see him struggle with the deaths of comrades, feel uncomfortable whenever he's not got a clear objective, and want to take on the guilt of every step backwards throughout the human covenant war.
It's real simple the righteous of this show have never met or engaged with a really stoic reserved man
So when they see a man who is like that they think that he must have had something done in terms of a chip in his brain or a chip in his body that's making him that way because people just can't be that way
John was not the smartest, the fastest or the strongest, he was the luckiest.
This is false. John was the jack of all trades. And his luck wasnt that he was good at lottery. It was that he made his own luck when fate wouldnt play ball.
@@_NutcasE_ dear God, its literally in the first book.
@@McCowski yes in the first book fall of reach where halsey tosses the coin. And the key moment is when john grabs the coin when its about to land badly
@@McCowski maybe you should read fall of reach again.
@@McCowski the coin toss scene she tosses coin and chief guesses it correct. Until its about to land false. He grabs it midair and presents the side he guessed. Making his own luck.
I've been waiting for someone to clip E;R escaping from the Halo show lol.
I like to think of it more as the Halo show finally killing E;R, it did what Korra couldn’t. Now we have E;R 2, or maybe it’s RED E;R who knows since we can only see his face.
The emotion pill seems like a writing crutch that the show doesnt need. The have been numerous studies on children that aren't properly socialized, and its been well documented how bad that is for a persons development. They dont need the pill to have a stoic soldier character confront normal life and their emotions for thd the first time. Universal soldier did that excellently decades ago.
Hell, talk to actual combat veterans lol
I see this was before The Act Man's transition to Ma'am.
I hope he gets pronouns in all his videos
a good example of inhibited emotion and subsequent uninhibited emotion is christian bale's character in equilibrium...
when he stopped taking those pills, it doesn't diminish his abilities and faculties...
NOOOO! E;R get out before the drunk Intel. Asset asks you to visit an island. IT’S A TRAP!
10:25 MauLer brings up Bucky here, but didn’t MGS4 do something similar too? The nanomachines in soldiers suppressing their emotions about killing, but when those nanomachines are suddenly turned off, it all floods them at once leading to a massive ’oh god what have I done’ moment for all of them
I thought it was just pain inhibitors. I recall a scene where Raiden gets Bluetooth connected to all the goons he's fighting and hears their thoughts of being scared to die. It might have been emotion inhibitors turning off but I just assumed the game was humanizing the bad guys by showing thoughts they've been having the whole game fighting and dying to Raiden.
@@jobiy1999 If I'm not mistaken, you're talking about MG Rising Revengeance, not MGS4 (Old Snake, "War has changed", different nanomachines used by PMCs for different war economy)
@@jobiy1999 pretty sure that you’re talking about a scene in Rising Revengence. Those might be a separate type of nanomachines
Ahh yeah I'm mistaken. I was totally thinking of revengance.
@@jobiy1999 Got set off by the trigger word: "Nanomachines son!"
Ever feel like Rags just doesn’t listen to the other hosts, because he’ll just straight up repeat what somebody said 2 minutes ago
Dude loves the sound of his own voice.
Those are his "Biden moments"TM, he has them about once every 2 streams.
0:04 the best OUGH i've ever heard
Halo: Forward unto Dawn was way better imo
Hell this even makes Nightfall look good by comparison...
@@peanutgallery4 nah its too forgettable even for that
@@peanutgallery4 Yeah no, I'd definitely watch this over Nightfall, I can at least get some ironic enjoyment out of this.
Oh boy, the Act Man... "Halo is back!" he shouted with soy-induced glee
You guys really need to get over the 'soy' thing.
@@akashajones6079you need to quit simping
@@akashajones6079 There's a lotta weirdos going after him latly. Best to ignore them as they'll be chasing someone else's throat next week.
What the fuck does this even mean
@@dudebruh8534
"Weirdos"
I mean, leaking private messages between yourself, and another person without their permission, in a vain attempt at internet clout is what most normal people would consider a reprehensible move? Pretty reasonable to be upset about.
Thank christ the john ring series doesnt touch Rookie and Buck.
If the paramount trash fire did touch ODST. Dont tell me. Ignorance is bliss.
Never watched the series, do they touch Noble team? And very specifically, 6, who in lore is the only other Spartan to essentially be equal to Master Chief.
@@darkraiking680thankfully, noone can answer your question, because nobody fucking watched this garbage fire of a show
@@darkraiking680there's no reason to think Chief is just on a different level from the other Spartan 2's. Cortana acknowledges that among his company, he's pretty average at basically every thing applicable to battle, and she makes a very hard judgement that he was the best, largely because of an unquantifiable "luck" that had kept him alive. The whole Hyper Lethal Vector thing MC and Noble 6 have isn't in lore, I think it was just Halo Reach marketing.
Don’t worry, 343 already assassinated Rookie. Literally.
@@peanutgallery4 I thought the hyper lethal vector thing was also brought up in some books. Also, pretty sure Noble 6 is a Spartan 3.
But i think my overall point is that Noble team was great. Noble 6 was also the one chosen by Cortona to deliver her, before being paired with Master Chief, and that was in game knowledge.
Master chef in the books is also super competitive and want to achieve more when the best score when he was trained.
He is lucky = He will shape fate itself with his own hands as much as he can.
Master cheeks ahh yes. John Halo the Robo Glitch.
Another benefit of these highlights - apparently I missed this entire episode! Queueing it up
117 was also portrayed as more mechanical than human he was built to be a weapon for humanity and Cortana was his humanity despite being an AI (Cortana has a great line in the games about this). It was one of the more defining parts of the game and the books and a theme that will stick with me for my lifetime. It is also a key reason for him never being seen outside his armor, again he is being portrayed as nothing more than a weapon, that is how he sees himself and how a lot of those who created him see him. Not a person but a tool to serve the human race. The loss of Cortana, while not a thing I personally agreed with, was what brought about the biggening's of chief have to face his humanity (this could have been done in a really interesting way but 343 failed in my opinion).
The man the myth the legend JIMMY RINGS
he's a beta in every series he plys in starting from that horrifically ghey and VERY STUPID series American Gods.....
I know we’re all used to it by now, but I find it funny that Master Chief’s name is essentially “leader leader”, and I think that’s really cool.
Short for "master chief petty officer," kind of like a navy version of sergeant major.
Other commenter mentioned it but Master Chief is a real world navy rank.
Master Commander Captain Officer Leader Boss Man Big Cheese Chief.
@@ethanfox8979
But why? He's an infantry soldier.
@Killer36661 The Spartan program fell under the Naval Special Warfare Division of the UNSC Navy. Basically, it's like Navy Seals, who all have Navy ranks.
I agree they should have made this about the world and not focus on a main character while using meister schaffe as a conduit for the audience.
And for fuck sake keep the helmet on! we have no need to c ya face!
Im not even a massive fan but this portrayal grinds my gears
I'd have loved a show with a bunch of grunts that are the characters getting wrapped up in master cheifs madness. Like imagine they have orders to take a balcony, and up there master cheif is almost cartoonishly defeating a number of covenant. Most of em are super hype but have a character or 2 that are absolutely terrified. Cause if their situation requires the chief that means that the squad mortality has increased sevenfold. And just have the escalation continue to mad levels. Hell even get the flood involved and end it with a last tragic odst just ending it. Do a good story about the isolation of a hero left not by his own will but the tragedy of his circumstance.
See, you have what's called imagination. These writers were given the jobs for much different reasons.
Oh it’s the act man, rip
He died?
@@Lauren007E no
@@Lauren007E After the stunt he pulled, you're gonna wish he did.
@@Lauren007E
Yes.
From a certain point of view...
@@_Dovar_ from "sjws ruin vidya" to "i hope there are pronouns in every game" and finally "people hire sbi? They should just hire writers instead, lol!"
Dude's a mercenary, will go where it's acceptable to go.
Put a chip in it and make it LAME!
The best Halo movie isnt a Halo movie, its called Soldier starring Kurt Russel, just needed to put him in a suit with a helmet.
Wait wait wait . . . Master chief gets paid ?? I thought he was just a tool of the military . Not a paid mercenary . . .
Nope, that’s in the standard lore - the UNSC still technically has to follow the rules in regard to treating the Spartans like regular soldiers, so they have to get paid. It even becomes a plot point in one of the books when one officer checks the paymaster records and realizes that these (supposed) 19-year-olds have been getting paid for 8 years.
I love how all this "generic man" jokes started, at least in my belief, with the Ben and Tom from The Yogscast.
Durring a charity stream, they bring up how shit the new warhammer 40k lore is in regards to making old names mean something. Turning "land raider" into not just a description of the vehicle, but instead the name of the dude who built it. Fucking Arkhan Land.
This evolves into a superchat telling them that The Emperor is actually Jimmy Space, and he created the Space Marines.
From then on, ive seen an exponential increase in people calling things "john ----"
It's like they took the "I think Halo is a pretty cool guy" meme and turned it a TV show.
“He cares about the marines around him” -flashes back to halo 3 running out of ammo surrounded by marines-
"Sure, I'll take that almost empty assault rifle and give you this shotgun and my 25 rounds, thanks chief"
People don't realize Kathleen Kennedy actually consulted on this show, specifically for Master Chief.
Her only documented input was that she asked they "put a chip in him, make him more lame"
Honestly, the idea of Chief acting how he does because of an emotional inhibitor is an idea I very much dislike. I like that Chief is naturally stoic. Not cause of a machine.
Master Nose is a better name, leeches stealing good IPs
Master Noose, the one all our characters go through before having their skin peeled off and worn.
Imagine heelvsbabyface in this one? 😏
Halo is about a human becoming more AI and a AI becoming more human and Master chief is connected to humanity through Cortona
Ahh before the fall. Oh well. At least we have memories. Like with Sahdpaw
Karl Urban could have done Master Chief better.
Hughie, I'm a SUPE soldier hughie!
I would've loved Karl Urban as Master Chief. He was so damn good in Dredd & could've bought a similar energy to a well written Halo show/movie
Act Ma'am is a snake
That's an insult to actual snake.
@@diamondheadify-v5i haha, fair point. My apologies to snakekind 😂
@@ViolentMessiah666 The cardboard box quietly starts scooting away
"Colonel, I'm trying to leak the DMs of Silverback Gorilla!"
Why ma'am?
"WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOORRRRR???!!!!" - Jimmy "Master Cheeks" Rings
I firmly believe that Ass-ter Cheeks surgery scene is the reason why Season 2 is getting an EFAP TV treatment.
Seeing er on a podcast with act man is retrospectively hilarious
Fringy’s lookin’ to make some Democracy chips for the marines.
Ahhh, before Act Man showed his true colors as just another content farm who doesn’t care about anything other than himself and his childhood play things.
The series is downright awful
Briefly listened to my GF's parents discuss the show last night.
It was quite odd.
Suprised to see Act Man here, I thought he'd be busy enjoying Payday 3
This is a clip from an episode from almost 2 years ago...
This is what I do with the 3rd Spider-Man movie. Venom wasn't in that movie. Venom speak in first person plural, is fuggen jacked, long red tongue, growly voice. Nope, he ain't there, just like Master Chief isn't in the Halo show.
The ultimate flaw of the Halo show is that it did not set out to adapt halo
8:20 depends on how long he's had the chip. If it's been decades, it makes sense for him to be overly emotional because he has lost the practical capacity to restrain his emotions via disuse. In fact, he should probably be a neurotic, nonfunctional mess, if he's had that chip for his entire remembered life.
*E;R has left the chat*
Master Chief was not the best Spartan, he was just the luckiest.
I wonder how they’ll feel about the way the show handled the Fall of Reach.
That was seriously the perfect intro
If the Chief takes off his helmet, we do NOT see his face.
Just checking, but did Rags, at any point, say anything along the following lines?
"I don't care about the games."
or
"I don't care about the books."
?
No, this time it was Paramount that said it!
@@nhagan001
The only reason I ask, is that Rags *has said those very things* with regards to other films / tv series, etc - *especially* when people are attempting to explain why something is the way it is.
@@TheMaleReiwhy is it bad that he wants to judge something on its own merits as a story rather than be bombarded with things that ultimately arent relevant?
@@xion0713
Not what I'm saying.
I'm pointing out he's selective.
And there's nothing wrong with being selective.
I simply want him to *OWN IT.*
@@xion0713
Addendum - since Paramount said this is a separate timeline, it could be argued that everything *outside* the TV series timeline is "ultimately aren't relevant" too.
Again, just own it.
Hey, don't get me wrong, I enjoy the disembowelment EFAP performs on various films and shows and videos.
Own.
It.
I’ve said it before, and I shall repeat for posterity: the greatest sin committed by 343 Industries is the nuclear-weapons grade destruction of Chief and Cortana’s characters.
John-117 is a cybernetic super soldier with the emotional range of a machine. Cortana is an artificial computer construct who’s the most emotionally dynamic character in the games. Both are two halves that create a cohesive whole when together.
Which is why it’s world-class retardation to kill off Cortana, immediately bring her back just to make her the villain, and then kill her AGAIN and replace her with a hollow facsimile. Not to mention, the mischaracterization of Chief, where everyone seems dead set on exploring the character’s humanity, which does nothing but complicate the plot.
As far as I’m concerned, Chief and Cortana are still drifting in space amongst the ruins of the Forward Unto Dawn. Waiting for the day we wake them. When we need them…a day that hopefully comes sooner than much, much later.
I thought 343 did a good job with Halo 4, Chief was done exactly like the original books. Cortana was written perfectly and went out saving Chiefs life and had her best design.
@@prufan Yeah I mean, there are indications of good storytelling in that game, but it ultimately falls flat in the long run.
I mean, the FIRST thing you do once acquiring full creative control after Bungie departed Microsoft after Halo Reach, is to kill off one of the main protagonists, in an epic climax that wasn’t well built towards, in what was heavily advertised as the “return of the Halo franchise” after seemingly closing the book on Chief’s war.
And they’ve been picking up the scraps ever since.
If anything, Halo 4 felt like it should’ve been at the VERY end of Master Chief’s saga. As in: never planning on using him again. Cause as I said: Master Chief without Cortana doesn’t work well.
Not to say that 343 hasn’t learned their lesson. After all, I thought that Halo Infinite was a baby-step in the right direction. In regard to the gameplay, character design, and even certain angles of the plot. Though, the story still suffers the sins of its forefathers.
@@prufanI like 4 except for the Forerunner Genesong stuff. It made Chief a Chosen One. If that part was omitted and the rest was canon I'd be fine with it as a story. Gameplay wise I wasn't too crazy about it. 5 was a huge disappointment for me. I was loving the marketing (audio show included) then the game was nonsense and you could tell it wasn't done campaign or MP wise.
Bonnie would later say before Infinite they thought of finishing the plot with a Halo 5.5.
I wish they did. At least they seemed to have a plan with 5. I would have let them cook rather than dumping the plot, again.
I'm sorry but no, that's not even worse thing 343 has done, not by a long shot. Changing the Forerunners into space Voldemorts completely changes and retcons the Covenant's entire motivation for destroying humanity. Halo just doesn't happen unless the Prophets realize the same gods they worship were "left behind" on the Great Journey and need to be swept under the rug for their bullshit religion to function.
I've never actually watched any part of this EFAP (only knew of the show from E;R's reviews), when does Bo Katan get involved?
Oh the irony in how right you are, in a way.
There is that kind of character… she’s a HUMAN WOMAN that works with the Covenant.
You know, the “we will activate the halo rings because it is our destiny” guys?!
Because of course the crazy alien leaders in halo were all about working with humans!
@@nhagan001 MovieBob was right all along, lmao.
Does she end up "appropriating" the title of Master Chief at some point?
@@charlesruteal9062 fortunately no! She just bangs him I believe!
Keep in mind I only keep up with Halo through Fringy’s coverage of it. You could put a picture of her up on screen right now, and I would not be able to tell you her name!
The fact they hired an actor who literally said he hates Halo is mind blowing
I really hate the whole inhibitor chip memory thing cause i remember in (Halo legeneds i believe it was called) one of the stories had a spartan find her replacement duplicate. And she had her gun on the clone but didnt shoot it, then on the other end there was her partner who on the ride back is holding his head saying he thinks he shot his.
Like it's such a sad sacrifice that they make but given the threat of the covenant they have to bite the bullet and be content that their families were able to have a peaceful passing with their clone rather than knowing their real kid is being sent to help save the galaxy but was abducted and augmented to high hell.
If I recall one of the spartans who found their clone ended themself too. I loved Legends. Daisy had a cameo in one of the last good Halo books. She was still a smart ass at that point but when I saw her name and number I remembered her from that short film 😢
@@AzayBaeGod, it’s already been 6 years since Silent Storm came out, and we really haven’t gotten anything close to that good since then (even though most novels released in the interim were written by the same guy!)
@@samlund8543 I loved Silent Storm. I read Oblivion and don't recall disliking it but nothing stuck in my head from it.
I never bothered with the novel after. It was too close to the 343i plot so I lost interest.
At least this shit show makes Forward Unto Dawn more appreciated. That and the ODST trailer are the real halo movies.
That dude interrupts the hell out of everyone
Oh wow, everyone look:
It's the Act Man!
*"It's Act MA'AM!!!"*
Sorry, my bad miss.
These episodes are way better with Act Maam muted
Oh its ActMAAAAM!! :D :D :D
This must be reeally old stuff...
I would argue that Bungie was definitely leaning in the direction of "Halsey is an unrepentant monster" by the time of _Halo: Reach_ with the revelation that she created Cortana by secretly flash-cloning herself over and over, murdering each of these innocent girls when they evinced some minor genetic flaw, and then finally, when she had managed to produce her one, perfect clone, burning out that girl's brain to create the Cortana AI. It's actually something of a triumphant moment in _Reach_ when Carter A-259, who was augmented by Col. James Ackerson's rival Spartan-III program (which itself was created specifically to fight the Covenant, not independence-minded human colonists trying to escape the heavy hand of the United Earth Government) essentially tells Halsey to go fuck herself.
TBF in the normal lore she didn’t actually clone whole humans, just the brains, which were never conscious or functional (at least any more than any other organ on its own). Remember that growing whole humans tends to lead to them dying anyway - something Halsey herself would be well acquainted with for the Spartan program, so it’s not like she’s innocent here.
@@samlund8543 perhaps that was the original story, but by the release of _Reach_ Bungie had retconned it to Halsey growing and killing multiple complete clones in order to (eventually) create Cortana (IIRC _The Journal of Catherine Halsey_ document that was included with some of the more exclusive editions of _Reach_ has actual sketches of the clones themselves at various stages of development).
Even if apparently season 2 is better than 1 he will always be mastercheeks and not the chief. It would probably be way better if you just skipped season 1 because it adds barely anything of value.
What happened to Act Man, man?
He became cringe all round
Don't deadname. It's Act Ma'am!
They should have gave master chief the Saitama treatment from one punch man. He comes in at the last minute to save the day. He looks awesome and changes the story but maybe doesn't always get the credit.
It was always going to be challenging to include such an iconic character. But, I honestly rather have them only have 117 in cameos and center the show around someone else.
4:26 the problem is it's the same issue with those writers of the Witcher netflix series, and the writers of the Avatar live-action series, everytime they do a adaptation of some classic thing that fans love, they don't care about the lore, most of these writers have never even read the original book or video-game they adapting a series off of; and so they have no care for that source material. their aim, goal and only interest is to subvert, deconstruct and re-contextualize the original source material and aim it solely at the MODERN AUDIENCE, you know, young people who have never watched, followed or grew up with those classic things. And the really sly thing about what they do here is they make sure their "Live-Action" series looks exactly like that classic thing on a visual level, so the costumes, overall look of the characters, production sets, worlds, characters etc all look fine - really cool. this is evident in the 2024 Avatar last airbender, they got those actors looking 100% to a t exactly like the animated series characters. Netflix Witcher and here with Paramount Halo are all the same, pretty much spot on with the look. this is a very sly tactic used to trick and draw in all us Oldskool Fans of those classic things, to manipulate us, decieve us into believing this is going to be 100% Faithful to the source material because the visual look of it is there.
then you start watching the actual show and about 1-2 episodes in you soon realize you've been deceived and had that rug pulled right from under you. this was why as soon as that first trailer dropped for Paramount Halo, and i learned the Actor would be taking his helmet off in the show; that when i ultimately chose not to watch it. this Paramount Halo series doesn't even deserve a second season, people should all just not even watch the entire series, they should tune out after like 2 episodes in and really fuck with the viewing figures and ratio; that's what happened to Amazon's Rings of Power series. I just really don't understand why people continue to watch these terrible adaps all the way through, believing in their second seasons they're going to improve anything to make them faithful to the original source material, these writers and showrunners have already proved what their goal is from the start.
This show was so painfully written and executed.
Prop department did pretty well, which is rather disappointing.
Battle Rifles look oversized in the Spartan characters' hands, though.
@@CanadianPale I did say pretty well, not perfect.
I think part of that problem is these are real people, whereas spartans are fucking giants
.....Where the fuck is seargant Johnson!?!?!
His name is Mandalore Chef, get it right!
I remember the showrunners making fun about the fact that they never played the games or read the books and actually mocked them and never consulted with anyone who did. Not surprised it turned out like garbage
"Jimmy rings" lmfao thats great
Master Chief is it supposed to be another human. He supposed to be a legend and a hero, he’s not supposed to deal with trauma. He’s supposed to be bigger than that. The type of guy that everyone looks up to, and and when crap goes south and goes south hard he will be there to save the day. And I think that’s what the halo shows missing.