1980s judo was simply MAGICAL

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • This video discusses the old style of judo in the 1980s, a world championship final between Yamamoto and Sokolov.
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  • @ryuu21
    @ryuu21 6 місяців тому +38

    nearly everything in the 80's was better! 😃🥋

    • @marceloisoni9158
      @marceloisoni9158 6 місяців тому +5

      Take NBA for example. So true. Way more fun

    • @jackfisher1921
      @jackfisher1921 6 місяців тому +2

      A lot has changed since those days. Unfortunately, many of those changes made things worse.

    • @anthonywong1158
      @anthonywong1158 6 місяців тому +2

      Yes, boxing too!

    • @uvw456-m3o
      @uvw456-m3o 6 місяців тому

      И даже Мерседес ☝️😀

    • @flowrepins6663
      @flowrepins6663 6 місяців тому

      Everything but technology. Even so 80s music and movies were the best. So mostly everything but gaming for what matters

  • @kerpal321
    @kerpal321 6 місяців тому +16

    80s and 90s forever

  • @BURGAWMMA
    @BURGAWMMA 6 місяців тому +15

    I was introduced to Judo in 1983 Hawai'i and it quickly became evident that it was the ultimate martial art for the civilized world because it taught you to win the takedown without hurting your opponent. As a martial art it remained perfect however as a sport it continued to go down a rabbit hole of overly complex rules and always suffered terribly from American Commercial martial arts FIEFDOM politics. Ultimately it was swallowed by flashy martial arts trends gassed up by ridiculous movies however with the rise of the Soviet Bloc wrecking machines in mixed martial arts Judo will finally get its respected place in the martial arts hierarchy even though it's been bedevilled by ridiculous rule changes largely motivated by nothing more than Executives trying to boost television appeal.
    Unfortunately it's probably unmarketable in the United States because it's far too complex and its large arcing throws are far too frightening to nervous mothers especially when there's a buttscooting bjj gym in every American town
    At my club we only teach JUDO as a martial art and are careful to avoid the ridiculous rules of grappling sports

    • @bobkk-ev5ls
      @bobkk-ev5ls 6 місяців тому +2

      Amazing thank you for your comments.

    • @gustavobaptista7176
      @gustavobaptista7176 5 місяців тому +2

      You are totally right

    • @ninjakicks808
      @ninjakicks808 3 місяці тому

      Where did you learn in Hawaii?

    • @BURGAWMMA
      @BURGAWMMA 3 місяці тому

      @@ninjakicks808 back in 1983 I met some Samoan kids at a beach park... they had a group who trained at a Japanese guy's estate in the area called orchidland. Sumo was super popular at the time so we did mostly sumo and judo. The family name was Okano

  • @MC-tm2uy
    @MC-tm2uy 6 місяців тому +2

    The IJF and the Olympics have been the two worst things that happened to Judo

  • @thinkordie7292
    @thinkordie7292 6 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for your work and knowledge, Chadi. Across all arts there's become a "sportifycation" trend that can prove harmful in the future. Keeping the history and root dynamics is paramount. 🙏🏾

  • @RedNinja673
    @RedNinja673 6 місяців тому +11

    I started my Judo Journey in 1993. I remember tournaments being raw and rugged. I am currently trying to open my own school. I plan on having a class each day teaching Judo the way i learned it.

    • @flowrepins6663
      @flowrepins6663 6 місяців тому +2

      Do it..judo is martial art for self defense and fighting not for sport and points. If you do for what matters teaching real judo you got no competition in other schools.

    • @chcknpie04
      @chcknpie04 6 місяців тому +1

      @@flowrepins6663that’s silly. Kano sensei himself appreciated the value of sport and of approaching fighting as a game. Even the self defense stuff.

    • @michaellopez2070
      @michaellopez2070 5 місяців тому +1

      Hell yah. Thanks.

  • @zenly_csgo
    @zenly_csgo 6 місяців тому +3

    5.45 is not Ronda Rousey roll it is Old Sambo armbar turn which was released russian sambo-judo wrestler Yatskevich - he ran to the west and teach it to Neil Adams who made it as own signature move but it was actually sambo regular action

  • @Grapplezilla
    @Grapplezilla 6 місяців тому +3

    Fantastic video and you are 100% right on 80's Judo being Magical!

  • @thejudocommunity
    @thejudocommunity 6 місяців тому +1

    This judo was way more multifaceted. Great discussion.

  • @コニタン-e8x
    @コニタン-e8x 6 місяців тому +1

    山本洋祐選手は大学2年の時、世界学生で釣手に十字固めを極められて靭帯を断裂し、暫く得意の背負い投げが出来なくなりました。
    それだけに十字固めへの対策はかなり研究されていたのでしょう。それでも十字固めを得意とするソコロフ選手にあそこまで入られて逃げ切ったのには驚かされました。

  • @jleano609
    @jleano609 6 місяців тому

    More standing techniques facilitated by freer grips to the ENTIRE body, more time on the ground to develop position and submission, this is the judo I grew up with training through the 80s and getting my Shodan in 1989 in London. Adams, Kashiwazaki, Koga (RIP) and of course Yamashita were our heroes. To me it was more dynamic, rough and tumble but still highly technical and I'm so sorry Visser et al at the IJF have neutered this style over the years - BUT NOT IN MY DOJO!!!!!!

  • @boogboog8097
    @boogboog8097 6 місяців тому

    Started judo in 1984 we trained 50/50 ground standing but then the dan grades teaching had learned their judo in the 50s and 60s and their teachers were connected back to pre war judo, i suspect they also had catch wrestling as their ground game was very strong, hasnt taken very many generations for all that tradition to be thrown away.
    I really dont care for modern "Olympic" Judo.

  • @SoldierDrew
    @SoldierDrew 6 місяців тому +2

    Gen X Judo

  • @danqfrank44
    @danqfrank44 6 місяців тому +2

    @chadi, youre going to see me post a docuseries soon! thank you for being in the judo world

    • @MagickArmory
      @MagickArmory 6 місяців тому

      On you tube? What channel

  • @shrimuyopa8117
    @shrimuyopa8117 6 місяців тому

    They grabbed eachother's legs? How barbaric!

  • @BACKTOOLDSCHOOL01
    @BACKTOOLDSCHOOL01 Місяць тому

    much less grip fighting

  • @BURGAWMMA
    @BURGAWMMA 6 місяців тому

    The greatest thing about classic Judo rules were the incremental scoring and the way the big throws could "knockout" any cumulative score... I understand why they took minor scores away in an effort to boost reliance on IPPON however it's backfired and far too many contests end via shido.
    I would bring back leg grabs plus minor scores and I would settle golden score with "sumo" criteria... this is the perfect way to handle the SPORT of judo!
    At the very least they could Institute Sumo criteria for Golden score so we don't end up with all these ridiculous disqualifications

  • @MagickArmory
    @MagickArmory 6 місяців тому

    Chadi question why don't you use that awesome background music you used to use in all your videos anymore ? Do you or anyone have the info on it and where I can get it

  • @veteransowhat5669
    @veteransowhat5669 6 місяців тому

    God, I want that woman.

  • @dianecenteno5275
    @dianecenteno5275 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Chadi!

  • @shaheed-m9m
    @shaheed-m9m 6 місяців тому

    So true

  • @nicolaedan4437
    @nicolaedan4437 6 місяців тому

    At min 4:23 it was a te-guruma clear as the light day,not a sukui-nage...

    • @ResTAnimous
      @ResTAnimous 6 місяців тому

      Te guruma doesn’t exist, jigoro never named a technique like this

    • @nicolaedan4437
      @nicolaedan4437 6 місяців тому

      @@ResTAnimous Kyuzo Mifune,a direct student of Jigoro Kano seems to know very well how to execute te-guruma...hmm must be his innovation according to you!

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  6 місяців тому +1

      They’re the same technique, techniques had several names, like kuki nage and Sumi otoshi, the official Kodokan name is Sukui nage.

    • @nicolaedan4437
      @nicolaedan4437 6 місяців тому

      @@Chadi ua-cam.com/video/2zO-N1ElH18/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared I could be wrong,but here in this video Kyuzo Mifune present 2 versions of te-guruma called like that in Japanese...

    • @nicolaedan4437
      @nicolaedan4437 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Chadi since Kodakan officialy name it sukui-nage,we are both right but I still prefer the version name I was taught in childhood, te-guruma.Thank you so much for all your good work!,,

  • @Leopar525
    @Leopar525 6 місяців тому +1

    This is why jiujitsu will become superior than judo even for take downs. Because they allow leg grabs and overall has less restrictions, making it more valid as a martial art. I would just love to see judo come back from app the watering down as it actually had everything in the past

    • @kaizenproductions00
      @kaizenproductions00 6 місяців тому +3

      Half of them don't even wrestle or do Judo competently. Yes they're unmatched in newaza but most just sit down or pull guard during their training

    • @bunkaiking
      @bunkaiking 6 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂 go back to sleep

    • @jleano609
      @jleano609 6 місяців тому

      Actually, you are not wrong, and I say that as a Judo Sandan and recently starting BJJ Blue Belt. There is a TREMENDOUS thirst to develop standing takedown abilities in parts of the BJJ community and get back to their Judo roots and they are currently unencumbered by dumb rules. Perhaps I'm lucky but my coach (under Carlos Machado btw) has a great respect for Judo and wishes he learned it before BJJ. Unlike most in that other dominant BJJ organization (I make an exception for the great Roger Gracie) there is full acknowledgement of the true history of BJJ development and the role of KODOKAN JUDO Sensei Mitsuyo Maeda - and no he wasn't a "Kosen Judo" man. Wrong university. Wrong timeline.
      Anyhoo, rant over. I actually have more latitude to do MY Judo as a Judoka who came up in the 80s, when training with the BJJ guys nowadays. Some of those guys come from a wrestling background and we have great tussles. I find myself defending single legs, double legs and pick-ups in the same way I was when Eastern Bloc fighters visited London in the late 1980s/Early 1990s and came along to the Budokwai and University of London practices to train. Some of those guys were BEASTS.
      And for BJJ guys, when one has developed one's ground game many are now asking the question, what about standing work? Any good fighter works on his weaknesses. Many are doing so, I say good luck to them and encourage them wherever I can. I can actually see, in the US at least a "Grand Reunification" of sorts taking place. I think Judo is dying here and in the same way that Koryu Jujutsu was subsumed in Judo, Judo will likely be subsumed into BJJ. But BJJ isn't really BJJ anymore, it's just the new "Jiu-Jitsu". And judo will hopefully survive that way.