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The hot hand can be a fallacy or a fact depending on the situation. In luck based pursuits like gambling it's a fallacy but in skull based pursuits doing well promotes a good mentality and demoralized opponents
The existential fallacy came up in thinking about the recent Betlegeuse sequel. One of the family members in the film is shown at civil service work in the afterlife, apparently following his accidental death. The original film exposited that suicide is what gets someone doing civil service, so I nearly called this an error. But I caught myself. The premise is that suicides become civil servants in the afterlife. It isn't necessarily that civil servants in the afterlife all committed suicide. Furthermore, we're going on minimal information. Only two charaters in the original film bring up this point. We're not told why it's true or given much detail about it.
I love that you caught yourself there! It’s easy to fall into the existential fallacy trap when a fictional world throws out random rules, especially ones about something as heavy as the afterlife. Just because the movie says *suicides become civil servants* doesn’t mean all civil servants must have gotten there that way. We’re not given the complete backstory, so it’s possible that other factors or accidents could lead to the same outcome. The original film definitely played fast and loose with its world-building, but honestly, that’s part of its charm.
So... In cladistics, dogs are fish... As are humans... we are just an evolved version of our ancestors... Fish. However, there is no taxonomic catetory of fish... So... yeah. Biology is weird. Also, trees aren't a thing either, taxonomically speaking.
This video really shows how we can make mistakes in our thinking every day. For example, consider a scenario where ice cream sales and drowning incidents both increase during summer. Someone might wrongly conclude that eating ice cream causes drowning, ignoring the fact that both are influenced by warm weather-more people eat ice cream and swim when it's hot. Have you ever made a silly judgment like this?
I live on strawman and other fallacies like that daily lol I literally can't make an argument without them so don't recruit me for a debate team I guess
Murders go up during summer, as do ice cream sales, so eating ice cream causes people to murder people. Reverse correlation: people murdering people is the reason it gets lighter and warmer during summer! ha ha
When meeting someone who is attractive and confident, people might assume they must have many good traits and be successful in life. Yet, statistically, attractiveness does not guarantee positive attributes like kindness or intelligence. It's interesting how we often judge people based on looks alone! Have you ever been surprised by someone's personality after initially being drawn to their appearance?
@@xxaavviieerrrrr Yep, that's the halo effect. It's like when you assume someone with great hair also knows how to fix the economy... turns out, they just have really great hair. 😄
@@LearnWithPaint I'm not sure. Isn't that a few plugs short of a toupee? He's been toning down the straw color since Bethel. It looks like L'Oreal ash blonde. Gives his "hair" a smoggy cast. Whaddya you think?
Well... the Mind Projection Fallacy explains a lot. Now I have an explanation for why I can't understand other people's opinions and feel that mine are the only correct ones. Add that to the Persecution Complex... I'm honestly not as bad a person as that sounds. I just have really unpopular taste.
So, put simply, a Fallacy, where we just assume that whatever is going on in our own heads must be the absolute truth, right? Reminds me of the confidence of a cat, thinking the whole world revolves around her, while everyone else is out here living their own reality. Honestly, though, I get it. It's so much easier to believe our opinions are the only rational ones because admitting there might be other valid perspectives means having to deal with all that cognitive dissonance. And who has the energy for that in this economy, if i am making sense? As for the persecution complex, well, welcome to the club. You’re not alone in feeling like the world just doesn't get you. Have a good day!
Very interesting stuff. It’s ironic how the *~~existential fallacy~~* presupposes the existence of things that aren’t there, kind of like my hopes of finishing grad school without completely burning out. So you can deduce conclusions from something that doesn’t exist? Sounds like me trying to explain my thesis progress to my advisor. Let’s be real, just because I said I’d finish all my reading by the weekend doesn’t mean any actual reading is happening. So, I guess in that sense, we’re all living out existential fallacies every day. *~~Mot and Bailey~~* definitely sounds less like a fallacy and more like an emotional defense mechanism anyone would have perfected in grad school. Make some big claim like, “Oh yeah, I’ll have the first draft done by Friday,” and when someone challenges it, retreat to something safer like, “Well, I meant a very _rough_ draft.” Honestly, this rhetorical strategy isn’t just a fallacy, probably more like a survival tactic.
It’s always a mixed bag watching videos about logical fallacies. I feel bad whenever I see one that I use but I also get excited whenever I see a new one. I have like a gollum relationship with these videos.
False Echo chamber fallacy: mistaking confidence in beliefs for an echo chamber Happens on all sides and has become more common as issues have become more extreme and divisiveness (I hope this doesn't contain a fallacy lol)
LOL. That’s a solid point, and I don’t think you’ve stumbled into any fallacies here - unless we’re both falling into one together, but hey, at least we’re consistent. Confidence in beliefs often gets confused with the idea of being stuck in an echo chamber, especially when people are passionate about their views. It’s definitely a challenge in today's world where extreme positions and divisiveness dominate the discourse, *look at our media for a blatant example* . It’s easy to label any strong opinion as coming from an echo chamber, but confidence can come from deep understanding and critical thinking, too. At the same time, though, I think there’s a fine line between having conviction in your beliefs and being unwilling to entertain opposing ideas.
@@PIZZAdayisback Haha, well, the fact that you're aware of trying to be unbiased already puts you ahead of a lot of people! But yeah, even trying too hard to be UNBIASED can sometimes backfire. As if a tightrope walk, trying so hard not to lean one way or the other that you end up in a weird neutral zone that might ignore important facts just for the sake of balance. Can we call it the *Middle Ground Fallacy* where you assume that the truth must always lie in the middle, even if one side is clearly more supported by evidence.
If consuming knowledge that's not on your level of understanding is a fallacy, yes I don't believe that qualifies as a fallacy though If you were in a serious argument and said "I don't understand that", you would lose the argument; but they wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't call you out on it in a meaningful way It's more like an admission of defeat, like the nerd emoji or just walking away
So - Just because something happen that doesn't mean it will happen again or in reverse - In an argument, there is no winner. People will find a way to avoid the truth or People may have a different view (which may be right in another way, for example: One may said it's a 6, Other may said it's a 9)
Oh, so according to this video, every single person who’s ever been wrong just doesn’t know what a fallacy is? Wow, way to simplify everyone’s mistakes! Clearly, the video thinks it's perfect, huh?
That's not what was presented - think you've missed the point..... You can be wrong but also not believe a fallacy, for example getting a maths question wrong. Nothing to do with fallacies.
I'm not sure I'd all "persuasive definition" a fallacy if it's literally true? One can call policemen professional liars, for example; they themselves would agree that they are professionals and policemen are trained to lie, particularly in undercover work...
But language isnt objective. Worda have subjective images and connotations. Thata the entire point of slurs being censored. Liar is a negatively connoted label, and ignoring that connotation is not something you can do when analyzing the given prospect and not do when encountering it in the wild. Does that make sense? Probably not.
definitions are not supposed to be persuasive, and though technically it can be true, people would do this to garner support for their side rather than to give an honest definition the example you gave isnt a definition, but rather it is a factual statement; if someone was using "liars" as the *definition* for policemen, then that would absolutely be a fallacy
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5:15 I ain't gonna hold you, that shit was a SMOOTH transition. I'm not even mad at you for having a sponsor.
but it's the same every time, you can see it coming from a mile away
@@toomanyblocks8448 not necessarily.
The hot hand can be a fallacy or a fact depending on the situation. In luck based pursuits like gambling it's a fallacy but in skull based pursuits doing well promotes a good mentality and demoralized opponents
True although I would think surely sometimes in skill based pursuits it can still be a fallacy or at least partly a fallacy
Indeed. One can be "in the groove" mentally which enhances performance in consecutive repetitions.
Skull based pursuits like hitting my head against the wall does indeed demoralize my neighbor over time.
@@lonestarr1490🤓🤓
@@Prince_.A me when I can't combat a basic insult that wasn't even directed at me:
THEY MADE A SEQUEL!!? NOW I CAN USE TWICE THE AMOUNT OF FALLACIES IN MY ARGUMENT!
Don't forget about stenograph. With that thing you can ratio someone with a never seen speeds ever.
These little guys look so cute
i also love red pandas
The existential fallacy came up in thinking about the recent Betlegeuse sequel.
One of the family members in the film is shown at civil service work in the afterlife, apparently following his accidental death.
The original film exposited that suicide is what gets someone doing civil service, so I nearly called this an error.
But I caught myself.
The premise is that suicides become civil servants in the afterlife. It isn't necessarily that civil servants in the afterlife all committed suicide.
Furthermore, we're going on minimal information. Only two charaters in the original film bring up this point. We're not told why it's true or given much detail about it.
I love that you caught yourself there! It’s easy to fall into the existential fallacy trap when a fictional world throws out random rules, especially ones about something as heavy as the afterlife. Just because the movie says *suicides become civil servants* doesn’t mean all civil servants must have gotten there that way. We’re not given the complete backstory, so it’s possible that other factors or accidents could lead to the same outcome. The original film definitely played fast and loose with its world-building, but honestly, that’s part of its charm.
Finally, a part two to the intro of a hyperfixation that has consumed my brain ever since.
LET'S GO GAMBLING !!!
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Might I suggest fixing the subtitles so they can be read properly? Thanks!
You can't do custom subtitles anymore I'm pretty sure
@@PIZZAdayisback it might depend on what device you use but im able to change the subtitles on my computer
@@PIZZAdayisback Not custom, just regular English
@@MatthewGoat91515 idk, it looked like English to me
It was just missing punctuation.
So... In cladistics, dogs are fish... As are humans... we are just an evolved version of our ancestors... Fish. However, there is no taxonomic catetory of fish... So... yeah. Biology is weird. Also, trees aren't a thing either, taxonomically speaking.
"ergo decedo" is literally what's going on in the gaming industry rn.
Yeah red pandas are so adorable
Red pandas are indeed cute
This video really shows how we can make mistakes in our thinking every day. For example, consider a scenario where ice cream sales and drowning incidents both increase during summer. Someone might wrongly conclude that eating ice cream causes drowning, ignoring the fact that both are influenced by warm weather-more people eat ice cream and swim when it's hot. Have you ever made a silly judgment like this?
I live on strawman and other fallacies like that daily lol
I literally can't make an argument without them so don't recruit me for a debate team I guess
@@PIZZAdayisback Haha, sounds like you're the MVP of the 'Fallacy Olympics'! 😂
Murders go up during summer, as do ice cream sales, so eating ice cream causes people to murder people. Reverse correlation: people murdering people is the reason it gets lighter and warmer during summer! ha ha
@@LearnWithPaint yeah, that's literally why I'm starting to disengage in politics
hey what about the drunk lost galaxy
When meeting someone who is attractive and confident, people might assume they must have many good traits and be successful in life. Yet, statistically, attractiveness does not guarantee positive attributes like kindness or intelligence. It's interesting how we often judge people based on looks alone! Have you ever been surprised by someone's personality after initially being drawn to their appearance?
yeah, isn't it called halo effect?
Look at Amber Heard
@@xxaavviieerrrrr Yep, that's the halo effect. It's like when you assume someone with great hair also knows how to fix the economy... turns out, they just have really great hair. 😄
@@PhilipHaseldine Right? It’s a classic case of 'Don’t judge a book by its cover
@@LearnWithPaint I'm not sure. Isn't that a few plugs short of a toupee? He's been toning down the straw color since Bethel. It looks like L'Oreal ash blonde. Gives his "hair" a smoggy cast. Whaddya you think?
Now do one for every dimension explained 🤯
I second that!
Well... the Mind Projection Fallacy explains a lot. Now I have an explanation for why I can't understand other people's opinions and feel that mine are the only correct ones. Add that to the Persecution Complex... I'm honestly not as bad a person as that sounds. I just have really unpopular taste.
So, put simply, a Fallacy, where we just assume that whatever is going on in our own heads must be the absolute truth, right? Reminds me of the confidence of a cat, thinking the whole world revolves around her, while everyone else is out here living their own reality. Honestly, though, I get it. It's so much easier to believe our opinions are the only rational ones because admitting there might be other valid perspectives means having to deal with all that cognitive dissonance. And who has the energy for that in this economy, if i am making sense?
As for the persecution complex, well, welcome to the club. You’re not alone in feeling like the world just doesn't get you. Have a good day!
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can you give an example of an if-by-whiskey?
EDIT: i just read the whiskey speech, now I know what an if-by-whiskey is
2:53 is the positive definition not also bias?
it is
Very interesting stuff.
It’s ironic how the *~~existential fallacy~~* presupposes the existence of things that aren’t there, kind of like my hopes of finishing grad school without completely burning out. So you can deduce conclusions from something that doesn’t exist? Sounds like me trying to explain my thesis progress to my advisor. Let’s be real, just because I said I’d finish all my reading by the weekend doesn’t mean any actual reading is happening. So, I guess in that sense, we’re all living out existential fallacies every day.
*~~Mot and Bailey~~*
definitely sounds less like a fallacy and more like an emotional defense mechanism anyone would have perfected in grad school. Make some big claim like, “Oh yeah, I’ll have the first draft done by Friday,” and when someone challenges it, retreat to something safer like, “Well, I meant a very _rough_ draft.” Honestly, this rhetorical strategy isn’t just a fallacy, probably more like a survival tactic.
okay but that sponsor transition was absolutely flawless. i even saw it coming it was just that good i couldnt be upset. well played, Paint Explainer
3:15 No way...
Bro we got Every Logical Fallacy Explained 2 before GTA6 holy shit
Motte-and-Bailey is better known as Steelmanning
Ergo Decedo seems soooo common in deflecting criticism these days.
Ok so I do some of these, specifically the Motte-and-Bailey and Definitional Retreat, oopsies
It’s always a mixed bag watching videos about logical fallacies. I feel bad whenever I see one that I use but I also get excited whenever I see a new one. I have like a gollum relationship with these videos.
It feels like we live in an illogical fallacy. So many conclusion being met under the most broken logic lol.
11:26 is literally just "kim there are people dying"
7:56 I’ve definitely seen this one a lot.
Hurrah to extending the topic! The more complete the better!
We got fallacys two before GTA6
The original video is the one that introduced me to the channel and I loved it
dam that sponsor transition was kinda smooth ngl
10:23 lets go gambling
How did u get the idea to start this channel?
learned a lot of these from the democrats
AMONG USSS
Real
KSI
Nice. 👍
Nice, now I can better my arguments and point out poorly crafted ones
the duality of man (you and the one above you)
@@antoinedube-cote155I don't get it
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False Echo chamber fallacy: mistaking confidence in beliefs for an echo chamber
Happens on all sides and has become more common as issues have become more extreme and divisiveness
(I hope this doesn't contain a fallacy lol)
LOL. That’s a solid point, and I don’t think you’ve stumbled into any fallacies here - unless we’re both falling into one together, but hey, at least we’re consistent. Confidence in beliefs often gets confused with the idea of being stuck in an echo chamber, especially when people are passionate about their views. It’s definitely a challenge in today's world where extreme positions and divisiveness dominate the discourse, *look at our media for a blatant example* .
It’s easy to label any strong opinion as coming from an echo chamber, but confidence can come from deep understanding and critical thinking, too. At the same time, though, I think there’s a fine line between having conviction in your beliefs and being unwilling to entertain opposing ideas.
@@OddOwl1 yeah, I also tried to make it as "unbiased" as possible but that could be counted as a fallacy
@@PIZZAdayisback Haha, well, the fact that you're aware of trying to be unbiased already puts you ahead of a lot of people! But yeah, even trying too hard to be UNBIASED can sometimes backfire. As if a tightrope walk, trying so hard not to lean one way or the other that you end up in a weird neutral zone that might ignore important facts just for the sake of balance. Can we call it the *Middle Ground Fallacy* where you assume that the truth must always lie in the middle, even if one side is clearly more supported by evidence.
@@OddOwl1 yeah, that's actually a really good name for that!
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Bro don't improve the DAMN ART STYLE
Why?
@@elvirak8846it feels more natural
8:00 Actually, banning cars is not a bad idea. We people would walk or use bicycles or public transport instead.
Another logical falacy
I see what you’re trying to say, but something like that would be extremely risky and have massive consequences. The idea isn’t that good.
Most of them are not explained -_-
Lets go gambling!
Oh dang it
I can't stop winning
There’s more?!
There is ALWAYS more 😄
there are dozens of ways to blunder an argument
The one part where you asked us to read two statements was a bit too fast to understand at a glance
These videos give me a huge boost of dopamine when I see the title because heheheh
Ok but if you understand taxonomy, you would know that dogs are actually fish
The Furtive fallacy is basically the Boeing Whistleblower theory.
Is the fact that i don't understand most of them, despite your amazing explanation😢, also a fallacy?
If consuming knowledge that's not on your level of understanding is a fallacy, yes
I don't believe that qualifies as a fallacy though
If you were in a serious argument and said "I don't understand that", you would lose the argument; but they wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't call you out on it in a meaningful way
It's more like an admission of defeat, like the nerd emoji or just walking away
2:35 Post Hoc Tuah Fallacy
Those who Hawk Tuah:
The spit on that thang fallacy
This is a checklist for my arguments lol
So
- Just because something happen that doesn't mean it will happen again or in reverse
- In an argument, there is no winner. People will find a way to avoid the truth or People may have a different view (which may be right in another way, for example: One may said it's a 6, Other may said it's a 9)
I feel powerful after watching these.
moving the goalpost, also known as "parenting"
Religion's been real quite since this one dropped
You're doing God's work with this one. It's going to save a lot of people.
Why is there a part two of sonething supposed to include “every logical fallacy”?
This shi too complicated
Oh, so according to this video, every single person who’s ever been wrong just doesn’t know what a fallacy is? Wow, way to simplify everyone’s mistakes! Clearly, the video thinks it's perfect, huh?
Yo you good?
@@sxc932Satire. Chill out.
@@antagonisticalex401 mb
That's not what was presented - think you've missed the point..... You can be wrong but also not believe a fallacy, for example getting a maths question wrong. Nothing to do with fallacies.
Good example of a strawman
I'm not sure I'd all "persuasive definition" a fallacy if it's literally true? One can call policemen professional liars, for example; they themselves would agree that they are professionals and policemen are trained to lie, particularly in undercover work...
But language isnt objective. Worda have subjective images and connotations. Thata the entire point of slurs being censored. Liar is a negatively connoted label, and ignoring that connotation is not something you can do when analyzing the given prospect and not do when encountering it in the wild.
Does that make sense? Probably not.
@@antagonisticalex401 We all lie. It's part of the human condition.
definitions are not supposed to be persuasive, and though technically it can be true, people would do this to garner support for their side rather than to give an honest definition
the example you gave isnt a definition, but rather it is a factual statement; if someone was using "liars" as the *definition* for policemen, then that would absolutely be a fallacy
First. Only real fans can like. 1 minute ago, 3 views? Bro fell off
Fallacy detected
Some kind of version of the No True Scotsman fallacy, it seems.