This has never happen. Read history. The vikings is a very good movie serie. but not always historical. Björn järnsida (son of Ragnar Lodbrok) was a Swedish king and graverade there. Ivar and Ubbe was invaded Mercia 867-869. And then Ivar disappear from the history. probably stayed in Dublin where he own mark.Sigurd Ormiöga was the king of Norway and Denmark,and brother to Björn, Ivar, Ubbe,Halvdan, Vitsärk.
Sometimes they think about politics first. If the West helps Ukraine against Russia why should not we add Rus invasion in Viking series? In fact vikings or Normans were enslaving Slavs to have something to trade with Arab merchants in Black Sea. Later, they decided to collect taxes from local population providing ptotection in exchange. This was the foundation of Kiev Rus.
why in this movie Rus of 9th century looked like mongols of 13th century. In real life military elite of Rus were scandinavian and looks like other vikings. Moreover, Rus is scandinavian word means oarsman. Oarsman on drakkar who became warriors in slavic tribes
From Wiki: The Rus', also known as Russes, were a people in early medieval Eastern Europe. The scholarly consensus holds that they were originally Norsemen, mainly originating from present-day Sweden, who settled and ruled along the river-routes between the Baltic and the Black Seas from around the 8th to 11th centuries AD. I guess the Russ are the forefathers of Russians?
The Rus are not the Russians. Rus means a mix of Slavic and Germanic people in what is today Ukraine and Belarus. The upper classes were more or less Germanic (norse) but got slavicized soon. Main town was Kyiv, yes that Kyiv from the news. The 'Russians' were a tiny part of this large group, their original name is Muscovites, referring to their main settlement. Later when the Mongols arrived and destroyed the Rus, the Muscovites betrayed the Rus and changed sides to the Mongols. This way they got stronger, and in the 17th century they even took over the name 'Rus'. That's why we mix up these two things today. The real Rus are the Ukrainians, the Belarusians and the long gone principality of Novgorod. (There are much more details to this but not enough place.)
@@WillnichtRein An absolutely politically based lie. If you want to operate with mid-ages terms, there were no "Muscovia", as so called "historians" tells nowadays. This appears only in few polish maps during 15-17 centuries, also due to political reasons of that time. If you want to operate with 7-10 ages names, there we no Rus at all, only different tribes. On territorry of "so called Muscovia", lived 2 tribes: Vyatichi and Golyad, wich are 100% slavic tribes. Secondly Rus, as nation, was never meant as mix of Slavic and German people, if you look on maps in wiki for ex, you'll never find any German orgins in these tribes Kyiv was one of the most ancient towns of so-called territories, wich later was divided and united many times under name of Rus. With many other ancient towns and centres of slavic culture, Novgorod, Smolensk, Suzdal, Vladimir ect, each of whose was part of big territory united later under one state. The Russians were never a tiny part of large group, it was the main ethnic group on these territories. And finally don't mix nationality and citizenship. There are about 140 nations live in Russia, and only 1 of them are Russian. This is propably the only truth in your statement, that russians nowadays are minority in russia, and yes, ukrainians and byelorussians, are more common to what is called russian (in ethnic meaning)
@@sergsrg8026 You are confusing german and germanic as a term. These are completely different things. That alone says enough about all your other assumptions.
This has never happen. Read history. The vikings is a very good movie serie. but not always historical. Björn järnsida (son of Ragnar Lodbrok) was a Swedish king and graverade there. Ivar and Ubbe was invaded Mercia 867-869. And then Ivar disappear from the history. probably stayed in Dublin where he own mark.Sigurd Ormiöga was the king of Norway and Denmark,and brother to Björn, Ivar, Ubbe,Halvdan, Vitsärk.
Sometimes they think about politics first. If the West helps Ukraine against Russia why should not we add Rus invasion in Viking series? In fact vikings or Normans were enslaving Slavs to have something to trade with Arab merchants in Black Sea. Later, they decided to collect taxes from local population providing ptotection in exchange. This was the foundation of Kiev Rus.
why in this movie Rus of 9th century looked like mongols of 13th century. In real life military elite of Rus were scandinavian and looks like other vikings. Moreover, Rus is scandinavian word means oarsman. Oarsman on drakkar who became warriors in slavic tribes
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Didn't know russia even tried to occupy Norway, I guess beast was always hungry for new lands.
From Wiki: The Rus', also known as Russes, were a people in early medieval Eastern Europe. The scholarly consensus holds that they were originally Norsemen, mainly originating from present-day Sweden, who settled and ruled along the river-routes between the Baltic and the Black Seas from around the 8th to 11th centuries AD. I guess the Russ are the forefathers of Russians?
The Rus are not the Russians. Rus means a mix of Slavic and Germanic people in what is today Ukraine and Belarus. The upper classes were more or less Germanic (norse) but got slavicized soon. Main town was Kyiv, yes that Kyiv from the news. The 'Russians' were a tiny part of this large group, their original name is Muscovites, referring to their main settlement. Later when the Mongols arrived and destroyed the Rus, the Muscovites betrayed the Rus and changed sides to the Mongols. This way they got stronger, and in the 17th century they even took over the name 'Rus'. That's why we mix up these two things today. The real Rus are the Ukrainians, the Belarusians and the long gone principality of Novgorod. (There are much more details to this but not enough place.)
@@WillnichtRein An absolutely politically based lie. If you want to operate with mid-ages terms, there were no "Muscovia", as so called "historians" tells nowadays. This appears only in few polish maps during 15-17 centuries, also due to political reasons of that time. If you want to operate with 7-10 ages names, there we no Rus at all, only different tribes. On territorry of "so called Muscovia", lived 2 tribes: Vyatichi and Golyad, wich are 100% slavic tribes.
Secondly Rus, as nation, was never meant as mix of Slavic and German people, if you look on maps in wiki for ex, you'll never find any German orgins in these tribes
Kyiv was one of the most ancient towns of so-called territories, wich later was divided and united many times under name of Rus. With many other ancient towns and centres of slavic culture, Novgorod, Smolensk, Suzdal, Vladimir ect, each of whose was part of big territory united later under one state.
The Russians were never a tiny part of large group, it was the main ethnic group on these territories.
And finally don't mix nationality and citizenship. There are about 140 nations live in Russia, and only 1 of them are Russian. This is propably the only truth in your statement, that russians nowadays are minority in russia, and yes, ukrainians and byelorussians, are more common to what is called russian (in ethnic meaning)
@@sergsrg8026 You are confusing german and germanic as a term. These are completely different things.
That alone says enough about all your other assumptions.
@@WillnichtRein and in fact there is nothing to answer ? No real arguments with historical approvements (no fantasy books about Moscovites please)))?
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