I purchased the CT2035 with loader and mid PTO for exactly $20,963.00. Plus zero percent for 84 months! Included delivery also. I couldn’t find anything even close. I’ve had it for a couple months and I love it.
Thanks for that. Being a Kubota owner, I’ve always respected Bobcat but wondered where they were in the tractor market. That summed it up in 6 1/2 min!
I've been doing the shopping rounds recently, and although it was difficult to find a Bobcat dealer with one on the lot to see, I was pleasantly surprised by the operation. The controls are all situated well and the loader controls were smoother than Kubota and Massey. I hopped right on the Bobcat and as a novice operator I had 2 functions going on the loader immediately. Very smooth.
Don't have anything to add to what others already said other than that James did well with his presentation skills, focused more on the camera as to engage us viewers which are his audience and looked at/toward you when you were asking questions again showing good attention skills. He deserves the kudos I give!
Tractor Time with Tim One thing I wish you 2 would have talked about was the comparison to JD & Kubota on PTO Power and Hydraulic. Would have liked to hear his comments.
I would love to see you do a 30 day Home Test of the Toolcart with the Mower,Bucket and the Forklifts and any other attachments you can talk them into. I used to like the Avant but because this can take two people I like it better. Is it just as stable? If they let you test out a Tractor and Mini Loader to that would be great.
Great video 👍 Kioti would be a great company to expand with for Bobcat share the development of load moving forward. It would be just like LS and CNH have done look at the 3 brands of tractors that came out of the alliance. I'm not any sort of a professional expert but we do have 2 tractors one from each of the above mentioned South Korea companies LS and Daedong and I feel both companies have growth potential and they have gained ground in the United States compact tractor market. Thanks for sharing.
micheal whynot , who’s making the Kioti.... that’s why I’m skittish on off brand compact tractor/ tractors. Who makes it and how long have they’ve been around? Price doesn’t matter to me, I’m more interested in parts and service after the sale.
Yes kioti and daedong are the same tractor , bobcat own kioti and basically most of the bobcat parts work on kioti... I own a kioti and I blew a pump and the same pump was on bobcat. Kioti make a great tractor the daedong is the brand in Europe and both sell well.
Hi I’m a owner of a bobcat ct1021 I’ve had mine for a year now, I have just at 109 hours on my tractor. It’s a good little tractor I have 6 acres. I’ve moves 15 loads of dirt with it . Semi truck loads, haven’t had any mechanical problems. A poor fuel filter location. But it does what I ask of it I even run a fm175 flail mower behind it. I do go slow with the mower as it’s big for it.
Bobcat-designed Kioti machines. It's likely the Bobcat 'in-house facility' will continue to build the same Kioti-based machines under license. That'd be good for parts availability and overall support.
I've been waiting for this, i pumped. They have been around awhile. Their Skid Steers are an awesome machine. Can't wait to see them in our home state of W.V
I just paid 16,900 for a new CT2025 HST with loader. I’ve been searching for a compact tractor for a while and that’s the best I could manage. So I pulled the trigger. Deer and Kubota wasn’t even come close.
Iv been looking at these bobcat compacts for awhile now they have great lifting abilities from what I have seen. I always hoped they would make a sun compact so this is great to see.. The white and black colors are SO clean I love it, time will tell their durability in the field but so far I’m totally rooting for them Ps. The more sub compacts that are in the market the more it drives prices down for us consumers as well and the more features we will get for FREE! Lol
10010100110 01101011001 Doesn’t the kioti have a single cylinder in the front like the Kubota bx? Seems like there are some differences.. the buckets look different as well. But yah kind of a bummer still if most the design is kioti.. I’d still rather own the bobcat tho by the differences I can see
"WOW " I like Bobcats tractors and they two kind of tractor I like John deere tractor and Bobcats tractor now to bad you couldn't take one home to test it
I guess it's good there's more competition, and I know this video just scratches the surface, but I don't see any compelling reason to choose them over the others. I guess if you have other Bobcat equipment and want to stay in the family this would be great. However, it feels like Bobcat is jumping into a market in which no one was looking for their presence. Time will tell if round 2 works out. Anyone taking bets?
Did you get to take one home to compare to the John Deere? They should be good tractors. That is a big jump from 25 to 45 horsepower if I understood correctly.
This info sparked my interest in that Bobcat is owned by Doosan, a South Korean company. Kioti (Daedong) is also South Korean, so I would think that the two companies are competitors. Then again, I also see that the larger Kioti tractors use Doosan engines, so maybe they are not. Just interesting to me.
HPDuster This whole thing is weird. I’ve driven Doosan heavy equipment (wheel loaders and dump truck), they are the best heavy equipment I’ve ever ran. And I thought Kioti was a complete different brand and company from Doosan so idk how people are getting bobcat=kioti
Bobcat and Kioti are not the same company, but Bobcat has licensed the Kioti tractor line, rebranding it as their own. So, the tractors are identical for now. Bobcat states that they will begin modifying and improving the machines as time goes on.
I know this is an old video but I just learned that Bobcat even made these after watching almost all of your 1025 videos. Is the 1025R still your go-to and how does the 1 (or 2) series of Bobcat stack up? I see that the 1025R seems to be better overall than the Kubota but I'm interested in these too. Thanks for all the great videos, you pretty much have me sold on the 1025R at this point.
@@TractorTimewithTim thank you, good to know! Just sitting here watching more of your videos and it makes me want one even more. Springtime is calling with many projects.
So just buy a Kioti for now, and wait 10 years for them to build their "in-house" tractor if you want a Bobcat. In 10 years you'll be buying your spare parts from Kioti anyway...
Don't have a local Kioti dealer, but there is a Bobcat dealer - so your post isn't ubiquitously applicable. Oh, and we have two John Deere dealers which is why I own John Deere tractors - dealer support.
They claim they are coming into the market aggressive.... the price sure doesn’t show that. I expected something innovative coming so late into the game. It’s just a white kioti with less
I wholeheartedly want to wish these companies the best of luck with sales. It still comes down to the bottom line though. John Deere may not be the best option with any model of tractor they build, however I have four John Deere dealerships within a thirty minute drive in either direction of me. I also feel like the Deere will sell faster if I put it for sale next to a Bobcat, Kioti, Kubota or LS in my area. It's hard to not pay the extra cost for a John Deere to get the comfort of knowing you have bought into a well established company.
I just had a Kioti dealer tell me that Bobcat uses a different loader than Kioti with 600 pound less lift capacity on a 35 hp with cab. Anyone verify or have any info on this?
Funny story...I poked around at Bobcat's website a week or so ago to look at the tractors and concluded they wouldn't interest me because they don't have loaders. Granted, I could have clicked more but if the majority are going to come with loaders (as stated in this video) it seems odd the loader pictures are buried behind multiple clicks on their website.
Does Bobcat plan to offer a size similar to the new Kioti CX series or will the CX remain a Kioti exclusive? The CT1025 and CT2025 are a far distance apart on what they can do. How about a tractor that can lift over 1000 lbs with the loader yet not be over 50 inches wide? How about a narrower tire option for the CT2025 I can dig that for sure. I am trying to make a decision and really want the bobcat name and white color. I love the color white to set it apart and the Bobcat name and logo screams this is not a toy it is a mean machine! I know Kioti is a great machine. I need to lift logs in excess of 1000 lbs all day but don't want such a wide machine as the CT2025 because I also will use it to cut my grass with a belly mower 54 inches. My yard is only a half acre, but I need the lifting power above the CT CT 1025. Thanks,
Hope you have a great Sunday Tim!! If they went over anything regarding what makes this a “bobcat”, that’d be great to hear. You know, why buy this Whitelabeled version over the OEM manufacturer, that kind of thing.
From looking at the specs, the CT2040 seems to be almost a clone of the Kioti CK4010HST. The weight is exactly the same, same hydraulic flow, same lifting capacity. Is bobcat owned by kioti?
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Are you gonna do a product review to show ease of operation and switching implements and so on ?? This looks like a solid machine but you didn't show enough about functions .
Some people think that “Kioti” is a major brand... sorry to break the news, but Kioti does not have any tractor/tractor over 100-125hp. Deere, MF, Kubota, New Holland, Case IH and Steiger are “Major” brand. Sorry if I left out a few of the brands like Duetz or Claas which have been around and are proven tractors. Mahindra getting there but Kioti doesn’t have a dog in the race for the guy who responds to me that they are “Major”.
The market for under 100hp tractors is growing bigger than the larger tractors. Look at the limited supply of compact tractors since COVID. Heck I’m looking for a compact now and in my market there are tractors with no tires waiting to be finished due to a massive buy over the last few months. For compacts the major brands are Kubota, Deere, KIOTI, LS (NH & Case), and TYM (some Mahindra models).
DTB Farms yeah in my area only 2 tractor houses sell them. The rest are just add on dealers that mainly sell ATVs. Both dealers have Kioti and said to go that route.
Korea is the worst copycat next to China. Hyundai takes the Honda logo and slants it sideways. Kioti takes the Kubota logo and slants it sideways. They also took Kubota colors. A Chinese tractor company would just build a crappy tractor, paint it green, and actually put John Deere stickers on it...but they would probably spell it “Jon Deer.”
While competition is always a good thing, this is a very saturated market and Bobcat should be jumping in with both feet. I feel like based on their option offering and future plans they are simply “testing the waters” again. They should have offered some real info such as lift capacities, dig depths, SSQA? Etc. one of the reasons I feel Kubota owns as much of the market as they do is their option and size list, they stair step their chassis and hp size much better than anyone else. Their b series is their most popular and the only other company that offers one that size is the Mahindra max/emax series. Bobcat should have made this a priority to go hard after. By all means good luck to them, and I do hope they build in house, again one of Kubota’s strongest selling points.
Thats the same thing I say about Mahindra... yet people still buy them. Im not saying there bad but for just a tiny bit more you can get a Orange or green.
@@davids.9834 People buy brands other than green and orange because they offer so much more in features, weight, capacity, and sometimes build quality, for the same or less cost.
I just picked one up. Right now you can get one for $8k cheaper. They have more lifting power than the other brands and more pto HP than the other brands. CT2025 with backhoe for $21k is insane.
TTw Tim, do you have a website email? I couldn’t find anything on your site. I’m not a subscriber as of now but after watching the demo of the Rhino Flex-wing video you’ve caught my interest.
Tim do you have a email for your site for further discussion on topics/ questions? I’m small time farmer with 120ac. and love the reviews on some of the equipment you test.
I simply do not have time to reply personally to every viewer. You can reach me Tim at tractortimewithtim.con. But I may not be able to respond. Thanks for your understanding.
If Bobcat wants to TAKE market share. STOP! With the confusing model numbers... and "Skipping" a number because there is little difference? Well make it different or don't skip the numbers. As far as "in house" manufacturing. The other brands have found that the margins are to little. To take on all aspects of engineering and tooling etc. If Bobcat wants good market share do something your competitors aren't doing. Remember if you meet your competitors models no one will notice. If you exceed your competitors models that will get attention. Like New Holland compact tractors start with 25 HP! Enclosing, the more models of compact tractors smaller the market share everyone has. Honestly, Bobcat will get some sales but they are late to the show.
Actually they are returning to the show. They had a compact tractor a few years ago but left for some reason. I wouldn't buy a bobcat product because there are to many cooks in the kitchen meaning that bob cat is owned by doosan and is built by another korean company Kioti and then branded a bobcat. Ya the others are also built by a second party but with companies like deere they have been around for over a century and have a much larger dealer network and parts network. Its not just the tractor you by but the whole dna of a company. This is why I go with JD instead of CaseIH because Im a red guy at heart but am not a fan of fiat owned cnh. There is so much to look at when buying a tractor now a days than just the color of it.
I purchased the CT2035 with loader and mid PTO for exactly $20,963.00. Plus zero percent for 84 months! Included delivery also. I couldn’t find anything even close. I’ve had it for a couple months and I love it.
Where did you purchase from?
@@larrylapanowski6707 It was the Bobcat dealer in Syracuse NY. This was back in March.
I’m glad you asked the question about jumping ship. Perfect! Most will jump ship when they’ve overloaded their wagon. Thanks Tim!
Thanks for that. Being a Kubota owner, I’ve always respected Bobcat but wondered where they were in the tractor market. That summed it up in 6 1/2 min!
Tim, I really love videos like this! I'm always curious about new products, what ever they are!!! Thank you very much 😊❤️!!
I've been doing the shopping rounds recently, and although it was difficult to find a Bobcat dealer with one on the lot to see, I was pleasantly surprised by the operation. The controls are all situated well and the loader controls were smoother than Kubota and Massey. I hopped right on the Bobcat and as a novice operator I had 2 functions going on the loader immediately. Very smooth.
Thank you for keeping us up to date on new product offerings!!!!
Don't have anything to add to what others already said other than that James did well with his presentation skills, focused more on the camera as to engage us viewers which are his audience and looked at/toward you when you were asking questions again showing good attention skills. He deserves the kudos I give!
Can you do some demos with the compact skid steers that are the walk behind type. Something that would be like a compact tractor but even smaller.
Nice looking machines. I believe they are rebadged kioti tractors.
Thanks for sharing, very informational. Hope they stay in the market long term.
Good looking traktors.lets see how they are looking if bobcat produces their own subcompact traktors.good work as always tim.
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One thing I wish you 2 would have talked about was the comparison to JD & Kubota on PTO Power and Hydraulic. Would have liked to hear his comments.
Here is something for the rrp to listen to put the loader control stick down beside the operator much more comfortable
Factory Rear view mirror on a open station tractor? I Like that!
As long as it pivots when it contacts a tree branch ;)
I would love to see you do a 30 day Home Test of the Toolcart with the Mower,Bucket and the Forklifts and any other attachments you can talk them into. I used to like the Avant but because this can take two people I like it better. Is it just as stable? If they let you test out a Tractor and Mini Loader to that would be great.
Great video 👍 Kioti would be a great company to expand with for Bobcat share the development of load moving forward. It would be just like LS and CNH have done look at the 3 brands of tractors that came out of the alliance. I'm not any sort of a professional expert but we do have 2 tractors one from each of the above mentioned South Korea companies LS and Daedong and I feel both companies have growth potential and they have gained ground in the United States compact tractor market. Thanks for sharing.
Got to love the new kioti tractors painted white
micheal whynot , who’s making the Kioti.... that’s why I’m skittish on off brand compact tractor/ tractors. Who makes it and how long have they’ve been around? Price doesn’t matter to me, I’m more interested in parts and service after the sale.
Kioti (Daedong) makes their own tractors.
I’ll stay with the major brands, I can get parts for my green tractors from Atlanta tomorrow if my dealer doesn’t have it in stock.
D. Blair
Kioti is a major brand.
Yes kioti and daedong are the same tractor , bobcat own kioti and basically most of the bobcat parts work on kioti... I own a kioti and I blew a pump and the same pump was on bobcat. Kioti make a great tractor the daedong is the brand in Europe and both sell well.
Hi I’m a owner of a bobcat ct1021 I’ve had mine for a year now, I have just at 109 hours on my tractor. It’s a good little tractor I have 6 acres. I’ve moves 15 loads of dirt with it . Semi truck loads, haven’t had any mechanical problems. A poor fuel filter location. But it does what I ask of it I even run a fm175 flail mower behind it. I do go slow with the mower as it’s big for it.
Really good information Tim👍
God bless you, brother!
Bobcat-designed Kioti machines. It's likely the Bobcat 'in-house facility' will continue to build the same Kioti-based machines under license. That'd be good for parts availability and overall support.
Ok I live near a dealer and I have yet to see a tractor on the lot and that’s in Olean
I've been waiting for this, i pumped. They have been around awhile. Their Skid Steers are an awesome machine. Can't wait to see them in our home state of W.V
Like the Bobcats and the Ventracs.
So cool to see bobcat revamp their tractors. Is that the only size they have for backhoes? It looks so puny on the back of that cabbed tractor.
I believe this, my X739 John Deere got stuck a Ventrac (Stiner) had to get me out.
Skipping from 2 to 4 seems like a spinal tap "but ours goes to 11." move lol.
I bought the CT2025 it meets all my needs they are Made in South Korea.
Made by Kioti/Daedong.
@@TractorTimewithTim that’s 100% correct but it is made to Bobcat specs from what I hear. Never the less I like my Bobcat it is very well made
Tim thanks wish they would have did it a few yeats ago we have a great dealer but hine site is 20 20
Great looking machine however are they going to put arm rests and tilt wheel?
Have a 2040 1yr. Now it is awesome
If they offer a ct1 series with a cab and gear drive I’d 100% buy
Interesting he said you can get a midmount mower on that tractor, the kioti 3510se and 4010se isn’t available with a midmount mower!
Great video !
I just paid 16,900 for a new CT2025 HST with loader. I’ve been searching for a compact tractor for a while and that’s the best I could manage. So I pulled the trigger. Deer and Kubota wasn’t even come close.
Iv been looking at these bobcat compacts for awhile now they have great lifting abilities from what I have seen. I always hoped they would make a sun compact so this is great to see..
The white and black colors are SO clean I love it, time will tell their durability in the field but so far I’m totally rooting for them
Ps. The more sub compacts that are in the market the more it drives prices down for us consumers as well and the more features we will get for FREE! Lol
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They are rebranded Kioti tractors. These tractors have been around for years, just painted white instead of orange.
10010100110 01101011001 Doesn’t the kioti have a single cylinder in the front like the Kubota bx? Seems like there are some differences.. the buckets look different as well. But yah kind of a bummer still if most the design is kioti.. I’d still rather own the bobcat tho by the differences I can see
Manufactured by Daedong (Kioti), final assembly at a Doosan (owns Bobcat) plant in my hometown in NC. Bobcat has a long ways to go to persuade me.
Sloppy Joe, not according to Bobcat. It is being done in Statesville, NC
This is right. I work at the Doosan facility in Statesville. They're nice looking tractors.
I wish tractor manufacturers would offer gear driven options for their smaller models
"WOW " I like Bobcats tractors and they two kind of tractor I like John deere tractor and Bobcats tractor now to bad you couldn't take one home to test it
I bet they are good tractors!
I like the new bobcat tractors
Is that a dash stick? Cuz that seems like a #fail. What are they bringing that isn't already out there?
I would love to see a CT1025 vs 1025R from you
anyone have any issues with the 4x4 drive shaft coming off?
So when are we going to see Bobby and Johnny side by side? I hope they get along and don't rough house in the shed. :)
Exactly cubcadet they r white kioti's looks to be same fram and cab dashboards are exactly a kioti
I guess it's good there's more competition, and I know this video just scratches the surface, but I don't see any compelling reason to choose them over the others. I guess if you have other Bobcat equipment and want to stay in the family this would be great. However, it feels like Bobcat is jumping into a market in which no one was looking for their presence. Time will tell if round 2 works out. Anyone taking bets?
Kioti has been rebadged a few times for the compact tractor market.
as you may know iam a BIG deere guy... but wow these Bobcat tractors look really nice!:O
Kioti.
@@TractorTimewithTim oh...hahaha i mean bobcat.😂😂😂😂
The market is full of tractor companies now and Bobcat is bring out their own to compete late in the show.
Bobcat badged tractors aren’t new to the show, been around a while.
Not their own, I doubt they will ever make their own tractors. These are sourced Kioti
They were around and they failed last time too.
Did you get to take one home to compare to the John Deere? They should be good tractors. That is a big jump from 25 to 45 horsepower if I understood correctly.
This info sparked my interest in that Bobcat is owned by Doosan, a South Korean company. Kioti (Daedong) is also South Korean, so I would think that the two companies are competitors. Then again, I also see that the larger Kioti tractors use Doosan engines, so maybe they are not. Just interesting to me.
HPDuster This whole thing is weird. I’ve driven Doosan heavy equipment (wheel loaders and dump truck), they are the best heavy equipment I’ve ever ran. And I thought Kioti was a complete different brand and company from Doosan so idk how people are getting bobcat=kioti
Bobcat and Kioti are not the same company, but Bobcat has licensed the Kioti tractor line, rebranding it as their own. So, the tractors are identical for now. Bobcat states that they will begin modifying and improving the machines as time goes on.
SO what does the Bobcat have in it for a motor? Yanmar?
I looked at the CT1025 Today and the motor said SHIBAURA? What happened to DAE Dong?
The tractor is baeutiful.😍
I know this is an old video but I just learned that Bobcat even made these after watching almost all of your 1025 videos. Is the 1025R still your go-to and how does the 1 (or 2) series of Bobcat stack up? I see that the 1025R seems to be better overall than the Kubota but I'm interested in these too. Thanks for all the great videos, you pretty much have me sold on the 1025R at this point.
Get the 1025r! You will not regret it.
@@TractorTimewithTim thank you, good to know! Just sitting here watching more of your videos and it makes me want one even more. Springtime is calling with many projects.
So just buy a Kioti for now, and wait 10 years for them to build their "in-house" tractor if you want a Bobcat. In 10 years you'll be buying your spare parts from Kioti anyway...
Don't have a local Kioti dealer, but there is a Bobcat dealer - so your post isn't ubiquitously applicable. Oh, and we have two John Deere dealers which is why I own John Deere tractors - dealer support.
@@buckhorncortez sure it is, and you just said it. Buy the tractor from where you will be able to get parts and support in 10+ years.
Still a good tractor
@@BahnGop my dad has a 2012 Bobcat. He hasn't had any issues with it.
They claim they are coming into the market aggressive.... the price sure doesn’t show that. I expected something innovative coming so late into the game. It’s just a white kioti with less
You need to get some bobcat equipment
I wholeheartedly want to wish these companies the best of luck with sales. It still comes down to the bottom line though. John Deere may not be the best option with any model of tractor they build, however I have four John Deere dealerships within a thirty minute drive in either direction of me. I also feel like the Deere will sell faster if I put it for sale next to a Bobcat, Kioti, Kubota or LS in my area. It's hard to not pay the extra cost for a John Deere to get the comfort of knowing you have bought into a well established company.
Kubota does not belong lumped in with Kioti, LS, and the others. It’s resale value is as good as JD.
@@tylermacconnell217- agreed...I'll stick with my Kubota that I've had for 8 years..never a days trouble and plenty of dealer support if needed.
I just had a Kioti dealer tell me that Bobcat uses a different loader than Kioti with 600 pound less lift capacity on a 35 hp with cab. Anyone verify or have any info on this?
JD for me!
Funny story...I poked around at Bobcat's website a week or so ago to look at the tractors and concluded they wouldn't interest me because they don't have loaders. Granted, I could have clicked more but if the majority are going to come with loaders (as stated in this video) it seems odd the loader pictures are buried behind multiple clicks on their website.
What engine is in the bobcat line? Bobcat and kubota are what I’m considering.
Cool looking tractor. Did they say what the source manufacturers are right now?
Looks like they are kioti again.
Yes, Kioti.
@@mattburrows5590 Bobcat were Branson previously.
Does Bobcat plan to offer a size similar to the new Kioti CX series or will the CX remain a Kioti exclusive? The CT1025 and CT2025 are a far distance apart on what they can do. How about a tractor that can lift over 1000 lbs with the loader yet not be over 50 inches wide? How about a narrower tire option for the CT2025 I can dig that for sure. I am trying to make a decision and really want the bobcat name and white color. I love the color white to set it apart and the Bobcat name and logo screams this is not a toy it is a mean machine! I know Kioti is a great machine. I need to lift logs in excess of 1000 lbs all day but don't want such a wide machine as the CT2025 because I also will use it to cut my grass with a belly mower 54 inches. My yard is only a half acre, but I need the lifting power above the CT CT 1025. Thanks,
neat
Love my kioti
I’m wondering how much those decals and white paint add to the price
Hope you have a great Sunday Tim!! If they went over anything regarding what makes this a “bobcat”, that’d be great to hear. You know, why buy this Whitelabeled version over the OEM manufacturer, that kind of thing.
You seem fun
rotten just barrels and barrels full of fun
From looking at the specs, the CT2040 seems to be almost a clone of the Kioti CK4010HST. The weight is exactly the same, same hydraulic flow, same lifting capacity.
Is bobcat owned by kioti?
all it is, is a different paint scheme
They are re-badged Korean Daedong tractors... which is parent company of Kioti.
Kioti is making these for Bobcat.
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Wow! Lots of time spent watching TTWT! You deserve a cheeseburger now!
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Are they more or less than the comparable kioti?
Can anybody besides jd make a subcompact with position control!?!
Doesn’t seem like it!
Are you gonna do a product review to show ease of operation and switching implements and so on ?? This looks like a solid machine but you didn't show enough about functions .
we’ll see how it goes.
I didn't hear anything mention about Price of the Subcompact Line
We didn’t talk pricing. I dunno.
@@TractorTimewithTim That's ok,, If they are made by Kioti I wouldn't want one, I had a Kioti No more of that
Im sure it would have scared buyers away
It is a Kioti made in South Korea by Daedong.
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Some people think that “Kioti” is a major brand... sorry to break the news, but Kioti does not have any tractor/tractor over 100-125hp. Deere, MF, Kubota, New Holland, Case IH and Steiger are “Major” brand. Sorry if I left out a few of the brands like Duetz or Claas which have been around and are proven tractors. Mahindra getting there but Kioti doesn’t have a dog in the race for the guy who responds to me that they are “Major”.
The market for under 100hp tractors is growing bigger than the larger tractors. Look at the limited supply of compact tractors since COVID. Heck I’m looking for a compact now and in my market there are tractors with no tires waiting to be finished due to a massive buy over the last few months. For compacts the major brands are Kubota, Deere, KIOTI, LS (NH & Case), and TYM (some Mahindra models).
wheel gun definitely stay away from LS, service is horrible from everyone I’ve heard that’s owned one. “ They can sell it but not fix it”
DTB Farms yeah in my area only 2 tractor houses sell them. The rest are just add on dealers that mainly sell ATVs. Both dealers have Kioti and said to go that route.
the seat is very wimpy and the tractor is the wrong color and what engine do they use??
You mean Doosan!
Does this have position control? Meaning the 1025r isn’t the only one?
Subcompact does not.
How do these companies agree on who gets what colors?
Hmm. Large netting room, cigars, dice, cards, dart board? Ha! Funny image anyway.
@@TractorTimewithTim Do U mean "Padded Room"?
Korea is the worst copycat next to China. Hyundai takes the Honda logo and slants it sideways. Kioti takes the Kubota logo and slants it sideways. They also took Kubota colors. A Chinese tractor company would just build a crappy tractor, paint it green, and actually put John Deere stickers on it...but they would probably spell it “Jon Deer.”
While competition is always a good thing, this is a very saturated market and Bobcat should be jumping in with both feet. I feel like based on their option offering and future plans they are simply “testing the waters” again. They should have offered some real info such as lift capacities, dig depths, SSQA? Etc. one of the reasons I feel Kubota owns as much of the market as they do is their option and size list, they stair step their chassis and hp size much better than anyone else. Their b series is their most popular and the only other company that offers one that size is the Mahindra max/emax series. Bobcat should have made this a priority to go hard after. By all means good luck to them, and I do hope they build in house, again one of Kubota’s strongest selling points.
How much compare to the equivalent Kioti; I won't pay more than 5% for the Bobcat sticker.
That is about the cost difference. KIOTI has better financing though.
Going to take more than being 1,000 cheaper than a Kubota or Deere to get people to buy them.
Thats the same thing I say about Mahindra... yet people still buy them. Im not saying there bad but for just a tiny bit more you can get a Orange or green.
@@davids.9834 People buy brands other than green and orange because they offer so much more in features, weight, capacity, and sometimes build quality, for the same or less cost.
I just picked one up. Right now you can get one for $8k cheaper. They have more lifting power than the other brands and more pto HP than the other brands. CT2025 with backhoe for $21k is insane.
Who is making them?
That’s identical to the Kubota bx compact tractors
Not quite. It is a rebadged Kioti tractor.
I just bought a Bobcat tractor because I liked the bobcat dealership better than the kioti dealership.
Is there a snow blower that goes with those tractors??????????????????
check with Kioti. Same tractor.
still not green lol but look like a nice tractor great video guys
There kioti tractors right now aren’t They?
Yep.
yep
Think they were last time too.
Disappointing to see that they added no distinguishing features.
Woah, 15 people dedicated to the tractor segment! They are taking this super serious this time.
Weren't they LS tractors painted white before ?
No, Kioti both times.
Our local bobcat dealer was selling the blue LS tractors until a month or so ago. I guess this is why they disappeared.
TTw Tim, do you have a website email? I couldn’t find anything on your site. I’m not a subscriber as of now but after watching the demo of the Rhino Flex-wing video you’ve caught my interest.
Tim do you have a email for your site for further discussion on topics/ questions? I’m small time farmer with 120ac. and love the reviews on some of the equipment you test.
I simply do not have time to reply personally to every viewer.
You can reach me Tim at tractortimewithtim.con. But I may not be able to respond. Thanks for your understanding.
I completely understand, I was just wondering about an site email.
No contact on website, just wondering.
If Bobcat wants to TAKE market share. STOP! With the confusing model numbers... and "Skipping" a number because there is little difference? Well make it different or don't skip the numbers. As far as "in house" manufacturing.
The other brands have found that the margins are to little. To take on all aspects of engineering and tooling etc.
If Bobcat wants good market share do something your competitors aren't doing. Remember if you meet your competitors models no one will notice. If you exceed your competitors models that will get attention. Like New Holland compact tractors start with 25 HP!
Enclosing, the more models of compact tractors smaller the market share everyone has.
Honestly, Bobcat will get some sales but they are late to the show.
Actually they are returning to the show. They had a compact tractor a few years ago but left for some reason. I wouldn't buy a bobcat product because there are to many cooks in the kitchen meaning that bob cat is owned by doosan and is built by another korean company Kioti and then branded a bobcat. Ya the others are also built by a second party but with companies like deere they have been around for over a century and have a much larger dealer network and parts network. Its not just the tractor you by but the whole dna of a company. This is why I go with JD instead of CaseIH because Im a red guy at heart but am not a fan of fiat owned cnh. There is so much to look at when buying a tractor now a days than just the color of it.
I wondered when they were going to jump on the bandwagon.
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I wonder if the paint is as bad as it is on skid loaders.
Hey Tim try out a bobcat min excavator
Rebranded Kioti tractors
Considering Bobcat is a Korean company, makes sense for them to sell a Korean tractor .