New Ways To Build Old Commanders
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Revisiting some old commanders with some new builds.
Kaho
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Pharika
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Thromok
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Exactly what I was thinking about rn. Your streak in uploading exactly what I asked for just mere minutes to hours before the video is uploaded is actually unreal wth.
I will say the videos you make about interesting old cards are much better than the videos you make complaining about new cards
Of course, it sucks when he expresses his opinion and criticizes current magic. MTG should be an echo chamber where no content creators says anything bad about new cards being released... Hope you can read the sarcasm there.
Current day magic has a real problem with power creep and poor card design and Demo is the only creator I can think of who is actually talking about it. The last thing we need are people like you trying to motivate him to stop doing it. More people need to address WOTCs new design philosophies.
Donvier does make a great point but sometimes it's best to talk about somethin else for a bit
I think both are good. If people don't make their voices heard, the issues WOTC has will continue. Demo makes a great point about WOTC hurting themselves by printing for commander. When a Modern set has more to do with Commander than Modern, that's an issue for the game as a whole - and I only play Commander. The health of the game and the long-term viability of it are at the heart of all players, and when WOTC makes decisions that hurt the game it is important they hear about it.
Nah let him complain. No other creator has been because they're scared of the mob. Current cards are designed to dupe you into buying them not designed to be creative.
@@Donvier98If you enjoy content creators ripping on WOTC, the Commander’s Quarters is for you 😅
God these vids are so good. They make me remember why I love the format.
One notable mechanic from recent sets that could be big for Pharika are cards that trigger from you committing a crime, as Pharika’s activated ability fulfills it every time it targets an opponent’s graveyard.
With feed the pack, you can also then re cast your commander the next turn after swinging with the wolves to devour them all to make an even bigger army of wolves!
i just watched a video by 3/3 Elk that was a neat take on pharika and im really contemplating building her now
Love the idea of Thromok... He can be a 1/1, a 4/4, a 9/9, a 16/16, a 25/25, a 36/36, etc., etc.
I need to make a deck for him, it just always felt so vulnerable....
I had one. It's all about getting haste and trample, or sacrificing him the turn he comes down. You almost never get to untap with your giant commander.
Kaho makes a really interesting infect commander and proliferate got a lot of tools to make it really viable. Tutor up prologue to phyresis and get going before the table kills you!
I recently built a Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge deck and with the synergy for exile-casting from the past two years she's very strong.
Kaho, Minamo historian can cast Inevitable Betrayal for 0 mana immediately, rather than waiting for suspend - untap him several times via shenanigans and steal every good creature straight out of your opponents' decks.
When Inevitable Betrayal resolves (from being cast using Kaho's ability), the card goes to the graveyard. So, you can't recast it multiple times, unless I'm misunderstanding what you're proposing.
The bigger issue is Inevitable Betrayal is a Sorcery and Kaho tutors/casts Instants.
@@theOakMonster your astute correction made me delete my comment. Once, i realized that this was no longer spicy.
@@theOakMonster Guess I'm too used to my buddy copying the spell, its scary when 3 things get taken at once
I've been building "leave graveyard" deck and was wondering who should I use as a commander and what total colours. My pics were pharika, the legendary troll I forgot the name of with scavenge and Khaga shadow archdruid for golgari
Grul partner commander that creates tokens with the orzhov partner commander to created 4 colour leave graveyard deck I was also looking at the new Coram for jund colors but just red doesn't have enough but Boros from strixhaven (in the 4 colour one) are great. I want the deck to be focused but I also want all the cool cards.
You have a tcgplayer affiliate link anymore? Would love to support you when I buy some cards.
43 creatures is the *most* you’ve ever put in a creature-focused deck?! I’m regularly well into the 50s for my creature-based decks like Teysa Karlov (55 there, and that’s even with 38 lands)
Got Thromok in my Omnath, rage deck. I cast it, devour all my elementals and take one player out. Then I fling Thromok at another player. Always fun.
Thromak with All Will Be One feels like an example from the previous video about “stealing the win from your deck”.
how so? it synergizes perfectly with your commander.
@@edhdeckbuilding It’s a lot of effort to be different to be building and playing a relatively fun and unique Commander like Thromak to just have everyone rolling their eyes at the end when you play All Will Be One.
I think the only deck I have where I run All Will Be One is Voja, because if you’re playing Voja, everyone is playing high power decks (or you’re “that guy”) one tier below CEDH.
@@Dragon_Fyre It's not even remotely stepping away from normal Thromok decks though, it's as synergistic of a commander you can possibly get with the enchantment. "Stealing the Win" was a video talking about using staples wincons that explicitly don't care about what your deck is doing "because it's good". AWBO specifically works with everything you're doing in this deck in the first place and thus wouldn't fit that criteria regardless of how you utilize Thromok's Devour ability
@@guyatanosavia8487 I understand that but very few players would care about that distinction.
The moment I ever see a Millennium Calendar, I know the deck is just a draw engine to play All Will Be One. Sure, it ‘could’ be creative… but it won’t be…
@@Dragon_Fyre i don't think it's an eyeroll at all. it perfectly synergizes with your commander, it might not even kill anyone if your commander isn't big enough. and it can at best kill one opponent. it would be no different then someone one-shotting you with their giant thromok.
LEEEETSSGOOO!! am ALWAYS here for these
19:45 "Burning Anger", "Elemental Mastery", "Surestrike Trident" , 20:33 yeah, lots of green punch cards, ... there are lots of options there
I gotta say, what drew me originally to your channel was your "10 cards you should be putting in your commander decks" videos and how you would dredge up all these older quirky gems. Then when you shifted more towards highlighting new commanders/ nEw mUsT hAvE cArDs 😂i sorta tuned out your videos for a while. But I 100% stand with your take on how power creep has gotten so overwhelming/ out of hand and your decision to not buy new cards anymore. Amen brother, here's to you helping us find ways to still enjoy this wonderful game without feeding the MOAR POWER MOAR POWER GIMME GIMME GIMME cash cow "rotating commander format" that Wizards has become!
P.S. I would love to see you make a video giving your thoughts and ideas on the "PreDH" format.
One old commander that was a bit boring when it came out, but got better since then is Skullbriar. It keeps counters as it changes zones (except hand and library). When it came out, it was just +1/+1 counters, but now it also works with Fly counters, Lifelink counters, Indestructible counters, etc. It's fun to build.
I gotta build Thromok. I’ve been thinking about it on and off for years. I’m thinking especially about the Riot enchantments like Rhythm of the Wild and Uncivil Unrest, and I really dig Feed the Pack. ✌️
Pharika with Tainted Aeither, Dingus Staff, Compost and Bereavement will never not be amazing. Chuck in a Virulent Plague or Illness in the Ranks and it becomes brutal. The deck becomes this kind of Grismold clone but with alot more "stax" pieces and creature hate.
I just wish Thromok was Jund... Devour is my favorite and he just skips too many of the cool devour synergy cards without black so he's better in the 99 of Prossh. But one day I will have a true Jund Devour commander. >:)
Now with those 30 wolves got can recast Thromok next turn and get 30(30) +1/+1 counters on him. And then sac him to get exponentially more tokens if 30 wasn't enough
I'd like to build a commander deck with only retro frame cards since there are now so much cards available with that, but it's hard to get a feeling what a good strategy/commander/colour combination for that would be; availability and so on. Any suggestions for a deck like this?
I don't want to buy the Urza or Mishra precons btw :)
Have you ever thought about putting "Chevill, bane of monsters" in your pharika's deck ?
I love your videos and we have extremely similar philosophies on deck building but every time i watch your videos i just think "hell yeah, parkway drive"
Heres an idea for an edh variant. "5-star generals" Everyones commander has to be exactly 5cmc. This could be done with any cmc
Thromok has always killed it for me. Squared power is already a lot, but rush of blood with a copy on top of it with trample, killer and easy to achieve in RG
if you blink kaho can you cast the cards previously exiled with kaho?
Kaho > Vantress visions > infinite spells > Sentinel Tower pings everyone. Does this work?
Theyre bad because releases cards that are insane value engines for the format for like 2-5 mana every few weeks
Devour. You say this word, I do not think it means what you think it means
seems cool to turn lux artillery into a creature and give it infect
also pharika is decent at comitting crimes
syr konrad in pharika looks very good
Brother take a look at Marath again that thing slaps.
Insidious Roots is good but what is that art…?
As one of the 5 Thromok players, she is a seriously great commander. These is no better feeling then summoning a 112/112 and casting Chardra's Ignition to kill the entire table.
I imagine you mean 121/121. You can't make her a 112/112 without a lot of other outside effects.
I built Izoni Center of Web when MKM released. It was exactly the same build around than Pharika : exiling cards from your own Graveyard to benefit from cards like tormod, the crypt that makes bats, etc. I might try pharika as the leader of the deck to change things up (also making it 3 mana chaper to cast)
Kaho + 0 cost cards
Burning Anger is also very good in thromok because it's repeatable
Hmmm. I put together a list with Dr. Madison Lit that's UW, but which also run significant Red color support (almost entirely for the commander). It also runs Bobblehads, making any color. It also runs giant artifact creatures to close the game out with. Thus, Lux Artillery makes the already-giant artifact creatures terrifying. Nice find!
I've been playing Thromok for years. Its such a fun deck.And yeah, the fastest I've slapped a card into a deck was when I opened All Will Be One.😂
As a long time Pharika lover, some other pieces of neat tech are the black and green runes from Kaldheim. Great for boosting Pharika into a more lethal threat and won't ever fall off as she switches between being a creature and a noncreature. The same can be said for keyword counters. Crimes work really well. I was an early adopter of Desecrated Tomb with Pharika as just more ways to ooze value from each of her activations. I long waited for the trickle of this brand of graveyard value/synergy piece to come. The free commander spells don't specify that you need a creature, just a commander. Pharika as an enchantment is still the commander.
I’m building a thromak deck after seeing it on paymoneyeubbys game nights
been looking to make a Pharika deck. It's slow, but so much value with all the new "when something leaves gy" token makers
Kaldra Compleat can allow Kaho to play your opponent's creatures from exile!
Loreth of the Healing House is a slam dunk for Kaho as well... I'm sure you can find a way to abuse her ability 😊
For thromok you would like cards like the enchantment that gives riot to all your creatures
Love revisiting old commanders. Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun used to not have enough with Go Tall Tokens in his colors. It was Benthic Anomaly in MH3 that made me reexamine him.
Pharika works amazing with crime cards from thunder junction
For the Koho commander the instant that makes islands add more mana would be cool with archeo mancer and flicker
Thromok is a deck I am thinking of making in a landfall/land creature strategy.
I used to build thraximundar as a sacrifice deck but now im building him as a rogues outlaws deck!
the cards you showed in the thromok part will help alot for my Rith, the Awakener Devour theme deck :D
Would All Will Be One even see the counters be put on a creature with Devour if it ETBs with the counters on it already?
it sees all permanents the enter with counters on them.
@@edhdeckbuilding thanks.
I keep wanting to fix up my thromok deck might finally do it
Pharika has a lot of new tools, kinda want to build it myself now
Iname death aspect please
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Great video! Makes me want to build 'Pharika...".
Kaho with illusionist bracers is quite cool seeming.
I have never seen most of these cards, might be something interesting to build
I just built thromok recently and it’s been a blast!
Sheer BRILLIANCE! ❤🎉
More excellent content. Thanks
I really like the Pharika one
Love these old look back vids
The king is back!
You're pronouncing Kaho incorrectly and it's "funnily enough", not "funny enough".