Thanks, interesting analysis. I'll keep it in mind and see how it gestates in me. I think I'll prefer to keep the symbolic formula closer to some standard notation, though I would say the key center is ambiguous or changing, but here's the notation I get when I take Eb Major as the progression's "key": ii(min9) vi(min7) bvii(Maj7)* #IV(min7)* V(7sus4) iii(min7) IV(Maj7) vii(7)** bvii(Maj7)* iii(min7) * = root of chord is outside key ** = quality of chord differs from that of diatonic chord I think this notation has several advantages: (1) Remembering numeric progression (e.g., ii, vi, bvii) aids in identifying root of chord relative to the stated key, (2) intervals in progression are easily calculated and can go up or down *(e.g, ii to vi is up a fifth or down a fourth, and smooth voice leading would usually go in direction of smallest interval), and (3) the notation clarifies which roots and which chord qualities are non-diatonic to the key.
Thank you for watching and for your analysis! I agree with utilizing standard notation and the advantages of it, as that is how I learned as well. My aim with this specific analysis was to share a different way of approaching a progression/movement that may be unfamiliar to some and hopefully helpful. This isn’t by any means a replacement for standard notation, especially due to the fact that when in a professional performance setting with other musicians, one must use standard notation…as it’s exactly that…the standard. Definitely going to 📌 this for others to see what the standard notation of this progression is. Thank you!
Sheena, great progression and presentation. I also try to use both relative and absolute notations. I think the interval between the 7th and the 8th chord could be notated as b5 (or #4 i.e. a triton) rather than #5, since the alteration usually qualifies the (here descending) interval and not the destination note ( 4:26 ), as shown in the absolute notation from iv to VII. Thank again
Thank you! You’re correct 💯 It’s a #4, when I wrote it out that’s what I had down, but I kept saying #5 by mistake and put it up on the screen incorrectly smh🤦🏾♀️ I truly appreciate you watching 🤗
I think Sheena's approach in this video really highlights how Glasper might have gone about writing the song: experimenting with chord qualities and spacing them apart with nonstandard intervals. It's one very creative way to find chords in an exploratory nature. As you know, music theory comes after the music. Usually one creates a melody, then use theory to write chords for the melody, then/or in the process, the chord numerals come about. With Sheena's video, I'm presented with bountiful options for intervals and chord qualities and I can actually use that as a tool -- instead of melody then chords, I can experiment with finding various chords, qualities, intervals, etc THEN make a melody, which is very much like how Glasper plays. He's not that melodic in my opinion, but his chords and movements are always creative. I think your method @hsitz is better for analyzing a song's structure, but Sheena's is for sitting at the piano and writing a new song/rendition. Like this is probably how glasper wrote the song - experimenting with 'random' chords and finding/balancing what's right melodically.
You’re very welcome (+ no harm). I also enjoy your idea of messing with chords quality while keeping the same root progression, opening wide modal perspectives. 🙏
Huge props on this video! I love your take on the chords! You can also think of it a bit more simply as a run in the key of Ab major with a Gm7 for the 7th scale degree instead of a m7b5 chord and decending with the pattern below: Fm9 (vi) - Cm7 (iii) - DbMaj7 (IV) - AbMaj7(I) - Bbm11 (ii) -Gm7 (vii m7) - Cm/Eb (inversion of iii in place of the V) - DbMaj7(V) - Gm7 Cm7 (acts as the ii-V back to Fm9 to start the pattern again. Use 4 note chords voiced to follow the melody and you're golden!
Thank you!!! I love your approach as well! This is important because it shows that this progression can be adjusted to work when the Fm becomes the vi, thus changing the key from Eb maj to Ab maj as you stated above. Now I’m curious as to how I can make this progression work by changing the Fm to the (iii), basically changing the key to Db maj. That would cause the G to change to a major chord (IV)…hmmm 🤔 I’m definitely going to try this out lol💯 Thank you so much for sharing this!
Sheena, that is very good professional content..! You should feel very proud ! I’m a multi-decade musician and I have enjoyed and appreciate the progressions you have shared !
THIS literally is exactly what I was looking for omggg!!! Some one to explain the interval movement from chord to chord and the chord quality and extensions I’m so soooo grateful for this video and the time and effort you took to make this 🙏❤️❤️❤️
This is an excellent way of notating especially for someone studying there intervals never seen anyone teach like this on youtube. And believe me I watch a lot of YT😀.
Hi Sheena, Thanks a lot for sharing this with us, for me, as Angolan piano player is such gorgeous see a black woman doing this kind of thing. God bless you so much
Hiiiiii!!!! Oh my goodness, thank you for your kind words…truly means a lot to me🙏🏾May the Most High Yah bless you as well 💕 I would love to hear you play!
I'm learning by myself, here on UA-cam with videos like your, we don't have really school to learn about music here, but it's ok, I really love playing piano and do music. I'm so happy that you saw my comment 😊❤ I don't have any woman's pianist in my country to look at, I'm trying to be that one 😊
Very cool! Been wanting to teach my kid more interesting movements on the keys. It’s advanced/complex sounding but simply explained. Definitely using this. Thanks!
Thank you for watching! Glad it’s of use to you and your family! Just know that there is an error, from the Ab down to the D is a #4…I mistakenly kept saying #5.
@@sheenagossmusic_ Thank you so much for doing just that! After digesting this information for a week or so now, I'm finding it incredibly helpful and inspiring.
Thank you for the musical ideas & instruction. I hope you don't mind my saying but I'm pretty sure your use of the label #5 for Ab down to D is inaccurate- that interval is a tritone, a #4 or b5 if you want to use that kind of notation? As far as I know #5 would indicate an augmented fifth, 8 semitones. I can see what you intend but I think it could confuse people not familiar with intervals.
I don’t mind at all because you’re absolutely right 💯 Once I posted it, I realized I should have said #4. That’s actually what I wrote down initially and realized the error in the video after the fact. 🤦🏾♀️ Thank you for your insight and for watching 😊
This is really cool! Thanks for sharing this with us all. Is this progression from a particular song by Robert Glasper? I have been having fun trying out different sounds on Hybrid Keys but i get super noodly...this progression will be good for me to practice while i try out all these spacy sounds. Wishing fulfillment and knowledge and passion and compassion filled times to everyone for realz.❤
Thank you so much! I’m definitely working on that 🙏🏾 💯 I think most people have become so accustomed to these types of tutorials (w/midi), that it just seems normal for everyone to have that capability. Like you stated, having it is extremely helpful to assisting all levels of students, so I’ll be getting that in the near future 💯 I truly appreciate you watching 😊
Hi, I think it would be good if you played a short clip of you playing the movement right at the beginning of the video, I've seen other piano UA-camrs do this and I think it would help engage the viewer as I found myself skipping ahead to hear what it sounded like before watching the rest of the video. Otherwise great video
Hi! I actually played the entire movement at the very beginning, it’s the first 5 seconds of the video, it’s pretty short, so I can definitely understand why it may not have been noticed. Maybe I’ll make the demos longer at the beginning. Thank you for watching and for your feedback 💯
Oh wait...I think I know the answer to the question I asked u in a previous comment about that Ab not being played in the Fm chord. I thought by not playing that Ab, it would be a F dominant. But I remembered u said E Flat was the initial tonality, so yes, I see how it's not a dominant chord because the ii of Eb is a minor. *whew* I feel dum
Noooo please don’t feel that way, it’s a valid question because what I play is an F9, but like you said I’m in Eb so diatonically speaking it is the ii of Eb, which is an F min. Thank you for watching!
Thanks, interesting analysis. I'll keep it in mind and see how it gestates in me. I think I'll prefer to keep the symbolic formula closer to some standard notation, though I would say the key center is ambiguous or changing, but here's the notation I get when I take Eb Major as the progression's "key":
ii(min9) vi(min7) bvii(Maj7)*
#IV(min7)* V(7sus4) iii(min7)
IV(Maj7) vii(7)** bvii(Maj7)* iii(min7)
* = root of chord is outside key
** = quality of chord differs from that of diatonic chord
I think this notation has several advantages: (1) Remembering numeric progression (e.g., ii, vi, bvii) aids in identifying root of chord relative to the stated key, (2) intervals in progression are easily calculated and can go up or down *(e.g, ii to vi is up a fifth or down a fourth, and smooth voice leading would usually go in direction of smallest interval), and (3) the notation clarifies which roots and which chord qualities are non-diatonic to the key.
Thank you for watching and for your analysis! I agree with utilizing standard notation and the advantages of it, as that is how I learned as well. My aim with this specific analysis was to share a different way of approaching a progression/movement that may be unfamiliar to some and hopefully helpful. This isn’t by any means a replacement for standard notation, especially due to the fact that when in a professional performance setting with other musicians, one must use standard notation…as it’s exactly that…the standard. Definitely going to 📌 this for others to see what the standard notation of this progression is. Thank you!
Sheena, great progression and presentation. I also try to use both relative and absolute notations. I think the interval between the 7th and the 8th chord could be notated as b5 (or #4 i.e. a triton) rather than #5, since the alteration usually qualifies the (here descending) interval and not the destination note ( 4:26 ), as shown in the absolute notation from iv to VII. Thank again
Thank you! You’re correct 💯 It’s a #4, when I wrote it out that’s what I had down, but I kept saying #5 by mistake and put it up on the screen incorrectly smh🤦🏾♀️ I truly appreciate you watching 🤗
I think Sheena's approach in this video really highlights how Glasper might have gone about writing the song: experimenting with chord qualities and spacing them apart with nonstandard intervals. It's one very creative way to find chords in an exploratory nature. As you know, music theory comes after the music. Usually one creates a melody, then use theory to write chords for the melody, then/or in the process, the chord numerals come about. With Sheena's video, I'm presented with bountiful options for intervals and chord qualities and I can actually use that as a tool -- instead of melody then chords, I can experiment with finding various chords, qualities, intervals, etc THEN make a melody, which is very much like how Glasper plays. He's not that melodic in my opinion, but his chords and movements are always creative. I think your method @hsitz is better for analyzing a song's structure, but Sheena's is for sitting at the piano and writing a new song/rendition. Like this is probably how glasper wrote the song - experimenting with 'random' chords and finding/balancing what's right melodically.
You’re very welcome (+ no harm).
I also enjoy your idea of messing with chords quality while keeping the same root progression, opening wide modal perspectives. 🙏
Huge props on this video! I love your take on the chords! You can also think of it a bit more simply as a run in the key of Ab major with a Gm7 for the 7th scale degree instead of a m7b5 chord and decending with the pattern below:
Fm9 (vi) - Cm7 (iii) - DbMaj7 (IV) - AbMaj7(I) - Bbm11 (ii) -Gm7 (vii m7) - Cm/Eb (inversion of iii in place of the V) - DbMaj7(V) - Gm7 Cm7 (acts as the ii-V back to Fm9 to start the pattern again.
Use 4 note chords voiced to follow the melody and you're golden!
Thank you!!! I love your approach as well! This is important because it shows that this progression can be adjusted to work when the Fm becomes the vi, thus changing the key from Eb maj to Ab maj as you stated above. Now I’m curious as to how I can make this progression work by changing the Fm to the (iii), basically changing the key to Db maj. That would cause the G to change to a major chord (IV)…hmmm 🤔 I’m definitely going to try this out lol💯 Thank you so much for sharing this!
Nice! Sounds like part of the changes in a Steely Dan tune.
Thank you! Yes! The first few chords on “Peg” is what I’m hearing with the chromatic movement. Great ear!
Reminds me a little bit of Caves of Altamira!
Sheena, that is very good professional content..! You should feel very proud ! I’m a multi-decade musician and I have enjoyed and appreciate the progressions you have shared !
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate you watching and your kind words ☺️
Very nice,thank you Sheena
The UA-cam algorithm finally showed me something amazing
Wow! Thank you so much! ☺️
THIS literally is exactly what I was looking for omggg!!! Some one to explain the interval movement from chord to chord and the chord quality and extensions I’m so soooo grateful for this video and the time and effort you took to make this 🙏❤️❤️❤️
Awwww, I’m elated and grateful to know that this was helpful to you!! Thank you so much for watching, I truly appreciate it! 🤗
This is an excellent way of notating especially for someone studying there intervals never seen anyone teach like this on youtube. And believe me I watch a lot of YT😀.
That means a lot! Thank you so much! I appreciate you watching 💯
Hi Sheena,
Thanks a lot for sharing this with us, for me, as Angolan piano player is such gorgeous see a black woman doing this kind of thing. God bless you so much
Hiiiiii!!!! Oh my goodness, thank you for your kind words…truly means a lot to me🙏🏾May the Most High Yah bless you as well 💕 I would love to hear you play!
I'm learning by myself, here on UA-cam with videos like your, we don't have really school to learn about music here, but it's ok, I really love playing piano and do music.
I'm so happy that you saw my comment 😊❤
I don't have any woman's pianist in my country to look at, I'm trying to be that one 😊
Yesss! Go for it!!! 🙌🏾
Sweet movement sister, you've gained a new sub!
Thank you so much! ☺️
Same! Every Key is its own planet, each with its own dominant (moon)
Yesss! Once I began viewing each key this way, it made transposing so much easier and less intimidating. 💯
Nice, but don't know how you form chords with such ease with both hands, cool skill.
yessss this is how I see it ..... FOH wit all them notes lol... if you learn your pre requisites, this is gold!!!
😂 Learning the basics is a must 💯 Thank you for watching!
I love how you turn this song into a chord etude for practicing voicings. A great example in experimentation. Do you write music as well?
Thank you! I haven’t gotten into writing a lot of music as of yet, but it’s definitely a goal of mine 💯
Thanks for this Sheena. I’m going to apply the gems dropped to the guitar. Much respect from Johannesburg, South Africa
You’re so welcome! Thank you for watching! That’s going to sound AMAZING on 🎸 💯
You got a very noticeable singing voice.
Very cool! Been wanting to teach my kid more interesting movements on the keys. It’s advanced/complex sounding but simply explained. Definitely using this. Thanks!
Thank you for watching! Glad it’s of use to you and your family! Just know that there is an error, from the Ab down to the D is a #4…I mistakenly kept saying #5.
what a great resource! will certainly come back for more
Aww, thank you so much! ☺️
I struggle with chord relationships so this video is great. Do u have any others like this?
Thank you for watching! This is the only one for now, but I’ll definitely be posting more videos like this very soon💯
@@sheenagossmusic_ sounds excellent
Greetings from Lagos, This video just popped up and am glad I clicked thanks for this. You have my subscription
Awesome! Thank you so much!☺️
This is challenging and beautiful. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed it ❤️ 😊
So many gems in this one lesson! 💎💎💎💎
Thank you so much! ☺️ I was trying to pack as much in as I could lol!
@@sheenagossmusic_ Thank you so much for doing just that! After digesting this information for a week or so now, I'm finding it incredibly helpful and inspiring.
Thank you Sheena.. gonna practice later! Bless
Awesome! You’re very welcome and thank you for watching ☺️
Thank you for the knowledge. Excited to apply this to guitar!
Awesome! You’re welcome! Thank you for watching 😊
Thank you for the musical ideas & instruction.
I hope you don't mind my saying but I'm pretty sure your use of the label #5 for Ab down to D is inaccurate- that interval is a tritone, a #4 or b5 if you want to use that kind of notation?
As far as I know #5 would indicate an augmented fifth, 8 semitones.
I can see what you intend but I think it could confuse people not familiar with intervals.
I don’t mind at all because you’re absolutely right 💯 Once I posted it, I realized I should have said #4. That’s actually what I wrote down initially and realized the error in the video after the fact. 🤦🏾♀️ Thank you for your insight and for watching 😊
@@sheenagossmusic_ Cool, thanks! keep the good vibes happening!
My first time checking out your site and I'm glad to say I'll be back for more help by subscribing ❤
Awesome! Than you so much for watching and subscribing! ☺️🤗
Cool. Where can I find it the sheet music of this amazing moviment, please?
This was great! I'm definitely going to be trying to practice and implement this in an arrangement.
Thank you! That’s awesome! 😃 It has definitely amped up some of my typical movements 💯
I'm curious how did you learn so much about chord theory. Where there any particular books or resources you used?
@@sheenagossmusic_
........Great video......
Thank you!
Really nice stuff!
Thank you! ☺️
wow amazing movement thank you!
You’re so welcome! Thank you for watching ☺️
This is really cool! Thanks for sharing this with us all. Is this progression from a particular song by Robert Glasper? I have been having fun trying out different sounds on Hybrid Keys but i get super noodly...this progression will be good for me to practice while i try out all these spacy sounds. Wishing fulfillment and knowledge and passion and compassion filled times to everyone for realz.❤
Thank you so much for watching!☺️ Yes, this progression is from “Heaven’s Here” by Robert Glasper. I’m glad you’re enjoying playing around with it!💯
Something Amazing
Really enjoyed that tutorial. Thank you.
You’re welcome! I appreciate you watching! 💯
New sub!!!great work!!! I might have to flip this!!! People who know me will tell you that we are clones when it comes to writing!!!
Thank you so much! I’d love to hear how you flip this! The possibilities are endless 🤗
Met your subscribers at 999 🎉 I’m making it 1000❤
Oh my goodness!!!! Thank yoooou! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🤗🤗🤗
Thank you for the great tutorial! I just subscribed and i'm looking forward seeing more
You’re so welcome! Thank you for watching and subscribing ☺️
Wonderful ❤️
Thank you! 😊
Hi Sheena! I'm new to your channel. I really enjoy the way you teach. Looking drowned to binging tour content. *New Subscriber *
😊 Oh my goodness, thank you so much for subscribing! Please let me know if you have any song requests. 💯
Oooo I like this approach. My brain likely 😂
😂 I’m happy you like it! Thank you for watching!
Cool
Please use the highlighted keys. I really can’t tell without seeing what is happening. Please sisi
MOVE WAS FIRE 🔥!!!!! BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use MIDI KEYBOARDS!!!! So you can help all of your students at different levels
Thank you so much! I’m definitely working on that 🙏🏾 💯 I think most people have become so accustomed to these types of tutorials (w/midi), that it just seems normal for everyone to have that capability. Like you stated, having it is extremely helpful to assisting all levels of students, so I’ll be getting that in the near future 💯 I truly appreciate you watching 😊
Hi, I think it would be good if you played a short clip of you playing the movement right at the beginning of the video, I've seen other piano UA-camrs do this and I think it would help engage the viewer as I found myself skipping ahead to hear what it sounded like before watching the rest of the video. Otherwise great video
Hi! I actually played the entire movement at the very beginning, it’s the first 5 seconds of the video, it’s pretty short, so I can definitely understand why it may not have been noticed. Maybe I’ll make the demos longer at the beginning. Thank you for watching and for your feedback 💯
Hi. I thought a Fm9 Chord an Ab? It looks like a F Dom w/ an added G...help me out here.
Great video, what Key were you playing in by the way?
Thank you! Eb major
Oh wait...I think I know the answer to the question I asked u in a previous comment about that Ab not being played in the Fm chord. I thought by not playing that Ab, it would be a F dominant. But I remembered u said E Flat was the initial tonality, so yes, I see how it's not a dominant chord because the ii of Eb is a minor. *whew* I feel dum
Noooo please don’t feel that way, it’s a valid question because what I play is an F9, but like you said I’m in Eb so diatonically speaking it is the ii of Eb, which is an F min. Thank you for watching!
@sheenagossmusic_ No!! Thank You for sharing your gift! I'll be watching!!
Can anyone write the chord progression on this comment!?!
Hi! It’s in the pinned comment 👍🏾