You could tell the owner of the clean stock Camaro definitely took care of his car well, thought it had super low miles like, maybe between 15-60k miles
At 9:00, that 2010 L99 auto made exactly what it should. They’re rated 395 hp crank vs the LS3 manuals rated at 426 hp. . 17-18% losses. That old 6 spd auto not as efficient as the 2016-18’ 8 spd and get this, that old 8 spd is more efficient than the 10 spd and makes the car quicker.
Great video man Was wondering if you guys can do a vid on the difference between a hiram vs msd not sure which route to go on my c7 all I have is long tubes and cai on E
Steve, really like the intro of what's to come👍😎 Btw, the word I think you meant to say was deduce not deduct🙃 But, we understood what you meant Sherlock😏lol
With the multiple Heads Cam 6th Gens we've done you would expect to see a difference when compared to any of them, there wasn't. The stock LT MSDs flow great.
Thinking about getting this for my 2016 2ss is the It2 worth it I'm hearing some people say u loose power get the msd intake but the It2 just a lot cheaper i think if u do other mods with the intake it's not bad
“Although both deduce and deduct are related to the noun deduction, they mean different things. Deduce means 'conclude through reasoning', while deduct means 'take away'.” I wonder if wearing your hat like this causes vocabulary issues?
The Car with the Ported MSD possibly needs more fuel b/c slightly more air(depending on how deeply ported it is)is being pushed through it. Am I anywhere close to a correct answer? So does the Ported MSD car need bigger fuel rails?
@@matthewmohri9990 the best flowing intake in the world wouldn’t run that out of fuel system . The conclusion is that the msd intake comes optimized from msd so you can’t make it flow much better .
So the car has headers with full exhaust, cam setup, fuel injector upgrades, bigger throttle body,ported msd intake manifold, rotofab cai, flex fuel tune! Is that all? Any forged internal upgrades?
You can thank companies like 'MBRP' for the crack down on aftermarket modifications. Mods that enhance performance and sound, while remaining legal, are fine! But that exhaust is nonsense. p.s. I understand wanting a better sound from your V8, I had a Holden VE SSV with a Walkinshaw exhaust. Nice rumble, but not obnoxious.
That pro charger has some terrible design issues. Like putting the air filter right above the heat source, heat soak has to be pretty bad. Also, the 100* degree curved air intakes on these newer cars is terrible. For every 35-45 degrees of curved tube, you reduce flow by 14-18%. I’ve had my share of Camaros, 2006 LS2 GTO’s. Those curved air intakes make almost zero hp, yes almost zero. Not worth upgrading. Dyno’d far to many of these with every air intake upgrade out there and none made any real hp to write home about, only around 5 or 6 hp. And with the hood Wilde open those numbers are typically over inflated by 50-60%. I will never dyno a car hood open anymore. It’s not realistic to on-road, open hood is perfect for parking lot meets and nothing more. You don’t drive with the hood wide open, so don’t dyno that way. Opening the hood and putting fans on the intake and letting the natural heat under the hood just escape is cheating reality. Put the high flow fans in front of the grille, close the hood. Vary the fan speed from low at idle to very high during a dyno run. The results will be much more realistic and reliable, especially for actual “driving” vs parked at a meet-up.
MSD LT1 ported vs non start around 17:00
Wish I had read this comment earlier and saved 16:05 minutes of my life
Yup same you saved 2 minutes at the end though so thanks
Love these na 6th gens yall push over 600 whp
You could tell the owner of the clean stock Camaro definitely took care of his car well, thought it had super low miles like, maybe between 15-60k miles
Watching frans vette launch never gets old!
Absolutely love the content. You guys are hilarious!! Keep up the great work!!
Made 612 wheel with my 6th gen GPI heads/cam setup with ported msd well worth it if you don’t wanna cut stock hood .
what gpi cam you run to make over 600?
@@dannykuhns363 SS4
@@svt89 what all u got done?
@@dannykuhns363 ported heads and gpi ss4 cam 6spd car
At 9:00, that 2010 L99 auto made exactly what it should. They’re rated 395 hp crank vs the LS3 manuals rated at 426 hp. . 17-18% losses. That old 6 spd auto not as efficient as the 2016-18’ 8 spd and get this, that old 8 spd is more efficient than the 10 spd and makes the car quicker.
So what intake manifold would you use on an LS one motor what would you recommend especially if you put a pro charger on it
Great video man
Was wondering if you guys can do a vid on the difference between a hiram vs msd not sure which route to go on my c7 all I have is long tubes and cai on E
Can't wait to see what Frans car does this time out. 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍
I got you on those Carnival Candy Reign's Matt! Next debate, BANG Cotton Candy or REIGN Carnival Candy? Enjoy!!!
carnival candy all day. cotton candy has a bitter taste imo
One of my favorite parts of these videos is hearing you guys rip on these fools for their stupid loud exhausts. 🤣
That red 2010 Camaro is dope.
Steve was in Vermont during the baseline of the white camaro
Steve, really like the intro of what's to come👍😎
Btw, the word I think you meant to say was deduce not deduct🙃
But, we understood what you meant Sherlock😏lol
He does seem to annoy a few people around there. Walking on eggshells tends to make people strange.
Awesome video! Great numbers. So it looks like a porting a MSD is a waste of money if it makes 3HP difference than non ported. . Interesting.
They on different cars so I won’t call that apples to apples I guess?
@@willw1564 you make a valid point 🤔
With the multiple Heads Cam 6th Gens we've done you would expect to see a difference when compared to any of them, there wasn't. The stock LT MSDs flow great.
@@BLUPRINT1LE there you go. Waste of money indeed. But not for the every hp counts crowd. I don’t know 🤷♂️
Pray performance says otherwise
Thinking about getting this for my 2016 2ss is the It2 worth it I'm hearing some people say u loose power get the msd intake but the It2 just a lot cheaper i think if u do other mods with the intake it's not bad
What do they mean by ported ? What’s the difference between ported and nun ported ? Like what makes it ported
Drill holes in the intake. People think it gives it more air flow/power
I hope Fran & KP take a camera with them to the track please
I have a 05 c6. Is it possible to put a 08 transmission in my 05?
Have to swap the diff too. 05 axles will fit.
“Although both deduce and deduct are related to the noun deduction, they mean different things. Deduce means 'conclude through reasoning', while deduct means 'take away'.”
I wonder if wearing your hat like this causes vocabulary issues?
You must be a blast at party’s...
@@Bsaint I enjoy picking on Stevie for his T-Ball Hatstyle
Last name for Kyle... Butler. Kyle Butler was a character on Dexter LOL
At the point of deciding to port your intake why don’t you just get a better aftermarket manifold
Cars on your dyno face East, should face north. Probably why it reads high.
The Car with the Ported MSD possibly needs more fuel b/c slightly more air(depending on how deeply ported it is)is being pushed through it. Am I anywhere close to a correct answer? So does the Ported MSD car need bigger fuel rails?
Hahahaha. 🤦🏻♂️
@@RaceProvenMotorsports So I was a bit off in my conclusion? I thought I'd give it a shot.
@@matthewmohri9990 the best flowing intake in the world wouldn’t run that out of fuel system . The conclusion is that the msd intake comes optimized from msd so you can’t make it flow much better .
@@jkfonyi Ah the concept of diminishing results.
Is the camera guy the workshop punching bag?
Throw a stock MSD on the white car and run it again for science!
Maximum headflow achieved on Comaro
Drag racing and a nice glizzy to seal the day haha.
The first car would draw return fire in some areas
I do wonder if the porting was just a bad port job? Some places are charging 300 bucks for porting. The stock line looked better in some spots.
Same, seems every shop with a reputably ported msd makes quite a bit over a non ported.
That’s what I was thinking as well. I hope that’s the case, I’m getting a ported one tomorrow
I would whoop that on No Limits drag racing app. I love that game to. Shit is kinda addictive.
So the car has headers with full exhaust, cam setup, fuel injector upgrades, bigger throttle body,ported msd intake manifold, rotofab cai, flex fuel tune! Is that all? Any forged internal upgrades?
Every mod is listed in the video
@@RaceProvenMotorsports thanks i don’t know how i missed that. I might go same route with mine as well. Thank you.
💥💥
Do we need a gofundme for matt and his under hood light? lol
deduct works, but I think in this context, he meant... "deduce" what you will. ya know.. 2 years later. :) at 22 min. mark.
I made 501 whp without an intake manifold
500 without a cam?.. damn.
You can thank companies like 'MBRP' for the crack down on aftermarket modifications. Mods that enhance performance and sound, while remaining legal, are fine! But that exhaust is nonsense.
p.s. I understand wanting a better sound from your V8, I had a Holden VE SSV with a Walkinshaw exhaust. Nice rumble, but not obnoxious.
Love that game
GPI Says a ported LT2 its worth 3 HP more. Possibly adding an LT5 TB will help
I love it my guys rpm keep up the work and I love the video lot real true and I love Camaro ss 2019 lot 💯
23:00
My neighbor has a straight piped yukon and it's loud asf
Ok I get you like a good field of view and that is why you where your hate that way but you might want to get a beanie..
I feel like yall must have forgot what an L99 was based on those guesses lol
That pro charger has some terrible design issues. Like putting the air filter right above the heat source, heat soak has to be pretty bad. Also, the 100* degree curved air intakes on these newer cars is terrible. For every 35-45 degrees of curved tube, you reduce flow by 14-18%. I’ve had my share of Camaros, 2006 LS2 GTO’s. Those curved air intakes make almost zero hp, yes almost zero. Not worth upgrading. Dyno’d far to many of these with every air intake upgrade out there and none made any real hp to write home about, only around 5 or 6 hp. And with the hood Wilde open those numbers are typically over inflated by 50-60%. I will never dyno a car hood open anymore. It’s not realistic to on-road, open hood is perfect for parking lot meets and nothing more. You don’t drive with the hood wide open, so don’t dyno that way. Opening the hood and putting fans on the intake and letting the natural heat under the hood just escape is cheating reality. Put the high flow fans in front of the grille, close the hood. Vary the fan speed from low at idle to very high during a dyno run. The results will be much more realistic and reliable, especially for actual “driving” vs parked at a meet-up.
Every time you comment you sound more and more dumb
dat yellow camaro claps
I would love to see a scat pack challenge Dyno!
We are a GM shop so won’t happen
@@RaceProvenMotorsports I’d probably get Fran to tune my LS1 before that lol
Not worth the effort or risk of damaging the intake. The man hours it took to port this outweighs stepping up into another intake style.
You better marry that woman Genius!!! Lol....what the hell are you waiting for? Lol
More of Frans race car content please.
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Doesn't look worth it to me.