Nissan Leaf 24 kWh battery degradation test
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The EVs with highly degraded battery's are still perfect city cars. Going 10km/20km a day. No problem, even in winter. Only AC charging at home. As a 2. car. No need to throw them away, they are needed. Low price, low maintenance, low energy costs. Still way better than public transport these days.
Nah they should get rid of them so I can hopefully buy one for $2000 or less and get a pack replacement for cheap.
@@elihernandez330 Or that, battery prices are dropping fast, next drop with 4680 battery's soon. But a old Leaf is still not a long distance car even then. So whats the point?
Terribly thirsty though because that slow charging is partly thanks to resistance which has buiolt up as the pack degraded. Better to put a new battery in it and use the old one for solar or something.
@@siraff4461 But if you charge at home over night, the charging speed doesn't matter. I will charge my Y with about 1-3kw overnight, I don't care how long it takes. Slow AC charging for battery health. Every morning I have a 90% battery waiting for me.
Or do you meant that the energy costs are also increasing with this slow charging?
@@kasmopaya2676 I meant the energy costs more than the charge speed. I owned an older leaf and it used quite a lot more energy from the plug for the same miles as my new one did - both 24kWh cars but my old one had 80,000 miles on it. It was somewhere around a 12% difference and it was partly that plus the added repairs it needed which made me get the new one. This was back around 2015.
What, I've been waiting for nearly TWO days for a video. I got serious abstinences for a video and was beginning to get worried about Bjørn (but probably taking some time off, or making new content :-) )
@@nilreb On Twitter he is quite inactive anyway
I need at least one TB video per day or else i am going insane! 😁
There is a company in the netherlands exchanging the complete pack. You can also get a bigger battery for it.
Yes, and in Spain also another company offering 40 and 60kwh upgrades with LG cells. I also know some people which used wrecked 30 and 40kwh leafs as battery donors to old 24kwh leafs...
You can also have batteries replaced in the UK, including putting a 40 kwh battery in a 1st gen Leaf.
I think there are similar companies in Nordic countries too. One in Finland at least.
There’s a video on youtube of a guy installing a 30 kWh pack by himself, at home.
@@freddykrueger79 do you have the contact details of these companies, can you share them with us please?
The heat pump appeard on Tekna and Acenta models on 2013.
I believe 2013 is also when the battery percentage was available to see, as well as 'B' mode. For the 2014 model year Nissan added TPMS (at least in the UK anyway)
Also heat pump heating makes no sense below 0 deg because the efficiency is than the same as direct heating with ptc elements. That's why the most EV cut the heat pump below a ambient temperature of 0 deg.
@@matneu27 are you talking Farenheit?? Because my Leaf happily runs heatpump at least down to -15C. Heatpumps for houses have higher efficiency than 1:1 even down to -25/-30C, may not be the same for cars, but they should be a lot more efficient than 1:1 even in sub zero.
@@therandomtester9561 deg C of course. But no HP can skip the rules of thermodynamics. The heat you harvest is a product of electric power to run the compressor and the heat of the ambient temperature while evaporate the refrigerant. In other words a hp is a AC running in reverse mode.
@@matneu27 yes, and they do so with good efficiency even in sub zero degrees..
I want to add for anyone curious, the battery was improved from 2013 Leafs onwards and degradation on those is not as fast as 2011 and 2012 Leafs.
it’s still pretty bad. No temp management really harms the battery long term.
@@harsimranbansal5355 it's not great but I wouldn't say it's pretty bad. Pretty bad is when issues arise unpredictabily. '13=< models could already be considered OK. Definitely these days it would be considered bad in the light of competition so new Leafs need a liquid cooled battery + CCS refresh asap.
Capacity of the pack is limited by health/capacity of cells 21-24 based on your videos. Replacing them will improve entire pack health/capacity.
Red bars mean balancing charging.
Very interesting series!!! Thanks for that. So, people can see how interesting the second hand market is.
I have a 30kwh Leaf since 03/2017, with 146.000kms and 63,78 soh 😢 meaning It applys for a new batery.
But we still love it, great car .
Mine is also 2017 30 kw but I have l lost only 6 proc- soh 94 proc.
@@andoniminev1 how many kms ?
Specialists such as Cleevely EV can add another small battery in the boot (trunk) to take strain off the main, older battery, and add back range
throwaway car after 10 years is manufacturers target, its supposed to be not worth repairs or repairs cost should be higher than car value
I have communicated with Gruber Motor Car Company in Arizona and they tell me they are going to be refitting individual cells in most EVs after the warranty period. That is probably not applicable for a Leaf unless you live right there, but it might be for a Tesla Model S Plaid
For what it's worth, which in some eyes might not be much, we've just scrapped a 2000 Fiat Siecento, which we'd owned for 17 years, simply because there was corrosion in places that would have been a nightmare to get into and weld because of the proximity of the fuel tank and plastic pipes leading to it, and rightly or wrongly, we've picked up a 2014 Leaf with 200,00 Kms on it, and at the moment, 9 bars of battery still remaining, I gave it the first charge last night since we got it, and this morning, there was 120 Km range showing, and that's before I get Leaf Spy working to sort out if we've got any issues like a module going down, which is possible with a car that's 9 years old.
As a second car, the Fiat did just over 3000 Km last year, and was very rarely outside of a 20 Km radius of home, so for us, it's perfect, even if the battery is not as good as it might have been when new.
One of the deciding factors was the price, it was HALF the price of a same age similar size ICE vehicle, and for what we're doing, we saw no point spending more money on an ICE vehicle for the use we need it for, given how unpredictable our green politicians are, there's no telling what stupidity they will come up with next, and at least with an EV, they will struggle to stop us going into the centre of places like Dublin, and the operating costs will be a fraction of the cost of petrol. If we need to do a longer run, for now, I still have the ICE car I can use for that.
As for scrapping a 10 year old car, the manufacturers could be in for a rude awakening before long, the disposable always growing economic model that so many countries have relied on may well not have much future, not if growth means more carbon usage, there are going to be some very interesting and hard decisions to be taken before too long, and disposable throw away concepts are very much looking like a bad plan,
Might be worth checking the filter if heater air flow is low.
And it also "stinks", so may be old/dirty
The LEAF satnav will initially give you the distance to your destination as the crow flies (there's a small arrow next to he distance). When the route is activated, then the driving distance is displayed. It took me a while to work this out on my old #30 LEAF.
thats not too bad. there's quite a few leafs for sale in NZ with only 55% state of health!
Nice video in a moment, I just came over to buy such a car or even not. I agree to you, that this car is no waste, ITV just needs a new battery. Thanks a lot!
....and now to see how the battery in the Model S is holding up.
Wow this brings back memories, had a 2011 Leaf now a 2015, the differences are quite remarkable for only 4 years improvement.
I get so much info from this, going to do some of what was on here!
björn is the reason I ordered myself a 2021 m3p.
Great video thanks 24% deg at only 62 k miles is a lot .
Just as a reference point - my heatpumpless Kona draws about 2kW when heating up the cabin to comfy 21-22C around 0C ambiental. Oddly, the rear window heater draws FIVE HUNDRED watts.
Tesla cars (and possibly others) don't need 90% for balancing, the BMS can do it almost continually. The process of "learning" to get to 100% across all groups is possibly an entirely different process
Do you have a reliable source for that? Especially for Tesla balancing almost regardless of SOC?
@@FabianYoutubyou ask a sensible and reasonable question. Tesla has made pubic comments on calibration, but not for balancing as I presume normal people will never need to think about it, unlike calibration, which normal people will notice, if the car doesn't get hours of rest (closed contactors) at lower SoC. I've heard the balancing comment from different Tesla service centre staff, and there is solid evidence because there are many high mileage cars that have rarely been charged above 80% (like mine) and yet it is said (sorry no Elon quote) that you almost never see an S3XY with groups that are unbalanced. Remember that cells within a group are wired in parallel, so they definitely are balancing all the time. So this is just about the shunt resistors across groups in series. None of this should be confused with calibration which is totally separate (but both balancing and calibration can affect range). Also, I don't think that forced balancing of the type done in the video is good for battery health anyway. It forces weaker cells to higher voltage than normal, it might be best just to live with several km less range, but keep further degradation at bay.
11:57 It's cells being balanced. The Leaf cells are grouped and within a group they can balance against each other keeping the diff between the lowest and highest cell low even when SOC is low. A simpler system where the balancing only is performed at the end of charging would have low mV diff with high SOC and much more wider span at low. 12:18 My 2018 stopped at 100% the first tims I charged it, but the second SOH went down to 98% the SOC when fully charged went down to 99% etc.. Thus LeafSpy is reporting actual SOC while the dash reports SOC when the buffer is acxounted for. A completely new car does not have buffer so the WLTP will be higher, but most owners will lose range because of this "sales driven strategy"
Hi you have to reduce the scale to show 50mv scale, then it shows the unbalanced cells well. Normally after a charge, leaf spy sets the graph to 300mv.
EVs Enhanced, in Christchurch, New Zealand, can install a 40kWh LEAF battery into these old LEAFs. It works! (But still just passive airflow cooling).
The red bars on the bms is probably indicating resistors turns on to low the cell voltage on those individual cells.
Thats how my bms work, green staples full current , orange staples resistors turn in to decrease current.
Correct the red bars are cells that have the 'shunt' applied.
Give it 2 or 3 rapid charges, 10% to 80%, then another slow charge to 100% and see what you get.
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Thank's for the video, I will do the same on my 2011-Leaf!
(If you want to try an even older leaf, let me know! Have an 2011-Leaf with about 130k km and WEBASTO-heater near Oslo!)
There is one possible way to get capacity back. Only in some circumstances, and only a tiny amount. That is to have the battery stored at under 50% (no charging) for a while. This will undo a small amount of the lithium plating, but a truly tiny amount.
Regarding the poor heater, Perhaps it need a new pollen filter ?
The heater gets restricted in Eco mode. I turn off eco mode if I'm too cold. - '13 Leaf S.
Use the “auto” function. My leaf heats up really fast using auto.
Auto usually is the best choice in every car, so many people complaining about poor heat/cooling in their cars and never use the auto button. it is weird :P
7:19 This is the fresh air button. The recirculation button is underneath the fresh air button.
Also the car needs much more energy to heat the cabin if the AC is on because the car first has to cool and dehumidifi the air then heats it up again.
The early Japanese built leaf did not have a heat pump , in uk from may 2013 onwards the UK (Sunderland favtory built) Leaf Acenta and Tekna trim has PTC and heat pump.
You should say more about Marcusbil! At least say it slow enough that people understand! All credit to them for providing the car
Love my Leaf ! Had a 1963 Ford F-100 pick-up that would get me regular compliments when I drove it to the Grocery Store or Home Depot or wherever . . . . ! BUT 10 MPG plus oil changes, transmission dripping, had to run it every two weeks or so to keep the carburetor from gumming up from fuel evaporation , etc. = I wuz SO happy when I sold it last year ! ! ! The 2015 SV Leaf has yet to see a 'servicing' in the 4 years I have owned it. Brake fluid degradation is the only thing I can think of that would be in question . . . . so I may get that checked next year ? ? Kept in my garage the only service it has had is windshield washer fluid (& the wiper blades still work as new). Battery is at 10 bars / 78 mile range = should be good for another 8 to ten years . I never get a compliment on it when out and about.
Yup, Love my Leaf ! ! ! Thanks, RH
I've been looking at some 2011-2012 24kWh Leaf models for my Daughter, she only has to drive a 32 mile round trip to get to college and back and you can buy a Leaf in the UK for £4k (47k NOK) with a 64 mile (102km) range. Then at a later date you can get a refurbished battery to get your range back.
@@Koda14 I will second this. The early cars are not a great idea. They had enough problems when new (handbrake actuator being a fairly expensive one) and if its reporting 64 miles range you're not getting anywhere near that. Even when new the gom was wildly optimistic and as they age it doesn't get better.
Nice, comfy drive but if you want one get a later one or better than that avoid them (the 24/30 cars were never great) and get a more reliable/durable ev.
Even some phevs will have more range than an early leaf by now - an Ampera for instance is likely to still get a genuine 40+ miles where a leaf showing 64 is likely to be a lot lower. Tha Ampera can also do any long journeys you like without the charging faff early ev's suffer.
iirc the heater has power limited when in ECO mode. That's probably why it wasn't as warm as expected. When in D mode it can pull up to 5kW
It's not the case on the 2012 Leaf, as you can see from the power it is pulling. It's just a matter of figuring out and using the right settings.
does leafspy only work on nissan leaf or does it also work on other ev cars?
Very interesting video. What system do you use to plug into your OSB II to connect to your phone? Additional software required?
Am I correct in saying that the battery can be replaced by a 40kWh unit as the batteries are the same size? All you need is a donor car with a half decent battery and some reprogramming. I think UA-camrs James and Kate have already shown this.
Did these leafs not have 24kWh with 22 ish usable. That would be around 92% so is leaf spy reporting vs full pack size and the car is reporting vs the usable size?
Use the defroster button to get the heat going then switch back to auto-climate once it is warmer
Wow 76% SOH, is pretty good. My 2013 (Gen 1.5) is at 68% but being gen 1.5 I think it gets a bit more range than this one (looks like a gen 1) and so can still get 100km if driven fairly carefully or 80km at 100kmh speed limit. Cell balance doesn't look too bad on mine - typically 15mV but I should do a full cycle like you did and see where its all at. These gen 1 / 1.5 don't have a heatpump connection to the battery (just PTC for when its cold), also the heater is resistive for these earliest model (came in for higher end gen 1.5 and mine is the basic "S" version so doesn't have a heatpump). Even the gen 2 leaf doesn't have a heatpump connection to battery I believe (passive cooled).
I noticed you have the A/C on as well. Doesn't this reduce the heater output?
Is it doable to replace those 20-25 cells and improve whole battery pack without burn house down over time?
Hi Bjorn, did you bought the e-up you were showing? If yes you should do video with that!
i have leaf 30 which is 6 years old here in scotland, its got 110,000 miles and 78% battery health, with the heater it can do 65 miles from full to nearly empty in winter and about 80 miles without heater in summer
That sounds about what we get out of our 30kwh leaf and we have 84.6% battery health. Our consumption is 4.5 miles per kwh and after 80 miles in summer we have between 10% and 15% left but this usually drops quite quickly after this like it is lying to us. However even after going down to --- range and 0% soc leaf spy still says we have 12% left and 1.8 kWh. We have never been to turtle 🐢 mode but I'm worried with the new software update to the battery controller management system ( 4C ) that they've disabled turtle mode and the car will just die ?
I believe the Leaf gen 1 uses a water heater, and kind of regular heating system from an ice veichle👍🇳🇴
True, same thing in the first Leaf in North America. 2013 and up got the "air only" PTC. Much faster heater, but sometimes smells like burnt dust when you fire it up after summer time.
Our Leaf was bought new in Norway in September 2013 (EL26xxx,
assembled in UK). It has today been driven almost 180,000 km / 111,847 miles. Still, all 12 bars are intact. The car you are testing here has only 10 bars even though it "only" has driven 100,000km / 62,137 miles. It was probably imported from warmer regions before it ended up in Norway. Just look at the license plate EL59311 and it is from 2012. Ours is from 2013 (EL26xxx). It should have been our car that had the latest license plate number..not the opposite. Warmer Climate is a battery killer.
Even with a cooling system like in Teslas ? Because they are lot s of Teslas in California 😎🤷♂️
@@Jose.Rechargeplus Cooling system is great, wish our car had it. Let me put it this way: If you live in warmer regions ... cooling system is a "must have"!
@@ivarandreassen3209 you are right
Can u please provide step by step process to recalibrate 24kwh leaf, thanks
Fantastic EV in 2010!
Virtually the only EV in 2010. So the best and the worst at the same time.
Wie hoch war der Verlust der Batterie?
Biorn, If you want a Full 100% SOC you need to conduct this ABC process in a WARM ENVIRONMENT (20 degree C. ) The battery pack needs to be CONSTANT warm temperature. I have experience with this battery chemistry. You may need to repeat this over a week. Ok Try it it will be a good result. Hope this helps you.
4.08V at full charge is quite low... True 100% should be 4.20V right? Is the BMS a little too conservative at the top?
How come the number of chargers look like they have been reset? 2:50 1QC & 13 L2/L2s ? Cannot be possible for 100,578 km! On my UK made 24kW a road trip with 3+ rapids always increased the battery health!
would be interesting if you could borrow a LEAF with upgraded battery or battery extender. I have a 2015 LEAF 24kWh with ~15% degradation and the idea of putting a larger battery or an extender battery in the boot/trunk seems more environmentally friendly than replacing the whole car! Muxsan in the Netherlands is one company that is upgrading LEAF and e-NV200 batteries and adding extenders, as well as 3 phase charging and tow hitch. Apparently they charge faster than the original cars can too!
Turn AC off when trying to use heat bro.
In my Nissan cube, when I turn Auto on in the winter the AC comes on factory default. I press AC to off position. It's a Nissan thing.
It's a double edged sword, because you want it on to prevent moisture fogging up your windows
@@FSXgta lol true 😅
@@FSXgta Hold your breath till summer also works
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I know the batteries were not as good as later generations, and they lacked a heat pump, but the 1st gen Leafs had good points. I like the slightly softer ride, the electric parking brake, the beige interior and the use of aluminium on some panels. Also some of the 2nd gen Leafs (post 2013) had some suspension alignment issues.
What is good about the electric parking brake? Everyone i know hates them.
Easier to use than the footbrake.
I was giving my view of the car, which is why I said "I like...". You have a different view, which is cool.
Why won’t it let you have maximum regen, even when SOC is no where near full?
Hello @Bjørn Nyland and all the readers.
I am for a hunt and trying to understand which is better between these 2 used Nissan Leaf 2017? (1) QC 350 (2) 980 L1/L2
Siden det er første gen så har den ikke varme teppe på batteri, eller varme pumpe. Mulig grunn til redusert batteri så kraftig,
har selv en 2013 mod leaf, gått 97.000 km. ladet 2044 ganger, å kun 12 Hurtigladinger, fremdeles rett under 21 kw på batteriet nor 100% ladet. SOH = 91.94%
Why this 10bars LEAF's range so much short? i got a 24kwh Leaf with 10bars,if i slow-charge it over night,it can charge 15.2kwh juice,the dashboard show up 167km within ECO-mode.
I need some advice on purchasing a 2013 Leaf SV. It has 60k miles and 9 bars of battery health. Owner states about 68 miles on a full charge. This car would be addition to the house for local runs to the store and kid drop offs. I know the battery is now 10 yrs old. How fast do these batteries start depleting after the 9th battery bar indicator. Could I get a few years out of this car? Is it beneficial to look at a battery replacement? The car is in mint condition and a single owner car. At $5k it seems pretty cheap.
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The thing is, in Japan, Most cars are scrapped after 3 years due to high tax & this and that. They don't want old cars on the roads and in the process, keeps their car industry ticking along.
So the theory goes, that Nissan are not really interested in batteries lasting more years than necessary.
Still this theory is opposite to their (Japanese) cars being mechanically more reliable.
Hi Bjorn, I looked at both videos, but don’t understand yet how are you balanced the entire battery? Is it simply because of going down close to zero of the battery which will cause the balancing during the next charged? Or how exactly do you balance the battery, in order to get a higher total capacity? Thanks 😊🙏, Christian
My impression of what is happening (based on my best guesses and assumptions). Doing a fast charge the cells that can take on power readily will reach a higher voltage quicker than the damaged or lower performing cells. The balancing of the cells is not quick enough to match the rate that the power is being added. So at the end of the quick charge the cells were out of balance. But doing a 0-100% charge at a very slow rate gives time for the balancing circuits to distribute the charge and so at the end of the charge cycle the cells are much closer in voltage.
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Wow, 24% is a lot. Does the Leaf limit power output (for acceleration) in any way or is it as fast as it was new?
The 2011 - 2012/3 has a different chemistry compared to the batteries that were fitted to the leaf after 2012/3. My leaf is a 2015 and has done the same mileage as my misses and that is currently sitting at 83% and has lost only 1% since I got it in 4th quarter of 2018.
Maybe some old leafs in the climate control, heater, channel...
Hello Bjorn, would you please consider testing new Fiat 500? This car may surprise you.
Why don't you review the Chevrolet bolt
100651 kmts an only 1 quick charge and 21 slow charges??????????
Dear Bjorn, the way you assess the battery capacity is incorrect.
The Leaf GoM is very very conservative.
With heat on it gets even more conservative, because it's designed to avoid that you get stranded.
I would ignore it and focus only on the Leafspy raw data.
In ideal conditions, you can get it down to 0.11kWh/km and a range of 150km for 16.3kWh usable residual capacity.
If you drive the highway speed limit with the heat full on you will burn 0.2 kWh / km as you did and the range will be only 80km.
If you drive eco-friendly, properly pre-heat and use the right climate control parameters, then you can easily get it down to 0.14 kWh/km in the winter, which gives more range than most people need for their daily commute. Not bad for a used car at a 90% discount from a new Model 3, don't you think?
The Nissan Leaf has already democratized the EV.
There are quite a few places doing battery swap now for leaf, See Muxsan 👍
I have Nissan E-Nv200, 148400km, Soh 82,91% Still all bar remaining. Maybe E-nv200 batterys are more happy becouse of the fan inside the batttery that Leaf not have.
How are the Millenium Falcon repairs going?
Done... The Falcon is ready.
It has no heatpump!
Cant help but notice on the Leaf spy showing 1QC and 13 L1/L2 charges with odometer reading of 100 K plus Klms- how is that possible?
see the previous video
@@trogs2022 Thank you-that explains it.
You have regen limitation at around 30-40% SOC (left bars not fully filled at the left of the display)? I never saw that regen limitation below 80% on my 2016 30kWh Leaf! Maybe because I live in “hot” Portugal! 😁 By the way, in LeafSpy usually the maximum I get is 97% with the Leaf claiming 100%. Below 50% than the LeafSpy reports more SOC than the car. Maybe LeafSpy considers all energy and the car only the available energy (without top-bottom buffer).
I meant left balls of regen... not left bars. By the way my 2016 30 KWh Leaf has 82% SOH with 100.000 Km. Which is not so bad for a warm climate. I can easily get 140-150 Km of range.
Finally another video, how nice. BUT, what's happening - no subtitles either on this one?? Bjørn, hvad sker der? Normalt er der undertekster på dine gode videoer, men ikke denne her og den forrige?? Kunne du tjekke dine indstillinger, da jeg er døv og vil MEGET GERNE kunne forstå hvad der bliver sagt... Thanks so much in advance :)
Subs are up now, maybe youtube is a bit slow to add them :) Lycka till!
Right, mine have even worse degradation, 58% is remained, I imported it from Japan 2,5 year ago and it was 67% at 120 000km, i drove almost nothing 8000km and it degreded 9% for doing nothing, i'm EV fun and know that siting car fully charged is bad and i cared it right way, but i don't know what's going on with it in Japan back in the days, SO :) (same car, same year, same trim, same colore, same rims, same everithing, almost that car) ;)
Mehhh my Leaf is at 58%SOH and is still perfect for around town
The purple heater bar is only for the resistive heater element. If using the heat pump it appears on the A/C bar but the A/C button must be shut off. This is easy to observe if you turn A/C button off with the heat on, then you can see the purple or the blue bar or both the blue bar and the purple bar at the same time meaning that the resistive heater and heat pump are on at the same time. Nissan like to waste power turning on the heater to often. I describe it (in norwegian) but you will still get the point if watching the video ua-cam.com/video/pfLEHimMffo/v-deo.html
Yo what’s up bjorn
They sky that's what's up
Gen 1 leaf battery is really bad for degradation, I live in Australia, it gets super hot and my battery has lost 4 range bars which is about 40% (range bars are not all the same size). I think I’m about to lose my 5. I’ve had the car since new, after 2013 the battery was much better. My car was one of the first few hundred imported into Australia by nissan and everything is a bit hand made on it. The first gen leaf was really average compared to modern EV’s or even the 2013 leaf but I have no regrets. The failings of the car are well worth being able to say I was one of the first ev drivers in Australia.
I dig your Bruce Lee hairstyle.
Maybe somebody in the comments knows, when did Leafs get a heat pump as standard?
2013
Do you bought the leaf or rent it
The dealer Marcus Bill lent it to him.
Marcus Bil (sorry for the spelling mistake) Means Marcus Auto/car in English.
0:00 "Good morning"??
Who's that guy?
9:19...What year is this model leaf. I'm sure the 2012-2013 model does not have a heatpump. Main reason it takes so much energy. (until 30% of range). A konaE64 has a heatpump and at -1 degrees my kona uses ca 600 watt only for heating. (But I heat until maz 18 degrees and use when necessary a warmed chair and steeringwheel...remember , also the leaf has heated chairs and steering wheel)
13:45.. You shiould not compare a teslaS with a leaf in battery degradation when they have the same distance. When using a 21 kwh accu (effective) against a 85kwh battery (effective) the leaf will have at leas three times more load cycles than that teslaS. Comparison would be correct if the Tesla with the same age would have driven 300000 km. Than the battery would have had the same amount of cycles.I do know you are mentioning this. But I would appreciate if you could find a teslaz and test its battery with 300000 km.
Put the climate control on auto. Switch off a/c. Much more efficient
i got a 2019 40 kwh leaf
As do we - battery is degrading 2X as fast as our 2017 did (-9% in 30k mi for 40kWh, -5% for 30kWh after 36k mi).
@@mikecarter2737 ah yeah mine is only 2 years old
I agree that throwing away cars because the battery is no longer useful is a terrible waste of resources and not necessary because battery packs can be repaired or upgraded at reasonable cost assuming you can get the parts and aren't paying Nissan for them (I am sure Nissan disagree - much better to scrap it and buy a shiny new one from their perspective).
What app is he using?
Leafspy
@@MikePiesco I picked up my first electric car, I used leaf just last month. I went ahead and purchased leafs by a pro and I love the wealth of information it is given me. My life is a 2011 so I have been looking over HB battery upgrade options. Since then I have replaced a couple of filled saw modules to get back some of my mileage but would greatly appreciate more as we all would
Use Auto for heating, not A/C!!
This model does not have heatpump. Thats why so high load on heating. One year later model has - I got one.
The battery balances in top but when you drive it lower, the same central heat damaged cells will crap out before others. This can lead to car stopping if you try driving fast with the last 10%. If you go slow, the crappy cells will be helped by others and not drop below "dead" value. Then you can extract more range out of it.
Also SoC percentage came with the next year model :) And the satnav is totally useless if there's any road works done in your area, like 6+ years old maps.
Pro tip "um Ihr Englisch zu verbessern":
- "the Tesla needs way *fewer* cycles to drive the same distance" = number of things/events, "fewer people smoke nowadays". Fewer -- more.
- "I eat less now than I used to", "EVs are less polluting than fossils" = a relative quantity or quality. Less than -- more than.
Dear Bjorn, your heater settings were incorrect. You did not select air recirculation and you set the temperature to 22 degrees Celsius. In cold weather, you need to put the heater at full fan, max temperature, recirculation on, face-blowing mode, A/C off. The car will heat up very fast.
You are blaming the car for not knowing it, which is not totally fair.
This Leaf's air conditioning was stinky because you were blowing in air from outside and/or the cabin filter has never been changed by the owner.
My Leaf is also 9 years old and it smells like new.
Range test it please! 90km/h and 120km/h. I would really like to know what it is capable for.
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Hallo gibt es dein Kanal auch in deutsch
Lern Englisch.
Nein nein nein!