Sanda throws: when you drop your opponent while maintaining ANY 1or 2 points of your body are on the ground or you recover immediately from a sacrifice throw by standing up = 2 points when you drop your opponent when 3 points of your body are on the ground or sacrifice throw = 1 point when you drop your opponent when there is no clear sign of who initiate the throw = 0 point
yeah the main point of why chinese kickboxing is more effective than thai boxing is WRESTLING. Wrestling is way more effective than thai clinch . so you can achieve that style by combining kickboxing with wrestling not even going to chinese kickboxing gym
Bao ligao introduced the current UFC fighter Li Jingliang to MMA. He trainde Li for a couple of years while he was exploring MMA. Thank you for sharing this video, I'd like to see more posts including his lethel throws.
According to FightCommentaryBreakdowns's description, Sanda was founded in 1979. it's thus interesting to note that the few students of Chan Sau Chung all beat full time muay thai pros in the Southeast Asia Open Martial Arts Tournament in the 60's and 70's. They modified Tai Shing Pek Kwar for sanctioned rules with gloves and modified their peks to punches. Some of them fought in very tall stances, and some fought in very low stances, both of which worked and his students were champions in separate years of the tournament. So, basing it on FightCommentary's information, this means when Grandmaster Chan Sau Chung trained his champions, sanda was NOT officially a thing, meaning they didn't use sanda, or not what we define it today.
Modern "San Da散打" is a Chinese style mixed martial art composed of various types of traditional Chinese martial arts and Western influences, including Shuai Jiao, Ba Ji Quan, 蔡李佛, 擒拿, ....etc, not merely Pek Kwar, not just one root. Originally, 散打 was just a loose term used to refer to all kinds of spar, duel and arena fighting(打擂台 Lei Tai) between any type of martial arts in Traditional Chinese Martial Arts category, including spars with weapons, it was not a name of martial art nor a singular systematic martial art nor a combat sport until 1980s.
Sanda is simply kickboxing with judo throws and wrestling takedowns. I find it funny when people claim its a modernised version of a effective ancient Chinese martial art, lol
@@mrt445 Wow such fabulous sophisticated "insight", you invented it by yourself or you read it on internet? Have you even practiced SanDa yourself? SanDa literally is modernized version of Chinese martial arts, there are sanda techniques literally share same names and styles with traditional CMA, such as 斧刃腳, and the grappling / wrestling techniques are derived from Shuai Jiao and Chin Na , not Judo. The punches, kicks, even elbows strikes all have counter-parts in traditional CMA, sanda kicks are the same as 壇腿、戳腳, punches are same as 蔡李佛、羅漢拳, elbows are same to 八極拳、形意拳. The downside is modern sanda incorporates too many western style competitive sport influences which make it looks out of place.
The Chinese government doesn’t want too many people learning functional martial arts and then rising up to challenge the government. Remember the boxer rebellion.
Sanda is such a fun explosive sport to watch. My favorite thing about watching people fight Muay Thai fighters for the first time is seeing them realize that Thai dudes don't care about eating punches to the face lol
AS a Muay Thai guy who had been spar with sanda guy, sanda strike generally much faster and they throw longer combination than Muay Thai and also more dinamic with their movement but they also less powerful and not really acurate with their strike
A friend of mine from Canada worked in China for many years. He also fought MMA. The first opponent they gave him.... was Bao Li Gao, lol. Talk about being thrown to the wolves!
@@FightCommentary my friend's name is Robert Sothmann (Rob if you read this, hope you don't mind me name dropping you, LOL) and he was on Ramsey Dewey's podcast just before he left China. He talked about his fight with Bao Li Gao on it.
Jerry, Have you seen the Han Lei (sanda) vs Samkor (muay thai) fight, which I think may have happened at this same event or similar one. Samkor I believe wins that fight, but Han Lei keeps spamming this interesting single catch to take down. Samkor was known as having a legendary left roundhouse, so to me it was amazing anyone would even attempt to catch it, let alone counter it with a sanda throw.
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What bothers me about MT is the fact that they say "no wrestling/Judo throws" in their ruleset, yet they have clinch holds, and sweeps. Like, hello? How is neckholds not wrestling? At least with Sanda, it's like "Oh, there's neckholds and sweeps? Ah, fulk it, add more wrestling in there." and it seems to be the most complete **STAND UP** style of fighting as well.
What annoys me is that the muay thai do a shit poor job in keeping track of their fight records. So anybody like master wong from youtube can claim to be muay thai world champion. In this case, it was also kind of difficult to find this guy's record but I did. Only his sanda record tho. I had no idea li Gao existed until this video.
It was because 柳海龍 threw his opponent off the stage thrice, and the organisation changed the rules. 寶力高is the first who ko Muay Thai gut under Muay Thai rule. And now, many content farms say his opponent died after the match.
I really like Sanda, I found a Sanda school but it's more like a wushu thing with headgear and bad kickboxing so maybe actually practicing it will have to wait a few years lol
I heard that It's Fake fight - Bao weights 165, Sittichoke weights 155 or thereabouts. Fell down easily in second round. The program showed Kriengkrai as opponent, not him.
what scares me is that many practitioners of some Kung Fu styles practice sanda and when he goes to fight he only uses sanda, and sells it as if it were the style in which he is a practitioner.
I have a bottle containing 1% Saenchai's ballsweat for sale. You sound like you would spend the whole day sniffing it. Will $5k be a fair price for this life changing purchase?
First: Chinese guy looks bigger. Second: the way Muay Thai guys fighting (or lack of) suggest it could of been fixed. Thai guys punches looked like he was purposely not landing.
@@tjsho417 Hey I like Sanda, the takedowns are awesome. But that fight was bs, them pathetic punches that thai guy threw and didn’t even land em. Looked very sus to me.
@@ynghuch Bao Li Gao has an MMA fight history of 5-0. There’s nothing sus about it. He was just better. In fact if anything it looked like the ref was protecting the MT guy. MT fanboys are triggered because they can’t handle other striking arts beating them every now and then. MT isn’t the best striking combat sport. There is no “best” striking combat sport. But MT fanboys don’t want to hear it.
Personally, I wouldn't take these matches too seriously because they were organized by the Chinese government to promote Sanda (and intentionally make Muay Thai look inferior). The rules were obviously changed in favor of the Sanda fighters with no elbow strikes or neck clinches allowed, and the level of the Thai fighters was low. Judging by how defensive most of them were, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd been told to go easy or take a dive either.
@@FightCommentary To be fair, I've seen some matches where Sanda guys did fairly well against MT when throws were allowed. In a striking-only format, however, Sanda usually fails miserably against MT.
Sanda throws:
when you drop your opponent while maintaining ANY 1or 2 points of your body are on the ground or you recover immediately from a sacrifice throw by standing up = 2 points
when you drop your opponent when 3 points of your body are on the ground or sacrifice throw = 1 point
when you drop your opponent when there is no clear sign of who initiate the throw = 0 point
yeah the main point of why chinese kickboxing is more effective than thai boxing is WRESTLING. Wrestling is way more effective than thai clinch . so you can achieve that style by combining kickboxing with wrestling not even going to chinese kickboxing gym
Bao Li Gao was the destroyer of muay thai fighters in thailand. This guy is legendary in sanda
Bao ligao introduced the current UFC fighter Li Jingliang to MMA. He trainde Li for a couple of years while he was exploring MMA. Thank you for sharing this video, I'd like to see more posts including his lethel throws.
According to FightCommentaryBreakdowns's description, Sanda was founded in 1979. it's thus interesting to note that the few students of Chan Sau Chung all beat full time muay thai pros in the Southeast Asia Open Martial Arts Tournament in the 60's and 70's. They modified Tai Shing Pek Kwar for sanctioned rules with gloves and modified their peks to punches. Some of them fought in very tall stances, and some fought in very low stances, both of which worked and his students were champions in separate years of the tournament.
So, basing it on FightCommentary's information, this means when Grandmaster Chan Sau Chung trained his champions, sanda was NOT officially a thing, meaning they didn't use sanda, or not what we define it today.
Modern "San Da散打" is a Chinese style mixed martial art composed of various types of traditional Chinese martial arts and Western influences, including Shuai Jiao, Ba Ji Quan, 蔡李佛, 擒拿, ....etc, not merely Pek Kwar, not just one root.
Originally, 散打 was just a loose term used to refer to all kinds of spar, duel and arena fighting(打擂台 Lei Tai) between any type of martial arts in Traditional Chinese Martial Arts category, including spars with weapons, it was not a name of martial art nor a singular systematic martial art nor a combat sport until 1980s.
@@MrGod47 thnx for sharing the history of sanda.
Sanda is simply kickboxing with judo throws and wrestling takedowns. I find it funny when people claim its a modernised version of a effective ancient Chinese martial art, lol
@@mrt445
Wow such fabulous sophisticated "insight", you invented it by yourself or you read it on internet? Have you even practiced SanDa yourself?
SanDa literally is modernized version of Chinese martial arts, there are sanda techniques literally share same names and styles with traditional CMA, such as 斧刃腳, and the grappling / wrestling techniques are derived from Shuai Jiao and Chin Na , not Judo. The punches, kicks, even elbows strikes all have counter-parts in traditional CMA, sanda kicks are the same as 壇腿、戳腳, punches are same as 蔡李佛、羅漢拳, elbows are same to 八極拳、形意拳. The downside is modern sanda incorporates too many western style competitive sport influences which make it looks out of place.
@@孔方兄-r6e there's nothing wrong with it incorporating modern competitive sports influences from other martial arts if they're effective.
Yes, elbows were allowed at this event
I wish PRC endorsed more Sanda and Shuai Jiao as martial arts and sports for Chinese people.
The Chinese government doesn’t want too many people learning functional martial arts and then rising up to challenge the government. Remember the boxer rebellion.
Great video Jerry. More Sanda vs .... please!
Share this around please. This video is so low in views. Breaks my heart.
sanda just no ground techniques. It has punch, kick, wrestling take downs, knees and elbows as well.
It's a real beast in street fight.
Sanda can be to Muay Thai what wrestling is to BJJ. They can compliment. They don’t need to be rivals.
Sanda is such a fun explosive sport to watch. My favorite thing about watching people fight Muay Thai fighters for the first time is seeing them realize that Thai dudes don't care about eating punches to the face lol
Until the Thai dudes get KO’d, or worse, CTE.
@@tjsho417 I think the CTE only makes them stronger lol
AS a Muay Thai guy who had been spar with sanda guy, sanda strike generally much faster and they throw longer combination than Muay Thai and also more dinamic with their movement but they also less powerful and not really acurate with their strike
A friend of mine from Canada worked in China for many years. He also fought MMA. The first opponent they gave him.... was Bao Li Gao, lol. Talk about being thrown to the wolves!
What? That’s crazy! What’s your friend’s name?
@@FightCommentary my friend's name is Robert Sothmann (Rob if you read this, hope you don't mind me name dropping you, LOL) and he was on Ramsey Dewey's podcast just before he left China. He talked about his fight with Bao Li Gao on it.
I like Sanda because of the throws
Man the history of Chinese martial arts is crazy than I thought
This was a really cool fight.
Especially the sanda guys combos.
I should practice that.
Yeah more Bao Li Gao
Any martial art can beat muay thai if the martial artist is a better fighter. It’s all about skill. Skill is the number 1 factor.
Amazing fight, I also really liked the captions.
Very beatiful video from a Sanda and Muay Thai athlete!
I remember watching this fight legendary fighter and a legend of sanda Bao li gao was awesome.
Correct. Sanda is a hybrid style which has little much to do with kung fu. You can see it as a Chinese version of MMA.
Love sanda's bladed stance.
Jerry, Have you seen the Han Lei (sanda) vs Samkor (muay thai) fight, which I think may have happened at this same event or similar one. Samkor I believe wins that fight, but Han Lei keeps spamming this interesting single catch to take down. Samkor was known as having a legendary left roundhouse, so to me it was amazing anyone would even attempt to catch it, let alone counter it with a sanda throw.
More Sanda and baoli gao please.
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Sanda is my second favorite underrated kickboxing style, the first being Savate
What bothers me about MT is the fact that they say "no wrestling/Judo throws" in their ruleset, yet they have clinch holds, and sweeps. Like, hello? How is neckholds not wrestling?
At least with Sanda, it's like "Oh, there's neckholds and sweeps? Ah, fulk it, add more wrestling in there." and it seems to be the most complete **STAND UP** style of fighting as well.
Definitely! Great comment! Could you remove the f-word. Thanks man! Gotta keep channel save from UA-cam's anger.
I’m with Sifu Ranton; it will be awesome when more Chinese Martial Artists get into pro fighting
Educational. Thank you.
Oo now I want to see the difference side by side. Chinese wrestling with punches vs striking with some wrestling...
Jerry, do you have the ft of the match between柳海龍&穆斯里穆 (The Legendary match in Snada history)
What annoys me is that the muay thai do a shit poor job in keeping track of their fight records. So anybody like master wong from youtube can claim to be muay thai world champion.
In this case, it was also kind of difficult to find this guy's record but I did. Only his sanda record tho.
I had no idea li Gao existed until this video.
that combo is gold
It was because 柳海龍 threw his opponent off the stage thrice, and the organisation changed the rules. 寶力高is the first who ko Muay Thai gut under Muay Thai rule. And now, many content farms say his opponent died after the match.
5:37 to 6:06 why is the referee breaking them up when their hands are still free? was he trying to rig the fight?
Sanda & Muay Thai unified rules with All 8 limbs and All throws allowed is dope. They should have more clinching time tho.
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Bao Li Gao was a beast in his prime, comment more videos.
Another key distinction: in sanda you cannot put a knee down to do a double leg in mma you almost always do
This was a good fight I like sanda too
Did you get this from my channel? If so all good 😊. Ive enjoyed your commentaries and videos
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The pride of the Stepple寶力高、柳腿劈掛柳海龍
I really like Sanda, I found a Sanda school but it's more like a wushu thing with headgear and bad kickboxing so maybe actually practicing it will have to wait a few years lol
6:15 KAIZOKU-OH!
Do Sentras count as Nissans?
I think so ;)
@@FightCommentary is mayonnaise an instrument? ⭐️🐠
I heard that It's Fake fight - Bao weights 165, Sittichoke weights 155 or thereabouts. Fell down easily in second round. The program showed Kriengkrai as opponent, not him.
There should be a video(s) on UA-cam where Sanda fighters destroy a team of Kyokushin fighters from Japan.
Not surprised Sanda beat Muay Thai. Sanda is very similar to judo.
what scares me is that many practitioners of some Kung Fu styles practice sanda and when he goes to fight he only uses sanda, and sells it as if it were the style in which he is a practitioner.
How can it say "Sanda beat Muay Thai" when its Mauy Thai fighting rules. Not Sanda ... or am I missing something
Singdam was defeated by a sanda fighter
Wow this Chinese guy is strong
You Shang Tsung Bruh?
I remember a similar event with samkor blasting his Chinese opponent , for the opponent to be declared winner because he did few sanda throws
I have a bottle containing 1% Saenchai's ballsweat for sale.
You sound like you would spend the whole day sniffing it.
Will $5k be a fair price for this life changing purchase?
First: Chinese guy looks bigger. Second: the way Muay Thai guys fighting (or lack of) suggest it could of been fixed. Thai guys punches looked like he was purposely not landing.
No, Sanda guy won fair and square. MT isn’t the end all be all for striking.
@@tjsho417 Hey I like Sanda, the takedowns are awesome. But that fight was bs, them pathetic punches that thai guy threw and didn’t even land em. Looked very sus to me.
@@ynghuch Bao Li Gao has an MMA fight history of 5-0. There’s nothing sus about it. He was just better. In fact if anything it looked like the ref was protecting the MT guy. MT fanboys are triggered because they can’t handle other striking arts beating them every now and then. MT isn’t the best striking combat sport. There is no “best” striking combat sport. But MT fanboys don’t want to hear it.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU 👍👍
@@ynghuch I AGREE... IT WAS FIXED 👍👍
Ballet Gaul vs City Truck
Street Fighter?
Muaythai guys can take hits and does sanda count as king fu
Not the first time.
He was probing, found the opening, and exploited it.
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haha... I don't care about Muay Thai. But he won 'cause elbows are protected.
the muay thai fighter is not good
Third comment
Personally, I wouldn't take these matches too seriously because they were organized by the Chinese government to promote Sanda (and intentionally make Muay Thai look inferior). The rules were obviously changed in favor of the Sanda fighters with no elbow strikes or neck clinches allowed, and the level of the Thai fighters was low. Judging by how defensive most of them were, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd been told to go easy or take a dive either.
Sanda was getting destroyed in these matches. This was one of the exceptions.
@@FightCommentary To be fair, I've seen some matches where Sanda guys did fairly well against MT when throws were allowed. In a striking-only format, however, Sanda usually fails miserably against MT.
Except this was legit. Bao Li Gao destroyed MT fighters regularly
karate and taekwando are the rebranding of Tang Soo Do (唐手道）which means the Tang dynasty Hand Way of Fight.
Everything is from Bodhidharma Tamil Kanchipuram Pallava Dynasty
Too nuch branding bs