This deserves far more views. What a wonderful lecture. I've studied Surrealism with a passion since '97 yet I still heard new info here after all that time. Surrealism is dead. Viva Surrealism!
seriously, this lecture was so amazingly good i had to clap along with the audience at the end of the video... thanks a million for making it available
I find interesting how Dada appeared simultaneously in six different cities. It means not only that some people emotionally react to the phenomenon in the same way, it is known thing, but also art representation of their feelings and emotions can be somewhat similar.
Dada wasn't allowed to appear in London - Schwitters tried and his Merz was rejected - so we're making up for that. The Dadaists were hated by the establishment of the time.. and they hate us now too
With regards to dadaism, this video basically regurgitates the same old "in a nutshell" kind of mass-marketed 'art book' description of dada that defines the movement as a nihilistic 'haha' prelude to Surrealism. Alas, the 'art' establishment "still needs an operation" (see Tristan Tzara). For all their passive-aggressive faux-bravado, lecturers like this still miss the many varying points and mediums of dada, two of which being the freedoms of expression and artistic license. Rather than doing some real research into the movement, so called 'art' experts still choose to prattle on about anarchism, urinals and absurdity (and, in the USA, communism). They still choose to dismiss the earnestness of Hugo Ball's poem Karawane (and, moreover, his recital of it). They still get very nervous in their failure to describe (or perhaps understand) what a 'frothy nothing' is or how the the elements of 'chance' and 'brevity' (not absurdity) figure highly in dadaism. In pretending to "get the joke", they reveal themselves as what they truly are. VIVA DADA!
... except I don't have a book on Dada ... or even a pamphlet ... :P Just a matter of poetic license and willful expression. PS: Hans Richter's book has become the 'go to' book published by a very commercial art publishing mogul. There's lots more out there to be dug there, especially stuff requiring translation. But I digress ... Viva Dada!
+gabsylv I "discovered" dadaism 44 years ago, and related to it immediately. My art history prof. considered them nothing but a bunch of no talent bohemians and that Dadaism didn't even belong in an art history book. So at the end of the year I did my class term paper on Dada, my teacher gave me a "D" for Dada, I went over his head to my Dept. Head who changed my grade to an A. blah, blah blah. But the artists whom were part of Dada, could paint & draw with the best of them, Marcel Duchamp proved this by painting in all the styles, including cubism with his painting "Nude descending the Staircase, or was it Bride ? either way he showed he could paint as well as Picasso, he just wasn't an ego maniac about his work like Pablo was.
+gabsylv -- Haven't been on the net for awhile but I want to mention something I left out of my last post here. Duchamp & his fellow Dadaists were in a way poking fun out of their own fellow artists for having over inflated egos about themselves. Artists in the last part of the 19th century & into the first part of the 20th century were the "Rock Stars" of their day & were receiving huge sums of money for their work like never before. This, & I think correctly so, was/is attributed to the Industrial Age where the super rich were looking for a place to spend their money & what better way to "decorate" their mansions to "show off" their riches than with art work. Unscrupulous "Art Dealers" made a fortune during this time & together with art critics were determining what art was... & worth investing in. Dadaism was really poking fun out of all this absurdness by throwing this absurdness right back at the public but since it was done in such an esoteric way that I think their ideas never caught on to the public at large & maybe that was meant to be as well. Dadaism expressed the absurdity of what people held sacred entering the 20th century which wasn't lost on everybody, I think the Marx Bros. & a few other comedians understood it as well.
Well, at least that was, in part, the story of Dadaism in the USA ... As for the rest of the world, see the NSA and the film 'Dada Venduza' www.reelhouse.org/jayschwartz/dadavenduza
Indeed, these academics do redact much on the spirit of Dada and the essentially its moral protest direction that was the basis of Ball's idea in setting up Cabaret Voltaire in 1916. Neutering Dada to a mere "anti art" movement. The meaning behind Ball's sound poem for example is a protest at the abuse of language by politicians that led to war and that is obviously relevant today.
Can you/anoyone tell me where i can find further information(books etc) about Breton in Nantes during ww1, and basically any other information about his usage of freuds theories.
Check out Mark Polizzotti's biography of Breton, which gives a fairly deep amount of detail on all that: www.goodreads.com/book/show/110461.Revolution_of_the_Mind
Surrealism isn't dead..that is like saying Christianity died with the last apostle or Marxism with Marx. It will continue to evolve and live in a subterranean fashion
in my dada interpretation, the bomb is the worst atrocity and Surrealism, dealing with dreams, ends in the worst nightmare-the real world nightmare--no more "surreal" interpretation is necessary because the worst has happened, their is nothing more horrifying to predict (through art)
Seems that Futurism was more of an influence than the Communists / Bolsheviks... Anyhow, the poster "on the right" is dated 1920 and Dada typography was already established by then and even derivative of the Italian Futurists...
Why was it so funny that Leautremont wasn't read by his peers? It's curious how people like to laugh at people's imperfections, yet truly, they are laughing at themselves. The hypocrisy of the masses. This lecture was mediocre considering the difficulty in attempting to lecture on a subject so arduous and philosophical, and fitting such a detailed movement in a short amount of time.
I would say its not "trying to be art for the sake of art", but it's "expression for the sake of transcendence (of identity, structure, form, aesthetics, authority)"
This deserves far more views. What a wonderful lecture. I've studied Surrealism with a passion since '97 yet I still heard new info here after all that time.
Surrealism is dead. Viva Surrealism!
This was a great watch/listen. Just happened upon this and glad that I did.
seriously, this lecture was so amazingly good i had to clap along with the audience at the end of the video... thanks a million for making it available
Really provocative presentation. Thanks much
Very interesting (and helpful for the preparation of my exam). Thank you!
Great lecture:
I find interesting how Dada appeared simultaneously in six different cities. It means not only that some people emotionally react to the phenomenon in the same way, it is known thing, but also art representation of their feelings and emotions can be somewhat similar.
Dada wasn't allowed to appear in London - Schwitters tried and his Merz was rejected - so we're making up for that. The Dadaists were hated by the establishment of the time.. and they hate us now too
amazing lecture...
Good presentation.
Way better than my boring Humanities Professor..
With regards to dadaism, this video basically regurgitates the same old "in a nutshell" kind of mass-marketed 'art book' description of dada that defines the movement as a nihilistic 'haha' prelude to Surrealism. Alas, the 'art' establishment "still needs an operation" (see Tristan Tzara). For all their passive-aggressive faux-bravado, lecturers like this still miss the many varying points and mediums of dada, two of which being the freedoms of expression and artistic license. Rather than doing some real research into the movement, so called 'art' experts still choose to prattle on about anarchism, urinals and absurdity (and, in the USA, communism). They still choose to dismiss the earnestness of Hugo Ball's poem Karawane (and, moreover, his recital of it). They still get very nervous in their failure to describe (or perhaps understand) what a 'frothy nothing' is or how the the elements of 'chance' and 'brevity' (not absurdity) figure highly in dadaism. In pretending to "get the joke", they reveal themselves as what they truly are. VIVA DADA!
... except I don't have a book on Dada ... or even a pamphlet ... :P Just a matter of poetic license and willful expression. PS: Hans Richter's book has become the 'go to' book published by a very commercial art publishing mogul. There's lots more out there to be dug there, especially stuff requiring translation. But I digress ... Viva Dada!
+gabsylv I "discovered" dadaism 44 years ago, and related to it immediately. My art history prof. considered them nothing but a bunch of no talent bohemians and that Dadaism didn't even belong in an art history book. So at the end of the year I did my class term paper on Dada, my teacher gave me a "D" for Dada, I went over his head to my Dept. Head who changed my grade to an A. blah, blah blah. But the artists whom were part of Dada, could paint & draw with the best of them, Marcel Duchamp proved this by painting in all the styles, including cubism with his painting "Nude descending the Staircase, or was it Bride ? either way he showed he could paint as well as Picasso, he just wasn't an ego maniac about his work like Pablo was.
+gabsylv -- Haven't been on the net for awhile but I want to mention something I left out of my last post here.
Duchamp & his fellow Dadaists were in a way poking fun out of their own fellow artists for having over inflated egos about themselves.
Artists in the last part of the 19th century & into the first part of the 20th century were the "Rock Stars" of their day & were receiving huge sums of money for their work like never before. This, & I think correctly so, was/is attributed to the Industrial Age where the super rich were looking for a place to spend their money & what better way to "decorate" their mansions to "show off" their riches than with art work. Unscrupulous "Art Dealers" made a fortune during this time & together with art critics were determining what art was... & worth investing in.
Dadaism was really poking fun out of all this absurdness by throwing this absurdness right back at the public but since it was done in such an esoteric way that I think their ideas never caught on to the public at large & maybe that was meant to be as well.
Dadaism expressed the absurdity of what people held sacred entering the 20th century which wasn't lost on everybody, I think the Marx Bros. & a few other comedians understood it as well.
Well, at least that was, in part, the story of Dadaism in the USA ... As for the rest of the world, see the NSA and the film 'Dada Venduza' www.reelhouse.org/jayschwartz/dadavenduza
Indeed, these academics do redact much on the spirit of Dada and the essentially its moral protest direction that was the basis of Ball's idea in setting up Cabaret Voltaire in 1916. Neutering Dada to a mere "anti art" movement. The meaning behind Ball's sound poem for example is a protest at the abuse of language by politicians that led to war and that is obviously relevant today.
We all love Dali. ❤️😉😂
Very good lecture. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the comic on the powerpoint was that featured Dalí, Lacan, and Breton?
Can you/anoyone tell me where i can find further information(books etc) about Breton in Nantes during ww1, and basically any other information about his usage of freuds theories.
Check out Mark Polizzotti's biography of Breton, which gives a fairly deep amount of detail on all that: www.goodreads.com/book/show/110461.Revolution_of_the_Mind
Surrealism isn't dead..that is like saying Christianity died with the last apostle or Marxism with Marx. It will continue to evolve and live in a subterranean fashion
Well I'm a fan of Surrealism but not Marxism but still you make a good point.
I didnt exactly understand the connection between atomic bombs and the end of surrealism. :\
in my dada interpretation, the bomb is the worst atrocity and Surrealism, dealing with dreams, ends in the worst nightmare-the real world nightmare--no more "surreal" interpretation is necessary because the worst has happened, their is nothing more horrifying to predict (through art)
+AB “ABCrane” Crane thanks
That was a really good interpretation. You're like the dada whisperer.
Cannot see the video…
Rimbaud died in Marseille & not in the middle of a desert!
“They were probably just looking for fights”????
my ultimate dream is for no one to know i exist...
Thumbnail guy looks like...Grant Gustin [The FLASH]
Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven did R. Mutt first and did the readymade in art first.
Seems that Futurism was more of an influence than the Communists / Bolsheviks... Anyhow, the poster "on the right" is dated 1920 and Dada typography was already established by then and even derivative of the Italian Futurists...
Why was it so funny that Leautremont wasn't read by his peers? It's curious how people like to laugh at people's imperfections, yet truly, they are laughing at themselves. The hypocrisy of the masses. This lecture was mediocre considering the difficulty in attempting to lecture on a subject so arduous and philosophical, and fitting such a detailed movement in a short amount of time.
Qliphothic Swamptree Yeah, why was everybody laughing? Everything the lecturer said they laughed at.
were still letting billionaires tell us what to do..
Was there a particular point in getting an illiterate to give the presentation?
“Dada is anti art”???
+gonrolgonrol that is very accurate. Thank You.
I would say its not "trying to be art for the sake of art", but it's "expression for the sake of transcendence (of identity, structure, form, aesthetics, authority)"