Be funny if during the demin dragon fight you could get parts from him like demon horn or demon shard they could be more powerful than the regular dragon parts but cause you to take gloom damage would be neat
The TotK final battle made me think. At what point are sentient beings responsible for their actions and at what point aren't they? Ganondorf as a Gerudo is certainly so, given he was of sound mind and body, from what we know. He had the wherewithal to understand the world around him and act accordingly. The malice he built up was all his own. However, we know that through draconification, they essentially lose what made themselves an individual being, or their memories, mind, self, etc. They are basically a biological robot set on the same singular purpose for eternity. Zelda and Ganondorf both preprogrammed themselves with their purposes right before transforming (to heal the Master Sword and protect anyone she can, and to destroy Link and the world, respectively). We aren't totally sure on the other three dragons that I've seen, though they are guardians of their springs, so that's likely their directive. It's just interesting, because they're basically riding on that programming as a dragon, without the ability to make informed decisions of any kind at that point. The only decisions they seem to make stem from whatever their directive is. So...given that, and their seeming inability to interpret the world around them in any meaningful way (that's an assumption, not proven from what I've seen), are they truly responsible for their actions at that point? Ganondorf as a Gerudo surely is, for both the damage he did before he became a dragon, and the conditioning of himself as he went through draconification, but what about after? What if someone wanted to change? Do we know that they'd always stay the same crappy entity if given the chance to do better, throughout an eternity? It's just such a simple bit of interaction that makes you wonder. Then you bring it to the real world and the scope of mental health and psychology versus crime/harm to others. Where is the line for where it is entirely one's own fault and when is their reality twisted enough to where they can't be expected to think through their daily lives on their own anymore? Where does the blame lie, and when? It's such a complex topic haha, admittedly a bit more simplified in LoZ, but still fascinating to me. If anyone actually read this, thank you. 😂 I hope there are others out there that wonder about weird stuff like this, too.
I think about these things too. This sort of thinking is why I oppose the death penalty. The matter of whether someone is completely evil/incapable of changing or not is just too messy to *not* give them a second chance. In other words, I dont think we can accurately judge whether people can or will change if they dont already have a record of committing crimes repeatedly after being apprehended.
Personally, I think the last wish before dravonification become the dragon only thought or something like that, zelda wanted to help link, ganondorf wanted to kill him.
They're difficult the first few times you fight them, but once you progress a bit more in the game and get more stuff to make the fight easier (keese eyes, rockets, bombs, etc.) You'll just go through the patterns and motions of what to do. Still though, Gleeoks in Totk are undoubtedly the best and most difficult dragon fights in the entire series.
@@DinoandGalaxy Thunder Gleeok is the hardest in my opinion, all of it's attacks shock you and it's lightning storming so you can't have metal weapons equipped. It becomes way easier if you have the Thunder Helm
If I have to guess, Ganondorf created it as a powerful servant (king gleeok after all) for when he would unleash his army, but wanted to keep it safe in case a powerful enough warrior would slay it because it ask a lot of power to create it, unlike all the bosses who are first and foremost there to prevent the secret stones from being obtained. So he created it directly under Typhlo Ruins (which also seems like an important place judging by the sage's statues). It sound a bit stupid at first glance, until you remember Link can hunt gleeok for fun, and Ganondorf was warned about him.
Kermit Mahomes To be fair, the Dragons are large, but perfectly tube-shaped, which is perfect for slithering around tight places haha. If anyone is getting naughty images from what I just said, you're not the only one. I just realized how I phrased that, but I'm leaving it lol.
favourite dragon in the Zelda series? Argorok. which dragon should make a comeback in the next game? Aquamentus. Gleeok came back, and it's one hell of a battle from what i saw. Aquamentus needs that overhaul, as a mini boss; it's the least they can do for him - and he better breathe fire like the Fire-Breath Lizalfos. (and it'd bring the dragon type count to 3)
Everybody watching this video knows how the Gleeok's description in Phantom Hourglass said that it was a two headed dragon, right? If it's a two headed dragon, how is it that one head stays behind while the other one goes in for a bite attack without the other one moving?
Spoilers: Considering the lore changes in TOTK, regarding the fact that some of the Zonai evolved into dragons through the process of "dragonification", does that mean some of the dragons we've killed in other Zelda games were actually other Zonai?
-SPOILERS- I dont think they are zonai because when zelda and ganondorf become dragons, they turn into serpent dragons as i call them, but then the other dragons (except naydra, farosh, and dinraal) are just normal dragons.
Unlikely : if you look at both Zelda's and Ganon's dragon form, you'll notice their ears are either absent or much smaller than the Zonai dragons. Zonai have bigger ears than even Hylians, while Gerudo have rounded small ears, so the dragonification still leave some traits from the original body. If we had fought Zonai dragons before, they also would have had long ears. Also, it stand to reason that the secret stones are limited in number, 10 secret stones sound like an arbitrary but logical finite number of them. And the presence of Gleeok confirm there isn't just one kind of "dragon" that can exist simultaneously, but multiple. So all in all, no reason to consider any of the dragons we fought were Zonais. There could be however more of them than the three we know.
The Zonai did not turn into Dragons. The Spring Guardians are not Zonai, those are described by the Hylia Statues as being Spirits who have taken the forms of Dragons. They were not Mortals, but were already Immortal Entities and thus do not conform to the same rules of Draconification.
Im wondering if the botw guardian dragons could be missing sages. It's unlikely cause Zelda doubles as the sage of light and time (making 7) and were really only missing a forest sage which doesn't align to their elements but it would be interesting
I would have thought Twilight Fossil Stallord would have been on this list. He seems very dragonlike, and his 2nd phase is Volvagia and King Dodongo's boss theme.
Why were you skipping out on the heart containers in your ocarina of time run? You should have at least seven hearts, by the time you fight that dragon
after the story of draconification it's not really too farfetched to believe that the original dragons farosh naydra and dinraal are either previous zonai or sages gifted secret stones
At what point are sentient beings responsible for their actions and at what point aren't they? Ganondorf as a Gerudo is certainly so, given he was of sound mind and body, from what we know. He had the wherewithal to understand the world around him and act accordingly. The malice he built up was all his own.
Bruh. Did you literally copy a paragraph from one of the top comments? Not even the whole comment, but a single paragraph taken entirely out of context?
I know that TOTK came out over a month ago, and I say this in a nice way, but fuck that thumbnail. I didn’t know there was a dragon fight in totk besides the Gleeocks until I saw that
This message won't be related to this video but i promise that the message will be a good message and not a bad one and the message is: Will there be a Tangled 2?Keep these scenes in the film:1.Rapunzel stuffs her mouth while eating cookies and Eugene says "how romantic, i have never seen any one eating like that and that way of eating is awesome" and Rapunzel says jn a muffled voice "thank you" and Eugene says "you're welcome" and Rapunzel makes a very big swallow thus finishing her snack.2.Mother Gothel gets revived by her cloak's magic and her cloak fell out of the tower when Pascal used Rapunzel's cut off long hair to make Mother Gothel fall off her tower in back in 2010 and Mother Gothel takes off her cloak and she is very hungry and she voraciously stuffs her mouth while eating bread and makes a very big swallow thus finishing her food and she says "that bread tasted so good and by the way, i am going to find Eugene, Rapunzel and her little chameleon" and Mother Gothel starts hunting for Eugene, Rapunzel and her pet chameleon Pascal.
Haha I still haven't fought one yet. Considering my last month and half of playing has been my skipping around the same routes, getting distracted every five minutes, and doing worthwhile stuff extremely slowly...yeah, not happening soon lol.
@@wantedbird55srandomchannel28 don’t remind me. If I ever get to playing a game, I’m gonna do what I see others doing and keep an explosive or a rocket attached to a shield to try and get away.
Lol, these arent just ANY dragons. 1 is Aquamentus (Unicorn Dragon). The other is Gleeok (multiple heads). I dont recall the name for the ones in Zelda 2 (could be Volvagia, like from OoT), G&W, Twilight Princess (i know. It says the name), The Minish Cap (i thought it was just a single head Gleeok), among others.
Volcania dans ocarina of time qu'on découvrira que plus tard dans le manga qu'il fut un ancien ami de link ( il 'avait achete dans un marche ) mais qu'il sera capture par Ganondorf pour en faire un terrifiant monstre pret a reduire en cendres le royaume d'hyrule ce qui brisera le coeur quitte a sacrifier son ancien compagnon pour sauver les siens😢😢😢😢
when Link destroyed the stone on Ganondorf's draconic forehead, I was like, "that's for Sonia ya bastard!".
That Naydra ‘fight’ was really fun, even if it wasn’t really a fight!
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Naydra was literally a foreshadowing of totk
YES SOME ONE ELSE WHO AGREES!
I realized the final fight was similar to naydra
Be funny if during the demin dragon fight you could get parts from him like demon horn or demon shard they could be more powerful than the regular dragon parts but cause you to take gloom damage would be neat
When you beat it the game ends
Yeah but when game ends, you are sent back to the point before the fight, so you get nothing.
@@magnabueno5360 Except Photos of the bosses
The TotK final battle made me think.
At what point are sentient beings responsible for their actions and at what point aren't they? Ganondorf as a Gerudo is certainly so, given he was of sound mind and body, from what we know. He had the wherewithal to understand the world around him and act accordingly. The malice he built up was all his own.
However, we know that through draconification, they essentially lose what made themselves an individual being, or their memories, mind, self, etc. They are basically a biological robot set on the same singular purpose for eternity. Zelda and Ganondorf both preprogrammed themselves with their purposes right before transforming (to heal the Master Sword and protect anyone she can, and to destroy Link and the world, respectively). We aren't totally sure on the other three dragons that I've seen, though they are guardians of their springs, so that's likely their directive.
It's just interesting, because they're basically riding on that programming as a dragon, without the ability to make informed decisions of any kind at that point. The only decisions they seem to make stem from whatever their directive is. So...given that, and their seeming inability to interpret the world around them in any meaningful way (that's an assumption, not proven from what I've seen), are they truly responsible for their actions at that point? Ganondorf as a Gerudo surely is, for both the damage he did before he became a dragon, and the conditioning of himself as he went through draconification, but what about after? What if someone wanted to change? Do we know that they'd always stay the same crappy entity if given the chance to do better, throughout an eternity?
It's just such a simple bit of interaction that makes you wonder. Then you bring it to the real world and the scope of mental health and psychology versus crime/harm to others. Where is the line for where it is entirely one's own fault and when is their reality twisted enough to where they can't be expected to think through their daily lives on their own anymore? Where does the blame lie, and when? It's such a complex topic haha, admittedly a bit more simplified in LoZ, but still fascinating to me.
If anyone actually read this, thank you. 😂 I hope there are others out there that wonder about weird stuff like this, too.
Was wondering about this too! Especially with Calamity Ganon from BoTW since that one is kind of a byproduct of Ganondorf’s festering dark energy.
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I think about these things too. This sort of thinking is why I oppose the death penalty. The matter of whether someone is completely evil/incapable of changing or not is just too messy to *not* give them a second chance. In other words, I dont think we can accurately judge whether people can or will change if they dont already have a record of committing crimes repeatedly after being apprehended.
Personally, I think the last wish before dravonification become the dragon only thought or something like that, zelda wanted to help link, ganondorf wanted to kill him.
That's a valid point
I had a WAY harder time fighting the new Gleok than with any one of these other dragons. Anyone else feel this way?
Nah, Onox is *way* harder than Gleeok.
They're difficult the first few times you fight them, but once you progress a bit more in the game and get more stuff to make the fight easier (keese eyes, rockets, bombs, etc.) You'll just go through the patterns and motions of what to do. Still though, Gleeoks in Totk are undoubtedly the best and most difficult dragon fights in the entire series.
Are you talking about the king Gleeok, flame Gleeok, frost Gleeok, or the thunder Gleeok?
@@DinoandGalaxyhe means all of them stop being a smartass
@@DinoandGalaxy Thunder Gleeok is the hardest in my opinion, all of it's attacks shock you and it's lightning storming so you can't have metal weapons equipped. It becomes way easier if you have the Thunder Helm
Imagine if the new gleeok still did that floating decapitated head thing.
It would look kinda goofy because of their design, but yeah
Would be cool if Stalgleeoks (Staleeoks?) existed...giant skeleton dragon heads that just spat globs of gloom at you.
Gotta admit the dragon in twilight princess was so freakin hard for no reason the first time. Not to mention the temple….great fight tho! And design
I beat him without getting hit the first time I played the game.
after stalnox he is the easiest boss in the game... 😢
the complete curbstomp of LoZ2's dragon had me rolling
Me wondering how an entire Gleok made its way under Typhlo Ruins.
If I have to guess, Ganondorf created it as a powerful servant (king gleeok after all) for when he would unleash his army, but wanted to keep it safe in case a powerful enough warrior would slay it because it ask a lot of power to create it, unlike all the bosses who are first and foremost there to prevent the secret stones from being obtained. So he created it directly under Typhlo Ruins (which also seems like an important place judging by the sage's statues).
It sound a bit stupid at first glance, until you remember Link can hunt gleeok for fun, and Ganondorf was warned about him.
Kermit Mahomes
To be fair, the Dragons are large, but perfectly tube-shaped, which is perfect for slithering around tight places haha.
If anyone is getting naughty images from what I just said, you're not the only one. I just realized how I phrased that, but I'm leaving it lol.
@@Mustard_Face I guess so. Gleoks just do slither and flap a lot.
favourite dragon in the Zelda series? Argorok.
which dragon should make a comeback in the next game? Aquamentus.
Gleeok came back, and it's one hell of a battle from what i saw. Aquamentus needs that overhaul, as a mini boss; it's the least they can do for him - and he better breathe fire like the Fire-Breath Lizalfos.
(and it'd bring the dragon type count to 3)
Only real ones remember aquamentus ✊
1:34: The Game & Watch dragon looks like a hybrid of Charizard and Ridley.
Also, I think Volvagia whipping its fiery mane could be based on a kabuki dancer.
It isn't a fantasy adventure video game without some good old dragon-slaying.
We need MORE dragons in the Zelda series!
Aquamentus returning would give him a chance to shine. Gleeok got it, so why not Aquamentus?
I HAVE NOT BEATEN THE NEW GAME BUT FOR BOTW CORRUPT DRAGON TAKES THE WIN THAT WAS SO COOL!! THE DISTORTED MUSIC AND ALL!
Everybody watching this video knows how the Gleeok's description in Phantom Hourglass said that it was a two headed dragon, right? If it's a two headed dragon, how is it that one head stays behind while the other one goes in for a bite attack without the other one moving?
My point is, when the body of one Gleeok goes for the platform, the other one should follow suit.
That’s not Gleeok in TOTK, that’s King Ghidorah.
RIP Aquamentus. Unlike its four headed cousin, it didn't appeared in ToTK
Now that Gleeoks have returned we need Aquamentus in the totk dlc
Actually true, one of the Oracle games had it
Nvm totk isn’t getting a dlc
Best drago fight in the Legend of Zelda series? I like Corrupted Naydra (Botw), Gleeok (TOTK mini boss), and the Demon Dragon (TOTK, final boss)
Still can’t believe that Ganondorf got hit with fucking orbital laser
Spoilers: Considering the lore changes in TOTK, regarding the fact that some of the Zonai evolved into dragons through the process of "dragonification", does that mean some of the dragons we've killed in other Zelda games were actually other Zonai?
-SPOILERS- I dont think they are zonai because when zelda and ganondorf become dragons, they turn into serpent dragons as i call them, but then the other dragons (except naydra, farosh, and dinraal) are just normal dragons.
Unlikely : if you look at both Zelda's and Ganon's dragon form, you'll notice their ears are either absent or much smaller than the Zonai dragons. Zonai have bigger ears than even Hylians, while Gerudo have rounded small ears, so the dragonification still leave some traits from the original body. If we had fought Zonai dragons before, they also would have had long ears.
Also, it stand to reason that the secret stones are limited in number, 10 secret stones sound like an arbitrary but logical finite number of them.
And the presence of Gleeok confirm there isn't just one kind of "dragon" that can exist simultaneously, but multiple. So all in all, no reason to consider any of the dragons we fought were Zonais. There could be however more of them than the three we know.
The Zonai did not turn into Dragons. The Spring Guardians are not Zonai, those are described by the Hylia Statues as being Spirits who have taken the forms of Dragons. They were not Mortals, but were already Immortal Entities and thus do not conform to the same rules of Draconification.
It’s whatever you want it to be man. I really don’t think Nintendo pays that much attention to the timeline when they make these games tbh
@@123imapie4volvagia is a serpent dragon too
Majora is also considered a dragon lorewise kinda surprising he didn't even get mentioned here
man if they made modern twilight princess holy
Im wondering if the botw guardian dragons could be missing sages. It's unlikely cause Zelda doubles as the sage of light and time (making 7) and were really only missing a forest sage which doesn't align to their elements but it would be interesting
Argorok and the Original Gleeoks were way harder than these new gleeoks fr
I would have thought Twilight Fossil Stallord would have been on this list. He seems very dragonlike, and his 2nd phase is Volvagia and King Dodongo's boss theme.
Why were you skipping out on the heart containers in your ocarina of time run? You should have at least seven hearts, by the time you fight that dragon
after the story of draconification it's not really too farfetched to believe that the original dragons farosh naydra and dinraal are either previous zonai or sages gifted secret stones
we need more dragons
The first ever gleeok I slayed was the frost gleeok near tabantha stable
My first was in the Gleeok Den.
Faltan uno de todos los jefes hechiceros, todos los jefes planta, todos los jefes monstruo de un ojo y todos los jefes autómatas.
In totk the final boss is a dragon… DEMON DRAGON
And now Volvagia returned!
I wouldn't really count Naydra as a dragon fight
agreed, she just needs help in clearing off the Malice that has covered most of her body.
@@pauljordan0203 Yeah, if naydra is a dragon fight than a car wash is a car fight
I think you missed the fight in Majora's Mask with the twin dragons
Those are more like worms
Why does that 1 dragon look like a pokemon?
That Zelda 2 one was a flex
BotW Link looks like he's dressed to work at GameStop.
At what point are sentient beings responsible for their actions and at what point aren't they? Ganondorf as a Gerudo is certainly so, given he was of sound mind and body, from what we know. He had the wherewithal to understand the world around him and act accordingly. The malice he built up was all his own.
Bruh. Did you literally copy a paragraph from one of the top comments? Not even the whole comment, but a single paragraph taken entirely out of context?
Shame on him for not doing the Finishing Blow on the Argorock battle
I know that TOTK came out over a month ago, and I say this in a nice way, but fuck that thumbnail. I didn’t know there was a dragon fight in totk besides the Gleeocks until I saw that
Thumbnail is from botw not totk
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Will there be a Tangled 2?Keep these scenes in the film:1.Rapunzel stuffs her mouth while eating cookies and Eugene says "how romantic, i have never seen any one eating like that and that way of eating is awesome" and Rapunzel says jn a muffled voice "thank you" and Eugene says "you're welcome" and Rapunzel makes a very big swallow thus finishing her snack.2.Mother Gothel gets revived by her cloak's magic and her cloak fell out of the tower when Pascal used Rapunzel's cut off long hair to make Mother Gothel fall off her tower in back in 2010 and Mother Gothel takes off her cloak and she is very hungry and she voraciously stuffs her mouth while eating bread and makes a very big swallow thus finishing her food and she says "that bread tasted so good and by the way, i am going to find Eugene, Rapunzel and her little chameleon" and Mother Gothel starts hunting for Eugene, Rapunzel and her pet chameleon Pascal.
Sorry, Jimmy
Your local police know you’re a criminal now 😈
Gleeok is one of the reasons why I’m scared of playing ToTK.
Haha I still haven't fought one yet. Considering my last month and half of playing has been my skipping around the same routes, getting distracted every five minutes, and doing worthwhile stuff extremely slowly...yeah, not happening soon lol.
Well, you don't have to fight a single Gleeok to beat the game, so it's not as scary as you might think.
@@Max-rz8br maybe not. But I’ve seen the videos on fighting them. It has to be such a pain.
Just wait till you meet the hands, and the thing that spawns _after_ defeating them...
@@wantedbird55srandomchannel28 don’t remind me. If I ever get to playing a game, I’m gonna do what I see others doing and keep an explosive or a rocket attached to a shield to try and get away.
YAS TEARS OF THE KINGDOM ITS ON MY NITENDO SWITCH (i helped my mom kill a gleok)
2:54 to poop
Suggestion:
Do one for “lins” (bokobLINS and mobLINS)
Is it gonna be honest, the only Zelda game I played is Breath of the wild
Lol, these arent just ANY dragons. 1 is Aquamentus (Unicorn Dragon). The other is Gleeok (multiple heads).
I dont recall the name for the ones in Zelda 2 (could be Volvagia, like from OoT), G&W, Twilight Princess (i know. It says the name), The Minish Cap (i thought it was just a single head Gleeok), among others.
It says the name in pretty much all of the showcase for each dragon.... I'm confused.
The Dragon from Zelda 2 is called Barba.
It makes me mad how easily the dude killed the gleeoks lol
dang bruh adventure of link destroyed that dragon 😭
Isn’t colgera a dragon?
No, that's not because eit flies that it's a dragon.
The Dragon of Zelda:Minish Cap have aparence's of Pokemon Lugia.
What about Trinexx?
STOPPP I THOUGHT THIS WAS OLD AND I JUST GOT A SPOILER LORD SAVE ME
For being a fantasy series there's not that many dragons in Zelda.
The king Gleeoks are easy I’ve beaten 3 including the gloom one in the depths
Volcania dans ocarina of time qu'on découvrira que plus tard dans le manga qu'il fut un ancien ami de link ( il 'avait achete dans un marche ) mais qu'il sera capture par Ganondorf pour en faire un terrifiant monstre pret a reduire en cendres le royaume d'hyrule ce qui brisera le coeur quitte a sacrifier son ancien compagnon pour sauver les siens😢😢😢😢
Lame, didn't even get the Tomahawk in Zelda G&W
Where's BS The Legend of Zelda Gleeok?
It's a thing and it's the only thing missing in the video.😒
We are really milking this Zelda game for all its worth aren’t we
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I hate gleeok, f it!!!
On a lighter note; why does the Minish cap dragon look like Lugia?
Volvagia is the best
Naydra is A He.
Is Demise rlly gone?
Farosh from The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild is A He.
XD hilarious and boring fight with dragon ganondorf
i mean if they made demon dragon hard and you would die resulting having to fight the demon king’s army again……
It's more intended as a victory lap.
@@Maniacalharp-747 fr
@@ChipChip-b1i yup
@@Maniacalharp-747 imagine nintendo decided to make demon dragon a dark souls boss 💀💀💀
uwu
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Don't steal my spot lol
Idk man I think I was earlier with an actual comment instead of just first