Elgato's New 𝘼𝘿𝙑𝘼𝙉𝘾𝙀𝘿 Capture Card - The HD60 X
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- They made a capture card designed for the XBOX Series X and the Playstation 5. It's pretty dope.
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Chapters:
Intro - 0:00
Unboxing - 0:29
Elgato Lowers Their Prices - 1:14
New Card Design - 1:56
Upgrades from HD60 S+ - 2:39
1440p Resolution and High Refresh Rate Passthrough - 3:29
Capture Resolutions - 4:12
Variable Refresh Rate - 4:38
How It Downscales - 6:48
oops - 7:43
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What capture card is in your rig.. right. now.
Some cheap capture card lmao it cost me like 1.5k rs 😂
HD 60S+ but only one of my 3.0 drivers work so I gotta make compromises on what I want plug in 😅
Live Gamer Ultra
none cant afford one
Hd60 pro
Would still like to see Elgato do a Dual Capture external card. So you don’t need a separate cam link and game capture card.
Yeah. That way I don't need to buy like 2 or 3 of them. The way I have it is I just keep it behind my TV and it's a pain to just keep swapping hdmi cords. If you were going to say just get the pcie capture card, I like just 1 USB cord going to my computer. There would be so much clutter with 4 thick hdmi cables. Heck even 2 cables is bad. Also put a switch on it so you can choose which output you want to capture.
@@ElainesStory I snagged a $20 HDMI splitter off Amazon and how have all my consoles plugged into the HD60S. It’s made life so much nicer, maybe give it a shot!
I'd appreciate their software actually working better with two of their products in the PC at the same time
Hey Jared A
@@carnatron thats almost exactly what i did. I bought a switch tho. Not a splitter. I have XbX, Switch, PS5 all going to the switch.
Elgato needs to make an internal capture card with three HDMI ports. HDMI 1 is for your Camera, HDMI 2 is for your console, and HDMI 3 is pass through for HDMI 2.
If the CamLink Pro can have 4 Inputs I don’t know why a 2 Input one pass through card doesn’t exist yet.
AVerMedia (hi I'm their community manager) released that 2 years ago - the Live Gamer DUO.
PCIe, 4K60 HDR passthrough w/ 1080p60 HDR capture on input/output 1 for console, then 1080p60 capture for a camera on the 2nd input
@@AndyCormierYT Oh I'm well aware, but I prefer Elgato personally. Had some weird technical hiccups with AverMedia stuff in all the times I've tried them (sorry). When I said "doesn't exist yet" I meant in terms of Elgato's product line up.
I got the Aver Media one that does this but I got no space left in the PC as the radiator covers the last PCIE slot lol. Would love a USB one that does this though
@@AndyCormierYT bro, kick something out that will Hulk smash the Stream Deck, please!!
Completely agree. And they can make a portable one as well.
08:30 would love to see a hdmi 2.1 (4k144fps) passthru capable device that's either USB or thunderbolt, don't know if it's technically possible tho.
It is … even soundbars have hdmi 2.1 passthrough. So I dont get the point why capture cards still not have it yet.
The 4K60S+ is capable of capturing and encoding footage at 4K 60fps while plugged in via USB 3.0, which makes me confused about why they haven't made anything like what you suggested yet. Clearly the bandwidth of the USB 3.0 protocol isn't the limiting factor.
Been following this channel for four years. Incredible how much you’ve grown and how much everything has changed. Thanks for being my go to UA-cam channel 🍻
Integration of capture devices directly into monitors (HDMI/ display port in -- USB out) would be great as we'd not have to worry about passthrough specs.
Then you are stuck with what you have on the monitor. That is an extra cost as well without any flexibility.
would never buy this. paying the extra £150 at least for a monitor which will be obselete in a few years and the whole thing will need replacing, or just buy a monitor and a capture card and be able to upgrade them each separately as you need to. Its a no brainer tbh
Place looks nice. I cant wait to see the finished form of it! Nice job
always love your videos tbh there is something calming and just learn curving about it tbh
Finally got to see your video as soon as it came out love your content helps out a ton!
I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Elgato and Avermedia start dabbling into versions of their capture cards that double as HDMI matrices or switchers. They would admittedly be a niche product but they've never been afraid to make niche ones (like the Avermedia duo). For people with multiple systems, being able to switch between active inputs would be a boon (and in Elgato's case, stream deck control!) as it stands, my PS4 and my Switch both go out to a HDMI Switcher, which then goes out to a HDMI splitter (because both were cheaper than a single matrix and the switcher supports auto-switching based on input) which THEN goes out to my big TV for workouts or 'not at my desk' gaming AND to the 4K60Pro which then has a passthrough to my main monitor at my desk.
Imagine having one device that could handle *all* of that for me.
Awesome video man, cleared up a lot of confusion I had about this card ty.
You know what would be dope? A capture card that replaces my stream PC. Like think an "Nvidia Shield" type device with all its power that is just designed to capture your games, with an inbuilt OBS operating system and just pumps everything to your desired streaming platform. Having that second rig used to be such a flex but now it so cumbersome having two PC's and one only being used part of the time. That's a whole bunch of silicon that could be going to people that are waiting to build a gaming PC with all the shortages.
Happy to see VRR passthrough finally but I feel like the next generation consoles have been out long enough now that we should have seen at least a PCiE HDMI 2.1 capable capture card on the market capable of at least passing through 4k120 and VRR. I can understand not having an external unit like the HD 60 X. A mid to high end PC with 8 to 12 cores and/or a decent GPU can handle higher bit rates and FPS. I'd also love to see Twitch and/or UA-cam get off the dated H.264 standard and move to AVI. They've talked about it since late 2018. That would give creators the option to stream higher resolution and FPS content at higher bit rates. The parts and pieces are there, just looking for the software support to combine it all.
AV1 is used internally in UA-cam and Twitch. It is not common to see because we still don't have hardware encoding for AV1, and software encoding is quite hard on CPU.
Intel ARC GPUs are the first ones coming with AV1 hardware encoder, and we will probably see it on AMD and Nvidia on the next gen.
@@mechanicallydev4536 @StopperJJ not only that but decoding AV1 content requires a codec update that not everyone has. phones that aren't running android 10 and some browsers will not be able to decode AV1 streams. I'm not sure about UA-cam but twitch doesn't even have the infrastructure to transcode streams all in H.264. there is no way twitch can switch to AV1 and have it transcode for all streamers. its possible that if they add AV1 to twitch they only allow it for Partner streams who they can guarantee transcoding to but itd still require a massive infrastructure change. The parts and the pieces aren't there
You always make good videos!
Thank you for the knowledge Senpai.
I would love to see capture cards being able to have multiple inputs and choose which one to use through software. As someone that use multiple consoles, it would be a nice feature to have.
The Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle does that however it's painful to find or get working nowadays
This is great. I won't have to spend money on expensive HDMI switchers with low latency then
Ordered one of these specifically for the compatibility with OSSC resolutions. Really looking forward to it!!
Sooooo cracked. The grapple after the mantle was elite
I want them to be compatible with older systems (GameCube, Wii, and so on) and as low of latency as possible. The reason is that I use a capture card so that I can play on my older consoles without having to use my TV. I can record that stuff but for some weird reason I can't play on my monitor.
Daymnn that light looks good behind the plant!
I would love to see them work with MacOS. Like you mentioned in an earlier video, I've got a powerful Mac for work and I'd really like to utilize it for recording and streaming. Currently using an external 4K60 S+ recording to SD card, then editing in Premiere on my Mac.
I just got done buying a s plus and then this! This is one of those videos you actually want to shoot the messenger. 😃 keep up the great work my guy.
Gaming just got gooder 🎮 Streaming too, thanks for these specs and details!
Lets go holy shit i've been waiting for these!
There are really two main categories for capture cards used by streamers. First is console streamers and the second is camera capture. There is a third, but not as prevalent anymore because two PC streaming isn't required anymore, so most PC gamers can game and stream on the same computer while the elite gamers still do for performance reasons. If the Xbox or PlayStation came with a built in USB-C video out, so you could plug directly into your computer and capture the output, then I suspect that the capture card market would overnight loose a major market share.
For me I would like to see Microsoft and Sony make a "streamer" version of their consoles with built in outputs, so you can capture in real-time directly from the console to your PC at native framerates and resolutions. You could also take this the other way if the consoles had tighter integration with streaming software allowing you to stream from the console with all the benefits of a PC. This is all for the ability to lower the entry point for streaming and making it more accessible, so people gravitate to one console or the other based on features they can get.
Ahhh i almost forgot to watch you vid but love you man
Just got this! So far it works great!
M1 ipad as a streaming device would be awesome, I would guess the hard part would be making a streaming app that supports it
This is what I’ve been waiting for I’m building a new pc ( mine is dated ) it will be itx but the boards only have one slot for cards so I couldn’t use the 4k60pro now I can get this thanks for this vid.
HDMI 2.1 for 4k@120hz passthrough for current gen systems. Multi input switching would be nice as well. Ideally, 2-3 console inputs that can be switched with a simultaneous video input would be perfect.
Maybe stuff like recording on SD cards like the 4K60 S+ in a PCI Express, along with being able to separate audio.
4:4:4 12 bit color 4k60.
Probably a pipe dream but it would be nice😅
def. agree on the last part about streaming with something like that on a ipad or mobile device . Would be nice the designed a rig for that
For me this one will be like 10 steps forward as i had very first one slim 60hd with not s or s+. And yes both input and output on one side masive plus.! Good vid!
I think soon enough will see capture cards fully integrated into devices instead of it being a seperate device you need to buy to be able to do that. I think for future consoles that will be mandatory.
They already do. The Xbox series consoles have the ability to record gameplay footage to a USB thumb drive up to an hour
I actually just got the HD 60 pro yesterday! Yeah it does kinda bother me that it can't do more than 1080 60 pass through but the most I plan to stream is 1080p 60 and only streaming around a couple days a week. The lack of cable clutter is amazing
What I want from Capture Cards, is to be able to record and stream more things, like games off of phones and tablets (since Epocam isn't on Android)
PC free recording like the Live gamer portable series (I know Elgato has the One capture card that does this, but I want it to be more affordable, 400 is Steep)
The ability to either use SD cards OR Portable Hard drive to send recorded footage to.
I mostly want the PC free feature, since not everyone has a computer readily available and may need to travel light to certain places.
OOH Bonus one. Maybe a way for this PC free recording capture card to connect to the Wave Mic, as all previous PC free capture cards use the 3.5 3/4 pole jack, Why not upgrade that jack to a USB 3.0 Type C, and for Elgato specifically, the Wave mic.
You can use elgato capture cards to record and stream mobile gameplay, just have to use a splitter to filter out the HDCP protection, I'm really hoping this new card doesn't need that 🤞🤞🤞
I'm currently using a cheap Chinese video capture card that cost like £5 to stream my gameplay from my phone (android)
I think a capture card that will have support for pretty much all devices, upscales your device/platform, and has a built in streaming/recording software (has it's own OS basically)
I bought the original HD60 6ish months or so before the S came out, so my console streaming setup is in need of a boost. Probably going to be picking this up.
Would like to see Harris to review and take a look at the earthworks ethos and icon pro :) very good mics in my opinion, so do please make a video on them if you can
Something like the cam link pro but on a stand alone device that can also record to itself and be used as an SD card reader/media input device.
Hey Harris! One thing I didnt hear you talk about this capture card was issues if any that came up during testing and thats if you did any testing. The one issue a lot of us ElGato capture card users end up having with one or the other capture cards (specially the external ones) is #1. A delay when viewing gameplay. While the HD60 Pro and 4KPro (internal capture cards) are advertised as "instant gameplay" there is still some delay, the HD60 and the HD60S+ have a much longer delay. And #2. Sound and video sync issues...all of ElGato capture cards gave me the same issue with the exception of the HD60 PRO4K (internal one), which was that the longer you stream, the longer a desync in audio you would get, the video will remain the same but the audio would start to fall behind, so you see gameplay but with a delay in the audio...see explosion but you hear the BOOM a second or two later. This could temporarily be fixed by refreshing the capture card mid-stream and permanently be fixed by splitting the audio and video via adapter and sending the audio to the PC or GOXLR via optic line, that way you have a video and audio feed in two separate channels with no delay which is an issue if your motherboard doesnt have a line in and or if you dont have a GOXLR. Hoping that new capture cards dont have either one of this issues and a quality of life zero delay in gameplay. Id pay more for a card that had a extra BUFF in RAM or processing power so that there is not gameplay delay or sound desync with having the option of being an internal or external peripheral. Your thoughts are welcome! Thanks in advance!
HEVC recording, was what I was expecting from a brand new capture card from Elgato in 2022. I guess it's not an easy task since HEVC is missing. Looking back on GoPro or other devices it must be necessary to build a custom SOC to improve their video codec in a unique way.
I expect to see some day that a MB manufacturer will include an HDMI/USB C capture built into the board itself
Was so close to upgrading to the hd60s+ . Can't believe you just dropped this video haha. This will work just fine for switch yeah? For 1080, 30fps
Would love to see a capture device, stream deck, and something like GoXLR or Beacon all in one device.
My company has been actually using Elgato Cards (Cam Link 4K and HD 60 S) plugged in to Android smartphones to do multi location streams for a couple of years now using CameraFi Live and it works flawlessly.
We use this for events that occur over a large area or simultaneously from really far apart locations.
One example would be to live stream Rally competitions, were cars cover huge distances in each course.
I think for the next-gen consoles they need to majorly improve the direct from console streaming. It’s just too limited. Would like to see them bring out software (like obs) for PC & Mac that allows you to do & add more customisation to your console stream.
Elgato is making mooooves this year wow
Thank you for explaining why they were outdated! I need a capture card with certain features this made it easier!
What I would like to see is multiple input/output slots. I mean going external I think that would be really cool to see.
Love the video! Quick question, I want to start streaming using my Xbox Series X and my 13" MacBook Pro M1 2020, so I wanted to confirm if this will work with M1. I see the specs on the website don't mention it so I wanted to be sure. Also, is it necessary to buy a cord that will connect directly to the thunderbolt port on this Mac, or will it work alright with a dongle that has USB-A on it?
Best breakdown
As someone who mainly rocks itx form factor - I have wanted something that is simple and works outside of my SFF case and can still be powerful enough to process frames quickly. Seems like a good solution for small form factor PC peeps.
awesome, im thinking of trading in my s+ for this, but some gameplay fps counters would have been a nice touch
So the two most important features about the El Gato that I care about our Elgato sound capture. Which makes sending audio from PC to PC very simple and then refresh rate. Some capture cards limit your refresh rate on a to PC set up. But unfortunately they are all super expensive still I was looking last night and they were like 250 for the cheapest one on Amazon I haven’t checked their website
I am gearing up for some IRL streaming. like way up in the mountains kind of deal. starlink, plus yolobox, plus solar, and cameras and mics ofc. just filling out the batteries and solar now.
You're right about the Xbox Xonsoles. We've had variable refresh for some time.
Pretty sure tuff gaming capture device does variable refresh rate as well. What I’ve been using the past 4 Months. Really good!
I wanna see a capture card with basically a mini pc built into it that can record, livestream, run possibly discord or any other communication and video application. I think that would be the end all. because you could just chuck it in a case with the computer somewhere or have it on your desk. And if it's good enough you should be able to either remote in or pull up a preview to stick on a second monitor on the main pc. Removing the need for an extra monitor, mouse, keyboard and headset. (or instead of that maybe a built in kvm switch idk) I am thinking like the plug and play ability of most of elgoto's stuff. That would be so cool.
I agree, capture cards in their other state are fine.. I think it would be good for them to expand into the area you mentioned.. So more portable streaming, connect to phones, tablets etc. That way you could even use your iPad or phone or something as a mini streaming device in a 'two pc setup' type scenario. Which may be easier for people short of space, or console gamers not wanting the whole PC setup to stream from console.
I also think another area though could expand into would be an all in one device. that you can also encode and stream straight from. So connect my PC/console/phone/camera into a device and it streams straight to the platform of choice, maybe with two models a pro version with screen where you get chat can do configuration of stream design all that stuff, and a base version where you don't get the screen, but you can preconfigure it from a pc or app on phone so smaller package all round..
Maybe it's time to start a company....
Echo echo echo - slick product design from team Elgatooohhh.
irl streaming would be amazing next level content going live straight from your iphone would change the game of streaming great idea :)
harris before dinner: its pretty done
harris after dinner: its just a capture card
I could see a capture card becoming wireless or even be embedded into every potential media device like a console like PC players do. But potentially even in smartphones. But that may take a while.
i hope we get more irl streaming and content, shitcon/shitcamp were both so much fun.
Nice, we went from a floating river rock to an actual aesthetic looking gaming PC device. Plus everything else it does, I dig. Love it
i hope in the Future, we will see a capturecard that is like a hub for the Mic, the Webcam/Camera and Gamecapture. If streaming over the phone is getting more popular i can see something for that comming as well
all I want from a capture card is support for all audio formats. dolby digital, atmos, dts etc
Would love to see a capture card that has multiple inputs for those who have multiple consoles we like to stream from. That way, we don't have to rely on a splitter to make streaming more convenient.
is hd60x substitute camlink 4k ?
Internal pcie capture card that is 4k 144hz pass through, 1440p 144hz capture, and has an input for camera build in
Hey Harris, I love the look of the new studios but I have to ask: what is the black textured material on your ceiling? I have an office area that would really benefit from something like that. Thanks!
The AVerMedia Live Gamer Ultra GC553 do the same job and on occasion you can have it for 110$ so it's more profitable for the same uses the only advantage is the headphone output directly on the box but you can get it on the pc. (not à break dealer for me but good product).
I want a capture card that lets me use my GPU to do post-process enhancements to console games like Upscaling and Anti Aliasing.
It will never happen, but I want it.
I'd like to see content creation devices go further, being able to capture with out the need for an OBS or extra software. A device that is both the capture card and the broadcasting software all roll into one.
I think there's a gap for a VR capture card. 360 possibility for UA-cam, or screen dampening for a flat screen.
And with a built-in camlink that can also be used to capture your avatar instead of a facecam.
Hi Alpha Gaming - Great video, thanks for sharing! I do have a quick question which I am sure some folks in the community may have the same/similar question - Is the HD60X the only capture card which I can use to capture gameplay from my Windows Gaming PC to capture it and stream it using a Macbook Pro?
I would like them in the future to work more like a GPU, so no matter what kind you buy, you always can update it with drivers, so they dont become obsolete. With the new HD60X, make some top tier software for it, which can be updated like GPU drivers. I dont know if thats a thing or not, or the price just would be to high if they ever did that
For the last couple of years I have been using the HD60S+, and it's been a solid unit, I did have a stutter issue but I fixed it pretty quick. A couple of months ago I had to downsize my monitor, and the new monitor I purchased no matter what I did, I couldn't get a signal from my XSX... So I ended up purchasing the HD60X, which worked a treat... But I noticed that there was stuttering in my recordings. Nothing I have troubleshooted was working. I went to Reddit, but nothing. Found someone who had the stuttering issue as me, but they haven't been able to fix it either. So I reached out to Elgato (waiting for them to get back to me). This morning my husband suggested to plug the HD60S+ back in to see if it will actually work this time. Well, no idea HOW but it works (signal & no stuttering)! I spent $300 for this HD60X. I'm disappointed & have no use for it!
I am using the HD60X. It's awesome! I stream off a old Dell Xeon workstation. I originally purchased a HD60pro PCIe capture card. But it would BSOD at boot most likely due to the age of the workstation. So I took it back and exchanged it for the HD60X. I haven't had a single issue with it yet. There occassional disconnects but that has been very rare. I use the chat link cable from my MV7 (which runs my sound from the PC) Everything works perfectly. Love this device!
I'm late to this party because I only just picked one up. The HDMI cable that came with was either faulty or not a high enough grade to meet the highest specs advertised for the card. Asked my friend who owns one for help and he said he had to replace the HDMI cable to :/
Tried a different cable I owned and it worked great.
I would love to see something like the cam link pro go down in price and maybe the cam link pro be made as an external usb type C
I think it’s super funny that yours shows every fingerprint and smug too. What did they make the S+ from that made them always look nasty dirty?!
I am honestly surprised Nvidia or AMD havnt added a capture slot on their newer cards.
Id love to see a dual PC capture "dock/card". Something with dual pc setup with a kvm usb switch. BIggest thing with Elgato is audio and gaming audio issues. Atleast thats what I had.
+1 it would absolutely adore a solution like that.
I want to see a desktop version of the camlink pro
amazing review, thanks! im getting this product, black friday . maybe it will be cheaper
Yeah I would love an add IRL set up also I recently just purchased a Roland because I saw a video about it anyway can you make a video about that because I don’t really know how to use it thank you
When you where talking about the irl stream, it got me thinking about Hyper rpg (twitch streams) and their mobile irl rig. Maybe connect with them about that?
Yes, always wanted a tablet/ mobile capture. Also! A dual capture would be nice, ratger than having to purchase two separate cards, but that may be too much on one card eh?
Would really appreciate if you could make a step by step on how to record in 1440p and 4k , basically from 1080p to 4k . I can set up a good stream but the recording is nowhere near as good as it should be . Recording should be flawless and easy to handle . When I'm recording at 144p at 60 fps , it's still blurry . I tried changing bitrates and all but nobody goes in to details and showing us examples ( actual tests ) .
Thanks for the other very helpful videos, they helped a lot .
Just snagged this today after watching this. Hopefully that keeps my Series X from blanking the screen out from time to time when switching screens.
Multiple sources would be nice maybe with a button or a switch to change sources?
We need another input port on them to bring in a camera with it. Then allow it to have both your capture and camera in one simple device.
The 1440p and VRR was recently added in a recent playstation's update ;-)
😳😳😳😳 do I need it? Probably not lol. But will I still buy it? YES
If I remember correctly Sony did recently confirm via the PlayStation Blog that VRR will be coming to the PS5 in a near future firmware update, so hopefully we're looking around Q2/Q3 2022 for its release.
It was mentioned in last update that they are releasing it soon.
I also hate when the box pull tabs don't work right. Rocking the HD60 S+. I may scoop this up and use the S+ for my camera. Also, I can't find it anywhere yet. Did you break an embargo?
I have a HD60S+ and wanted to stream Elden ring off of ps 5 but not being able to pass through 4k 60 was a huge roadblock to me doing that without having to buy the 4k card. Especially since I primarily use my Mac for the streaming computer now. With this it gives me the 4k PCI capture card perks without needing it and still being able to use my streaming computer of choice my Mac. Smart move Elgato.
It would definitely be nice to get the game chat over HDMI on Xbox.
Analog distorts the sound in my opinion 🤙🏾
In the console's settings, you can tell the Xbox to output chat to headset only, speakers (HDMI) only, or both.
@@CyberKnight1 you can do this on the regular Xbox one?
@@CyberKnight1 oh wait a minute I know what you’re talking about I did that but Elgato still needs to be in Analog cause the chat didn’t come through on setting just speakers on Xbox
@@CyberKnight1 Elgato used to have a feature in the app where the user could select HDMI with analog but they must have got rid of it