TikTokers Are Getting A Harsh Reality Check

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  • Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
  • We’ve all seen TikTokers rise to fame overnight. All of a sudden, they have millions of followers, tens of millions of likes, and hundreds of millions of views. But while they might be famous, this vitality doesn’t actually translate to much money, at least not from TikTok itself. Obviously, creators are able to do brand deals, sponsorships, and affiliate marketing which makes it worthwhile, but the income from Adsense is quite low, to say the least. Khaby Lame for example is the most followed TikToker on the planet with 159 million followers. But given that TikTok only pays $0.02 to $0.04 per 1000 views, even Khaby has only earned about $540,000 in ad revenue. Not a bad amount, but let’s not forget that he’s the most followed TikToker in the world. Where this becomes an even bigger problem is for the platform whose only source of revenue is ads. This is one of the main reasons that TikTok is still not profitable despite being one of the world’s most popular platforms. This video explains TikTok’s monetization crisis and the uncertain future of TikTok.
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  • @aaronj3245
    @aaronj3245 11 місяців тому +784

    wow. this is a really good topic and video. can i ask a small qwestion tho pls? what topics do you cover in this channel?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +194

      Thanks Aaron! I would say mostly trends and stories within tech and social media.

    • @aaronj3245
      @aaronj3245 11 місяців тому +38

      @@LogicallyAnswered oh cool.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +98

      What would you guys describe it as? Please let me know. I’ll cater the content around what you guys wanna see :)

    • @Not_Tails
      @Not_Tails 11 місяців тому +63

      ​@@LogicallyAnsweredthe most based channel ever

    • @aaronj3245
      @aaronj3245 11 місяців тому +28

      @@LogicallyAnswered also i have another qwestion. do you do sponcership? if not why you dont do sponcers?

  • @0SAMUEL
    @0SAMUEL 11 місяців тому +1309

    Salute to the young people that never installed tik tok.

    • @Alex-oq8yg
      @Alex-oq8yg 11 місяців тому +182

      I am addicted to UA-cam, there is no way I’ll install an app which is even more addictive

    • @justwonder1404
      @justwonder1404 11 місяців тому +37

      ​@@Alex-oq8ygthat was my reason not to download it😅

    • @standard-carrier-wo-chan
      @standard-carrier-wo-chan 11 місяців тому +61

      21, and never gonna install tiktok. I just don't see the appeal of short-form content roulette. UA-cam Shorts caters to my niche little interests enough, and mostly I watch long-form essays of obscure topics anyways.

    • @rajeshranjan3199
      @rajeshranjan3199 11 місяців тому +9

      More precisely, salute to Indians.

    • @momoneyinvesting
      @momoneyinvesting 11 місяців тому +2

      had to for my job a few days ago, i knew it was coming but had it not been for that no way in hell I would use it

  • @1Guason3
    @1Guason3 11 місяців тому +304

    I honestly hope it goes under. With all the surveillance and cringe content being fed to children its bad.

    • @marko_1marko
      @marko_1marko 11 місяців тому

      I agree. Those tik tok talentless girl dancers should be paying us for turning kids into idiots

    • @fallenlegend8888
      @fallenlegend8888 10 місяців тому +2

      But you don't have an issue keeping Twitter which is a toxic hellscape

    • @1Guason3
      @1Guason3 10 місяців тому +6

      @fallenlegend8888 Twitter is already dying and it's mostly adults on it. I don't care about it or even use it and never had an account. Same with tiktok.

    • @Middleseed
      @Middleseed 8 місяців тому

      @@fallenlegend8888Twitters, or X, is basically dead. Good ol’ Musk ran it into the ground.

    • @alyasVictorio
      @alyasVictorio 6 місяців тому

      ​@@fallenlegend8888Fortunately, Facebook's social environment is healthier plus it's more than just alternative to Twitter

  • @mytube650
    @mytube650 11 місяців тому +1428

    I am so grateful that I have no idea who any of these creators are.

  • @kayseegrand877
    @kayseegrand877 11 місяців тому +259

    UA-camrs are content creators,whereas tik-tokers are just tik-tok.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +37

      😂 savage

    • @Dakidpepe
      @Dakidpepe 11 місяців тому +9

      UA-camrs are part of the Internet cause Google owns it & tik tokers are just entertainers.

    • @g1kluang
      @g1kluang 11 місяців тому +31

      Actually those tiktokers are just youtube rejects

    • @kayseegrand877
      @kayseegrand877 11 місяців тому +5

      @@LogicallyAnswered nahh, actually you are savage for bringing this topic to light. By the way am a big fan of your channel. Keep up the hard work.

    • @OceleroGamers
      @OceleroGamers 11 місяців тому +8

      Depends, reactors are not creators

  • @alina_banina
    @alina_banina 11 місяців тому +281

    If you don't have the tiktok app, I congratulate you on doing the absolute best thing you ever could for your overall wellbeing.

    • @angelinaoliver5587
      @angelinaoliver5587 11 місяців тому +8

      I’m even more encouraged to stay off that app I’m grateful I’ve never downloaded or created an account on that app😁

    • @juliaju9222
      @juliaju9222 11 місяців тому +3

      Meanwhile in India....

    • @calfagra
      @calfagra 11 місяців тому +5

      I try TikTok and it's just a place for trash content to wasting time. Bad for young kid if left addicted, but it's not as dangerous for mental health compared to Instagram and Twitter who could destroy mental health even for adults.

    • @yaknow5252
      @yaknow5252 10 місяців тому +3

      I sort have it because I really never use it. Maybe 5 mins a week. Time to uninstall it!

    • @animalhouse8849
      @animalhouse8849 10 місяців тому

      I didn't mind the app that much. It seems like it pushes content you actually like way better than youtube shorts does. But once I found out what the app was doing in the background when you're not using it I was done. It's a security nightmare beyond the levels of Facebook and Instagram and it's purposely obfuscated. If you have children I would seriously consider getting that app off of their phones.

  • @bazookaman1353
    @bazookaman1353 11 місяців тому +987

    I mean, it's only expected that tiktok pays way less than UA-cam considering a tiktok videos has way less content.

    • @sergioacevedo2254
      @sergioacevedo2254 11 місяців тому +90

      A single person can spend days, or even weeks editing/researching for a UA-cam video such as this one.

    • @Jeez001
      @Jeez001 11 місяців тому

      TikTok mainly exists for Chinese gov to get penetration into mobile devices used by Americans. So ByteDance doesn’t really need tiktok to make any $$ so it does its best to put very little ads so people won’t leave its platform.

    • @vx8431
      @vx8431 11 місяців тому +40

      UA-cams version of short form content still pays better

    • @bazookaman1353
      @bazookaman1353 11 місяців тому

      @@vx8431 Considering Tiktok consists of thirst traps, slacktivists, "Alpha male guros" and "queers" it's not surprising.

    • @ImARealHumanPerson
      @ImARealHumanPerson 11 місяців тому +3

      It doesn't make any difference when looking at it per capita.

  • @egal1780
    @egal1780 11 місяців тому +296

    Wow, within a year we got from "UA-cam is facing an existential threat by tiktok and could lose all of their Market Share" to this.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +54

      What a change haha

    • @egal1780
      @egal1780 11 місяців тому +35

      @@LogicallyAnswered that's probably why unprofitable tech companies are unsustainable, with a few companies scewing the results. I Wonder If currently AI is facing the Same Euphoria...

    • @Not_Tails
      @Not_Tails 11 місяців тому +18

      ​@@egal1780Adam Conover made an entire video on how AI won't really "dominate the entire world", as some other tech-bros may see it

    • @folddealfeal2740
      @folddealfeal2740 11 місяців тому

      omg i was just thinking this lol

    • @truthdoesnotexist
      @truthdoesnotexist 11 місяців тому +6

      I didn't buy it then I knew tiktok was unsustainable and can't compete with youtube in terms of content and revenue

  • @penprogrammer6271
    @penprogrammer6271 11 місяців тому +1638

    It's actually very fair. Making a decently popular tiktok video is much less effort than making a decently popular youtube video. Getting 1 million views on youtube is astronomically difficult than getting 1 million views on tiktok.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +164

      That’s true :)

    • @NaraSherko
      @NaraSherko 11 місяців тому +14

      @@LogicallyAnswered How about 100k subs

    • @Dakidpepe
      @Dakidpepe 11 місяців тому +32

      It's getting easier to reach a million views nowadays on UA-cam. Cause it's a must have on every phone but tik tok just a trend. It's hot now but it's cooling down & now everyone running back to UA-cam or IG.

    • @xXDaneyDimes42069Xx
      @xXDaneyDimes42069Xx 11 місяців тому +40

      @@Dakidpepe thats very false. Tiktok is not "trend" lots of people watch it. Tiktok has 1.6bil vs. 2.1bil after a basic google search.

    • @RandomPerson-tz7wk
      @RandomPerson-tz7wk 11 місяців тому +51

      @@xXDaneyDimes42069Xx
      Vine and myspace was a trend before they died out. Having large user base does not mean the business will last. Unless they solve the sustainability of payout. The quality of content won't rise because they get paid enough.

  • @WisdomWave25
    @WisdomWave25 11 місяців тому +111

    I still find it hilarious TikTok content for kids in China is restricted to educational content whereas everywhere else just get terrible dances 😂

    • @fallenlegend8888
      @fallenlegend8888 10 місяців тому +2

      You've never actually seen content on Tiktok nowadays have you

    • @macjcb2724
      @macjcb2724 3 місяці тому +1

      @@fallenlegend8888 what are you blabbering about?

  • @picklikeapro6952
    @picklikeapro6952 11 місяців тому +31

    $350k compared to $54 million is staggering. Good for these content creators for being smart and using tik tok how it should be used.

  • @judymyers1934
    @judymyers1934 11 місяців тому +701

    What kind of reality check is in question? Honestly, there is now so many tools which can help you to succeed anywhere and anyhow. If these TikTokers have troubles with their account, I don't know why wouldn't they use Famester then? Or people with brand new accounts who struggle to take their business off, but still decide against using tools like this...

  • @jerrykreutzer4326
    @jerrykreutzer4326 11 місяців тому +76

    This is the main reason why UA-cam ads are so annoying, it's not just corporate greed (although I'm sure there is some of that too), the creators are actually doing extremely well and that's what brings them and keeps them on the platform.

    • @redpillsatori3020
      @redpillsatori3020 11 місяців тому +8

      That's where Brave browser comes in. I never view ads, and I use the Sponsor Block chrome extension too 😈

    • @rockon8174
      @rockon8174 11 місяців тому +1

      UA-cam can run ads And not pay the channel creator.

    • @gigglewumpus
      @gigglewumpus 11 місяців тому +1

      @@redpillsatori3020based sponsor block user

    • @sandz000
      @sandz000 11 місяців тому +1

      revanced users: what an ad???

    • @TinyyTato
      @TinyyTato 11 місяців тому +1

      I use revanced to get away from ads.

  • @GlitchedVision
    @GlitchedVision 11 місяців тому +65

    hot tip: there's no future for short form content unless it's subsidized by long form content, see youtube shorts...

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +5

      Ah true

    • @idontevenhavestuff
      @idontevenhavestuff 11 місяців тому

      There's no future for long form content unless it's subsidized by one of the largest tech companies in the world, see UA-cam's profit losses year after year

    • @captnebulace
      @captnebulace 8 місяців тому

      UA-cam shorts are 100% hot trash

    • @BucketOfFuk
      @BucketOfFuk 9 днів тому

      ​@@captnebulaceProbably because they are reuploaded tiktoks

  • @Epic_C
    @Epic_C 11 місяців тому +58

    I'm just waiting for TikTok to go bust. It'll be better for humanity.

    • @dashmeetsingh9679
      @dashmeetsingh9679 11 місяців тому

      Just wait for some crazy billionare go into mid-life crisis. Over pay to own a platform and be worshipped by simps.

    • @stop08it
      @stop08it 11 місяців тому +7

      Whatever replaces it will probably be even worse and more damaging to society and it’s users. Every popular social media platform that dominates is somehow even more worse than the platform it replaces in prime popularity.

    • @princejavv3314
      @princejavv3314 11 місяців тому +3

      @@stop08it no way buddy we as the people can stop that from happening

    • @fallenlegend8888
      @fallenlegend8888 10 місяців тому

      Better for humanity? Yet you have no issue with the toxic cesspool that is Twitter

  • @sykotes
    @sykotes 11 місяців тому +129

    best case tiktok just stops existing

    • @folddealfeal2740
      @folddealfeal2740 11 місяців тому +8

      i say this too, and then i realize some of my faves on yt would be assed out, with the lack of cringe content

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 11 місяців тому

      I doubt it. China will prop it up just to destroy Western kids.

    • @malakatan3235
      @malakatan3235 11 місяців тому +1

      But...even UA-cam get threaten by it😅so government make a move on TikTok

    • @visionpeer
      @visionpeer 11 місяців тому +1

      UA-cam has shorts, instagram reels it lives on.

    • @Omar-kl3xp
      @Omar-kl3xp 11 місяців тому

      At this point I don’t think it will happens,shorts content will always going to be there ,if you kill TikTok another company will come with the same idea ,Facebook,Instagram ,Snapchat and UA-cam also have shorts videos too

  • @amaamzat9913
    @amaamzat9913 11 місяців тому +8

    “Most of them don’t have any money” I’m crying 🤣

  • @JAYJWONDERKID
    @JAYJWONDERKID 11 місяців тому +16

    If there is nobody that wants to watch the ads, there is no money. Cant believe short-form content has come and gone TWICE in the past decade ALONE. Great video as always!

  • @iamthepope9167
    @iamthepope9167 11 місяців тому +10

    This is really the issue with Al of social media. For the most part it’s all a platform where there is very little to no originality. “Creators” are in actuality just unoriginal “copy cats” that take the work of actually talented and original minds who create something that captivates the world, and the social media gang who can’t come up with original ideas of their own then has a feeding frenzy on each trend to try and duplicate what someone else created. Whether it’s voice overs or remixes or adding dances or filters or rewrites….it’s always simply a form of recycling what someone else created. Nobody on these platforms creates. Nobody does anything unique or original. They’re all just an army of copycats copying the same trends and acting as if they’ve done something unique. How many Pamela Anderson did you see his year. Or Wednesday “dances”. How many times did you hear something containing the words “my money don’t jiggle jiggle”. How many click click boom vids. How many see through skirt bottoms or are you quick enough to pause. Yes I’m including the porno social media copy pasta world too. Only Madonna got famous for being Madonna… but imagine if these uncreative people and technology were around in the 80s how many of them would have done their damndest to ride this coattails. Tik tok… all of it..and those who participate n using these technologies in this way… are as big of clowns as those who support them in the hopes of being seem or acknowledged by these fake famous people.

  • @r.lamont8120
    @r.lamont8120 11 місяців тому +59

    I hope that Tik Tok will be a generational thing and the next generation will move on to something more high content.

    • @MaxvonHapsburg
      @MaxvonHapsburg 11 місяців тому +5

      Wishful thinking. Every generations gets worse. Don't bet on it getting better.

    • @miaya3898
      @miaya3898 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MaxvonHapsburg I'm gen-x and I prefer TikTok

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 11 місяців тому +8

      There will be a new version of it and the cycle will start over again.

    • @r.lamont8120
      @r.lamont8120 11 місяців тому

      @@markm0000 Most likely you are right, I was just hoping.

  • @notani3533
    @notani3533 11 місяців тому +96

    The fact that Tiktok got banned in China makes you wonder why they allowed it to exist in the first place if it didn't make that much of money.

    • @hyoenmadan
      @hyoenmadan 11 місяців тому

      You don't get the picture behind the trees.
      TikTok is the CCP psy0p w44rf4r3 w34pon. That's why you have 2 flavors. The one for the "3nemy" is p01s0ned.
      As long as it keeps its utility, they will back it even if it is burning millions per day.
      Although the same can be said from western platforms to "non aligned" folks.

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 11 місяців тому

      Not banned just the home land version and controlled for what the CCP wants it's people to see.

    • @slowanddeliberate6893
      @slowanddeliberate6893 11 місяців тому +26

      Spyware

    • @twitchew
      @twitchew 11 місяців тому +8

      i mean compared to other propaganda efforts how much does this really cost a country.

    • @hezekiahthompson6817
      @hezekiahthompson6817 11 місяців тому

      China shows concern for it's future workforce, whereas the rest of the world? Screw 'em!

  • @fckingcute
    @fckingcute 11 місяців тому +110

    Tiktok pay is low because the content is considered low quality even though tons of people put work into their tiktok videos. Also, it is a lot easier to get a lot of views on tiktok because you know the video is going to be over in seconds. $540,000 is a lot of money for someone that does TikTok.

    • @giovannidropshipping
      @giovannidropshipping 11 місяців тому +16

      540k for the biggest tiktoker is nothing. Here on youtube the average channel with 1 million subs can make 500k

    • @aBsteezy
      @aBsteezy 11 місяців тому +8

      tons of work lmao

    • @zawarudo1041
      @zawarudo1041 11 місяців тому

      @@giovannidropshipping you are referring to dude thaqt literally says nothing and leeches on others content. He is just weird take on reaction channel. And reaction channels are cancer of any platform. He should be happy he got anything in the first place

    • @giovannidropshipping
      @giovannidropshipping 11 місяців тому +1

      @zawarudo1041 it doesn't matter the way you gained your audience, we can assume other people do valuable content on tiktok, but he is the most successful of all of them and only made 540k, that's why.

  • @jmtradbr
    @jmtradbr 11 місяців тому +53

    trying to survive in any social media by clicks only is asking to starve. the real money is in sponsorships.

    • @CordeliaWagner
      @CordeliaWagner 11 місяців тому +3

      Looking at creators who have over 10.000 patreons who pay between 2,50 $ and 80$....

    • @CordeliaWagner
      @CordeliaWagner 11 місяців тому

      Per month.

  • @daniel4647
    @daniel4647 11 місяців тому +59

    I'm so impressed with how China is actually addressing the issues with social media addiction and content curation. I guess the negative could be that they might censor a little too much? But corporate profits are not more important than the mental health of young people, we should learn that here. And them actually promoting positive content is so nice. Here on YT I can barely get it to show me positive content even when specifically trying to get it to do that. But like every five minutes it's like "hey, maybe you'd like to watch a video on economic collapse? How about some content on the war? Okay, I see you've been watching a lot of meditation videos and Hermitcraft so maybe you're not ready for that yet, but to get you there I got some mild videos with someone complaining about some book they hate for fifty minutes, or a video about how TikTokers are getting slapped in the face, want to watch that? We can move on to the war videos later, I'll keep them here for when you've sunk far enough into despair to welcome that. I'll have this guy posting angry comments again in no time." Thanks YT.

    • @maniswil2
      @maniswil2 11 місяців тому

      They pay billions to create algorithms that are very good at sussing out their customers. If amazon is recommending cold medicine it's not because they want you to have a cold.

    • @PharSyde6ix
      @PharSyde6ix 11 місяців тому

      There's a reason why Tik Tok is banned in China and it's because they do know what it does to the minds of young people. The thing is, China isn't in it for the money, it was done like this on purpose. It's a psychological operation. The best way to take over a country is to dumb down the future generations and feminize or eliminate the male population. China has hated the US at the very least, since the Korean War. Just another one of their campaigns to become the worlds sole super power.

    • @cyborgchimpy
      @cyborgchimpy 11 місяців тому

      you're impressed with that they purposely push garbage onto children in the west?

    • @billmurray1431
      @billmurray1431 11 місяців тому

      Are you part of the CCPs 50 cent army??

    • @pakimo5832
      @pakimo5832 11 місяців тому

      Idk man China loves using social media as a psyop they don't wanna do anything that hinders the full potential of the operation

  • @Howmuchthough
    @Howmuchthough 11 місяців тому +19

    Suprised you didn't mention the 'creativity program'. A new type of monetization option for creators paying them a lot more if their videos are above 1 mins in length (only available in US, France and Brazil atm)

    • @HK47_115
      @HK47_115 11 місяців тому

      It's probably because it's a relatively new thing, and this video is heavily edited so it would have took him awhile to make. By the time he would have heard about this and done any research on this, this video probably would have already been halfway finished. Which mind you all of the recording would have already been done.

    • @augustuslee2719
      @augustuslee2719 11 місяців тому

      I was just thinking that.. I know someone with a tiktok account and with around ~6 million qualified views I got 30k, with $0.77 rpm.

    • @Howmuchthough
      @Howmuchthough 11 місяців тому +1

      @@augustuslee2719 I have just over 160k followers and around 50m total views and have been paid about $700 so far. Wish the creativity program was available in the UK haha

    • @Howmuchthough
      @Howmuchthough 11 місяців тому

      @@HK47_115 Yeah perhaps, is a shame though as it's exactly the type of monetization mentioned in the video, promoting long form content

  • @emmacares426
    @emmacares426 11 місяців тому +5

    I have a close friends whose retention spans is so low due to consuming contents on TikTok everyday, This person finds it hard to watch long form contents, Sometimes when I speak with vast knowledge gotten from UA-cam, They find it hard to understand and The truth is TikTok is harming our generation

  • @jazzarito
    @jazzarito 11 місяців тому +12

    UA-cam forces you to watch at least one ad at the beginning of the video, and then pays another at the end! I can scroll through Tiktok for hours and never get interrupted by an ad. If an ad does pop up, you can just swipe by it.

    • @mindlessducc
      @mindlessducc 11 місяців тому

      yea thats pretty nice for the viewer

    • @chicken29843
      @chicken29843 11 місяців тому +1

      Firefox and ublock. Though Google will probably force them to get rid of adblockers too. Mozilla is funded by donations and most of their funding comes from Google. But pretty much everything else is chromium based

  • @g1kluang
    @g1kluang 11 місяців тому +10

    I really hope these tiktokers face a good reality in life. One of the worst social media app for mental health.

  • @Studeb
    @Studeb 11 місяців тому +16

    Yay, dancing people. Five billion hours of dancing people, I can understand why young people are deserting UA-cam for Tiktok.

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 11 місяців тому +2

      Define young. Millennials still use UA-cam more than Tiktok. It's more a Gen Z thing. I'd take the millennial crowd since they have more money.

    • @Studeb
      @Studeb 11 місяців тому

      @@phoenix5054 Still very strange. When I was their age I was watching The Simpsons and other entertainment, internet wasn't even a thing yet, but I bet if I could have, I would not watch people dancing. I can understand hormones and wanting to bang everything that moves, but how is that accomplished here? :D

  • @tonygee5087
    @tonygee5087 11 місяців тому +26

    You make very good points, but maybe it's possible that TikTok's actual goal in the West isn't making money but rather getting the app on as many phones as possible for other subversive objectives related to China's strategic goals? There is a reason that Tik Tok has been banned on all military employee phones in USA, Australia and others.

  • @me-myself-i787
    @me-myself-i787 11 місяців тому +124

    TikTok should stop trying to compensate creators. Such a measly amount of money provides little incentive to make content.
    TikTok is a platform full of new creators taking advantage of the low barrier to entry to gain large amounts of exposure, before transferring to more profitable platforms to make money. There's no need for additional compensation on top of that. Plus, removing the cash incentive would help return TikTok to its roots and make its content less corporate and professional.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +52

      Ah that is one approach, but then they’d essentially be confirming that TikTok is only for starting a social media presence, not sustaining one

    • @coloradoboy1014
      @coloradoboy1014 11 місяців тому +14

      @@LogicallyAnsweredand they also would get way less people wanting to even start.

    • @2beJT
      @2beJT 11 місяців тому +3

      I doubt tiktok wants to lose people to other platforms if they can avoid it. Unless, do they own another platform?

    • @jolp9799
      @jolp9799 11 місяців тому +8

      to be honest this small amount could make a huge difference to a creator from the third world, so I don't think they should scrap the idea of paying all together

    • @riteshgupta4002
      @riteshgupta4002 11 місяців тому

      @@jolp9799 idk about tiktok but youtube pays depending on countries. UA-camrs from India for example earn like 1/20th to 1/100th per 1000 views. I am guessing that would be for tiktok as well. So imagine even a fraction of already small amount

  • @euphoricmonk
    @euphoricmonk 11 місяців тому +3

    TicTok is like Junk food, after a while you get sick from low quality and lack of substance.

  • @miketran4289
    @miketran4289 11 місяців тому +47

    Tictok needs to go back to it's original design goals, Helping people win a Darwin Award with it's trends. We need to weed out the non fit people.

    • @fallenlegend8888
      @fallenlegend8888 10 місяців тому +1

      Alot of you say all this about tiktok but have no problem keeping Twitter or even 4chan makes no sense to me

  • @LiveType
    @LiveType 11 місяців тому +21

    A view on tiktok is ultimately worth WAY less than a view on youtube and a view on youtube is worth WAY less than a view on twitch.
    Different scales of attention.

    • @TxcGren
      @TxcGren 11 місяців тому +7

      and a view on twitch is worth WAY less than a view on kick. theres always a bigger fish

    • @BeingForeverBroken
      @BeingForeverBroken 11 місяців тому

      Twitch pays more than YT?
      I thought Kick was a messaging app.. didn't even know they did paid videos.. or that they somehow pay more than Twitch and YT

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 11 місяців тому

      Kick the next mixer😂

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 11 місяців тому

      except twitch sucks
      youtube has a near monopoly for long video and streaming format- rumble exists but it's eh UI sucks

  • @sawoop3856
    @sawoop3856 11 місяців тому +14

    Is it okay that I don't care that creators aren't making money on Tik Tok?

    • @frozencatcake
      @frozencatcake 11 місяців тому

      most tiktokers are just porn

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu 11 місяців тому

      as one of them yeah tottally fine
      only creat something you passionate about and want people to talk about it/bring light to
      like how our schools are literally enabling pedos lately

    • @Mr_Careo
      @Mr_Careo 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah 😂

  • @Ibhenriksen
    @Ibhenriksen 11 місяців тому +7

    Sometimes you'll go grab a drink and the tik tok video played over 50 times in a loop. That's where all of those views come from.

  • @BriefNerdOriginal
    @BriefNerdOriginal 11 місяців тому +44

    Ads are not the only revenues for UA-cam. Premium accounts, and supporting creators also get UA-cam paid. Of course it's not as much as advertising, but they're trying to diversify, which is good.

  • @Astroqualia
    @Astroqualia 11 місяців тому +4

    No one goes onto tiktok to make money. They do it to foster a large audience then transfer them to another streaming platform.
    Edit: you literally said it like 1 minute after i did. LOL

  • @blindsniper35
    @blindsniper35 11 місяців тому +2

    That world's most popular domain is very misleading. The reason it's the world's most popular domain is it their application makes so many duplicate and ******* unnecessary DNS requests.
    It turns out when you adjust for the amount of useless chatter their applications create they're far lower than that. I don't remember what but I don't think they're in the top 10 anymore.
    It's like if a bank made a way to transfer money between users. It wasn't built very well so it withdrew and deposited money multiple times for one transfer. Somebody notices that they have the most number of deposits that year. Technically yeah they do, But most of that's just because they're creating a bunch of unnecessary transactions.

  • @hanneskannes
    @hanneskannes 11 місяців тому +2

    Another problem is nobody even remembers the last 3 videos they watched. why would you advertise on tiktok if nobody remembers your ad anyways?

  • @ivanporsche2572
    @ivanporsche2572 11 місяців тому +9

    Hey Hari, I’ve been a pretty long time follower of the channel and love the content. However, I wanted to mention that this video may have too many sweeps and transitions. A particularly bad instance was around 2:18 (the beginning of “hesitant advertisers”). I really hope you don’t take this as hate, because I really love the channel, I just found that a little nauseating. Anyways, keep up the excellent work!

    • @folddealfeal2740
      @folddealfeal2740 11 місяців тому +3

      im screaming, me too, i had to click to another tab because i was getting so dizzy

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +8

      Really appreciate the honest constructive feedback man! I was thinking about showing my face and pulling back on the stock footage and motion graphics. How would you feel about that?

    • @2882a
      @2882a 11 місяців тому

      ​@@LogicallyAnswered just stick to faceless, it's fine, and it makes your channel some sort of a brand. And also UA-camrs who were faceless but then revealed their faces often die of irrelevancy *cough* Dream *cough*

    • @bc-guy852
      @bc-guy852 11 місяців тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered I'm a new viewer and I nearly bailed on finishing this for the exact same reasons. I did not post earlier also for the same reason; I didn't want a negative comment to by the first you'd hear from me - but VERY annoying. Appear in front - or remain discrete - to me, it's the content; I'm interested in the topic, not the flash.

    • @ivanporsche2572
      @ivanporsche2572 11 місяців тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered Hey, sorry for the delayed response. Not sure if that’s the solution, as a previous user mentioned; I also kind of feel like it’s part of your brand to not show your face and instead use stock footage and relevant graphics/images. Of course, that’s not to say I don’t want to see your face, but i feel like it might be too late. Like, if HalfAsInteresting or HowMoneyWorks started showing their faces, I feel like it would be a little weird. I just think that the transitions here were a bit much, because it’s never stood out to me in other videos.

  • @darthfox45
    @darthfox45 11 місяців тому +34

    Hey, did I have any effect on this? Maybe this was in the pipeline for a while. Either way, I love seeing TikTok being exposed!

  • @olivernordin
    @olivernordin 11 місяців тому +1

    1. Why compare TikTok to UA-cam Longs and not UA-cam Shorts?
    2. Why include a graph saying 0% of the audience on UA-cam is under 18 when you know it's over 50%?
    3. You say Douyin isn't as popular as TikTok when they have 700 million active users. Douyin is only available in China with a population of 1.4 billion which means 50% of the population is active users. Way higher than TikTok.
    4. You should mention that TikTok is only monetized in 6 countries
    5. You are saying that TikTok has edgy content but their guidelines are much stricter than UA-cam and Instagram. I've had 100+ videos deleted on TikTok and 1 on Instagram and UA-cam.

  • @Diggy22
    @Diggy22 11 місяців тому +1

    Funny thing is, there was an article posted on Facebook talking about TikTok not going anywhere. I brought up Vine, and the comments section came at me with insults and pitchforks. Sometimes, nobody else wants to see the writing on the wall, even when it's history repeating itself.

  • @StarlightLancer01
    @StarlightLancer01 11 місяців тому +3

    The most annoying part about Tiktok to me was that people made money by doing absolutely nothing of worth. UA-camrs like yourself and others put infinitely more effort to making a quality video only for it to get, if fortunate enough, a million views.

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905
    @zaidlacksalastname4905 11 місяців тому +26

    I love this channel. You're clearly passionate about educating people on tech.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +2

      Really appreciate your support Zaid!

    • @jellytwins1018
      @jellytwins1018 11 місяців тому

      yet half of the things he said are just wrong.

    • @itsoktonotbeok.
      @itsoktonotbeok. 11 місяців тому

      @@jellytwins1018fr 😭

    • @ferro9929
      @ferro9929 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jellytwins1018 like?

  • @tehcowgoesquack
    @tehcowgoesquack 8 місяців тому +2

    The second he started listing off famous tiktokers, my legit reaction was: “who?”

  • @TheBlackScatPack
    @TheBlackScatPack 11 місяців тому +2

    Being on TikTok can be overwhelming. I eventually went away because it can be overwhelming because of the mindless strolling when I thought about it and seeing basically the same thing over and over just wears on you. It’s definitely easier to build an audience on TikTok tho.

  • @MobileGamingLegendz
    @MobileGamingLegendz 11 місяців тому +5

    totally true. Had a run a few months back where the channel was getting 7-10 million views a week. At most I was making 15 bucks a day. TikTok is brutal. It is best used as a funnel. Funnel your viewers from tiktok to other platforms where the monetization is better.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 11 місяців тому +14

    Can you cover that Reddit strike that they’re currently doing?? I didn’t get it at all and they’re still doing it for some reason! Thanks!!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +2

      Hmmm… I thought about making a video on it but figured it was already covered a lot. Maybe I will :)

    • @me-myself-i787
      @me-myself-i787 11 місяців тому +3

      Reddit started charging ludicrous amounts of money for the API which third-party Reddit apps used, so third-party Reddit apps such as _Apollo_ and _Infinity for Reddit_ stopped working.
      Reddit moderators responded by making their communities private until Reddit lowers the rates for the API.

    • @orkhepaj
      @orkhepaj 11 місяців тому +6

      @@me-myself-i787 reddit mods are garbage people

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 11 місяців тому

      Are mostly chronic online people that cares about it.
      Reddit raised api prices, mods got angry faked a blackout,Reddit own.
      Mods power tripping people and unpaid workers for mega corporations.
      At least is what I understood because I don’t care

  • @originsdecoded3508
    @originsdecoded3508 11 місяців тому

    AT same time, what makes TikTok weaker in revenue and advertisement partnerships apportunity is also what gives it its strength when it comes to less censorship. UA-cam in the beginning was less restrictive and had less censorship. As more and more advertisers from many companies began to make deals with youtube partnership, the more demands, restrictions, and policies were enforced due to this new partnership revenue deals, which forced youtube to become more "advertisement friendly", becoming more censored, more restrictive and more rigid with their user policies. Tiktok lacking this, thus means that it has not been subjected to advertisement friendly policies and restrictions as much as other platforms such as youtube and or IG.

  • @puffballs2404
    @puffballs2404 10 місяців тому +1

    This is why our tiktok campaigns only run for a short period and we focus more on YT. We even stopped doing IG promotions (we used to do it for years)

  • @forty27
    @forty27 11 місяців тому +4

    I got dizzy because of your new montage style with huge animated words in front of the blurred stock footage. Not to mention the extremely intense music.
    The old style with less words on screen was much more relaxing and pleasant to watch.

  • @czarcoma
    @czarcoma 11 місяців тому +5

    I agree. TikTok is a shitty way to earn.

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 11 місяців тому

      it's a shitty app overall.

  • @boxypunkchick3357
    @boxypunkchick3357 11 місяців тому

    Question, you say you add an ad every 3 minutes. What about Premium viewers? Since they don't get ads, does revenue still get paid for the viewers?

  • @pjpleiss
    @pjpleiss 11 місяців тому +1

    During KallMeKris' collaboration with Linus Tech Tips, I think she told Linus that Canadian TikTok doesn't have a creator fund. She said something along the lines of "it doesn't pay. In Canada, I don't make a dime unless I do a brand deal"

  • @MetaverseAdventures
    @MetaverseAdventures 11 місяців тому +3

    I think the real story here is that advertisers are calling the shots on content allowed essentially or at least rewarding content they deem as “appropriate”. I would not think twice if an Apple ad came up after something sexy, or controversial, I mean it already does as we all have our own values and thus surely ads come on at some inappropriate times for you even if not deemed so by others. Advertisers have way too much control and we are not even talking about it. This is the real story.

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 11 місяців тому

      Why not? They are the ones spending the money to maintain the platform. Unless of course if you use UA-cam Premium.

    • @MetaverseAdventures
      @MetaverseAdventures 11 місяців тому +1

      ​ @Phoenix I am not so sure that is true. How many minutes of watch time do all the millions of small channels get versus the big names? I did a quick search and could not find the answer but there are a lot of UA-camrs and I think everyone has a few big names and many smaller ones on their subscribed list. UA-cam does not even pay most of the smaller ones as they fail to meet the monetization requirements. We may never know, but I would take a guess that smaller, unpaid watchtime minutes is where UA-cam is really making their money. What do you think or even better, have some stats to help get the details here.

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 11 місяців тому

      @@MetaverseAdventures Your brain isn't a coherent space, no? First, you talk about advertisers. Now, you talk about big vs. small creators.

  •  11 місяців тому +4

    Brands just need to get comfortable with the idea of showing their content after a good a**.

  • @tanishqsagar3440
    @tanishqsagar3440 11 місяців тому

    Hey, does anyone know what LA was saying at 3:59?

  • @BNgema
    @BNgema 11 місяців тому +1

    Tiktok needs to open the tiktok business option to more countries , here in south africa you have to jump through hoops and loops to advertise on tiktok. Its mostly big corporations that have access to advertising on tiktok.

  • @adamwest3637
    @adamwest3637 11 місяців тому +3

    From what I learned in this video I think tiktok should introduce some new rules and attract new advertisers. Tiktok is well established so people aren’t going to leave it, even if they gotta turn down their antics.

  • @aaronaustrie
    @aaronaustrie 11 місяців тому +16

    Tiktok is garbage 🚮

  • @DanielBro42
    @DanielBro42 11 місяців тому

    youre videos are next level brother, you got so good lately
    thanks for quality content
    quick question: where do you get your footage from? your editing is TOP on yt

  • @mad-cyantist3159
    @mad-cyantist3159 11 місяців тому +1

    On Instagram i see an ad on story mode after every 2-3 Users. REALLY ANNOYING

  • @Mightydoggo
    @Mightydoggo 11 місяців тому +4

    Long form content will always be better than shorts. Even the worst long form content, which probably is unoptimized commentary content, can go on for half an hour, an hour, etc. and people will listen to it while doing whatever. You just can´t do this with shorts.
    Now if you think about long form evergreen content... This is the stuff 5000k subs Channels make a literal living with. It´s insane. Which other platform would that be possible on?

  • @soutakanaka463
    @soutakanaka463 11 місяців тому +5

    Super excited that TikTok has a possibility to shut down!

  • @loveandparty4118
    @loveandparty4118 11 місяців тому

    Well every popular website goes down eventually. Nowadays there's less longevity of websites since every company is now budget-cutting their advertising and cutting fat out, while back in the day even an unpopular blog would get a sizable amount of money.

  • @HolyXerxes
    @HolyXerxes 11 місяців тому +2

    For content that only 30sec or less, expecting to get more is really a First World Problem.

  • @alexanderchua
    @alexanderchua 11 місяців тому +5

    I was asked by a potential client about making tiktok videos to advertise their brand and I told them that tiktok viewers are kids and no spending power. He scoffed me off.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 11 місяців тому +10

    It was a nice little run!!! But nothing long term over there!! Remember Vine guys???

    • @cybersecurity3905
      @cybersecurity3905 11 місяців тому +1

      It could be a full downfall or just a 'B' wave in an overall ABC wave system. 'A' wave was it's initial rise, 'B' wave is going to be this correction and 'C' wave is going to mark it's peak of popularity after the 'B' wave ends.

  • @videowarehouse
    @videowarehouse 11 місяців тому +2

    You completely skipped the main source of revenue for TikTok, which is gifts given to creators in live streams. They make 50-70% on these gifts depending on the country, and the gifts are worth tens of millions of dollars per day. The hype train and excitement is definitely in this area, and is why they don't bother with monetizing the videos.

  • @WeirdRaichu
    @WeirdRaichu 11 місяців тому

    Hello! What did you use to edit this? The tik tok logo appearing in like that at 0:25 is so cool

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +1

      After effects and premiere pro

    • @WeirdRaichu
      @WeirdRaichu 11 місяців тому

      @Logically Answered somekind of template? Or you made the brush strokes yourself

    • @WeirdRaichu
      @WeirdRaichu 11 місяців тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered please can you tell me the template used? I've been looking for it

  • @ethanpowell3203
    @ethanpowell3203 11 місяців тому +8

    I’ve never been on TikTok and I honestly can’t wait for them to sink. Short form content is wreaking havoc on our attention spans.

  • @mr.6889
    @mr.6889 11 місяців тому +5

    please make a video on the kick platform, as recently xQc exclusively signed a $100M deal with that platform!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the suggestion Mr. Sam

    • @mr.6889
      @mr.6889 11 місяців тому

      @@weird-guy yes but if twitch kept changing their content policy it will be easy for these platforms to acquire more users!

  • @CondonErebus
    @CondonErebus 11 місяців тому +1

    Honestly i very rarely very thirsttraps or "edgey" content. So i never see why my favorite creators get so little money.
    But this video does put things into perspective

  • @daemonsilverstein8633
    @daemonsilverstein8633 11 місяців тому

    Some perspectives:
    - Demographics is not really a issue regarding advertisement. If so, there would be no TV ads for infant (generally related to cartoons), kids (idem, and also more elaborated toys such as Barbie dolls and Hot Wheels car toys), and teens. UA-cam has a setting for classifying the video, also, UA-cam shows ads based on the unique preferences and characteristics of the watcher. This is not something that only YT can do.
    - A big brand wouldn't want to see their ads before/during/after a "edgy" woman, however, ads is also about psychological techniques, as the mind is enormously responsible for the absorption of the ad. One of the main characteristics of the brain is that we tend to memorize things easier if there's some kind of emotion or sensation associated with it. In this way, as the "edgy" scene provokes a "sensation", the ad could take advantage of that to better improve how their ad would be easily remembered.

  • @mraritrasaha
    @mraritrasaha 11 місяців тому +2

    Most of the Tiktok is cringe. Now the tiktoker are flooding yt short with the same cringe content.

  • @ritik0691
    @ritik0691 11 місяців тому +33

    Good to see things are going as they should be , Btw as always love your content bro 😊

  • @benjaminfriedman9107
    @benjaminfriedman9107 11 місяців тому +2

    Can we add that tik tok is also likely to be banned from the US and other countries for security reasons

  • @Crush0819
    @Crush0819 11 місяців тому

    Watching this all unfold is the scariest part .

  • @angelenriquechavezponce1629
    @angelenriquechavezponce1629 11 місяців тому +3

    Dude not to be harsh but the editing is quite heavy on this one, can you make it a little less shaky overall. You're on UA-cam not TikTok bro. The audience attention span it's not that short.

  • @originaozz
    @originaozz 11 місяців тому +3

    As an ex-TikTok employee in Asia literally tasked to make it marketable to top brands, your take is right for Western market standard. In terms of the impact towards the creators, it's quite true. But in terms of advertisers and market viability, Asian audience are mostly less concern about privacy issues and more entertainment focus. We also have higher trust on creators in general (including shady ones) and LIVE selling is a big thing in the market. Not saying any of this is a good thing, but they sure can make profit, just not from the expected source like big corporations and ads, but SMB and TikTok shop.

    • @jerielsanchez
      @jerielsanchez 11 місяців тому +1

      Hi, I’m a UI/UX designer struggling to break through with my first job. Marketing is something that has always interested me, and I wanted to know, how did you approach your marketing career? Do you have formal education, some certificates a bootcamp, and what do you recommend for someone starting out from 0?

  • @kekuleh1
    @kekuleh1 11 місяців тому +1

    UA-cam has more views retention probably because users have to search or select the videos they want to watch, they are intentional. Compared to random short videos on tiktok, more likely to be swiped away.

  • @urilgal
    @urilgal 10 місяців тому +1

    1:51 Kallmekris being Canadian doesn't have access to the creator fund. Unless it has changed, she did 0$

  • @Finalizor
    @Finalizor 11 місяців тому +3

    tik tok goes the clock till time runs out lol

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +1

      Tik tok indeed hahaha

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 11 місяців тому

      Until bytedance gets tired of loosing money trying to turn the shit around.

  • @VibronicCow
    @VibronicCow 11 місяців тому +3

    Hari I always watch your vids full length. Dunno who these 7 min scammers are but u do u bb much luv

  • @arthurcabello7709
    @arthurcabello7709 11 місяців тому

    The better question would be what is the bg piece of this video? Pleaseeeeee

  • @spectre1725
    @spectre1725 6 місяців тому

    Because the industry is finally grasping that influencers and tiktokers are overrated for marketing and it's highly risky to attach your brandname to some random person, you have no control of.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 11 місяців тому +12

    Great video brother!!! Another new topic that I’m glad you touched on!!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому

      Thank you Daniel! It’s really a mess out there on tiktok

  • @erikmoreno9259
    @erikmoreno9259 11 місяців тому +5

    i tend to live by that motto of "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it", but i'm sorry man i feel like you're smart enough to appreciate honest feedback. i like watching youtube, but these edits make me wanna just listen. i don't mind listening to your stuff, but i also like watching my favorite creators. all that flashy editing really drove me nuts. it's actually the biggest reason i only listen to similar channels to yours. yours is actually the only one i still watch. dunno if that won't change haha. i still love your videos dude. keep it up!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 місяців тому +3

      Really appreciate the constructive feedback Erik. I’m thinking of showing my face for some of the video and pulling back on the stock footage and motion graphics. Would that be better?

    • @Chris-ki2dx
      @Chris-ki2dx 11 місяців тому +1

      @@LogicallyAnswered For people like us, yeah probably, but we might still be the minority honestly, lol. Lot of people do seem to have the monkey brains that needs to be stimulated by flashy stuff every 2 seconds, so there's that haha.

    • @gordo3582
      @gordo3582 11 місяців тому +1

      Yea you don't get a bigger audience with a boring vid of a guy just talking, people that just want to listen can do so, no problem to solve.

    • @erikmoreno9259
      @erikmoreno9259 11 місяців тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered yessir that'd be much better! I definitely appreciate channels that use that format a lot too. City nerd, city beautiful, the B1M and some others are a few that I also really like. I also think that it's the fact that you and someone like Economics Explained use the same stock footage over and over that drives me nuts. I understand why you guys might do that of course.

  • @aleccino
    @aleccino 15 днів тому

    TikTok going under would be far from the worst thing in the world.

  • @jamesboone14
    @jamesboone14 5 місяців тому

    never heard of any of those people....I also dont have tiktok installed....

  • @_Vancelvany_
    @_Vancelvany_ 11 місяців тому +5

    TikTok suffers the same symptoms as Vine on the short form content
    views for short attention span for a short life span on the social media space
    for both its content creators & the platform itself
    just a matter of time for TikTok to decay
    Google's YT structure is sustainable for all

  • @eamparbeng
    @eamparbeng 11 місяців тому +5

    This was some high quality youtube content that's worth watching through and clicking the like button. Why? cuz you in a way explained how humans think

  • @giftofspeech
    @giftofspeech 11 місяців тому +2

    I have been thinking of jumping on the content creation bandwagon. Seems like I won't be focusing on UA-cam or Facebook. Is Instagram still popping?
    Pinterest looks like a horror show to me. I don't know how they keep everything in order. I seen the same cake being pinned a million times. Pinterest needs a better way of organizing their platform. It's a mess.

  • @bellenvideo5629
    @bellenvideo5629 11 місяців тому

    The adds for TikTok on UA-cam are quite interesting and aggressive 👏 nice to see you covering this topic

  • @thevillager8339
    @thevillager8339 11 місяців тому +3

    UA-cam algorithm seems to be working today. I always get these videos recommended within at max an hour.

  • @johnnysilverhand3466
    @johnnysilverhand3466 11 місяців тому +6

    Tiktok is cringe 😬

  • @BethePandaGames
    @BethePandaGames 11 місяців тому

    was taking a shot everytime he said TikTok in this video... I am halfwai an 1 bottle down 🤣

  • @sunnyschramm9650
    @sunnyschramm9650 3 місяці тому +1

    NOPE - the biggest streamers themselve will tell you twitch, youtube, etc. is NOTHING against what they earn from tiktok.