This is way too low, I’ve been lifting (and actually knowing what I’m doing cuz I did it before to no benefit) for about one year and can easily be halfway between intermediate and advanced on bench and squat and above advanced on deadlift and I’m only 18 now and also balance lifting with cross country. I don’t have like super genetics or anything as many people my age can do the same in my area
I think these standards are a bit too low. I have advocated for a few years now, that these ranges need to change. Take "Elite" powerlifting numbers, from TESTED federations, and work your way down. In our particular case, a 319 bench in the 163lbs weight class doesn't even qualify you for a PL meet, so how is that "elite"? I think true "elite" for our weight class is closer to 4/5/6 plates for SBD at this point in time (who knows how far it will go in the future). There is no way I should be "elite" on bench after training less than 2 years @45 yrs old. And speaking of that... I think timeframes are a bit off too. Assuming dedication and decent programming, if you use these standards, I've kinda shown its sooner than you think, but you seriously have to train 5 days a week and don't miss (unless its a scheduled deload week). There is no way I was an "intermediate" the moment my back hit the bench (185lbs bench) in 2023, and even now knocking on a 2x bench still less than 2 years in, there is no way I'm elite. I'd say I'm mid-tier or high advanced.
You raise some great points. I will say in my experience working with the general public. Those who just start out lifting, I feel these numbers are in some cases to high. But there's a difference from a 35 or 40 year old who hasn't done anything for 10 or 15 years. Idk... problem a good idea we don't put to much stock in these numbers. I need to take a deep look at lifting levels for competitive lifting and these charts. Appreciate the comment!
No... when talking the "Big Three", height really only plays a factor on one of them and almost the opposite in the other. I.E. The 6FT should have a higher Dead, and the 5'8 should have a better bench.
@@LRandleIcon true, I always thought the short people were stronger pound for pound on 90% of lifts just because of the length of their limbs loll. Thanks for the response.
there is a difference between strong as you should be and strong as you COULD be.
Thank you
Your welcome
This is way too low, I’ve been lifting (and actually knowing what I’m doing cuz I did it before to no benefit) for about one year and can easily be halfway between intermediate and advanced on bench and squat and above advanced on deadlift and I’m only 18 now and also balance lifting with cross country. I don’t have like super genetics or anything as many people my age can do the same in my area
Nice to hear. Some people definitely have an easier time at lifting. Keep pushing to elite!
@@ScienceBasedFitness maybe it’s just the genetics are higher in the area I grow up in 😂
I think these standards are a bit too low. I have advocated for a few years now, that these ranges need to change. Take "Elite" powerlifting numbers, from TESTED federations, and work your way down. In our particular case, a 319 bench in the 163lbs weight class doesn't even qualify you for a PL meet, so how is that "elite"? I think true "elite" for our weight class is closer to 4/5/6 plates for SBD at this point in time (who knows how far it will go in the future). There is no way I should be "elite" on bench after training less than 2 years @45 yrs old. And speaking of that... I think timeframes are a bit off too. Assuming dedication and decent programming, if you use these standards, I've kinda shown its sooner than you think, but you seriously have to train 5 days a week and don't miss (unless its a scheduled deload week). There is no way I was an "intermediate" the moment my back hit the bench (185lbs bench) in 2023, and even now knocking on a 2x bench still less than 2 years in, there is no way I'm elite. I'd say I'm mid-tier or high advanced.
You raise some great points. I will say in my experience working with the general public. Those who just start out lifting, I feel these numbers are in some cases to high. But there's a difference from a 35 or 40 year old who hasn't done anything for 10 or 15 years. Idk... problem a good idea we don't put to much stock in these numbers. I need to take a deep look at lifting levels for competitive lifting and these charts. Appreciate the comment!
shouldnt height be incorporated too??
6ft strength at 170lb is much different that 5ft8" strength at 170lb
Yes, i do wish this incorporated height but unfortunately it does not..
No... when talking the "Big Three", height really only plays a factor on one of them and almost the opposite in the other. I.E. The 6FT should have a higher Dead, and the 5'8 should have a better bench.
@@LRandleIcon true, I always thought the short people were stronger pound for pound on 90% of lifts just because of the length of their limbs loll.
Thanks for the response.