Perfect Amiga 4000 for a Steal! My Amiga 4000 Upgrade Journey!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- In this video I will take you on a journey to upgrade this Amiga from arriving not working to perfect.
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Sweet buy, patience eventually rewards a person.
Great video, congratulations on scoring such a nice machine.
Congratulations. Cool video. Never having owned an Amiga before, I am building a brand new A4000D. Brand new ACILL 4000 board, matching daughterboard, BFG9060, ReA4091, ZZ9000, brand new case, and waiting on CNC Aluminum fron bezel/fascia!
Would you like to share the process on video? Let me know. That sounds extremely cool!
Nice purchase!
Some comments.-
1). These Big-Box Amigas when shipped tend to shift their inner contents while traveling, so rule of thumb is to check everything is properly connected once you receive the package, but before powering on. So it’s typical to find the processor card not properly connected, and even out of its seating slot.
2). You said that you are “not needing the memory sticks”, actually you do need them. FastRAM on the motherboard SIMM sockets is way faster than the Zorro memory you purchased which is slow. Zorro III RAM is nice to see but slow to access (that’s why Amiga Test Kit took quite some time to test it).
The best way to use the A4000 is by getting an accelerator board with built-in Fast RAM and you resort to the onboard SIMM FastRAM as secondary. That way you avoid performance hits and bottlenecks on the system, and your 128 MB Zorro III FastRAM as I said earlier is nice to see, but not really that useful (because of the performance penalties you incur in).
About the CD-ROM audio, the CD audio output needs to be amplified; if you crank up all the volume you’ll actually hear faintly the CD audio which is greatly attenuated when mixed to the actual Paula audio output using that 3 pin connector on the motherboard. I faced the same issue too. Hope it helps. 🙂
I was forgetting. For video you can save some pennies and buy a ZZ9000 RTG video card. It delivers native HDMI output with modern video modes, native resolutions pass-through, deinterlacing and up scaling them, USB mass storage, and adds up to 256
MB of Zorro III Fast RAM too.
Again, great purchase, congrats on that, and hope it helps. 🙂👋🏼
Nice Wolfgang....well done
Used to dream of having one of these!
Congratulations! What a GREAT looking machine and an amazing price! GREAT video TY
Recently a block of six E&L "The Fox" MT-80Z trainers came up for auction with a starting bid of $60 USD. I notified everyone that I could think who would like one of them (as for myself, I have three of them, the third being purchased for the books that came along with it. So I wasn't going to bid on any of them). One friend bit, and he got his for (IIRC) $86 USD. While all of mine were notrh of $250 USD. So yeah, if you are a seller, spread your sales out a bit.
I got both of my A4000s for somewhere around $600 USD each. But this was sometime around 2012.
Nice snag, beautiful machine!
what is a fox mt-80z trainer?
@@drphilxr It's a slightly modified MPF-I "The Professor" trainer that has been put in a much bigger and much more durable box alongside a second trainer board (you actually get two trainers - kinda) that sits to the left of the MPF-I. The early MT-80Zs didn't even bother to hide the fact. Later on the markings were removed. And later still, the 'AZ' version came out and replaced the two boards with a single big board.
You can see (one of my hands) and hear me describe my MT-80Z over on Michael Wessel's channel. I built one of his PicoRAM 6116 boards that take the place of the RAM chip.
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600 was a good price back then. I Dan Woods 4000 videos and he got his for 350£ 8?years ago and said it was a good deal.
@@RetroWK I thought so, but mine was not as nice as yours. On the other hand, shipping was free since he was about 100 km from me and I simply drove to his place and picked it up.
Hallo, ich habe einen der anderen für 890€ geschossen. Hat mir auch kostenlos SIM Sockel beigelegt. Bei mir waren 2 defekt. Super Typ !! Man kann auch mal Glück haben 😊
Stimmt! Sehr fair!
Bist ein echter Glückspilz. So einen Rechner für das Geld werde ich nie finden.... ich habe meinen 4000 030 defekt in den späten 90ern verschenkt, nur das Gehäuse mit innenleben, die Tastatur habe ich noch... heute ärgere ich mich....
@@hollgo626 Habe aucg Jahre auf so einen Deal gewartet. Ich gucke aber auch jeden Tag auf eBay nach solchen Sachen. Kostet eine Menge Zeit.
Sweet! That’s a nice big box machine. I never see an Amiga 4000 before. I think Germany held on to the amigas a bit longer than here in NL, where by 1991 people basically just bought PCs. Even at ESCOM, you wouldn’t see Amigas anymore by 1992/1993.
Great marketing advise on bulk sales. Never thought about it but it makes sense.
That is npt true. I could have bought an Amiga 1200 for 899 DM in 1996 frpm Escom and an Amiga 4000 040 for 3000 DM in 1996 from Escom. They even hat the ominous A4000 Tower variant which was used to be the only novelty Escom brought in the the short period of time when they had bought Commodore and not have gone bankrupt...
@@hollgo626 in Germany yes, here in NL they weren’t in the store. Im sure you could order one, but they weren’t on display and I know nobody who bought an Amiga in my friends circle after 1992.
I recall watching a Computer Club episode where they had that ESCOM Amiga 4000 tower. And I went over to ESCOM to see it for real and it just wasn’t there. Or any Amiga for that matter. Those ugly cheap 386/486 mini towers from Escom were there all over the place. And they sold very well.
@@hollgo626 You couldn’t find them here in the ESCOM stores on display. I’m sure you could order them. But hardly anybody did, nobody in my friends circle that were outspoken Amiga users went for the 3000/4000. That’s probably also why a 4000 would go for 3500/4000 euros here in the Netherlands. I saw an Amiga 4000 big tower on ZDF ComputerClub and so I went to Escom to see one in person and compare it to a 486. It simply wasn’t there. I tried another store, also not a single Amiga to be found.
@@hollgo626a friend of mine bought the A4000 desktop, he paid 4000 DM at Hirsch & Wolf in Neuwied, of course he got it from Elvis Stegman personally.
You should be able to let the GBS-C scan-double and flicker-fix PAL Hires Interlace on your VGA monitor instead of using Double PAL. This will give you back 2x bandwith and be abke to run a 128 color Workbench. 256 color is probably still a little sluggish but it isn't intolerable, just that 128 is the sweet spot.
Mein Scandy sieht genauso aus, ist aber nur ein Scandoubler und auf J1 ist ein Jumper gesetzt.
That price! 🤯
Didnt see if you used it but there is a small square hole on the front metal plate that the power and HD LED connectors just fit through so you dont need to squeeze them through the drive cage. Nice pick up though.
Thanks! I saw that later … ;-)
Im happy for you - and all other *very lucky* A4000 owners, but am bitter in not having jumped at A4K's in the past, since they are near impossible to find now ,and when you do- all $2500 USD plus with many many buyers jumping at the chance. You would think someone smart could design a new A4K with slots and similar sized case, even running FPGA emulation, considering what a labor of love, sweat, money, tears it is to build your own!
Thanks! … and sorry! The closest you get is the Checkmate case. These are great. Not quite the 4000 though. If you build a replica board that sets you back at least 1000 bucks.
@@RetroWK haha and if someone else builds a replica board (like the German reAmiga 4K on ebay now) its 2000! The checkmates are cases - but not riser boards with slots- and those aren't really made anymore!)
The sad thing is that you have no use of an Amiga 4000. What do you use it for? A big brick is what it is.
Don't get me wrong here, but my first computer was a Commodore 64 and then an Amiga and i really loved my Amiga, but today they are useless.
You can easy emulate an Amiga in a PC.
For me it‘s more about owning this than using this. It‘s like a piece of art and it has a lot of emotions attached to it. Emulation can give you the function but it can not give you the sense of ownership or the emotion that you feel when you can see and touch the machine.