Huge dilemma for the bike industry and all industries really. How to stand out but not go to the bizarre extreme of the spectrum and alienate the sensibilities of the consumer. Specialized has a track record of f-ing up. Take the Roubaix SL3 in 2012 that Cancella won the Paris Roubaix on. One of the greatest bikes of all time and a bike I own with BSA bottom bracket and rim brakes and friendly geometry. Very compliant but plenty stiff for average rider. Specialized tarted up the new Roubaix which is heavier...and has a future shock which the company hopes will fail at some point so the consumer will have buy 'twice'. Profit. Now disc brake only. Look what Specialized did with their new Diverge. With disc brake only, do you really need a Diverge and Roubaix? Of course not. They ruined it with goofy cable like contraption exiting the top tube. Riders hate the bobbing quality of this bike if the rider is stronger in particular with greater pedal forces. Aesthetically its horrid. An albatross. And yes of course you are right about the SL8. Specialized will try to tout this ugly change as function and more aero but won't matter at all. There has been aero testing on different bikes including comparing the round tube TCR against the new Madone with spaceship shape and nothing between them at 30mph. Marketing. Creating a new niche to sell more bikes at greater profit when the old days were in fact better. The public is easily hustled because they have more money than knowledge. Look at Specialized returning to BSA on all their bikes after screwing the public with press fit that created an entire aftermarket industry like Praxis and Wheel Mfg.
Currently riding an SL7 and absolutely love it. I’m hoping this is some marketing genius by Spesh to get people talking about the SL8 and the actual release is far more aesthetically (and aerodynamically…though I’m no engineer) pleasing than the teasers we’ve seen so far! If not, I’ll be excited to see the discounted SL7s. :)
Was looking for an aero bike to compliment my Aethos and Crux. Wanted it to be the SL8 but aesthetics matter and that SL8 is a no-go for me. I'm glad to hear I'm not alone on this one...
The only thing I can think that would improve on the SL7 would be to make the integrated stem and headset really easy to assemble and take apart for servicing or travel.
I'm currently riding a 2023 Cervelo S5 with the new Dura Ace 12 speed groupset. I came off a Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL7 and although I loved the bike, it was a 2021 with the older 11 speed Dura Ace and I had a case of "FOMO" for the new 12 speed that came out. I ended up selling the SL7 mid-pandemic for just under what I paid for it and bought the Cervelo S5 when it came out in 2022. I absolutely love the S5, it is a tad heavier than the SL7, but that all goes away once you clip in. The bike is FAST, stiff, and does everything very well. I went to a set of 30mm Conti GP5000 S TR tires and that helps with the compliance on our ROUGH AS "you know what" roads here in Riverside and surrounding areas. The one REALLY cool thing is you'll never cut a steerer tube again with the S5. You want to go up or down on stem height, simply put in or take out a spacer or two.
Little bit "surprised" (i. e. disappointed) by Specialized's releases lately: Diverge STR (which I have NEVER seen riding around outside a bike shop), Epic WorldCup (which does not seem to be competitive on most World Cup Courses as most pro riders still choose the "old" Epic), now this SL8 ...
Definitely a let down. It's almost like they are were going for Venge in the head tube + fork and SL6 in the back. I'm more looking forward to the BMC prototype/timemachine? I like that shape better.
I saw the sl8 about a month ago...unfortunately this is it. I have to say, the launch pictures look better than this side on pic. Also, the Quickstep bike is missing the proper spacers that will come with public models.
I’m on a 2021 SL7 with climbing gears. Built it out with Force 46/33 and 10-36 in the rear. Might be time to upgrade to 48/35 up front!. When are you coming to SLC? I live an hour from Park City, would love to ride with y’all if I’m in town!
came from an SL6, moved to Giant this season, and am riding a TCX and Propel. SL7 always looked great, but we were all expecting a venge, thats what I would have taken money out of my own pocket to buy, I also cant forget the Aethos. Anyways, This "SL8" has the rear end of the SL6 for sure, and definitely the 3T front end... bad. I dont know a ton about flow, but from what I can tell with the fewer chines and less deep cross sections it would appear to be less aero... does this still mean a venge could be coming? They followed the new O2 from factor as the top tube looks really wide, as well as the head tube, creating a larger frontal area, same idea as the 105% tire rule. Not pleased with it... we'll see.
I was also expecting the Venge- I think it’s time. Here’s a thought- do other bikes have a similar front end, but they’re hidden much better by the fork and bar/stem design? If you look at the S5, it also looks bulky, just hidden with everything going on in front.
Kept my SWorks Venge guess it’s a forever bike - 2018 destroyer grey w/flo yellow graphics. What faster ? And the 30-32mm tires ease the awesome stiffness
Thanks for the channel and the interesting videos. Just my two cents, recognizing that we know very little about the SL8 at this time, including whether or not this is in fact the SL8, it could be a different custom racing bike. Given the amount of engineering that went into the SL7, and the fact that it is Specialized's top racing bike, IMHO, there is little chance that are any frame changes to the future SL8 that have not been tested and offer either weight or aerodynamic benefits (or both). The team riders will not have aesthetic concerns, they have Win concerns ; ) Also of note: the Cervelo S5, Panerello Dogma, SL7, Venge, and the BMC SLR 01 all position the seat stays below the top tube. This cannot be random. I rarely buy the first model of anything and for that reason alone, prefer SL7.
The SL7 looks way better, but if they can make it much lighter then the SL7 and make some good aero savings claims it will sell no matter how it looks.
Ahhh, there you go! That’s the data we’re looking for. I do agree that stellar numbers like that will help sales, but I also believe that aesthetics are huge. If someone’s not attracted to the bike, they’ll hesitate to give it a second look.
After just seeing those pictures, I’m thinking it’s very small tweaks from the SL7 even when the UCI has eased of on some rules. It must have been in development for at least a year and that’s what they cooked up… The aero claims and watt savings will be interesting to hear and must be good or else more than me still ride the SL7
Had an SL7 and after the SL6 I was "meh" on it. Went back to my 2017 Supersix and loving it. But SL7 at least is a good looking bike. SL8? Stab my eyes.
I don't know if I believe that first photo, but the Soudal team sporting all of the blue and black bikes really makes you wonder. I'm currently riding an s-works SL6 because of 1.) price and 2.) rim brakes for life! I would've sprung for an SL7 if the pricetag wasn't so wild, and the used ones are coming down in price nowadays. If the photos that we've seen are the new SL8, I will have 0 interest in it... SL6 is perfect, SL7 is perfect, but that new bike does not look quite appealing. Still can't wait for the release just to get all of the details though!
I have a 2019 Cervelo R2 (105 rim) I bought used summer 2021 after being told I couldn't get a Tarmac for 2021 (had asked for my dealer to get me a Tarmac SL6 Sport in March 2021), in late 2021 changed to say I wanted a SL7 Expert (when available) as I've progressed in racing (that's been a standing order with my dealer and their Specialized rep who haven't been able to get that either). For 2023 before the launch of the 105 Di2 Tarmac SL7, Specialized Canada said they would only be getting a couple hundred Tarmacs for the whole country this spring/summer, I'm assuming because they and dealers didn't want to be stuck with a bunch of SL6s/SL7s with the release of the SL8. So really, for me its not about the SL8 so much but just increased Tarmac availability that I am hoping will come with the release of the SL8. I would probably prefer the Venge if that were re-released but if I can't get a Tarmac following the SL8 launch I will probably order a Propel. There is nothing wrong with my Cervelo R2 but I don't want to invest in wheels for a rim brake bike and that makes me hesitant to do things like buy carbon bars or carbon seat post or upgraded saddle for it. If I had a disc brake platform, I was confident I would be holding onto for the next 5+ years, I would be a lot more open to making little upgrades and personalizing the bike than I am now.
@@outdoorbros_ great handling bike, still relevant/modern (sold by Specialized in 2023), new bikes hardly offer any noticable gains (integration maybe?) for the money (too expensive).
@@outdoorbros_ The SL6 was perfectly aero and light. It climbed amazing and was aero. It was perfection! And it didn't feel like a wooden ride like the SL7
@@outdoorbros_ I did a heap of research late last year on getting an SL6 Comp (105 11sp) vs SL7 Expert, test rode both quite a few times and ended up going the ‘22 SL6. Best decision I could’ve made for my first new bike in over 10 years! With the leftover cash I got CLII’s, aerofly bars (need 40mm), SMP saddle, power meter pedals and a new bike computer. If I can find a decently priced second hand Ultegra Di2 grouppo, I may consider going that route but damn, 105 R7000 has been fantastic. My SL6 is a massive upgrade over my old ‘09 Tarmac Elite; its comfy, handles superbly and is fast as fuck
No thanks! The SL7 to me is perfect and I'd love another one. Sadly mine was written off in May 22 only 2 weeks after finishing the build when a car took me out. I just haven't been able to find a 56cm frameset in a nice colour 😢
To me it is why it is being leaked. It's the how, in this case specialized gave this bike to their team to ride. And looks like it was partially intentional since I don't think you would give your team a brand new bike to just casually ride at a training camp. So to me the closest reason to give it out other than QA/QC which should 100% be done behind closed doors is for filming. Which would give it off as a more casual vibe and not indicative that it is being released soon since they'd still need to edit the footage.
The sl7 is one of the greatest bike. And despite the recall, the bike is very reliable and gives this feeling of trust and superiority.the only reason I preferred the aethos is the how the bike looked and the agility and comfort. I also think that the venge looked good but Like every 2 or 3 venge I see has this annoyingly and not that fixable creaking sound. I am curious to see what Specailized will present this year. If not that nice design and color, am heading the dogma way. The reviews of this bike is like amazing and the color ways are excellent. So, will you get a demo bike to review:)? I like the Matt color sl7 as compared to the glossy frames
This is all great, but I’m still waiting for your official comment about me making the right call in keeping my SL7… haha (kidding). Could the dogma really be that good? I’ll send another email and see what I can do.
@@outdoorbros_ I guess that I was jealous and furious as you took the the better decision and I did not. BTW, I did the Italian giro climbs this summer and was very happy on the aethos. I used the 26 and I should have gone with 28s maybe. The bike performed, gave me smiles, and attracted shit loads of attention
Currently on a 2016 specialized Alex E5 sport and thinking about upgrading to something different. The Melee comes to mind but can't justify the price so setteling for the Cannondale Caad, but waiting for an update on the bike as I don't like the pressfit BB on the current bike.
I will always believe it was a mistake to retire, or kill off (depending on the day of the week 😂) the Venge… discarding Godzilla is never a good idea…
Ha! Maybe there wasn't a place for it at the time, the aero bike era had it's run. Fast forward three years and I think it would have been incredibly well received.
@@outdoorbros_ Maybe so… being pure aero and a boulder rolling uphill is problematic… 😆… from a pure business perspective, abandoning that segment just left it open for their competitors, who still have aero dominant brands in their stable… but I’ll admit I’m biased because that’s the only bike that makes my heart jump when I see one… 🤷🏽♂️😆
great update as usual. want to keep an open mind on the SL8, but all i see is the image of a Beluga whale! looking forward to your Alps nutrition/hydration/equipment report. i am doing the thomson epic alp tour mid september on my aethos. your input i am sure will be super helpful!! thx
I was waiting so anxiously to build my dream road bike and the SL8 had all the chances to make that dream true. Right now I feel so disappointed with how it looks, we all know it’s gonna be faster, lighter and stiffer but most of us prioritise the looks over other characteristics.
"Don't try to turn your Aethos into a Tarmac!" -Everyone, after I went with a Venge stem and Enve 4.5's. I think you're on to something with your setup...
@@outdoorbros_ yeah it’s probably a bit slower in the ripping 26-30mph group rides than the Tarmac but at 57 years old the comfort is much more important!
I am on a SL7 S-works size 58 and I love the bike. I also ride a Sl6 Pro disc and and a SL6 S-works non disc and these bikes also ride great. A non disc S-works Sl6 is flying and very very agile. Fun to ride! Would I buy an SL8 S-works frameset? Maybe. I have to see it first. At the moment I love the Look Blade RS Mondriaan design (Team Cofidis) and the Colango V4RS (team Emirates). I also loved my Pinarello F10 in the past (very nice riding bike with no flaws) so I would love to ride the Dogma F.
Pure speculation on my part but that bulb-shaped head tube might be deliberately misleading. Pre-production models are sometimes camouflaged with stuck-on fairings and other stuff designed to deceive the eye. Bike frames designed to only carry wireless mechs were sometimes seen with dummy cables fitted. I enjoy my SL7 v. much. I'm aged 63 and just about everyone advised me to buy a bike with more relaxed geometry. Ignoring that advice was the best decision.
@@czts4778 To be honest, adapting to the bike was made easier by a lot of mobility and stretching exercises. Roubaix is a fine bike and not a compromise in any way.
Riding the SL7 (climbing bike) and Venge voor crit / aero. Will never sell my Venge, still the bike to rule with better looks and more speed for me 😊. My opinion, Specialized produced the best bike out there, the Venge. The development of the Tarmac and Epic and not that interesting at this moment.
I am on a 2 year old SL6 with 105, which is my first bike. I was waiting for the SL8 before considering my upgrade to a bike with Ultegra Di2 etc. but I am not sure if this is the new SL8. May go Pinarello F7 instead
Looks like a new aero front-end with Aethos rear half? So it would be a superbly aero and fully integrated version of Aethos, which means everyone would like it once released. People already praise the riding feel of feathery Aethos; just imagine riding an Aethos as aero as a Venge with no additional weight gain. ;)
Well I’m not sold but yet will have to wait for more official photos. Currently with some serious upgrades my SL7 is 6.2kg with 60/68 deep wheels and I have the new Roval Rapide cockpit custom paint. I’d don’t see what the the SL8 can offer me other than I have the latest frame!
The head tube on the putative SL8 is odd-looking. Current rides: 14.2 lb. (incl. pedals and cages) S-Works Aethos (Mistress of the Mountains) Bike Ahead Biturbo wheelset, Coefficient Cyclng RR bars, and SRAM Red eTap gruppo; and 15.4 lbs S-Works Crux SRAM Red eTap,, same colorway as yours.
@@outdoorbros_ The Coefficent Cycling RR (Race Ready) handlebar. It's a revealation. Just put it on the Aethos. Had a Roval Alpinist integrated bar/stem on it before. With an Extralite stem the new combo is ~80-100 gr. heavier. Doesn't matter. It is unbelievably fast. And comfortable, so comfortable. I can't beleive the Aethos is this fast now. fwiw, I have the AR (All Round) coeffiecent bar on the Crux. Also good. Short drop on that one, tops are round, not flat. Weight is ~100 gr less to. But the Race Ready, get it.
Different bike but I‘m waiting for a Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon to be available since last year Mai and not a single shop is able to order it and get a shipping date. Same for the Specialized website. Would be great if they could fix their supply chain issue’s first before they get new bikes on the market.
@@NC01 Oh, that's a tough one. I think the SL6 is lighter and more nimble. The power transfer made it accelerate and climb really well. The Team Machine however felt more comfortable for me as I have a short torso. I always used the Tarmac as a barometer for fit on my bikes as it was one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned so I kept going back to them. The Team Machine just fit me that little bit better. It's a little heavier and feels more planted but it can get up and go when you ask it. It handles really well and feels smoother overall. It makes for a good overall bike. You can't really go wrong with either of them but for me, the geometry and clean lines were better with the BMC. If you're concerned with weight I'd probably stay with the SL6. My SL6 had full SRAM Red AXS, hyrdo discs, and came in at 15.9 lbs in a size 49. While my BMC had full Dura Ace Di2, hyrdo discs, and came in at 17 lbs in a size 47. I did have my SL6 setup as my climber but if you were going to have one all-around bike it would probably still be lighter. But I wasn't disappointed with either of them, they're just different. I ended up getting the SL7 later because I wanted the integrated cockpit, but since I can't stop looking at bikes I ended up selling that and getting the BMC, who was maybe the first to integrate everything years ago. So, that's one difference between the two. The SL6 also felt like it skimmed over the road where the BMC seemed like it was more grounded in it, much like a steel frame rides. It's not slow, it just has a different feel, much like a luxury performance car (BMC) opposed to a sports car (SL6). Or to use surfing terms the BMC felt more like a fiberglass foam board very much in the water opposed to an epoxy board which kind of floats on the water like the SL6. Unfortunately, some guy crashed under me and cracked the chainstay on my BMC so I no longer have either of them. 😔
@@nerigarcia7116 thanks. I have two great bikes... but with release of SL8 and rim brakes out of favor, I am going to keep an eye out for someone dumping an sworks SL6 with rim brakes. That would be my climbing machine. Not a huge fan of Spesh, but all indications are that SL6 sworks rim is a beast. I'll wait for a dentist to dump one for a song. 😀
@@NC01 You can't go wrong with that. I remember seeing a Bora-Hansgrohe Edition SL6 for sale in rim brake and it looked nice. I could imagine it was pretty light too. Good luck with your search, it'll be a nice bike.
Been on an SL6 (expert) since my SL4 (s-works) was stolen. Honestly the SL4 was a dream, raced it and did big bike tours. Disc brakes are way overhyped.
I have a 2021 Specialized Tarmac SL7 Expert Ultegra Di2 and was waiting for the specialized bike and since the photos have release, im not impress and I won’t be getting the new sl8. I’ve a fan of specialized but I think now I will look toward allied or Cervélo
This is a massive missed opportunity. I have an S works SL7 and have been holding out for something closer to the venge. Sadly the wait will have to continue
I'm a specialized fanboy with a SL7, Epic Evo, and an Allez Sprint. That being said I think the SL8 looks horrendous, I'll stick with my SL7 and hope for a Re-Venge sometime soon.
I would be happy if they stopped making the aethos. Would be good knowing I own what is possibly a very unique bike that is no longer in production, and likely won’t be superseded by an upgraded model anytime soon.
Bikes have become ridiculous in terms of pricing! Companies have priced people out of the market. The SL8 looks nice but I prefer the SL7 but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to be better performance of course…I’m riding the Roubaix Comp 2021 Ultegra 11 speed mechanical with Ultegra Carbon wheels C36…good enough for me!
I don't see the look of that hump ever growing on me...Even if there are wind tunnel benefits and aero performance, it's hard to get over the ugliness haha
@@outdoorbros_ I have an older Sl3 SWorks Tarmac, I love that bike. I also have a Colnago C60, It fits me like a glove, rides like a dream, I could go on and on. No disrespect to Specialized,
@@czts4778 I don't think the geometry is all that different but the use of different shaped tubes and the seat post probably make the biggest difference. Im 52 also and im comfortable on both bikes but less fatigued after riding the Aethos
I don’t think SL8 is for people like you. Perhaps it’s for people who’s been riding an SL3 and is looking at a new bike 😄 Definitely no harm in upgrading to an SL8 from an SL7 or an SL6 though 🙌
You should buy a sl8. Yes it is enough diff, not sure if better but worth upgrading. Not really worth upgrading for most of the people that bought a SL7 and don’t ride regularly. Personally, I think you should get a free one from them since you’ve done more for them then probably any other UA-camr. By the way I hear unless you put the new handlebar it looks ugly.
@@outdoorbros_ Cheers and thanks for the videos! I have a couple trademarks and there is a use in commerce requirement to receive the mark. Technically you can apply for a trademark you are using it, but you will not receive the mark until you have evidence of use. You cannot simply trademark SL9, for example, without a product called SL9, otherwise people would be trademarking things all the time, effectively blocking naming rights on all kinds of new products.
I’ve seen the same Soudal pictures and I’m not a fan. I mean it’s plain FUGLY, surely a bike has to be aesthetically clean, something to admire and this new iteration isn’t. I’m currently riding an S-Works SL6 and I’m happy to run it for another year after seeing the SL8. The only thing that could prise me away is the Aethos and if not that, then switching out the eTap Red for the new Force D2. My frame is that classic white to silver fade and with the all black group set and my 303 Firecrests it should look great.
I am new into cycling and I purchased a still current sl6 sport (totally enough for me) however I wanted a sl7 but didn't want to expend that much but if I was into an upgrade later on this year and this "sl8" was real I would go to the sl7 instead 😅 that "new" looks awful
I don’t think those pictures are showing the same bike. If you zoom in on the Soudal one, it looks like it has future shock so that could be a new Roubaix. Either way, my personal road dream build is an Aethos with the new Force AXS group 🤩
Always a possibility. Could also be steerer tubes that haven’t been fully cut in anticipation for a different bar/stem setup. Aethos with the new Force would be A+++
@@outdoorbros_ Just interested in checking out the frame changes . The front end looks "Off" if this is the upgrade . And l wouldn't entertain riding the new wheels in Tubeless Ever @ 1520 grams Rubbish 🗑 120 grams of Xtra weight. Would love ❤️ a S Works Aethos as According 2 Specialized Head Office in Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 It's most probably a better Climber & better decending bike that the SL7 S-WORKS TARMAC. Especially if u built one around 5.9 kilos
I'm missing why this is a big deal unless you're not getting paid to ride or racing on the level of being a National champ. The bikes do not win races,humans do,and understand the pro bikes are mostly customized..The bike looks great, and? I am not falling into this scam that we need to change bikes,buy 'new' bikes,and that it's going to make us better riders..Only results matter, and if you took the top 40 riders in the world, put them on the same exact $5000 bike, they would still whip our butts on $15,000 bikes..
On soudal quick step photos's we can see like a future shock on the stem. Maybe forget the roubaix after the venge, and have now an aero, confortable, and lightweight all rounder bike
I have Domane - not the prettiest bike but I like it fine. That SL8 looks awkward and ugly.....I love the look of the aethos but that thing, yiiiiikes.
It's hideous! Just like the new Madone. Once you've optimized a design to perfection like the SL7 and there's nowhere to go from there, they get gimmicky and over engineer with horrible aesthetics. This bike just looks so unappealing...
@@outdoorbros_ agree completely. I thought your speculation about the Venge reintroduction made great sense from a marketing and merchandising standpoint!
My view of the frame has changed completely and I think they did a great job with this current iteration which appears to be a real improvement. We will see. For now I'm sticking to my Melee and my latest weight weenie Aethos build @@outdoorbros_
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Yay or nay on the new Tarmac SL8? Why?
That head tube is disgusting 🤮 I'm very disappointed.
Ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. I’ll happily give up the .1 of a watt to ride something that isn’t vomit inducing.
thta might be the roubaix, a new future shock or something
Nay
Huge dilemma for the bike industry and all industries really. How to stand out but not go to the bizarre extreme of the spectrum and alienate the sensibilities of the consumer. Specialized has a track record of f-ing up. Take the Roubaix SL3 in 2012 that Cancella won the Paris Roubaix on. One of the greatest bikes of all time and a bike I own with BSA bottom bracket and rim brakes and friendly geometry. Very compliant but plenty stiff for average rider. Specialized tarted up the new Roubaix which is heavier...and has a future shock which the company hopes will fail at some point so the consumer will have buy 'twice'. Profit. Now disc brake only.
Look what Specialized did with their new Diverge. With disc brake only, do you really need a Diverge and Roubaix? Of course not. They ruined it with goofy cable like contraption exiting the top tube. Riders hate the bobbing quality of this bike if the rider is stronger in particular with greater pedal forces. Aesthetically its horrid. An albatross.
And yes of course you are right about the SL8. Specialized will try to tout this ugly change as function and more aero but won't matter at all. There has been aero testing on different bikes including comparing the round tube TCR against the new Madone with spaceship shape and nothing between them at 30mph.
Marketing. Creating a new niche to sell more bikes at greater profit when the old days were in fact better.
The public is easily hustled because they have more money than knowledge.
Look at Specialized returning to BSA on all their bikes after screwing the public with press fit that created an entire aftermarket industry like Praxis and Wheel Mfg.
I think the new Look Blade RS looks very good.
Agree, it's gonna be my next bike
It’s definitely a unique look. Know anyone who has ridden one?
I’m curious, what’s your current bike?
@@outdoorbros_ Tarmac SL7 (Non Sworks version)
Currently riding an SL7 and absolutely love it. I’m hoping this is some marketing genius by Spesh to get people talking about the SL8 and the actual release is far more aesthetically (and aerodynamically…though I’m no engineer) pleasing than the teasers we’ve seen so far! If not, I’ll be excited to see the discounted SL7s. :)
I love my Aethos S-Works. I will be sad to see production stop, but more of a reason to hold on to my current setup.
Maybe it becomes an instant classic. Or maybe they continue producing it- we'll find out soon.
Still riding a 2013 venge. I've upgraded to tubeless deep section wheels and an Aero narrow bar. Still a weapon.
Was looking for an aero bike to compliment my Aethos and Crux. Wanted it to be the SL8 but aesthetics matter and that SL8 is a no-go for me. I'm glad to hear I'm not alone on this one...
The only thing I can think that would improve on the SL7 would be to make the integrated stem and headset really easy to assemble and take apart for servicing or travel.
Still on my Venge at 7.5kg and don't think i'm losing any gains to the SL7 so will see what the SL8 is like before ordering a V4RS!
Well yes, Venge is still the faster frame than SL7
Definitely not losing aero gains. The Venge is so awesome.
Yup.
@@outdoorbros_ if the sl8 gets me under 7kg with good aero then i'll be interested but the venge just rides so smoothly 👌
My VENGE is 7.1kg size 54 with 56,5mm aero wheels. Why TF would I change it? It looks so modern and top notch like it was released last year
I'm currently riding a 2023 Cervelo S5 with the new Dura Ace 12 speed groupset. I came off a Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL7 and although I loved the bike, it was a 2021 with the older 11 speed Dura Ace and I had a case of "FOMO" for the new 12 speed that came out. I ended up selling the SL7 mid-pandemic for just under what I paid for it and bought the Cervelo S5 when it came out in 2022. I absolutely love the S5, it is a tad heavier than the SL7, but that all goes away once you clip in. The bike is FAST, stiff, and does everything very well. I went to a set of 30mm Conti GP5000 S TR tires and that helps with the compliance on our ROUGH AS "you know what" roads here in Riverside and surrounding areas. The one REALLY cool thing is you'll never cut a steerer tube again with the S5. You want to go up or down on stem height, simply put in or take out a spacer or two.
I'll never change my mind about buying an sworks sl7.😂😜
Little bit "surprised" (i. e. disappointed) by Specialized's releases lately: Diverge STR (which I have NEVER seen riding around outside a bike shop), Epic WorldCup (which does not seem to be competitive on most World Cup Courses as most pro riders still choose the "old" Epic), now this SL8 ...
Right? They had a good run of a handful of bikes and the last few seem to be receiving a lukewarm consumer reception, at best.
Definitely a let down. It's almost like they are were going for Venge in the head tube + fork and SL6 in the back.
I'm more looking forward to the BMC prototype/timemachine? I like that shape better.
I think the new BMC will be an excellent bike. Do we have a rough launch date on that one?
Really want to buy a new bike. But can’t persuade me off me Sworks Venge. Light and aero. What more do you want. Tempted to get a respirator though
SW Venge is an awesome bike.
I saw the sl8 about a month ago...unfortunately this is it. I have to say, the launch pictures look better than this side on pic. Also, the Quickstep bike is missing the proper spacers that will come with public models.
You’re right. I think they’ll going to make the spacer better looking than that of the picture, like Pinarello.
I think it’s much better now that proper photos have launched.
I’m on a 2021 SL7 with climbing gears. Built it out with Force 46/33 and 10-36 in the rear. Might be time to upgrade to 48/35 up front!.
When are you coming to SLC? I live an hour from Park City, would love to ride with y’all if I’m in town!
Nice! I’ll be in Heber the latter part of next week.
came from an SL6, moved to Giant this season, and am riding a TCX and Propel. SL7 always looked great, but we were all expecting a venge, thats what I would have taken money out of my own pocket to buy, I also cant forget the Aethos. Anyways, This "SL8" has the rear end of the SL6 for sure, and definitely the 3T front end... bad. I dont know a ton about flow, but from what I can tell with the fewer chines and less deep cross sections it would appear to be less aero... does this still mean a venge could be coming? They followed the new O2 from factor as the top tube looks really wide, as well as the head tube, creating a larger frontal area, same idea as the 105% tire rule. Not pleased with it... we'll see.
I was also expecting the Venge- I think it’s time. Here’s a thought- do other bikes have a similar front end, but they’re hidden much better by the fork and bar/stem design? If you look at the S5, it also looks bulky, just hidden with everything going on in front.
Kept my SWorks Venge guess it’s a forever bike - 2018 destroyer grey w/flo yellow graphics. What faster ? And the 30-32mm tires ease the awesome stiffness
I really regret selling mine!
I am on a 22 SL7. If there is an SL8 it’s really going to have to WOW me to even consider upgrading. My SL7 is dialed and I love it!
I hear you!
Was ready to pull the trigger on a 10k bike build yesterday. Settled on the SL8 specc'd with an SL3 frame - Red AXS shifting and EE brakes... lol.
Ha!
Thanks for the channel and the interesting videos. Just my two cents, recognizing that we know very little about the SL8 at this time, including whether or not this is in fact the SL8, it could be a different custom racing bike. Given the amount of engineering that went into the SL7, and the fact that it is Specialized's top racing bike, IMHO, there is little chance that are any frame changes to the future SL8 that have not been tested and offer either weight or aerodynamic benefits (or both). The team riders will not have aesthetic concerns, they have Win concerns ; ) Also of note: the Cervelo S5, Panerello Dogma, SL7, Venge, and the BMC SLR 01 all position the seat stays below the top tube. This cannot be random. I rarely buy the first model of anything and for that reason alone, prefer SL7.
SL8 is pretty rad. So far I really like it.
The SL7 looks way better, but if they can make it much lighter then the SL7 and make some good aero savings claims it will sell no matter how it looks.
Ahhh, there you go! That’s the data we’re looking for. I do agree that stellar numbers like that will help sales, but I also believe that aesthetics are huge. If someone’s not attracted to the bike, they’ll hesitate to give it a second look.
@@outdoorbros_ See also the Venge VIAS. An ugly bike that didn't sell well until it went disc.
After just seeing those pictures, I’m thinking it’s very small tweaks from the SL7 even when the UCI has eased of on some rules. It must have been in development for at least a year and that’s what they cooked up… The aero claims and watt savings will be interesting to hear and must be good or else more than me still ride the SL7
Had an SL7 and after the SL6 I was "meh" on it. Went back to my 2017 Supersix and loving it.
But SL7 at least is a good looking bike.
SL8? Stab my eyes.
Apparently SL6 was way better than its replacement
I don't know if I believe that first photo, but the Soudal team sporting all of the blue and black bikes really makes you wonder. I'm currently riding an s-works SL6 because of 1.) price and 2.) rim brakes for life! I would've sprung for an SL7 if the pricetag wasn't so wild, and the used ones are coming down in price nowadays. If the photos that we've seen are the new SL8, I will have 0 interest in it... SL6 is perfect, SL7 is perfect, but that new bike does not look quite appealing. Still can't wait for the release just to get all of the details though!
You should take a spin on the SL8- it's a lot of fun.
I have a 2019 Cervelo R2 (105 rim) I bought used summer 2021 after being told I couldn't get a Tarmac for 2021 (had asked for my dealer to get me a Tarmac SL6 Sport in March 2021), in late 2021 changed to say I wanted a SL7 Expert (when available) as I've progressed in racing (that's been a standing order with my dealer and their Specialized rep who haven't been able to get that either). For 2023 before the launch of the 105 Di2 Tarmac SL7, Specialized Canada said they would only be getting a couple hundred Tarmacs for the whole country this spring/summer, I'm assuming because they and dealers didn't want to be stuck with a bunch of SL6s/SL7s with the release of the SL8. So really, for me its not about the SL8 so much but just increased Tarmac availability that I am hoping will come with the release of the SL8. I would probably prefer the Venge if that were re-released but if I can't get a Tarmac following the SL8 launch I will probably order a Propel. There is nothing wrong with my Cervelo R2 but I don't want to invest in wheels for a rim brake bike and that makes me hesitant to do things like buy carbon bars or carbon seat post or upgraded saddle for it. If I had a disc brake platform, I was confident I would be holding onto for the next 5+ years, I would be a lot more open to making little upgrades and personalizing the bike than I am now.
Go for a Cube lightening, better overall package for the price, you could upgrade the frameset on a late stage if needed
I hear you- hard to invest in a bike on an older platform. Sounds like you have some great options on the table!
That sounds like a good idea too!
Still riding the SL6 and keeping it! Possible upgrade 105 Di2 🤤
I’m curious, what keeps you on the SL6? I didn’t own one, but I have heard from those who do that it’s an incredible bike.
@@outdoorbros_ great handling bike, still relevant/modern (sold by Specialized in 2023), new bikes hardly offer any noticable gains (integration maybe?) for the money (too expensive).
@@outdoorbros_ The SL6 was perfectly aero and light. It climbed amazing and was aero. It was perfection! And it didn't feel like a wooden ride like the SL7
@@outdoorbros_ I did a heap of research late last year on getting an SL6 Comp (105 11sp) vs SL7 Expert, test rode both quite a few times and ended up going the ‘22 SL6. Best decision I could’ve made for my first new bike in over 10 years! With the leftover cash I got CLII’s, aerofly bars (need 40mm), SMP saddle, power meter pedals and a new bike computer. If I can find a decently priced second hand Ultegra Di2 grouppo, I may consider going that route but damn, 105 R7000 has been fantastic. My SL6 is a massive upgrade over my old ‘09 Tarmac Elite; its comfy, handles superbly and is fast as fuck
No thanks! The SL7 to me is perfect and I'd love another one. Sadly mine was written off in May 22 only 2 weeks after finishing the build when a car took me out. I just haven't been able to find a 56cm frameset in a nice colour 😢
To me it is why it is being leaked.
It's the how, in this case specialized gave this bike to their team to ride. And looks like it was partially intentional since I don't think you would give your team a brand new bike to just casually ride at a training camp. So to me the closest reason to give it out other than QA/QC which should 100% be done behind closed doors is for filming. Which would give it off as a more casual vibe and not indicative that it is being released soon since they'd still need to edit the footage.
Interesting take!
would it be the gray one at the beginning of the video? It is honestly the same as the SL7 with a more muscular steering. out 8 agosto?
Like could it be the 3T Strada?
@@outdoorbros_ I've seen the new Tarmac, it's the same as the SL7 only with more oversized and personally uglier steering. Disappointment!
The sl7 is one of the greatest bike. And despite the recall, the bike is very reliable and gives this feeling of trust and superiority.the only reason I preferred the aethos is the how the bike looked and the agility and comfort. I also think that the venge looked good but Like every 2 or 3 venge I see has this annoyingly and not that fixable creaking sound. I am curious to see what Specailized will present this year. If not that nice design and color, am heading the dogma way. The reviews of this bike is like amazing and the color ways are excellent. So, will you get a demo bike to review:)? I like the Matt color sl7 as compared to the glossy frames
This is all great, but I’m still waiting for your official comment about me making the right call in keeping my SL7… haha (kidding).
Could the dogma really be that good? I’ll send another email and see what I can do.
@@outdoorbros_ I guess that I was jealous and furious as you took the the better decision and I did not. BTW, I did the Italian giro climbs this summer and was very happy on the aethos. I used the 26 and I should have gone with 28s maybe. The bike performed, gave me smiles, and attracted shit loads of attention
Currently on a 2016 specialized Alex E5 sport and thinking about upgrading to something different. The Melee comes to mind but can't justify the price so setteling for the Cannondale Caad, but waiting for an update on the bike as I don't like the pressfit BB on the current bike.
Melee is a great bike. There have been some more affordable ones floating around the used market recently.
Snatched up a 2016 caad8 frame last year and love it. Built it up with r7000 105. All the bike I personally need. Threaded BB for the win
The rise and fall of the tarmac bike :))) makes it easier to choose now. S5 is emerging out the list
Have you ridden it yet? I really think you should...
@@outdoorbros_ I just ordered the sl8 frame set.
Nay, at the moment. Tarmac SL7 pro here. I would likely upgrade to a sworks frame or aethos
What would persuade you otherwise? I’m fully expecting some good data at the launch.
@@outdoorbros_ I fully expect specialized to be a marketing company first.
We are spoiled..we honestly dont need a new SL8 right now..the SL7 just dropped in 2020 for 2021...if it aint broke dont fix it.
Agreed. Do you think we’ve reached an era where all high-end bikes are really good?
I will always believe it was a mistake to retire, or kill off (depending on the day of the week 😂) the Venge… discarding Godzilla is never a good idea…
Ha! Maybe there wasn't a place for it at the time, the aero bike era had it's run. Fast forward three years and I think it would have been incredibly well received.
@@outdoorbros_ Maybe so… being pure aero and a boulder rolling uphill is problematic… 😆… from a pure business perspective, abandoning that segment just left it open for their competitors, who still have aero dominant brands in their stable… but I’ll admit I’m biased because that’s the only bike that makes my heart jump when I see one… 🤷🏽♂️😆
great update as usual. want to keep an open mind on the SL8, but all i see is the image of a Beluga whale!
looking forward to your Alps nutrition/hydration/equipment report. i am doing the thomson epic alp tour mid september on my aethos. your input i am sure will be super helpful!! thx
Haha! It seems to be better than the original photos showed. The France video with nutrition is in editing- hopefully soon!
I was waiting so anxiously to build my dream road bike and the SL8 had all the chances to make that dream true. Right now I feel so disappointed with how it looks, we all know it’s gonna be faster, lighter and stiffer but most of us prioritise the looks over other characteristics.
My S -works Slammed Aethos with 60mm wheels looks better every day. What’s more important is 10 years from now It will still look damn good.
"Don't try to turn your Aethos into a Tarmac!" -Everyone, after I went with a Venge stem and Enve 4.5's. I think you're on to something with your setup...
@@outdoorbros_ yeah it’s probably a bit slower in the ripping 26-30mph group rides than the Tarmac but at 57 years old the comfort is much more important!
I am on a SL7 S-works size 58 and I love the bike. I also ride a Sl6 Pro disc and and a SL6 S-works non disc and these bikes also ride great. A non disc S-works Sl6 is flying and very very agile. Fun to ride! Would I buy an SL8 S-works frameset? Maybe. I have to see it first. At the moment I love the Look Blade RS Mondriaan design (Team Cofidis) and the Colango V4RS (team Emirates). I also loved my Pinarello F10 in the past (very nice riding bike with no flaws) so I would love to ride the Dogma F.
Nice! A lot of people are mentioning the Look Blade RS- I'm going to have to give it a closer look.
Currently riding an S5. No chance I’d get off this bike for that junk. Thanks for the video!
Which gen S5? I really want to ride one.
Pure speculation on my part but that bulb-shaped head tube might be deliberately misleading. Pre-production models are sometimes camouflaged with stuck-on fairings and other stuff designed to deceive the eye. Bike frames designed to only carry wireless mechs were sometimes seen with dummy cables fitted. I enjoy my SL7 v. much. I'm aged 63 and just about everyone advised me to buy a bike with more relaxed geometry. Ignoring that advice was the best decision.
We’ll I guess you’re my idol with that decision. I currently ride a roubaix and wanted to have a racing bike. I’m 52 yo.
@@czts4778 To be honest, adapting to the bike was made easier by a lot of mobility and stretching exercises. Roubaix is a fine bike and not a compromise in any way.
I would say it will look better in reality than in a photo, I think we need to wait until la Vuelta
There are already photos of it from Quickstep's training camp
@@sbart23 yeah I know, I mean that we need to wait until Vuelta for the final release
Let’s hope so. I’m hoping proper studio photos will display it better than what we’ve seen.
Riding the SL7 (climbing bike) and Venge voor crit / aero. Will never sell my Venge, still the bike to rule with better looks and more speed for me 😊.
My opinion, Specialized produced the best bike out there, the Venge. The development of the Tarmac and Epic and not that interesting at this moment.
I still think there’s room in the lineup for the Venge. I think it would be very, very exciting.
@@outdoorbros_agree a new Venge would change my setup haha!
Will look at Mosaic RT-1 or Officina Battaglin instead of SL8. Currently riding Colnago C68, previously rode SL5 and C60.
Interesting alternatives.
I am on a 2 year old SL6 with 105, which is my first bike. I was waiting for the SL8 before considering my upgrade to a bike with Ultegra Di2 etc.
but I am not sure if this is the new SL8. May go Pinarello F7 instead
I’m still riding 2016 Fuji SL 1.1 ! Best bike ever!
Right on!
Looks like a new aero front-end with Aethos rear half? So it would be a superbly aero and fully integrated version of Aethos, which means everyone would like it once released. People already praise the riding feel of feathery Aethos; just imagine riding an Aethos as aero as a Venge with no additional weight gain. ;)
So you’re a fan? I think you’ve looked beyond the head tube and you might be on the right track here!
@@outdoorbros_ You'll quickly get used to the ugly head tube bump once every new bike starts to look like that.
Well I’m not sold but yet will have to wait for more official photos.
Currently with some serious upgrades my SL7 is 6.2kg with 60/68 deep wheels and I have the new Roval Rapide cockpit custom paint. I’d don’t see what the the SL8 can offer me other than I have the latest frame!
SL8 is noticeably different. It's like the SL7 in track mode.
I’m currently riding a Factor Astro VAM. Not looking to purchase right now.
Can't blame you- great bike.
@@outdoorbros_ thanks. I love riding it.
Keep up the great work.
The head tube on the putative SL8 is odd-looking. Current rides: 14.2 lb. (incl. pedals and cages) S-Works Aethos (Mistress of the Mountains) Bike Ahead Biturbo wheelset, Coefficient Cyclng RR bars, and SRAM Red eTap gruppo; and 15.4 lbs S-Works Crux SRAM Red eTap,, same colorway as yours.
Geez, that's quite the two-bike quiver. So light!
@@outdoorbros_ The Coefficent Cycling RR (Race Ready) handlebar. It's a revealation. Just put it on the Aethos. Had a Roval Alpinist integrated bar/stem on it before. With an Extralite stem the new combo is ~80-100 gr. heavier. Doesn't matter. It is unbelievably fast. And comfortable, so comfortable. I can't beleive the Aethos is this fast now. fwiw, I have the AR (All Round) coeffiecent bar on the Crux. Also good. Short drop on that one, tops are round, not flat. Weight is ~100 gr less to. But the Race Ready, get it.
Different bike but I‘m waiting for a Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon to be available since last year Mai and not a single shop is able to order it and get a shipping date. Same for the Specialized website. Would be great if they could fix their supply chain issue’s first before they get new bikes on the market.
I've had an SL2, SL3, SL5, SL6, and SL7 and I think the SL6 was the best of them all. Although, I now ride a BMC Teammachine SLR01 so....
Fair!
And how is team machine vs SL6?
@@NC01 Oh, that's a tough one. I think the SL6 is lighter and more nimble. The power transfer made it accelerate and climb really well. The Team Machine however felt more comfortable for me as I have a short torso. I always used the Tarmac as a barometer for fit on my bikes as it was one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned so I kept going back to them. The Team Machine just fit me that little bit better. It's a little heavier and feels more planted but it can get up and go when you ask it. It handles really well and feels smoother overall. It makes for a good overall bike. You can't really go wrong with either of them but for me, the geometry and clean lines were better with the BMC. If you're concerned with weight I'd probably stay with the SL6. My SL6 had full SRAM Red AXS, hyrdo discs, and came in at 15.9 lbs in a size 49. While my BMC had full Dura Ace Di2, hyrdo discs, and came in at 17 lbs in a size 47. I did have my SL6 setup as my climber but if you were going to have one all-around bike it would probably still be lighter. But I wasn't disappointed with either of them, they're just different. I ended up getting the SL7 later because I wanted the integrated cockpit, but since I can't stop looking at bikes I ended up selling that and getting the BMC, who was maybe the first to integrate everything years ago. So, that's one difference between the two. The SL6 also felt like it skimmed over the road where the BMC seemed like it was more grounded in it, much like a steel frame rides. It's not slow, it just has a different feel, much like a luxury performance car (BMC) opposed to a sports car (SL6). Or to use surfing terms the BMC felt more like a fiberglass foam board very much in the water opposed to an epoxy board which kind of floats on the water like the SL6. Unfortunately, some guy crashed under me and cracked the chainstay on my BMC so I no longer have either of them. 😔
@@nerigarcia7116 thanks. I have two great bikes... but with release of SL8 and rim brakes out of favor, I am going to keep an eye out for someone dumping an sworks SL6 with rim brakes. That would be my climbing machine. Not a huge fan of Spesh, but all indications are that SL6 sworks rim is a beast. I'll wait for a dentist to dump one for a song. 😀
@@NC01 You can't go wrong with that. I remember seeing a Bora-Hansgrohe Edition SL6 for sale in rim brake and it looked nice. I could imagine it was pretty light too. Good luck with your search, it'll be a nice bike.
Been on an SL6 (expert) since my SL4 (s-works) was stolen. Honestly the SL4 was a dream, raced it and did big bike tours. Disc brakes are way overhyped.
Should we go back to rim brakes?
It should stay as a far less expensive option@@outdoorbros_
I have a 2021 Specialized Tarmac SL7 Expert Ultegra Di2 and was waiting for the specialized bike and since the photos have release, im not impress and I won’t be getting the new sl8.
I’ve a fan of specialized but I think now I will look toward allied or Cervélo
I’m stoked for the new ALFA to launch soon! I checked it out when I was there last month and it’s awesome.
@@outdoorbros_ hopefully you make a video on the new Alfa ???
@@outdoorbros_ oh yeah what do you think of the new S-Works Torch Lace?
This is a massive missed opportunity. I have an S works SL7 and have been holding out for something closer to the venge. Sadly the wait will have to continue
I expect this one will cost the same price as an F1 car 🤣 I'll just stick with my 'old school' SL4 rim brake. 👍
Haha! I think it’ll go up to $6,000 for the frame. We’ll see…
@@outdoorbros_ And I bet you it'll save you 50 watts @ 100 mph, be stiffer, lighter & more vertically compliant than any previous Tarmac ever 🤣
Remember the pros get DIFFERENT frames and forks than consumers get.
Ive proven this in a few videos. IKYYK.
Are you implying that the SL8 will be different?
Ill happily be staying on my SL7: its a fantastic bike and aesthetically pleasing.
I don't know... SL8 is pretty cool.
I'm a specialized fanboy with a SL7, Epic Evo, and an Allez Sprint. That being said I think the SL8 looks horrendous, I'll stick with my SL7 and hope for a Re-Venge sometime soon.
I would be happy if they stopped making the aethos.
Would be good knowing I own what is possibly a very unique bike that is no longer in production, and likely won’t be superseded by an upgraded model anytime soon.
That would be cool- instant classic.
The Aethos better be here to STAY I love MINE
We’ll see! It’s all hypothetical at this point.
The specs are out and it is sounding ridiculously light and faster than the venge
Yup. I’m anxious to hear how all of that translates to the road…
Need a Tarmac SL8 vs. V4rs video.
If you have a contact at Colnago, I’m happy to reach out.
I still love the Venge... I am not if anything is drastically better?
Bikes have become ridiculous in terms of pricing! Companies have priced people out of the market. The SL8 looks nice but I prefer the SL7 but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to be better performance of course…I’m riding the Roubaix Comp 2021 Ultegra 11 speed mechanical with Ultegra Carbon wheels C36…good enough for me!
Seems like most big brands are consistent in pricing. Canyon being the exception.
"Here Lies Venge" = hilarious
Nate, what the heck? Why aren't you coming to climbing camp? So bummed.
@@outdoorbros_ Me too :( ua-cam.com/video/bOR38552MJA/v-deo.html
Front looks bad and the back is literally the SL6.
I’m hoping there’s some logic behind the front end. Time will tell…
I ride the tarmac SL6 rim brake, brilliant bike. I have never had a reason to buy in to new bike commercialisation hype train buzz.
Couldn't it be argued that the SL6 also had the same new bike commercialization during its time?
I don't see the look of that hump ever growing on me...Even if there are wind tunnel benefits and aero performance, it's hard to get over the ugliness haha
Not a chance, pulling the trigger on Colnago V4RS...
What made you go in that direction?
@@outdoorbros_ I have an older Sl3 SWorks Tarmac, I love that bike. I also have a Colnago C60, It fits me like a glove, rides like a dream, I could go on and on. No disrespect to Specialized,
No different that what Giant has done with the 23+ Propel. Propel in the front / TCR in the back
Seems to be the trend.
I have a SL7 and an Aethos. I ride the AEthos most of the time.
Is it because of the relaxed geometry of the bike? I’m 52 yo and a lot of my cyclist friends telling me to buy aethos.
@@czts4778 I don't think the geometry is all that different but the use of different shaped tubes and the seat post probably make the biggest difference. Im 52 also and im comfortable on both bikes but less fatigued after riding the Aethos
I get it- awesome bike!
I think the Aethos is a little easier on the body, that’s for sure.
Happy with my Super Six Evo
Great bike!
the perfect bike would be sl7 at the front and aethos at the back- Future meets the classic
I agree! That combo would be a total winner.
I don’t think SL8 is for people like you. Perhaps it’s for people who’s been riding an SL3 and is looking at a new bike 😄
Definitely no harm in upgrading to an SL8 from an SL7 or an SL6 though 🙌
Fair point!
I walked away from Spec after SL4... would never go back.
Why’s that?
You should buy a sl8. Yes it is enough diff, not sure if better but worth upgrading. Not really worth upgrading for most of the people that bought a SL7 and don’t ride regularly. Personally, I think you should get a free one from them since you’ve done more for them then probably any other UA-camr. By the way I hear unless you put the new handlebar it looks ugly.
Thanks! I might be Crux salesman of the year. I have zero contacts at Specialized, but they now have my email, so....
Theory #1 proves it is the rider, not the bike. No strong S riders, so why release a new bike? Ouch.
Harsh!
My next bike will be a "Girs Solo"
I can easily justify it. But I'm not buying it. There's only one reason for that. I can't afford it.
Do elaborate…
But what if it saves 20 seconds over 40 km/h? Once everyone enters the specialized hype hollogram everyone will be selling their gallbladders for one.
Now that it has released, how many gallbladders have been sold?
@@outdoorbros_ I’m making a Craigslist post now!
Realistically, it’s the rider that has done well not the bikes.
This headtube cannot be the next sl8. Specialized doesn’t make ugly products😂
Hahaha! What about the Venge Vias?
Hard to believe Specialized only recently trade marked Tarmac SL8.
I was shocked as well. Sounds like it’s no an uncommon practice to trademark right before the launch… but I’m no trademark expert.
@@outdoorbros_ Cheers and thanks for the videos! I have a couple trademarks and there is a use in commerce requirement to receive the mark. Technically you can apply for a trademark you are using it, but you will not receive the mark until you have evidence of use. You cannot simply trademark SL9, for example, without a product called SL9, otherwise people would be trademarking things all the time, effectively blocking naming rights on all kinds of new products.
They should name it the "Pilot Whale" with that protruding forehead/head fine.
I’ve seen the same Soudal pictures and I’m not a fan. I mean it’s plain FUGLY, surely a bike has to be aesthetically clean, something to admire and this new iteration isn’t.
I’m currently riding an S-Works SL6 and I’m happy to run it for another year after seeing the SL8. The only thing that could prise me away is the Aethos and if not that, then switching out the eTap Red for the new Force D2. My frame is that classic white to silver fade and with the all black group set and my 303 Firecrests it should look great.
Sounds like you’ve got a killer setup. At the end of the day, if you’re stoked on what you’re riding, no need to upgrade.
For some reason the SL8 looks like a flowerhorn to me 🤣
Ha!
A lot of hilarious theories. "Let me know whether you consider upgrading to this." Like WTF? Nobody here has any details of the bike yet.
I think it’s safe to say it’s not going to a dramatic departure from what’s currently on the market. Would you agree?
I am new into cycling and I purchased a still current sl6 sport (totally enough for me) however I wanted a sl7 but didn't want to expend that much but if I was into an upgrade later on this year and this "sl8" was real I would go to the sl7 instead 😅 that "new" looks awful
I had/have the same challenge.
Why I'm not buying: no cash. Also just got a Sunweb TCR for 1000 bucks
That headtube does not look good
I don’t think those pictures are showing the same bike. If you zoom in on the Soudal one, it looks like it has future shock so that could be a new Roubaix. Either way, my personal road dream build is an Aethos with the new Force AXS group 🤩
Always a possibility. Could also be steerer tubes that haven’t been fully cut in anticipation for a different bar/stem setup. Aethos with the new Force would be A+++
Not an SL8 new roubaix
When does that launch?
Have a Beautifull SL7 S-WORKS 54CM TARMAC.
( 6.83 Kilos ) ready 2 Ride.
Color Tiger Eye 👁.
If that was a true photo of the SL8 l am disappointed.
But if you already own the SL7 and love it, were you looking to upgrade?
@@outdoorbros_
Just interested in checking out the frame changes . The front end looks "Off" if this is the upgrade .
And l wouldn't entertain riding the new wheels in Tubeless Ever @ 1520 grams
Rubbish 🗑 120 grams of Xtra weight.
Would love ❤️ a S Works Aethos as According 2 Specialized Head Office in Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
It's most probably a better Climber & better decending bike that the SL7 S-WORKS TARMAC.
Especially if u built one around 5.9 kilos
I'm missing why this is a big deal unless you're not getting paid to ride or racing on the level of being a National champ. The bikes do not win races,humans do,and understand the pro bikes are mostly customized..The bike looks great, and? I am not falling into this scam that we need to change bikes,buy 'new' bikes,and that it's going to make us better riders..Only results matter, and if you took the top 40 riders in the world, put them on the same exact $5000 bike, they would still whip our butts on $15,000 bikes..
Same goes for phones, cameras, vehicles, etc. etc. Just add it to the list.
@@outdoorbros_ just a whole lotta SCAMS to remove what wealth we do acquire...Bill Gate's watch is like $200..
On soudal quick step photos's we can see like a future shock on the stem.
Maybe forget the roubaix after the venge, and have now an aero, confortable, and lightweight all rounder bike
I think they're just regular spacers, there's nowhere beneath the stem for the system to compress so likely not future shock.
I also think it looks to close to the SL7.
If that's tye SL8..big oooffff 😂
Maybe it’s not… let’s hope it’s not.
I have Domane - not the prettiest bike but I like it fine. That SL8 looks awkward and ugly.....I love the look of the aethos but that thing, yiiiiikes.
Hello Specialized TCR
It's hideous! Just like the new Madone. Once you've optimized a design to perfection like the SL7 and there's nowhere to go from there, they get gimmicky and over engineer with horrible aesthetics. This bike just looks so unappealing...
Good points. I think there's inevitably awkward eras in innovation and this might be one of them. Hopefully it looks better in person.
@@outdoorbros_ agree completely. I thought your speculation about the Venge reintroduction made great sense from a marketing and merchandising standpoint!
My view of the frame has changed completely and I think they did a great job with this current iteration which appears to be a real improvement. We will see. For now I'm sticking to my Melee and my latest weight weenie Aethos build
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absolutely nay it looks like systemsix's front end
Bingo.