Just imagine you had something like a car attached to the other end of the lock and wouldn't need to set it up in a vice... All the saved time on picking... :P
It depends. If that was about a random padlock, yes, but car thieves tend to be way more specialized. It is a guaranteed product on the tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands. Of course I don't think lockpicking if fairly common since cars have alarms and other security systems, but if that is the optimal way to steal a BMW you can expect the average thug to be even faster.
Wow! That wasn't "quick!" It took LPL just over 60 seconds, and that's with the tool that makes it easier *and* with LPL's experience/skill! His time for an average lock is usually around half as long!
I just watched the latest Mission Impossible movie and the entire plot is centered around acquiring a key to unlock something and I couldn't help but think through the entire movie, "Why not just send in LPL? Would make this whole thing a whole lot easier!"
The IM team has an "impossible" lock, so they bring in the LPL. He estimates that it will probably take him 5 minutes or so even at his skill level. Unfortunately for him, there are all sorts of deadly assassins and machines that the IM team will need to keep off of him while he works. Just when they think they'll be overwhelmed, LPL gets through...only to find another lock.
I remember locking the keys to my BMW Z4 in the trunk one time. This was about 11 years ago. I called a locksmith who could get into BMWs that utilized what was then known as “laser-cut keys.” At that time, I thought it’d be next to impossible for anyone, including a locksmith, to pick the lock. But this guy brought some custom tools, worked on my lock for about 15 minutes, and successfully did the job! It’s really funny to see that the LPL is able to pick such a lock in under a minute, though.
The "laser-cut" has to do with the transponder in the key. Many are "keyed" by using a precision trimmed resistor as part of a timing circuit. A laser is used to cut the resistor to exactly the correct size to get the desired resistance. You can't get that level of precision using the typical bulk methods of creating resistors which, at best, give +/- 1% accuracy.
It's actually pretty impressive that you managed to lock the keys in the trunk. I've owned E34 and E39 BMWs and they were basically impossible to lock the key in the car and very hard to lock the key in the trunk...like open trunk, lock trunk with key, remove key, then toss it in the trunk lol.
Have had several BMWs in the past and always wondered how on earth anyone picked them. Always felt extra safe, since it was a German designed, premium looking lock. I’m just glad he didn’t bring out a “wafer lock raking tool found on covert instruments”!
For manuals: pop the gear in N, unset the parking brake, and roll it onto a flat bed. Wear safety vests and nobody will realize you're stealing the car.
All VAG have inner groove keys too, and can be opened and started with a antenna booster. That's how they all do it, since people got too lazy to put their key into the dash or steering column. They emptied my boss's M3 out, steering wheel, airbags, navigation, etc. Took 10mins no witnesses. Right in front of his house, on the driveway.
@@cyan_oxy6734 They often share suppliers like Bosch. Not sure if the do for the locks though. They do use the style lock at least. LPL is using a HU100 here and the similar HU66 works for VAG products.
@@urlor_jkron Usually they do share the same subset of suppliers, unless it's a special model that they want to promote, like Mercedes have tried to promote their anti-theft measures where they may go out of their way to get non-shelf parts or do things in house. Bu in the vast majority of cases it's the same subset of suppliers being used by most groups within the same regions. Also due to how these suppliers are used to handling the supply chain systems for automakers, smoothes things out.
My guess is this is the same lock used on all the F chassis cars and potentially the entire BMW range around 2014. However, the chances of a thief in my city knowing how to pick a lock is minimal.... They'll just smash the window and bank on the slow police response (or no police response at all).
It would actually be interesting to see the difference between a Leishie tool and 'normal' tools, he did say that it would turn a challenging process into a simpler one :)
If you check the LPL left finger you will see he did counter rotations in all the steps, but he didn't said the "counter rotation in" words. LPL does it easy but you should need a bit of experience to do that ...
I actually have a very similar key for my BMW i4, but the location for the lock's keyway may make the picking more challenging. To access the keyhole, you need to lift the door handle and hold it up. This seems like it would make tensioning the lock more difficult since the tension bar would be pointed down away from the handle. I guess someone could figure out some sort of device to hold the handle up, but then the picking would still be awkward since the tension bar is opposite where it's typically practiced being used. May be one of those cases where an alternative means of access would prove more viable than specialty picks and customized assistance devices... Like a large rock.
I think he was just shortening the name for brevity, as he showed us the tool and name the entire time he was picking. But yes, I understand they are for different cars.
@jimyeats I think it's more that he is not well versed in all of the lishi tools and auto keyway nomenclature yet. As I said, I am not criticising, I am pointing out that hu100 and hu100r are completely different keyways. I dont think the LPL was aware of this at the time and if he was it wouldn't be correct to shorten it's name in that way. There is also a 10 wafer hu100 and an 8 wafer hu100 version of lishi. But neither of them will help you pick a hu100r keyway.
When I was doing AA roadservice, a very common callout was "keys locked in car". A few of the operators had their own sets of Lishi tools but we had to buy our own. I could never justify the expense as it was an after hours job for only a few hours per week. I did get to practice a bit with some of the other guys tools and found them great to work with. In saying that, I have opened that particular model of BMW and it took me around 15 to 20 mins! 🤣 In general, I found it easier and faster to use my air wedge and lockout kit. The only reason I tried picks on that car was that the owner did not want any forcing applied to the door frame or tools inserted past the door frame seals.
It's a matter of skill clearly. If there are option A and option B and you only trained in one of them, then whether it is superior or inferior, usually you will be better at it than in the other one by lone fact of having the experience. This affects everything that is highly skill-dependent. If you actually trained with the Lishi tools to 'master' them, you would probably have little issue unlocking doors in far shorter time and maybe it would take you less time than with the normal sets. Though, if it works for you, there's no real reason to change it I guess. I don't have the impression it's the kind of job where the method matters that much compared to the outcome, so as long as you don't leave damage with your preferred tools, it's all OK.
I did roadside for a few years and keys locked in car was so common, we all feared BMW locks, not because they were any harder to pick than others, but because they were often stuffed. they're really not designed to be used.
I had the same thing with my smart car. The keyway is never used and it even has a plug in it. The one day the battery died I had to use the key in it. The plug was completed rusted in to the keyway. We ended up having to pry out the plug and busting up part of the trim around the keyway in the process.
Physical security on a car will always be a compromise. It can't be a tank. You need to be able to extract passengers if there's a crash, and you have to keep cost and weight down.
well depends, I met few people that wouldnt agree with this statement. It seems there is some kind of exploit (In quite recent and expensive BMW machines) that allows thiefs to literally disassemble interior of car without any reaction of security systems. They even took steering wheel.
" All VAG have inner groove keys too, and can be opened and started with a antenna booster. That's how they all do it, since people got too lazy to put their key into the dash or steering column. They emptied my boss's M3 out, steering wheel, airbags, navigation, etc. Took 10mins no witnesses. Right in front of his house, on the driveway" according to this they don't
@@jonathanwieringa8808to make this u need something to broke window and high quality wire cutter, broke window open trunk remove battery and u have all time u need.
@@jonathanwieringa8808 Speed of light calculations should tell the computer that the key fob can't be inside the vehicle even if the signal is great enough. Any repeater in use will make that even more obvious. It's not like light is very fast compared to CPU clocks.
These cars are easier to steal via software defined radio. Also, that lock is from a 335/340i not an M3. F8x M3 was not available in Estoril Blue II which is what this is painted. Not that it matters because it’s the same lock, but in the interest of accuracy.
Love watching these vids. It's just interesting to see how he gets into all these locks. Tbh, I learned quite a bit and want to add lock picking to my skill set now so if I'm ever locked out of my house or car or really anything, I won't have to rely on a locksmith.
@@UntakenNick fair point, well maybe not if I'm locked out of my car but if I leave them in my car instead I might still be able to get into my house. Plus some locks can be picked with very basic shit too.
I once locked my keys in my 2018 F250... while it was running... out in Nowhere, TX. Worst part... I had my Ford door code stored on my phone... but my phone was in the truck too! This was at 10:30 at night. Luckily I had one get-out-of-jail-free locksmith call via my extended warranty (IIRC) but it took the guy an hour to get there. He used an inflatable bag to pry open the door a crack, then stuck a stick in and opened the door. Lesson: write your code on a card and keep it in your wallet, if you have a wallet. Or... tattoo it to your hand. Ford could not give me the code on the phone.
My 2016 Chevy van has a lock like that. I had to replace the ignition switch and to do that the ignition lock has to come out. It's also a wafer lock that seemed almost comical. Very cheap. The van also won't do anything unless you have a real key. Electronic ignition switch sensor. Be sure to note the timing on the ignition switch gear. You'll need to get that right to start the truck again. I must have tried 6 or 7 times before I got that right. BTW, if you own a 2015+ GM van and it's giving you trouble starting, replace the ignition switch and start with the relays under the hood. So far I've had 3 relays go bad. Since then, it's as good as gold. Window relay went bad first. Ignition and EGR relay went bad later. You also can't buy them at the auto store. Make sure you have spares.
Locksmiths use this tool to open and make mechanical keys to the lock. There are many immobiliser systems in these vehicles. EWS was the first, that had several versions, then there was CAS then FEM. Transponders/remotes could be generated using a variety of tools these vehicles, until the G-series of vehicles approx.. 2018ish. At this time only dealer keys can be obtained in a lost or extra key situation. Even relay attacks are thwarted as the proximity keys shut down when they are not being moved about. Along with Mercedes FBS4 these are the most electronically secure of vehicles. IMHO
Takes about as long to get in to a BMW with a rod and air bladder through the top of the door frame as long as the battery has enough voltage. Don't have to worry about the alarm that way either.
I have a BMW car and a couple of BMW motorcycles. The motorcycles use the same type of lock for the ignition cylinder. About a year or so ago, I was at the beach with one of my BMW motorcycles where I accidentally locked the key in the under seat storage compartment. To open the compartment, I needed that key for the ignition cylinder that also doubles to open the storage compartment and gas cap. Contacted a locksmith who came out to try to pick the lock. He spent maybe a 30 seconds on it and gave up. At that point, the thought ran through my head that LPL would have been able to pick this lock. Ended up having to get AAA to flat bed my bike back to my house.
Ditto on my E53. Actually, if you look at this lock for this 2014 model, it's pretty much exactly the same as the one in my 2002 -- nothing changed in 12 years! The same "cross" end goes into the plastic door lock mechanism exactly the same way...
All locks are pick able or can be destroyed. They are only something to delay entry to slow the person down. Technically a cars doors don't much matter how strong or good the lock it entry is a broken window away
I have a 2017 VW Passat with a similar looking key but there is no cylinder in the way you have it here, you shove the key in from the bottom and you don't turn it at all. I'd love to see you pick a lock like that some time since it doesn't operate the same way most locks do. (You'd probably have to find the whole door handle for this since you probably would need to tention it with the door handle I supose)
Never heard about that. As far as I know, there is a small hole beneath, but it is used to pry open the cover next to the handle. And behind that cover is an ordinary cylinder like all VWs had in the past
Great channel, interesting videos. But please answer this question. You are shown a lock like this, you do not have the key. Which tool do you use to open it? How many "pins"? Which Lishi tool do you select from the dozens available?
I would like to have had one of those when I recently locked my keys in trunk. Local locksmith could not kome that day and I was abroad, so I went in pharmacy, got some old type blood preasure meter, stuck it between door frame and chasy, opened a bit and fished opening lach with some piece of wire I found... Took me 2 hours...
It seemed like that wafer lock actually had multiple false gates or serrations! So even though they went with simplest possible lock design, they still put some effort to it to make it as hard to pick as possible for the design.
Is it just me whose heart sinks a little at a Lishi Tool video? They look great and all, but they're north of fifty quid a pop and there's dozens of different ones. That's well out of reach of anyone but a professional locksmith or a _really_ dedicated locksporter. I'd love to see videos showing both techniques, the Lishi and then conventional picks. That's gotta be a marketing spin right, see how much easier / faster the Lishis are? Mind you, in LPL's hands perhaps not... 😁
Beat Mazda's back in the 90's. There you just needed another mazda door key. I had one and so did my parrents, a friend also had one and all used the same door key. So then I locked my keys in the car at mall and saw some guy getting into an mazda I asked him if I could borrow his key to unlock the door. He tough I was crazy but agreed, he unlocked the door to his shock it unlocked. Showed him car registration papers and driving license to show I owned the car but he was just looking at the key :)
Working in automotive for 15yrs I ALWAYS thought German cars with their key style must be easy to break into. They all have the same outer size and only the middle groove/track is the "key" part. Always seemed like it would be super easy (with practice) to pick the lock
I’m a big fan of your videos. I own a 2016 BMW M4 so I was surprised to see the title of this video a 2014 M3 lock. To my knowledge, the 2014 model year M3 was only produced and sold in Germany and was not available in North America until the 2015 model year. I was curious how you came across the lock for a 2014? Did one of your German fans send it to you?
Hey LPL I have a question. I've seen there are a variety of Lishi tools on Covert Instruments. My question is how do you know/decide on which Lishi to use on a specific lock? Is it just trial and error? Do you look at the core and then know from that which Lishi it is? How would you do it non-destructively in that case? Thanks.
Hi LPL, I have been trying to open a vintage Lockwood Australia padlock, I understand they are quite hard to pick. After trying to pick and rake it I tried to make shims from a can. Idiotic me managed to break of the lower part of the shim and leave it inside the padlock. I then found the key and surprise! The core is immoveable even with the key and the padlock is now stuck. Any ideas?
You can pick it all you want. Unless you know how to reprogram these cars and you can bypass the CAS along with EWS modules or make another key module for it, you will never drive away with it. Doable, but requires a massive skillset and tools. Older ones, 2006 and under are a bit easier to drive away with if you don’t have a proper key for it.
I've always wondered how LPL would go about picking a lock that he didn't know the exact inner workings of. For instance, if there was a padlock that he didn't know the exact amount of pins in. Obviously for something simple like that, it's as simple as using a standard turning tool and hook, but what about something that needs a specific tool? Or that has a trap for pickers? It could just be my lack of knowledge, but I don't think there's a way to know the exact interior mechanism of a lock without either gutting it or researching it.
With a few exceptions, most locks will fall into one of several common categories. You can tell a lot about them just by looking at the key way on the outside as well as looking into the key way to see what components interact with the key. You can then reach in with a standard hook or flag tool and feel for the elements, such as pins, dimples, or wafers. You can also count the elements as you feel for them. Now that you have a good idea of what you are working with, you can pick your method of attack. Common tools like picks and rakes are quite universal, so you can go to town with those. You can use try out keys or Lishi tools by looking for whichever ones fit the warding on the key way. You can confirm you have the correct kind based on how your tool interacts with it. For try out keys, the pins should contact all at the same time (listen and feel) and the pins should rest on the tips of each bit when the shoulder of the key is butted up against the lock. For a Lishi tool, it has a guide on it to show you which pin/wafer you are interacting with, so when the pick hits a pin, it should line up with that guide. It also shows what the top and bottom of the travel is, which should also line up. As you are picking, you can feel things like security pins or false gates. As you run into them, you adapt your technique to work around them. We've seen LPL do that a thousand times. It all comes down to a process of elimination. Each little clue rules out some of the many potential options. Any discrepancy from what it expected also rules out that option. Eventually you are left with the answer. Finally, you don't have to know exactly what the configuration of the lock is. Once you've narrowed it down enough, the process is the same.
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I’ve always wanted a BMW. Now I know how to get one. Thanks, LPL.
I guess you didn't even watch the vid to the end before doing the very obvious joke...
Lololol
Just imagine you had something like a car attached to the other end of the lock and wouldn't need to set it up in a vice...
All the saved time on picking... :P
Easier ways than that nowadays, but you get the whole car in a matter of seconds
@@vagligeiro You meant left wing
It's a practical attack, in case you locked your wave rakes in the car and need to pick a Masterlock.
😂
Or zip ties
Or tactical milkjug.
Wave rakes?
You are using a Master Lock 141D. It can be opened with a Master Lock 141D.
Or your dentures.
LPL says it’s fairly straightforward to attack, but at his skill level and with a special tool it still took over a minute. That seems pretty secure…
And even older cheaper bmw models have a similar lock. Good job bmw
Straightforward does not necessarily mean fast, although your point about the skill and the tool are valid.
@@cud0seven Opel from 10 years earlier than that have a similar lock and there isn't anything premium about them
you can also use a universal lockpick on the window, which is even faster
It depends.
If that was about a random padlock, yes, but car thieves tend to be way more specialized. It is a guaranteed product on the tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands. Of course I don't think lockpicking if fairly common since cars have alarms and other security systems, but if that is the optimal way to steal a BMW you can expect the average thug to be even faster.
Great work. Now could you teach BMW drivers how to pick their indicator stalks?
Everyone knows BMW's don't have any indicator stalks.
they have to pay a subscription for indicators.
@@SenorGonzo and neither do audi's
I’m finding a complete rash of inoperable indicator stalks across all brands most noticeably BMW and Honda.😞
BMW = bought my wife
So, it took about a minute with a Lishi to get open.
I see this as an absolute win.
And you still have to deal with the electronic alarm and the immobiliser if you plan to steal it.
For the LPL, about a minute is very good.
A lock that will keep LPL fussing around for 60 seconds before it opens is secure enough for anything I'm locking up.
Getting past a mechanical lock is the least of your worries as a BMW owner. You'll get to know your local mechanic very well.
Hey, Always nice to see an m3 customer.
is that because those cars become paper weight when the battery is flat? Like you have to get the computer reprogrammed?
Lol so true!
Your new best friend 🔧🔧🔧
I've owned bmws for the past decade and never had issues
Wow! That wasn't "quick!" It took LPL just over 60 seconds, and that's with the tool that makes it easier *and* with LPL's experience/skill! His time for an average lock is usually around half as long!
That's what I was thinking. Normally he can pick a lock in 10 seconds or so. This took him what; almost a full minute?
Exactly. Undefeatable? No. Requires skills and equipment? Yes.
Not to mention that the lock is mounted in a way that makes it comfortable to get to
I just watched the latest Mission Impossible movie and the entire plot is centered around acquiring a key to unlock something and I couldn't help but think through the entire movie, "Why not just send in LPL? Would make this whole thing a whole lot easier!"
💯💯
Because it'll only 2 minutes long then and charging $20 for a 2 minute video is a ripoff 😂
@@LadyAnuB You think that'll stop them?
The IM team has an "impossible" lock, so they bring in the LPL. He estimates that it will probably take him 5 minutes or so even at his skill level. Unfortunately for him, there are all sorts of deadly assassins and machines that the IM team will need to keep off of him while he works. Just when they think they'll be overwhelmed, LPL gets through...only to find another lock.
Rumour has it that in part deux, the key is accidentally destroyed and LPL makes an entrance.
I remember locking the keys to my BMW Z4 in the trunk one time. This was about 11 years ago. I called a locksmith who could get into BMWs that utilized what was then known as “laser-cut keys.” At that time, I thought it’d be next to impossible for anyone, including a locksmith, to pick the lock. But this guy brought some custom tools, worked on my lock for about 15 minutes, and successfully did the job! It’s really funny to see that the LPL is able to pick such a lock in under a minute, though.
At that time, this type of tool did not exist.
The "laser-cut" has to do with the transponder in the key. Many are "keyed" by using a precision trimmed resistor as part of a timing circuit. A laser is used to cut the resistor to exactly the correct size to get the desired resistance. You can't get that level of precision using the typical bulk methods of creating resistors which, at best, give +/- 1% accuracy.
It's actually pretty impressive that you managed to lock the keys in the trunk. I've owned E34 and E39 BMWs and they were basically impossible to lock the key in the car and very hard to lock the key in the trunk...like open trunk, lock trunk with key, remove key, then toss it in the trunk lol.
Have had several BMWs in the past and always wondered how on earth anyone picked them. Always felt extra safe, since it was a German designed, premium looking lock. I’m just glad he didn’t bring out a “wafer lock raking tool found on covert instruments”!
Yeah, this lock is pretty good, unless you buy this tool I make to break into them lol
You already had your pocket picked when you bought a BMW, so you have more concerning problems to worry about besides someone picking the door lock.
Why would you bother to pick the lock? Use an automatic center punch on the window. Way quicker.
@JCGver anybody can break a window. This is education and knowledge about things that takes more skills than that of a monkey with a rock.
@@JCGver a broken windows is a lot more noticeable and strange looking than a picked lock
For manuals: pop the gear in N, unset the parking brake, and roll it onto a flat bed. Wear safety vests and nobody will realize you're stealing the car.
Well maybe the owner? 😂
For any car just attach the winch cable, skull drag the fucker onto a flat bed, nobody will realise you’ve stolen the car.
Well said. This approach works for bank vaults too. Dress like a team of workmen, carry heavy tools and nobody is asking any questions.
@@David_Crayford Don't forget a ladder .
@@Daniel-Weaver Gotta have a clipboard with a work order
All VAG have inner groove keys too, and can be opened and started with a antenna booster.
That's how they all do it, since people got too lazy to put their key into the dash or steering column.
They emptied my boss's M3 out, steering wheel, airbags, navigation, etc. Took 10mins no witnesses.
Right in front of his house, on the driveway.
BMW doesn't belong to VW though.
@@cyan_oxy6734 That's why I wrote "too"
@@cyan_oxy6734 They often share suppliers like Bosch. Not sure if the do for the locks though. They do use the style lock at least.
LPL is using a HU100 here and the similar HU66 works for VAG products.
@@urlor_jkron Usually they do share the same subset of suppliers, unless it's a special model that they want to promote, like Mercedes have tried to promote their anti-theft measures where they may go out of their way to get non-shelf parts or do things in house. Bu in the vast majority of cases it's the same subset of suppliers being used by most groups within the same regions. Also due to how these suppliers are used to handling the supply chain systems for automakers, smoothes things out.
@@urlor_jkron have a good look on your own key, decent chance it says that it is made by Continental.
*McNally:* You are using a 2014 BMW M3. It can be opened with a 2014 BMW M3...
Sure, if you smash then into each other head on, that'll probably make the locks pop open. Not really a non destructive s with a master lock though.
The lockpicking lawyer finally giving tips on what situations you should break into peoples cars. You love to see it
Option B to get into a car is window pick Mark 1: a big rock.
I always enjoy your videos, and these nifty picks are great, but I do miss watching you pick the old-fashioned way.
agreed, everything is Lishi now. Much less interesting to watch, barely click the new uploads anymore
Nothing like a new clip from LPL to lighten the day
My guess is this is the same lock used on all the F chassis cars and potentially the entire BMW range around 2014. However, the chances of a thief in my city knowing how to pick a lock is minimal.... They'll just smash the window and bank on the slow police response (or no police response at all).
e60, e65 started with those style keys too. i cant recall if my e46 had it. but mid 2000s and since then all bmws had that type of key.
Well, BMW stands for brake-my-window🤣
I usually just tow it away and break the window once it's back at the shop. Ez money
@@MercenarySedYou wouldn't mind if someone were to call some nice men in blue to verify your statement, would you?
@@KainRazielMT they wear black and gray in my city and they're probably in on it tbh. Better hope a rookie responds 🫡🇺🇸
It would actually be interesting to see the difference between a Leishie tool and 'normal' tools, he did say that it would turn a challenging process into a simpler one :)
Who needs a lockpick when you have a brick
Just ordered one, a tech of 16yr and so sick of the usual coat hangar method of towed in cars. Thank you!
Man, gotta tell you. You got a great voice for long-form content. I'm always a bit sad your videos are over so quick. 😂
My 96 Lexus has a similar key. I wondered if the design would make it more secure. Thanks for the video!
Unless you're an actual skilled picker WITH specialized tools(Lechi Pick) a lock like this plenty secure.
If you check the LPL left finger you will see he did counter rotations in all the steps, but he didn't said the "counter rotation in" words. LPL does it easy but you should need a bit of experience to do that ...
Lock picking isnt required, as the vehicle doesnt deadlock. wire through the door jam is all thats needed.
I just love how you show us that everything has its own weaknesses ... and great work on your channel...
I actually have a very similar key for my BMW i4, but the location for the lock's keyway may make the picking more challenging.
To access the keyhole, you need to lift the door handle and hold it up.
This seems like it would make tensioning the lock more difficult since the tension bar would be pointed down away from the handle.
I guess someone could figure out some sort of device to hold the handle up, but then the picking would still be awkward since the tension bar is opposite where it's typically practiced being used.
May be one of those cases where an alternative means of access would prove more viable than specialty picks and customized assistance devices...
Like a large rock.
Tape will hold up the handle. You're welcome.
Great work, love the channel. Just to avoid confusion, that is a HU100R lock and pick. Hu100 is used in vehicles such as Opel/Vauxhall, GM.
I think he was just shortening the name for brevity, as he showed us the tool and name the entire time he was picking. But yes, I understand they are for different cars.
@jimyeats I think it's more that he is not well versed in all of the lishi tools and auto keyway nomenclature yet. As I said, I am not criticising, I am pointing out that hu100 and hu100r are completely different keyways. I dont think the LPL was aware of this at the time and if he was it wouldn't be correct to shorten it's name in that way. There is also a 10 wafer hu100 and an 8 wafer hu100 version of lishi. But neither of them will help you pick a hu100r keyway.
It makes sense that you’re a lawyer. That way you can represent yourself pro se in B&E.
LPL bought a BMW to pry apart the door lock to provide us with this video, what a chad
How else would he spend his youtube millions? Honestly, I would, too.
Scrap yard probably
I've got a few of these lock decoders and they've been very helpful for many things, including getting into locked trunks at junkyards
Not going to lie you make it look so easy so that anyone could do it with that tool. I really want to try now haha
When I was doing AA roadservice, a very common callout was "keys locked in car". A few of the operators had their own sets of Lishi tools but we had to buy our own.
I could never justify the expense as it was an after hours job for only a few hours per week.
I did get to practice a bit with some of the other guys tools and found them great to work with. In saying that, I have opened that particular model of BMW and it took me around 15 to 20 mins! 🤣
In general, I found it easier and faster to use my air wedge and lockout kit. The only reason I tried picks on that car was that the owner did not want any forcing applied to the door frame or tools inserted past the door frame seals.
It's a matter of skill clearly. If there are option A and option B and you only trained in one of them, then whether it is superior or inferior, usually you will be better at it than in the other one by lone fact of having the experience. This affects everything that is highly skill-dependent.
If you actually trained with the Lishi tools to 'master' them, you would probably have little issue unlocking doors in far shorter time and maybe it would take you less time than with the normal sets.
Though, if it works for you, there's no real reason to change it I guess. I don't have the impression it's the kind of job where the method matters that much compared to the outcome, so as long as you don't leave damage with your preferred tools, it's all OK.
The driver's door lock is probably all of a BMW my money can buy.
Great narration. I appreciate your skill but hearing you explain it makes it worth my Subscription.
Mannnnn I just got this car😭😭
Thanks for the info , can you please post your address and where you park your car , just for educational purposes 😊
@@ajay9561 too late bro the lockpicking lawyer already took my shit
@@dratsk2735 humm 🥲 , do you know where he park the car and address pls , again for educational purposes only ☺️
Where do you live
@@dratsk2735 So its from your car he got the lock to the video? :O
I did roadside for a few years and keys locked in car was so common, we all feared BMW locks, not because they were any harder to pick than others, but because they were often stuffed. they're really not designed to be used.
I had the same thing with my smart car. The keyway is never used and it even has a plug in it. The one day the battery died I had to use the key in it. The plug was completed rusted in to the keyway. We ended up having to pry out the plug and busting up part of the trim around the keyway in the process.
Mate u deserve a Nobel prize for lockpicking
"This is the LockPickingLawyer, and what I have for you today is the insides of your walls."
-It took lockpicking lawyer about 90 seconds, plus a special tool
-S tier lock
Physical security on a car will always be a compromise. It can't be a tank. You need to be able to extract passengers if there's a crash, and you have to keep cost and weight down.
Defense-in-depth.
Solid lock backed up by options - BMW takes security seriously.
I see you glaring at Kia and Hyundai. 🤣🤣
well depends, I met few people that wouldnt agree with this statement. It seems there is some kind of exploit (In quite recent and expensive BMW machines) that allows thiefs to literally disassemble interior of car without any reaction of security systems. They even took steering wheel.
" All VAG have inner groove keys too, and can be opened and started with a antenna booster.
That's how they all do it, since people got too lazy to put their key into the dash or steering column.
They emptied my boss's M3 out, steering wheel, airbags, navigation, etc. Took 10mins no witnesses.
Right in front of his house, on the driveway"
according to this they don't
@@jonathanwieringa8808to make this u need something to broke window and high quality wire cutter, broke window open trunk remove battery and u have all time u need.
@@jonathanwieringa8808 Speed of light calculations should tell the computer that the key fob can't be inside the vehicle even if the signal is great enough. Any repeater in use will make that even more obvious. It's not like light is very fast compared to CPU clocks.
I always figured a lishi tool was just a type of lock pick. Didn't realize it's a Chinese brand lol
is this real? :o
Lishi is the Chinese guys name who designed it
That must have been his face on the tool at the end of the video.
That's Mao@@gdietz2
looks Japanese
"a fairly ohdinary"
I love when the accent slips!
These cars are easier to steal via software defined radio. Also, that lock is from a 335/340i not an M3. F8x M3 was not available in Estoril Blue II which is what this is painted. Not that it matters because it’s the same lock, but in the interest of accuracy.
repainted maybe?
@@prcervi I kind of doubt it. It's probably just from an M335i/M340i.
Love watching these vids. It's just interesting to see how he gets into all these locks. Tbh, I learned quite a bit and want to add lock picking to my skill set now so if I'm ever locked out of my house or car or really anything, I won't have to rely on a locksmith.
Because you'll have forgotten your keys but you'll have your lock-picking tools set conveniently at hand?
@@UntakenNick fair point, well maybe not if I'm locked out of my car but if I leave them in my car instead I might still be able to get into my house. Plus some locks can be picked with very basic shit too.
Wow i never knew how nice my neighbor's car is thanks 👍
Great demonstration thanks.
I once locked my keys in my 2018 F250... while it was running... out in Nowhere, TX. Worst part... I had my Ford door code stored on my phone... but my phone was in the truck too! This was at 10:30 at night. Luckily I had one get-out-of-jail-free locksmith call via my extended warranty (IIRC) but it took the guy an hour to get there. He used an inflatable bag to pry open the door a crack, then stuck a stick in and opened the door. Lesson: write your code on a card and keep it in your wallet, if you have a wallet. Or... tattoo it to your hand. Ford could not give me the code on the phone.
“This is the Lock-picking Lawyer and today I’ve got a gift from my friend”
Wrist, Wrist, Wrist, We are on a list.
For one of the first times ever, a video that doesn’t help thieves lol
My 2016 Chevy van has a lock like that. I had to replace the ignition switch and to do that the ignition lock has to come out. It's also a wafer lock that seemed almost comical. Very cheap. The van also won't do anything unless you have a real key. Electronic ignition switch sensor. Be sure to note the timing on the ignition switch gear. You'll need to get that right to start the truck again. I must have tried 6 or 7 times before I got that right.
BTW, if you own a 2015+ GM van and it's giving you trouble starting, replace the ignition switch and start with the relays under the hood. So far I've had 3 relays go bad. Since then, it's as good as gold. Window relay went bad first. Ignition and EGR relay went bad later. You also can't buy them at the auto store. Make sure you have spares.
Locksmiths use this tool to open and make mechanical keys to the lock. There are many immobiliser systems in these vehicles. EWS was the first, that had several versions, then there was CAS then FEM. Transponders/remotes could be generated using a variety of tools these vehicles, until the G-series of vehicles approx.. 2018ish. At this time only dealer keys can be obtained in a lost or extra key situation. Even relay attacks are thwarted as the proximity keys shut down when they are not being moved about. Along with Mercedes FBS4 these are the most electronically secure of vehicles. IMHO
Lishi picks have to be every lock makers worst nightmare.
Impressive actually! Congratulations on P'WNING another big-wig companies locks!!😎🎉
Damn that fresh BMW M3 parked in the hood looks extra juicy today
The right tool for the right job.
Takes about as long to get in to a BMW with a rod and air bladder through the top of the door frame as long as the battery has enough voltage. Don't have to worry about the alarm that way either.
I have a BMW car and a couple of BMW motorcycles. The motorcycles use the same type of lock for the ignition cylinder. About a year or so ago, I was at the beach with one of my BMW motorcycles where I accidentally locked the key in the under seat storage compartment. To open the compartment, I needed that key for the ignition cylinder that also doubles to open the storage compartment and gas cap. Contacted a locksmith who came out to try to pick the lock. He spent maybe a 30 seconds on it and gave up.
At that point, the thought ran through my head that LPL would have been able to pick this lock. Ended up having to get AAA to flat bed my bike back to my house.
He is doing side missions now
I had to rebuild my lock on my old E46 a few times and what I learned was they are surprisingly unsophisticated locks for what is a luxury vehicle.
Same here. Had a price break inside of the mechanism and I had to take it apart and rebuild it. Surprisingly (and slightly alarmingly) simple
Ditto on my E53. Actually, if you look at this lock for this 2014 model, it's pretty much exactly the same as the one in my 2002 -- nothing changed in 12 years! The same "cross" end goes into the plastic door lock mechanism exactly the same way...
My partner says "little click out of three" to get me in the mood.
I read chinese.. and on the end of the tool it reads...
"It was not a fluke"
Guys I just got one of my dream cars! Some idiot left in in a parking lot unattended and I just took it lol! Truly a blessing 🙏
All locks are pick able or can be destroyed. They are only something to delay entry to slow the person down. Technically a cars doors don't much matter how strong or good the lock it entry is a broken window away
That went faster than the ad youtube put in front of it
These cars are a pain if all you have is the fob and the battery is dead. Getting the hood open is a real chore.
I have a 2017 VW Passat with a similar looking key but there is no cylinder in the way you have it here, you shove the key in from the bottom and you don't turn it at all. I'd love to see you pick a lock like that some time since it doesn't operate the same way most locks do. (You'd probably have to find the whole door handle for this since you probably would need to tention it with the door handle I supose)
Never heard about that. As far as I know, there is a small hole beneath, but it is used to pry open the cover next to the handle.
And behind that cover is an ordinary cylinder like all VWs had in the past
@@bernds6587 Oh that might be it. I honestly never used it and had assumed that it was some weird kind of lock. Thanks for the info
Great work ❤
Thanks for helpin tha brothas out...peace!
Dang, it looks similar to my backup key. Congrats on your new M3. Lol
In other words. "I, LPL, am not liable for any related theft."
Lol
Wish I would have known this before. Also do not forget your keys in your trunk.
Li Zhiqin is the tool developer imaged on the tool. A master.
teaches you to steal bmw, and also helps you get out of jail when you get caught, legend
I just picked my friends M3 using your product, now he’s upset 😂
Great channel, interesting videos. But please answer this question. You are shown a lock like this, you do not have the key. Which tool do you use to open it? How many "pins"? Which Lishi tool do you select from the dozens available?
I would like to have had one of those when I recently locked my keys in trunk. Local locksmith could not kome that day and I was abroad, so I went in pharmacy, got some old type blood preasure meter, stuck it between door frame and chasy, opened a bit and fished opening lach with some piece of wire I found... Took me 2 hours...
It seemed like that wafer lock actually had multiple false gates or serrations! So even though they went with simplest possible lock design, they still put some effort to it to make it as hard to pick as possible for the design.
Thanks for teaching the world how to steal my car 🥰
how many takes do your videos take usually? not doubting your skill at all i just find it interesting that you always do zero cut videos
Is it just me whose heart sinks a little at a Lishi Tool video? They look great and all, but they're north of fifty quid a pop and there's dozens of different ones. That's well out of reach of anyone but a professional locksmith or a _really_ dedicated locksporter.
I'd love to see videos showing both techniques, the Lishi and then conventional picks. That's gotta be a marketing spin right, see how much easier / faster the Lishis are? Mind you, in LPL's hands perhaps not... 😁
God damnit, I just bought a 2014 BMW X5 and the key is extremely similar to that. Good to know I won't have my car for long.
Carlocks are almost all ridiculously simple on the inside. It’s the electronic part (sensors etc) that make them somewhat safe.
@lockpickinglawyer Have you ever tried one of those alarm padlocks? One brand i saw was crystal vision.
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Beat Mazda's back in the 90's. There you just needed another mazda door key. I had one and so did my parrents, a friend also had one and all used the same door key.
So then I locked my keys in the car at mall and saw some guy getting into an mazda I asked him if I could borrow his key to unlock the door.
He tough I was crazy but agreed, he unlocked the door to his shock it unlocked.
Showed him car registration papers and driving license to show I owned the car but he was just looking at the key :)
Working in automotive for 15yrs I ALWAYS thought German cars with their key style must be easy to break into. They all have the same outer size and only the middle groove/track is the "key" part. Always seemed like it would be super easy (with practice) to pick the lock
I’m a big fan of your videos. I own a 2016 BMW M4 so I was surprised to see the title of this video a 2014 M3 lock. To my knowledge, the 2014 model year M3 was only produced and sold in Germany and was not available in North America until the 2015 model year. I was curious how you came across the lock for a 2014? Did one of your German fans send it to you?
2:22 sure it has a alarm but that is irrelevant if you target isn't the car.
Basically all car looks will require this tool
Hey LPL I have a question. I've seen there are a variety of Lishi tools on Covert Instruments. My question is how do you know/decide on which Lishi to use on a specific lock? Is it just trial and error? Do you look at the core and then know from that which Lishi it is? How would you do it non-destructively in that case?
Thanks.
I love how this was sponsored by AUDI om my UA-cam.
2:15 aka don't try to steal a car with just this
Hi LPL, I have been trying to open a vintage Lockwood Australia padlock, I understand they are quite hard to pick. After trying to pick and rake it I tried to make shims from a can. Idiotic me managed to break of the lower part of the shim and leave it inside the padlock. I then found the key and surprise! The core is immoveable even with the key and the padlock is now stuck. Any ideas?
You can pick it all you want. Unless you know how to reprogram these cars and you can bypass the CAS along with EWS modules or make another key module for it, you will never drive away with it. Doable, but requires a massive skillset and tools. Older ones, 2006 and under are a bit easier to drive away with if you don’t have a proper key for it.
Covert instruments 😎👌👍
I've always wondered how LPL would go about picking a lock that he didn't know the exact inner workings of. For instance, if there was a padlock that he didn't know the exact amount of pins in. Obviously for something simple like that, it's as simple as using a standard turning tool and hook, but what about something that needs a specific tool? Or that has a trap for pickers? It could just be my lack of knowledge, but I don't think there's a way to know the exact interior mechanism of a lock without either gutting it or researching it.
With a few exceptions, most locks will fall into one of several common categories. You can tell a lot about them just by looking at the key way on the outside as well as looking into the key way to see what components interact with the key. You can then reach in with a standard hook or flag tool and feel for the elements, such as pins, dimples, or wafers. You can also count the elements as you feel for them.
Now that you have a good idea of what you are working with, you can pick your method of attack. Common tools like picks and rakes are quite universal, so you can go to town with those. You can use try out keys or Lishi tools by looking for whichever ones fit the warding on the key way. You can confirm you have the correct kind based on how your tool interacts with it. For try out keys, the pins should contact all at the same time (listen and feel) and the pins should rest on the tips of each bit when the shoulder of the key is butted up against the lock. For a Lishi tool, it has a guide on it to show you which pin/wafer you are interacting with, so when the pick hits a pin, it should line up with that guide. It also shows what the top and bottom of the travel is, which should also line up.
As you are picking, you can feel things like security pins or false gates. As you run into them, you adapt your technique to work around them. We've seen LPL do that a thousand times.
It all comes down to a process of elimination. Each little clue rules out some of the many potential options. Any discrepancy from what it expected also rules out that option. Eventually you are left with the answer.
Finally, you don't have to know exactly what the configuration of the lock is. Once you've narrowed it down enough, the process is the same.
@@reverse_engineered Thanks for explaining! I did figure it was some sort of process of elimination, but it's nice to have confirmation.
Great video!😸
What’s the most famous light in BMW ?
The “check engine” light
Can confirm.
👍👌👏 again and as always. Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards, luck and health in particular.