I like metals but it’s actually the same, also built on faith. The metal itself is quite useless. You can’t use it to start fire, you can’t consume it, you can’t build a house with it.
@@joefromnorwich That is not what gives gold it’s value at all. Gold has been valued for thousands of years, but is only being used in computers and phones the last 50 or so years.
@@robertb6926 you said "the metal itself is quite useless"... Golds use has expanded from its age old use as an ornamental material to its additional use in electronics.... which is exponentially increasing in demand year on year.
Faith? The Bible says this life is temporary & that one day people will throw their gold & silver in the street, bc it was worthless. Money in any form is a tool, so put many tools in your box😁
I really like your videos. I also like buying the small 1g to 5g gold bars. When people say it isn't worth it due to higher premiums, they don't realize that you DO get those premiums back when you sell! (Like you mentioned). For those of us who are not wealthy and appreciate real money, this is the way to go. And yes, I think PAMP is best, followed by Valcambi. Thanks for your videos! ;-)
What a wonderful observation which helps me to feel better about buying the fractional gold. I never thought about about how much easier it will be to liquidate those vs full oz and bigger as well as the market demanding a high premium once the spot price reaches future highs. It's really not a bad choice although so many stacker channels always say the smartest is to go larger for lower premium which is true but for the purpose of high prices,the fractional will be more than easy to convert. Thanks for sharing your insight
@@TangibleLife and I see the 1/10 are actually a favorite size of stackers somewhere I read; the number 2 choice of consumers. So that alone makes them optimal! Ppl should harp on these points more because it's just not discussed often like this.
Another very viable reason to hold small bars instead of big ones, and I'm saying this very seriously, in case of some emergency scenario where you need to buy food/pay for transport/whatever and economy is in tatters, it's much easier to have lets say 10 bars of 1 gram than one 10 gram bar. Not to say you shouldn't get any of the bigger ones, but you should have a fair portion of small ones as well.
I’ve got 40x 1g gold bars, bought for £33.50 each a few years ago. Bargain! Really good for when we go to a digital currency and we want to buy/sell outside of the matrix.
Exactly. Certified. Small. In time of swift action. Nobody will change a kilo bar or phantasy coins. Just 2.5 or 5 grams certified are like an internal preloaded debit card of universal liquidity. Smart.
just bought my first 3 bars, hoping to keep doing this, but I advice only to do this if you can actually spare the money. Gold is not that easy to liquidate, so keep a max of 20-25% of your savings in gold
@@skrtlxrd1283 Absolutely. There is a slightly higher premium but you get the best quality. And many years down the line you will have more more ease selling a Royal Mint bar then say a privately forged one. I recommend.
Great video! I’m in total agreement. If I had a large sum of money I wouldn’t bother with sovereigns at all. I’d just buy as many 1gm gold bars as I could afford. Plus the more you buy in bulk the premium goes down. But you can also still sell them ‘with’ the premium you didn’t have to stump up for. The great thing about these 1 gram gold bars is that they are closer to real money. They are not too dissimilar from a £50 note in value. It’s cash/currency but it’s also investment/bullion. It’s also a unit that is used throughout the world. Imagine being up shit creek in the middle of nowhere but you remembered to bring your 1 gram gold bar with you. That £50 - £100’s worth will get you out of the shit. Try selling a gold sovereign to a random when you’re desperate. In a poorer country it’d be even worse. 1 grams bars all the way!
I make nice mens leather belts with a couple of inside pocket slips to carry several thousand dollars of gold at any time or anywhere you go, nobody can tell you have them, the coin slips inside a tight slip and won't slide out even if you pull your belt off your jeans, one man wanted me to make his capable of carrying 1-1toz gold plus 1-1oz platinum and 1-1toz silver coin at all times
Yea I agree somewhat but then again so many ppl are skeptical these days and you'd have to go get it checked or they'd want a deal because they will say they are taking a risk. I have some myself but hope not to get into a situation like that anytime soon lol
Got three grams of Suisse Pamp. I know the premium is high. But I am in over the long, and my goal is to buy 10 grams, then a gram and a half. My ultimate goal is to get to 2,000 dollars, then invest a portion into a Gold I.R.A. This is fun and fascinating to me.
@@AB-eg3nq because there is more labor connected to the smaller "bars", so you get charged more per gram, for example it would cost 20% more to buy 100x 1g ingot vs 1x 100g ingot. The 100g ingot is however much less liquid meaning it would be easier to find 100 people with each of them buying 1g vs finding 1 person that would buy the whole 100g ingot.
@@marcelkubicek8829 It also depends on to who you want to sell it. If you're selling it do dealers, yeah you will get the spot price or less. But if you sell it to someone else, there are plenty of people who want to buy a 1 gram bar with premium.
Gold is probably due another sharp retraction in the coming weeks (like the drop of 7% this week) after that I think that the $1800/$1900's range will be the norm... no more Gold at $1200. Some analysts are even saying $15,000 Gold by 2025 but there will of course be sharp retrations along the way - stay frosty!
@@themechanic7732 Bitcoin is just going up. I'd buy it if I were you. I said no i'm good when it was like $20 a coin and now it's nearly $20,000 a coin. Have a good day :D
Simply, just purchase whatever size you can afford at that period of time. More importantly buy whatever brand / country coins you like, high chances the coins / bar you like most will kept with you for long of period of time.
Long story short, if you got big stack of cash in your hands then you go for it and get the largest gold bar as possible to save some premium, but if you are saving regulary like 200-500 dollars a month then you go for the fractional bars and coins. But important to remember, you never ever go for fractional if you got a huge cash at one moment, cuz i know many people who love to spend their 10K with many fractional bars rather than getting one bar for the same amount. They always ended up paying 20g worth of premium for their behaviors!
I just started collecting I’m from Canada, prices are through the roof. I just watched a Jacoje video where he got a 10g fortuna for 430 USD and that was 4 years ago. I basically pay the same for 6g
Hi Brian, Yes I know it can be a bit crushing but it will be the same for people starting in 10 years from now. Look at it like this: you could be paying August 2020 $2100 oz prices (I think $1900 will be the new base soon), so what your buying now is not that bad in the grand scheme!
Yes good point. People forget that 1g, 2.5g, 5g bars are a lot of money for many people and they will pay a premium but will nearly always get that premium back when selling on (premium in, premium out). The proof is on eBay at any point you can see small bars will go for 25% + over spot all day long.
My one oz Pamp ounce came from Apmex and they have a very good reputation. That might be one of the most important factors as Apmex cannot afford to damage their reputation with fake bars or coins.
The problem with small bars like these is the premiums are really high as a percentage of the total cost to purchase. A one ounce bar or coin would have a smaller premium. I believe I read that in the UK silver is assessed sales tax on purchases but gold is not. Are British issued silver coins tax exempt? If so, I would recommend buying one ounce silver coins if you have limited funds instead of these high premium gold bars. Oh, and don't buy any bars off of Ebay. You're just asking to be scammed. Stick with known coin dealers.
I think the premium is only an issue if you are trying to flip Gold in the short term based on performance. If you are holding for 5 years its not an issue. I try to have a split of Gold in my portfolio that is for quick gains when prices rise to liquidate quickly with profit, and the other buys are long term investments.
New sub. I absolutely agree with fractionals and bars at that. Its what i can afford. It will increase in value and my stacking is for my sons. Premium and cost will not matter to them, since they will have no cost involved! Thanks for the great information.
Hi, Yup I am Gold stacker 24k bars only. I buy fractional Gold bars 11 month then 12 month I buy 2 big bars. According to my budget. Planning to stack fractional Gold bars atleast 50 grams to 100 grams. And big bars 10 TOLAS bars
Buying less than 1oz gold is good for when the apocalypse happens but a really poor choice for wealth building over the long haul. The premiums are simply too high.
Buying small isn't a waste of time. You will pay more in the long haul though. 5g is the smallest I buy unless I want to make a pendant. Like the Argor Haraeus Linear. It comes in 1 and 2 gram sizes. Its beautiful. Beauty only makes it harder to part with. I may start buying Valcambi only in the future
I'm 29 almost 30, been thinking if I should start a private pension scheme or spend that same amount of money each month on gold bar's? Thinking £60-120 a month on bars. Think this is a good idea? Also which websites do you recommend? Also is silver bars also good investment?
Hi, I would try and do both. I think given current climate I would like to have at least 10% of my wealth in physical Gold. If you can afford around £150 pm on Metals then that would be a great start. I think 10% of your allocation could go on Silver. For example one might buy a single 2.5g Gold bar (or 2 x 1g bars) and a 1oz 999 Silver coin for around that price. I think if you go much less it's going to take a long time to accumulate anything worth having in the timeframe you have. You must make sure you can afford to keep your investments for the long term and not overextend and have to sell the what you've built up a few years later to pay a bill or something, that would be gutting. If you are in the UK I have always had a good service from www.gold.co.uk/accounts/login/?referral_code=DI8ERTS5
@@TangibleLife thanks for your help, I'm thinking of silver and gold. Platinum also worth doing? It is for the long run. Thinking of doing it for the next 30-40 years without selling it. That long enough to be worth saving it up
@rishi patel I'm a low earner so my company I work for only pays into a pension for me when they give me enough hours to add me to the pension scheme. So it isn't often they add too it.
@@josephbrown3647 I am in a similar situation as you, going to buy a a few gold bars every year until i go inte pension, btw don't they have some state sponsored minimum level pension in UK? I have in sweden but it is very low and not guaranteed it will be around in 30-35 years
@@allanballan275 we pay a small amount of money from your wages into a pension. There are private pensions also to help top it up. But with how it goes I won't get a pension until I'm in my 70's so it is so far away. I think the gold will definitely help me in the later years to allow me to enjoy life during retirement
Got me some gold and decent amount of silver - the silver im willing to sell easier than the gold Ancient time people believed the more gold you had the more wealth you attracted in your life Gold would have to be at 3-4,000 a oz for me to sell mind or unless got in tough times
Most people can’t afford to purchase more than 1g or 2.5g of gold at one time. Plus it’s a lot easier to use them or if you need to sell a few in emergencies. You won’t be forced to sell a larger bar. The value will go up over time, but the inflation of Fiat currencies around the world are destroying your savings everyday. These are a solid insurance for hard times. Brass and copper jacketed lead are quickly becoming rare and precise metals in 🇺🇸.
Forget it, premiums on small bars are horribly high. Never buy any gold over 3% premium, if you can get 1g, 2,5g gold bars for such pricing okay sure why not, but most likely you will see them for 10-15% markup and that is catastrophing as an investment. Cheap coins like LMU 5,81g fine gold can be bought for under 2%, save up enough worthless paper dollars until you can afford one, its the better deal.
Premium is a theoretical value, just look at silver, spot price of silver is unpegged from physical bullion price. I say this, because in realmlife what matters most about a gold piece is affordability and buyback performance. Premium means nothing if you can resale a gold piece making a good profit or taking a small los if you had to sell too soon because of an emergency. 5gram bars hace excellent buyback performance, and I stack those. I might stack one gram and 2.5 if I prove they are profitable and liquid enough by making selling experiment. Also, keep in mind govts will have a tighter grip on our money the more we move into digital, and in the year 2040, pulling out cash from an ATM or transfering cash for a full ounce of gold will NOT go unnoticed by the authorities, they will try to chip into your transaction with some tax or ban or restriction.
So say in 10 years time the price is good and you want to sell, what would be your process? Where would you sell bars of gold etc? I’ll never get into this but I enjoy watching and always wondered, like, I’m guessing you’re not just gonna throw em on eBay?
Hi there - dam right I'm gonna throw them on eBay, as eBay is probably the largest coin market place on the web. I'm selling 1g gold bars that I paid £45 for 3 months ago for £70/£80 today on eBay when spot is only £47. People could actually but from a bullion dealer for less than eBay, and that is because demand is so high at the moment - and dealers have supply issues. In 10 years the same £45 should be at least £65 if not doubled judging by the way things are going with Covid, endless money printing, Gold backed cryptos, Mining supply issues and on eBay than means near £100.. better return than sticking it in the bank and hoping for 15% interest rates which will never happen in our lifetime... although the downside is that there is always risk attached to buying Gold...
In the UK buying small gold bars is probably not the best investment UK Gold coins are CGT exempt whilst bars are not . Premiums on bars tend to be higher than sovereigns and Britannia coins too. CGT allowances are rumoured to be slashed to pay for corovirus debt so it's even more important.
Thanks you make good points. I think you have to bear in mind some people might struggle to afford even 1/10 Gold coin, so 1g, 2,5g bars offer some entry into Gold stacking without costing the earth, and I believe stacking one or two 1g Gold bars a month is better than none (or spending it on junk).
@@noodlyappendage6729 I'm rubbish at calculating premiums but looking at Atkinson's bullion. 3* 1g bars £ 196. 1/10 Britannia is £162 so you save £34 and have an extra .11g of gold if you went Britannia plus you would be CGT exempt when coming to sell .
Are the Pamp bars usually smaller in size versus the RCM bars? I got two oz of each and was shocked when comparing the size of both 1 oz bars that appear to be the same thickness, why is the Pamp 1 oz looking half the size of the RCM 1 oz bar? Ordered them all from Costco , could Costco sell fakes in this case or it it normal for them to look much smaller then other 1 oz bar brands?
1g of gold cost twice more than an ounce of silver. I believe 1g of gold is equal to about $57. 1kilo is $57k... in 2 to 3 years if the gold price doubles then your gold is worth $100k+. Start investing now.
Doesn't the premium kind of not matter since you can sell it with the premium included? ie. Let's say you bought a fractional with 5% premium, can't I sell it with market price at 5%? I am new which is why I am curious
You could open one one time to get it out your system but I would strongly advise not to remove or tamper with the packaging due to future resale issues.
I know this video is last year, but i cannot get my head round the fact that if you buy the physical gold from these bullion companies in the small quantities mentioned, you are paying a premium on the actual price of the gold of about 20-25%, if you need to liquidate them they will only buy it back at roughly the spot price. Tell me if i am wrong but unless you are thinking of a very very long investment game or buying 1KG bars, you are just lining these bullion co's coffers
They are good investments but Gold is the most well known to the retail sector and practical to stack and sell on in the future - have you ever tried selling Platinum on the secondhand retail market about 5% of the market size compared to Gold and Silver.
@@TangibleLife true.. and no i have not.I did start stacking silver with the current price drop from the 2 year old sideways range. I plan to increase my stacking as/if tha price drops below $16/oz.
The mark up when you buy 1g comes to around 68 pounds when the actual price of a gram is around 43 pounds is this not a problem when it comes to re selling as you could only sell 1g for the market price.. When to buy it online you have paid the mark up? I do not really get it. Any one can help me to understand? Thanks A 2.5 gram bar is around 137 pounds at the moment so slightly better I guess but I do not understand how paying such a mark up on 1 grams is a good idea.
Hi Boku.. because someone else will be picking up that premium when you sell it on in 5 to 10 years time. Show me 1 gram of Gold for sale anywhere on the Internet at spot price? IF you have to fire-sale your 1g to a coin dealer a week after purchasing it then sure you will get burned.
Exactly that’s why you hold it for years to come when spot price for a gram is way above 68, I bought a gram for 62 the other week I will not sell that bar till spot is 62 or more or someone willing to pay me a mad offer
Hey please could I ask for your opinion? Would you buy 1g gold now or save up for a 2.5g but by that time, the price may have gone up? Or would you buy silver instead right now? Thanks in advance ☺️
Hi Amy, Good question. Firstly I would make sure that whatever you buy now you can afford to keep for at least 1-3 years. If it was me there is a dip in Gold price at the moment, so if you can get a 2.5g quite soon I would say it would be a little better. But 1g Gold bar is also just fine. Silver is good, so you could get a 1g Gold and a couple ounces of Silver for around the same price as a 2.5g Gold bar.
@@KakashiH318 If it was me I would jump in now. At the time of writing 10g Gold is about $600 USD so even if the market had a sudden pull back of 15% (which would be highly unlikely) you would only be saving $90, but the way things are heading (dollar weak at moment (91.2) I would say one has more chance of begin more gutted that it moves up 25% in the next few weeks and your looking at $750+ for the same bar. Make sure you can afford to hold this investment for at least 6-12 months. I think sub $1800 is a good buy - I'm buying!
For starting in gold I'd do fractional gold coins, 1/4 oz preferred but you can also do 1/10 oz. They'll retain their premiums and can resell them to trade up to 1/2 oz or 1 oz coins.
I look at it like this if a nations currency tanks at least you know gold retains its value, prime example of this is Venezuela, their money is worthless but those that may have gold have something to barter with.
What are your thoughts on Heraeus, Umicore and Metalor gold bars? I like Pamp too but my bullion dealer has never sent me a Pamp bar. Like you I buy the small units as well, it's all I can afford and indeed easy to liquidate in an emergency.
All the Heraeus and Umicore bars I have are great, have had no issues when selling on they are as far as I know very reputable. As I'm from the UK my personal favorite Gold (or Silver) bars are Royal Mint but I do mainly buy Pamp. At the end of the day if its 999.9 pure I'm happy with it, I'm not going to turn down a good deal on Gold bar just because I don't like the mint.
What is a trustful sites I can order from and what way you recommend to purchase through? And do they give receipt? Is it real gold when I want to sell it not fake ?
Remember folks gold and silver is real currency not built on faith “ I’m just saying “
I like metals but it’s actually the same, also built on faith. The metal itself is quite useless. You can’t use it to start fire, you can’t consume it, you can’t build a house with it.
@@robertb6926 whatever you watched this video on wouldnt work if you removed the gold from inside of it.....
@@joefromnorwich That is not what gives gold it’s value at all. Gold has been valued for thousands of years, but is only being used in computers and phones the last 50 or so years.
@@robertb6926 you said "the metal itself is quite useless"...
Golds use has expanded from its age old use as an ornamental material to its additional use in electronics.... which is exponentially increasing in demand year on year.
Faith? The Bible says this life is temporary & that one day people will throw their gold & silver in the street, bc it was worthless. Money in any form is a tool, so put many tools in your box😁
I really like your videos. I also like buying the small 1g to 5g gold bars. When people say it isn't worth it due to higher premiums, they don't realize that you DO get those premiums back when you sell! (Like you mentioned). For those of us who are not wealthy and appreciate real money, this is the way to go. And yes, I think PAMP is best, followed by Valcambi. Thanks for your videos! ;-)
Thank you, much appreciated.
And metalor
Who else collecting precious metals bc of the pandemic?
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Nah. I brought the 1g bar
Just got 4 one oz. gold coins... wouldn’t mind getting some bars as well though...
Where do you guys buy them
@@techtime999-9 sdbullion.com for me...
Purchased a 2.5..weeeee we weeeeeeee wee
What a wonderful observation which helps me to feel better about buying the fractional gold. I never thought about about how much easier it will be to liquidate those vs full oz and bigger as well as the market demanding a high premium once the spot price reaches future highs. It's really not a bad choice although so many stacker channels always say the smartest is to go larger for lower premium which is true but for the purpose of high prices,the fractional will be more than easy to convert. Thanks for sharing your insight
Thank you. I think personally 1/10 and 1/4 ounce is probably optimum.. their enough but not to much
@@TangibleLife and I see the 1/10 are actually a favorite size of stackers somewhere I read; the number 2 choice of consumers. So that alone makes them optimal! Ppl should harp on these points more because it's just not discussed often like this.
Another very viable reason to hold small bars instead of big ones, and I'm saying this very seriously, in case of some emergency scenario where you need to buy food/pay for transport/whatever and economy is in tatters, it's much easier to have lets say 10 bars of 1 gram than one 10 gram bar. Not to say you shouldn't get any of the bigger ones, but you should have a fair portion of small ones as well.
Yes very good point. 1g bar will be easier to pay for smaller items like food or fuel.
@@TangibleLife Yep
I agree with this. Also like to add that silver would be a good option to barter with as well
I appreciate this outlook.
I’ve got 40x 1g gold bars, bought for £33.50 each a few years ago. Bargain! Really good for when we go to a digital currency and we want to buy/sell outside of the matrix.
Wow what a great great price! Its funny, we just need a temporary "mini crash" so we can get in again before $2000+ is the new norm.
THIS!
That's a great price, everywhere i look now 1g bars are €75 minimum
@@stanpines9011nuggets and grains are much lower so you can buy that and stack
Exactly. Certified. Small. In time of swift action. Nobody will change a kilo bar or phantasy coins. Just 2.5 or 5 grams certified are like an internal preloaded debit card of universal liquidity. Smart.
Yes I think it could work like that in the future for 1g, 2.5, 5g bars definitely.
just bought my first 3 bars, hoping to keep doing this, but I advice only to do this if you can actually spare the money. Gold is not that easy to liquidate, so keep a max of 20-25% of your savings in gold
Good advice
Well said! I’ve just ordered my first 1g Gold Bullion from the Royal Mint! Very excited to invest and start my collection.
I’m thinking of investing with the royal mint. Would you recommend them?
I ordered 10 1g gold bars
@@skrtlxrd1283 Absolutely. There is a slightly higher premium but you get the best quality. And many years down the line you will have more more ease selling a Royal Mint bar then say a privately forged one. I recommend.
Great video! I’m in total agreement. If I had a large sum of money I wouldn’t bother with sovereigns at all. I’d just buy as many 1gm gold bars as I could afford. Plus the more you buy in bulk the premium goes down. But you can also still sell them ‘with’ the premium you didn’t have to stump up for. The great thing about these 1 gram gold bars is that they are closer to real money. They are not too dissimilar from a £50 note in value. It’s cash/currency but it’s also investment/bullion. It’s also a unit that is used throughout the world. Imagine being up shit creek in the middle of nowhere but you remembered to bring your 1 gram gold bar with you. That £50 - £100’s worth will get you out of the shit. Try selling a gold sovereign to a random when you’re desperate. In a poorer country it’d be even worse. 1 grams bars all the way!
I make nice mens leather belts with a couple of inside pocket slips to carry several thousand dollars of gold at any time or anywhere you go, nobody can tell you have them, the coin slips inside a tight slip and won't slide out even if you pull your belt off your jeans, one man wanted me to make his capable of carrying 1-1toz gold plus 1-1oz platinum and 1-1toz silver coin at all times
How can I purchase one of those belts I will pay you with a money order
Yea I agree somewhat but then again so many ppl are skeptical these days and you'd have to go get it checked or they'd want a deal because they will say they are taking a risk. I have some myself but hope not to get into a situation like that anytime soon lol
you do realise sovs are £1 coins, fiat didn't keep up, that's all, feel a sov and you instinctively can tell it's real money.
Nice collection of fractional gold bars, thanks for sharing :) the PAMP Lady Fortuna bars are really beautiful
Got my first gold bar 1g I’m very excited!
Well done!
i did not know how to spot a fake gold before i do now thank you.🤔🤗
Got three grams of Suisse Pamp. I know the premium is high. But I am in over the long, and my goal is to buy 10 grams, then a gram and a half. My ultimate goal is to get to 2,000 dollars, then invest a portion into a Gold I.R.A. This is fun and fascinating to me.
Nice idea. Good luck, I'm sure you will do it.
My 1 grams are worth more now then when I bought them in November.
Good to hear!
One thing to note, 10 gram gold bars and up, you really save a ton on Premium. So if you can, try to save up till you can buy a 10 g bar or larger.
Why are they better then buying 1g!
@@AB-eg3nq because there is more labor connected to the smaller "bars", so you get charged more per gram, for example it would cost 20% more to buy 100x 1g ingot vs 1x 100g ingot. The 100g ingot is however much less liquid meaning it would be easier to find 100 people with each of them buying 1g vs finding 1 person that would buy the whole 100g ingot.
@@marcelkubicek8829 It also depends on to who you want to sell it. If you're selling it do dealers, yeah you will get the spot price or less. But if you sell it to someone else, there are plenty of people who want to buy a 1 gram bar with premium.
@@AB-eg3nq cheaper premium but liquidity is harder
Gold is probably due another sharp retraction in the coming weeks (like the drop of 7% this week) after that I think that the $1800/$1900's range will be the norm... no more Gold at $1200. Some analysts are even saying $15,000 Gold by 2025 but there will of course be sharp retrations along the way - stay frosty!
Yep I am actually waiting for a drop to buy.. I am gettibg silver too..
@Rich 91 bitcoin sucks
@@themechanic7732 Bitcoin is just going up. I'd buy it if I were you. I said no i'm good when it was like $20 a coin and now it's nearly $20,000 a coin. Have a good day :D
@@GodDragonLich Bitcoin prices is nothing but speculation. Pure gambling.
What is a trustful sites I can order from and what way you recommend to purchase through?
You are right! Even more relevant now in 2022
Simply, just purchase whatever size you can afford at that period of time. More importantly buy whatever brand / country coins you like, high chances the coins / bar you like most will kept with you for long of period of time.
I have just started this myself I have started small. A gram of gold is cheaper than a gram of coke easy deal in my eyes.
Nice, I'm not the only one who is willing to buy small weights of gold bars.
Small bars are liquid and affordable.
Long story short, if you got big stack of cash in your hands then you go for it and get the largest gold bar as possible to save some premium, but if you are saving regulary like 200-500 dollars a month then you go for the fractional bars and coins. But important to remember, you never ever go for fractional if you got a huge cash at one moment, cuz i know many people who love to spend their 10K with many fractional bars rather than getting one bar for the same amount. They always ended up paying 20g worth of premium for their behaviors!
With the ongoing war, gold has risen drastically. Just purchased a couple bullions recently and was glad I did before the price of gold skyrocketed
@Werner von frankfurt hey how much do you think i should get for my first purchase gold bar ? ranging from .5g to 5g and possibly 10g
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Ratings to you for the 1g's. I have a few myself. Another great video.
Cool, thanks
Well your production was spot on it’s over $100 a gram now 2024
I just started collecting I’m from Canada, prices are through the roof. I just watched a Jacoje video where he got a 10g fortuna for 430 USD and that was 4 years ago. I basically pay the same for 6g
Hi Brian, Yes I know it can be a bit crushing but it will be the same for people starting in 10 years from now. Look at it like this: you could be paying August 2020 $2100 oz prices (I think $1900 will be the new base soon), so what your buying now is not that bad in the grand scheme!
@@TangibleLife just wanted to point out that 1 year later you were spot on about the base price.
Its easier to sell smaller amounts for smaller purchases in a financial apocalypse is my thought
Also thats why im buying silver as well
Oh yeah paying the premium for this tradable stuff is worth it! And soon it'll be worth way more than what you payed for that premium
Yes good point. People forget that 1g, 2.5g, 5g bars are a lot of money for many people and they will pay a premium but will nearly always get that premium back when selling on (premium in, premium out). The proof is on eBay at any point you can see small bars will go for 25% + over spot all day long.
That’s why I just got into buying some silver I also bought an ounce of gold
My one oz Pamp ounce came from Apmex and they have a very good reputation. That might be one of the most important factors as Apmex cannot afford to damage their reputation with fake bars or coins.
Hi, Yes very true. Buyers need to do some research on sellers before making a purchase.
i just bought my first ounce from apmex, so it will be legit right ? they are legit ?
@@musicbizmoriarty they are
@@musicbizmoriarty Yeah them & JM Bull probably top two
Apmex usually has higher prices than other dealers! Shop around.
Thanks for sharing a video showing the different sizes!
You are so welcome!
Great video with very good points. I just bought 25 of the 1 gram pamp bars.
Every stacker should have more than
100 grams minimum.
Since gold expected to go above $ 2,000. Scary but welcome to gold 😍 world
@@sobhangholamey2162 better than none at all friend :) ive stopped stacking cause of covid as well
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Valcambi combibar would have solved this problem easily AND for much lower overall premium
Valcambi has to notch packaging and great prices. Always cheaper than pamp
@@ryanclabough1853 I love valcambi 😍😍 It’s also a great looking bar
Boom!! :)
Ive bought 200 gs of silver and have about 25.5g of gold. Still wanting 8oz of gold by winter of 2024. Industry needs gold now more than ever
you collect up to 28(?)g of gold then it'll equal 1oz, that's the first goal which is to get that 1oz.
1 ounce in the international market is 31.125g troy ounce.
Nah he chatting about a street ounce 😂
The problem with small bars like these is the premiums are really high as a percentage of the total cost to purchase. A one ounce bar or coin would have a smaller premium. I believe I read that in the UK silver is assessed sales tax on purchases but gold is not. Are British issued silver coins tax exempt? If so, I would recommend buying one ounce silver coins if you have limited funds instead of these high premium gold bars. Oh, and don't buy any bars off of Ebay. You're just asking to be scammed. Stick with known coin dealers.
I think the premium is only an issue if you are trying to flip Gold in the short term based on performance. If you are holding for 5 years its not an issue. I try to have a split of Gold in my portfolio that is for quick gains when prices rise to liquidate quickly with profit, and the other buys are long term investments.
New sub. I absolutely agree with fractionals and bars at that. Its what i can afford. It will increase in value and my stacking is for my sons. Premium and cost will not matter to them, since they will have no cost involved! Thanks for the great information.
dont be an idiot your kids will appreciate a real investment
Got love some gold
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Just bought the 1 gram, 2.5 gram, and 5 grams. 🤞🏾
1/10 coins are another good bet. Nice low premiums. For me fractional is king
Yes 1/10 coins are very good, probably my fav size Gold coin, plenty of variety in designs too.
Excellent video and even more relevant now. New sub.
Awesome, thank you!
My favourite Gold channel :)
Hi,
Yup I am Gold stacker 24k bars only. I buy fractional Gold bars 11 month then 12 month I buy 2 big bars. According to my budget. Planning to stack fractional Gold bars atleast 50 grams to 100 grams. And big bars 10 TOLAS bars
Hi, yes I am tending towards 24k for larger bars and coins now. a 10 tolas bar is a awesome weight.
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Yes sir. Very expensive but worthy 😌
Buying less than 1oz gold is good for when the apocalypse happens but a really poor choice for wealth building over the long haul. The premiums are simply too high.
Just received my first 1g Fortuna. Nice small piece. PAMP is hard to buy now. IMHO 10g is good size/price ratio, why not 10g?
10g is good, just many cannot afford it.
Also god forbid something happens and money is worthless you could always use these 1 gram gold bars to trade for food or whatever.
awesome! great explanation, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Liked and subscribed! Thanks for the video
Buying small isn't a waste of time.
You will pay more in the long haul though. 5g is the smallest I buy unless I want to make a pendant.
Like the Argor Haraeus Linear. It comes in 1 and 2 gram sizes. Its beautiful. Beauty only makes it harder to part with. I may start buying Valcambi only in the future
HI! I need advice, what's the best amount of gold to keep for starters?
Tough call, depends on your personal finances. 1/10 ounce is one of my favourite. A decent amount of gold but affordable
Would reselling it in the future be hard if you removed it from the packaging?
I think it would be s bad idea.. your average person will be suspicious, dealers won't care so much.
I just purchased 5g from JM Bullion’s.$406.05 @12am 8/19/20.
you are so stupid
@@jagjeetgosal586 why?
@@jagjeetgosal586 why do they sell fakes?
Wow, that's very expensive.
Right now December 2020 gold is 60 dollars a gram. That’s 300 dollars for a 5g bar. This guys overpaid
I'm 29 almost 30, been thinking if I should start a private pension scheme or spend that same amount of money each month on gold bar's? Thinking £60-120 a month on bars. Think this is a good idea? Also which websites do you recommend? Also is silver bars also good investment?
Hi, I would try and do both. I think given current climate I would like to have at least 10% of my wealth in physical Gold. If you can afford around £150 pm on Metals then that would be a great start. I think 10% of your allocation could go on Silver. For example one might buy a single 2.5g Gold bar (or 2 x 1g bars) and a 1oz 999 Silver coin for around that price. I think if you go much less it's going to take a long time to accumulate anything worth having in the timeframe you have. You must make sure you can afford to keep your investments for the long term and not overextend and have to sell the what you've built up a few years later to pay a bill or something, that would be gutting. If you are in the UK I have always had a good service from www.gold.co.uk/accounts/login/?referral_code=DI8ERTS5
@@TangibleLife thanks for your help, I'm thinking of silver and gold. Platinum also worth doing? It is for the long run. Thinking of doing it for the next 30-40 years without selling it. That long enough to be worth saving it up
@rishi patel I'm a low earner so my company I work for only pays into a pension for me when they give me enough hours to add me to the pension scheme. So it isn't often they add too it.
@@josephbrown3647 I am in a similar situation as you, going to buy a a few gold bars every year until i go inte pension, btw don't they have some state sponsored minimum level pension in UK? I have in sweden but it is very low and not guaranteed it will be around in 30-35 years
@@allanballan275 we pay a small amount of money from your wages into a pension. There are private pensions also to help top it up. But with how it goes I won't get a pension until I'm in my 70's so it is so far away. I think the gold will definitely help me in the later years to allow me to enjoy life during retirement
A serial number is a nice identification feature in the event of theft.
Gold approaching $2,500 per oz
Got me some gold and decent amount of silver - the silver im willing to sell easier than the gold
Ancient time people believed the more gold you had the more wealth you attracted in your life
Gold would have to be at 3-4,000 a oz for me to sell mind or unless got in tough times
I think there's probably something in that as generally success begets success
You touch the packages so much they're talking apart
Hell yeah, looks awesome 👌
watching this vid just a year later and being in aus price is up to 260 for a 2.5 feels good getting into gold ten years to late
Nice one! It's never to late to get into Gold!
Most people can’t afford to purchase more than 1g or 2.5g of gold at one time. Plus it’s a lot easier to use them or if you need to sell a few in emergencies. You won’t be forced to sell a larger bar. The value will go up over time, but the inflation of Fiat currencies around the world are destroying your savings everyday. These are a solid insurance for hard times. Brass and copper jacketed lead are quickly becoming rare and precise metals in 🇺🇸.
Hi Don, Thanks for that, good points, interesting - I heard there was some kind of AMMO shortage crisis in US.
Forget it, premiums on small bars are horribly high.
Never buy any gold over 3% premium, if you can get 1g, 2,5g gold bars for such pricing okay sure why not, but most likely you will see them for 10-15% markup and that is catastrophing as an investment.
Cheap coins like LMU 5,81g fine gold can be bought for under 2%, save up enough worthless paper dollars until you can afford one, its the better deal.
You will add the premium back on to whoever buys, it won't be a problem.
Do you recommend money metal I just bought my first 1/2 gram an will continue to purchase n the near future what’s your though on that company?
Premium is a theoretical value, just look at silver, spot price of silver is unpegged from physical bullion price. I say this, because in realmlife what matters most about a gold piece is affordability and buyback performance. Premium means nothing if you can resale a gold piece making a good profit or taking a small los if you had to sell too soon because of an emergency.
5gram bars hace excellent buyback performance, and I stack those. I might stack one gram and 2.5 if I prove they are profitable and liquid enough by making selling experiment. Also, keep in mind govts will have a tighter grip on our money the more we move into digital, and in the year 2040, pulling out cash from an ATM or transfering cash for a full ounce of gold will NOT go unnoticed by the authorities, they will try to chip into your transaction with some tax or ban or restriction.
So say in 10 years time the price is good and you want to sell, what would be your process? Where would you sell bars of gold etc? I’ll never get into this but I enjoy watching and always wondered, like, I’m guessing you’re not just gonna throw em on eBay?
Hi there - dam right I'm gonna throw them on eBay, as eBay is probably the largest coin market place on the web. I'm selling 1g gold bars that I paid £45 for 3 months ago for £70/£80 today on eBay when spot is only £47. People could actually but from a bullion dealer for less than eBay, and that is because demand is so high at the moment - and dealers have supply issues. In 10 years the same £45 should be at least £65 if not doubled judging by the way things are going with Covid, endless money printing, Gold backed cryptos, Mining supply issues and on eBay than means near £100.. better return than sticking it in the bank and hoping for 15% interest rates which will never happen in our lifetime... although the downside is that there is always risk attached to buying Gold...
@@TangibleLife i seen a guy sell 2,700 1g grams of gold for $81 on ebay.....
$81 each
@@ViolentTreatment There you go good for him!
Understand your reasoning for buying fractional, but you pay significantly more per gram vs one ounce units.
I'll still get some cause I love the feel of gold. But I'll probably get it once my crypto gold goes higher
Good idea - covert some crypto profits into physical Gold - they you are protected on both sides.
Are they worth more in the packet 🤷♂️ I'd like to find some sort of storage case/box and start collecting
Get a safe.
Great video. What's the app called to scan them? Just ordered pamp myself. Thanks mark
You can download it here apps.apple.com/ch/app/veriscan-bullion-security/id1077336096?l=en&mt=8
@@TangibleLife thanks
@@TangibleLife when you scan them does it keep them stored or is it just to check the product? Thanks
In the UK buying small gold bars is probably not the best investment UK Gold coins are CGT exempt whilst bars are not . Premiums on bars tend to be higher than sovereigns and Britannia coins too. CGT allowances are rumoured to be slashed to pay for corovirus debt so it's even more important.
Thanks you make good points. I think you have to bear in mind some people might struggle to afford even 1/10 Gold coin, so 1g, 2,5g bars offer some entry into Gold stacking without costing the earth, and I believe stacking one or two 1g Gold bars a month is better than none (or spending it on junk).
You make a good point. But what is the difference in premium between a 1gram Gold bar and a 1/10oz Gold Britannia?
@@noodlyappendage6729 as always it depends on your region . Plus in my region UK bars are liable to capital gains tax and coins are not.
Semi Numismatic Guy I’m in the UK
@@noodlyappendage6729 I'm rubbish at calculating premiums but looking at Atkinson's bullion. 3* 1g bars £ 196. 1/10 Britannia is £162 so you save £34 and have an extra .11g of gold if you went Britannia plus you would be CGT exempt when coming to sell .
Are the Pamp bars usually smaller in size versus the RCM bars? I got two oz of each and was shocked when comparing the size of both 1 oz bars that appear to be the same thickness, why is the Pamp 1 oz looking half the size of the RCM 1 oz bar? Ordered them all from Costco , could Costco sell fakes in this case or it it normal for them to look much smaller then other 1 oz bar brands?
I just started buying gold. I get anything under 5g that's only because of the premiums.
Where do you suggest we should purchase it?
1g of gold cost twice more than an ounce of silver.
I believe 1g of gold is equal to about $57.
1kilo is $57k... in 2 to 3 years if the gold price doubles then your gold is worth $100k+.
Start investing now.
Doesn't the premium kind of not matter since you can sell it with the premium included? ie. Let's say you bought a fractional with 5% premium, can't I sell it with market price at 5%? I am new which is why I am curious
I’m torn between buying 5g or 1g. The 5g is currently at USD356 from where I’m buying it from. Should I consider getting that instead?
Is there a point to keeping in the packaging? I personally would want to remove… just curious
You could open one one time to get it out your system but I would strongly advise not to remove or tamper with the packaging due to future resale issues.
I know this video is last year, but i cannot get my head round the fact that if you buy the physical gold from these bullion companies in the small quantities mentioned, you are paying a premium on the actual price of the gold of about 20-25%, if you need to liquidate them they will only buy it back at roughly the spot price. Tell me if i am wrong but unless you are thinking of a very very long investment game or buying 1KG bars, you are just lining these bullion co's coffers
Buying small Gold Bars is a long game. 1g Gold Bars allows low barrier to entry. If you can go 1 ounce and afford to hold it do so.
Why gold when you hawe so much potential with other metals like silver, palladium or platinum
They are good investments but Gold is the most well known to the retail sector and practical to stack and sell on in the future - have you ever tried selling Platinum on the secondhand retail market about 5% of the market size compared to Gold and Silver.
@@TangibleLife true.. and no i have not.I did start stacking silver with the current price drop from the 2 year old sideways range. I plan to increase my stacking as/if tha price drops below $16/oz.
On jm bullion. Im seeing the same weight pamps. Diff names. Diff prices. Dose it matter? Or is the weight worth the wait. Forget about the name?
The mark up when you buy 1g comes to around 68 pounds when the actual price of a gram is around 43 pounds is this not a problem when it comes to re selling as you could only sell 1g for the market price..
When to buy it online you have paid the mark up? I do not really get it. Any one can help me to understand? Thanks
A 2.5 gram bar is around 137 pounds at the moment so slightly better I guess but I do not understand how paying such a mark up on 1 grams is a good idea.
Hi Boku.. because someone else will be picking up that premium when you sell it on in 5 to 10 years time. Show me 1 gram of Gold for sale anywhere on the Internet at spot price? IF you have to fire-sale your 1g to a coin dealer a week after purchasing it then sure you will get burned.
Exactly that’s why you hold it for years to come when spot price for a gram is way above 68, I bought a gram for 62 the other week I will not sell that bar till spot is 62 or more or someone willing to pay me a mad offer
hi what app are you using to check the gold mate ?
Hey please could I ask for your opinion? Would you buy 1g gold now or save up for a 2.5g but by that time, the price may have gone up? Or would you buy silver instead right now? Thanks in advance ☺️
Hi Amy, Good question. Firstly I would make sure that whatever you buy now you can afford to keep for at least 1-3 years. If it was me there is a dip in Gold price at the moment, so if you can get a 2.5g quite soon I would say it would be a little better. But 1g Gold bar is also just fine. Silver is good, so you could get a 1g Gold and a couple ounces of Silver for around the same price as a 2.5g Gold bar.
@@TangibleLife is there a dip as of now? Is it a good time to purchase 10g of gold my friend?
@@KakashiH318 If it was me I would jump in now. At the time of writing 10g Gold is about $600 USD so even if the market had a sudden pull back of 15% (which would be highly unlikely) you would only be saving $90, but the way things are heading (dollar weak at moment (91.2) I would say one has more chance of begin more gutted that it moves up 25% in the next few weeks and your looking at $750+ for the same bar.
Make sure you can afford to hold this investment for at least 6-12 months. I think sub $1800 is a good buy - I'm buying!
For starting in gold I'd do fractional gold coins, 1/4 oz preferred but you can also do 1/10 oz. They'll retain their premiums and can resell them to trade up to 1/2 oz or 1 oz coins.
@@shabushabu1453 Hi, yes 1/4 and 1/10 are great sizes, liquid, compact, high demand, affordable
It s fake...open..open...it s fake or...
Of course its not fake!!
Only thing bad about 1 gram -5 gram bars are the spot price and some are ridiculous ! Any gold is better than no gold at all.
Yes, I agree it does hurt sometimes especially the 1g
Where would you sell these if you wanted to sell them in uk? What shop would buy them from you or would you sell them online? Ty
eBay, online, bullion/coin shops
Buy buy buy people silver and gold
I look at it like this if a nations currency tanks at least you know gold retains its value, prime example of this is Venezuela, their money is worthless but those that may have gold have something to barter with.
Just stay long term.
Hi, HELP! Is there a PAMP Lady fortuna 1oz. In an eliptic shape?
Only ones I've ever seen come in 1g 5g and 10g. I Might be wrong though
There is a2.5 also in smalls
How much do you think 1oz of gold bar would be worth in 10 yrs if you were to buy an 1oz of it today in 2021?
I think it all points to $5000+ per Oz
What are your thoughts on Heraeus, Umicore and Metalor gold bars? I like Pamp too but my bullion dealer has never sent me a Pamp bar. Like you I buy the small units as well, it's all I can afford and indeed easy to liquidate in an emergency.
All the Heraeus and Umicore bars I have are great, have had no issues when selling on they are as far as I know very reputable. As I'm from the UK my personal favorite Gold (or Silver) bars are Royal Mint but I do mainly buy Pamp. At the end of the day if its 999.9 pure I'm happy with it, I'm not going to turn down a good deal on Gold bar just because I don't like the mint.
What do you think of 1/2 gram bars
im starting out and wanna start a channel like yours!
The plastic on top, is it can take off?
Yes you can peel off the protective layer.
What site is the best to buy gold from ? Looking to start investing
I get from JM Bullion, MoneyMetals and APMEX. All certified. (USA).
What are the best sites to buy the bars?
Did you find out I want to know too?
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@@Bernie559 eBay for me. Buy from user Liberty.Coin 100% feedback seller
I think instead of me buying a gram a week im gonna buy a 2.5 every two weeks.
I think that is a better idea personally.
I buy it of bullionbypost. Great company been buying from them for 10 years now.
So........... why ?
What is a trustful sites I can order from and what way you recommend to purchase through? And do they give receipt? Is it real gold when I want to sell it not fake ?
APMEX
this makes sense
What website or store did you get your bars from?
Apmex, JM Bullion or if you trust the buyer eBay
@@TangibleLife thank you