This and That - 2024 Skate America

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  • Опубліковано 22 жов 2024

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  • @MisaKMK
    @MisaKMK День тому +124

    Welcome back Jonathan - missed your perspective. Thanks Nolan for filling in during the CS Skating series.

    • @lindabrodney4958
      @lindabrodney4958 8 годин тому

      Jonathan elevates the sport. What a lovely surprise to see him back.

  • @DSQueenie
    @DSQueenie День тому +64

    2:35 Skate America
    5:02 Ice Dance
    - 11:32 🇬🇧
    - 16:41 🇪🇸
    - 19:21 🇺🇸 C/B
    - 28:25 🇨🇦 F/A
    - 29:43 🇨🇦 L/L
    - [31:04 🇺🇸 F/D]
    - 34:06 🇺🇸 M/C
    - 36:26 🇬🇪
    42:35 Men
    - 42:47 🇫🇷 KA
    - 48:32 🇺🇸 IM
    - 53:47 🇱🇻
    - 55:54 🇺🇸 LB
    - 1:05:43 🇯🇵 KM
    1:07:38 Ladies
    - 1:07:38 🇯🇵 WH
    - 1:10:06 🇺🇸 ELG
    - 1:16:46 🇺🇸 BT (aka Dave’s training partner!)
    - 1:23:59 🇺🇸 IL
    - 1:30:58 🇯🇵 RW
    - 1:31:42 🇧🇪
    - 1:33:14 🇯🇵 YA
    1:33:26 Pairs
    - 1:33:37 🇯🇵
    - 1:38:23 🇺🇸 K/O’S
    - 1:44:03 🇺🇸 E/M (& Ted Barton)
    1:46:55 Moment of the Week

    • @tessa2times
      @tessa2times 21 годину тому +7

      Thanks, that's very helpful

    • @ddjr6673
      @ddjr6673 15 годин тому +6

      Thank you! How lovely of you! ❤

    • @spotlightartist1282
      @spotlightartist1282 15 годин тому +6

      Thank you!!!

    • @KL-pv7cl
      @KL-pv7cl 15 годин тому +4

      Thank you so much

    • @AuroraR
      @AuroraR 6 годин тому +1

      Thank you! 🙏🏼

  • @bradychin3413
    @bradychin3413 День тому +46

    Bless you for calling attention to Jean Luc's insightful practice commentary. Give him more air time.

  • @kateolive2250
    @kateolive2250 День тому +64

    I missed you a lot Jonathan !! I love how you comment!! Welcome back !!

  • @sadmanahmed9568
    @sadmanahmed9568 День тому +29

    Madi's dresses were top notch...especially the one she put on Olivia Smart

  • @TraCarol83
    @TraCarol83 День тому +35

    Jonathan- you have been so missed!!! I hope you had the most wonderful summer ever. Welcome back!

  • @lidiamcbride1539
    @lidiamcbride1539 12 годин тому +10

    I really like both Nolan and Alissa but your dynamic with Jonathan is just unmatched! Loved this recap❤

  • @eisenaechery7591
    @eisenaechery7591 23 години тому +17

    Jonathan is back 😍 Welcome back Jonathan, so happy you're back to complete our fav figure skating duo!

  • @janisartuso3991
    @janisartuso3991 День тому +33

    My moment of the week : Ted Barton freaking out after Kevin aymoz‘ free skate . He tried to slink away from the microphone .. but we heard you mate . You had tears in you eyes . We all had 😅

  • @barbkarolina8162
    @barbkarolina8162 День тому +30

    love seeing Jonathan. Dave and Jonathan have such great chemistry. Nolan is awesome too. Everybody come back ALL the time. You better ALL be back next week to trash Skate Canada, this comes from a Canadian, haha:) Please bring on Meagan D.

    • @janef220
      @janef220 День тому +3

      I liked Nolan’s perspective also. Maybe a bit of both

  • @jessenelson5616
    @jessenelson5616 День тому +38

    The world is healing omg! Welcome back Jonathan. This event was a mess!

  • @Abigail-Hicks
    @Abigail-Hicks 3 години тому +2

    Thank you both for doing this! So fun to listen to and I always learn a lot.

  • @grizellda2540
    @grizellda2540 День тому +21

    I have missed Jonathan so much - and I'm thrilled to see him back!

  • @kimakamaddog
    @kimakamaddog 4 години тому +2

    Oh, Jonathan, How I've missed you!!!!!! So glad you're back!

  • @ArohaStill
    @ArohaStill 4 години тому +2

    Congratulations on the new positions Jonathan amd great to have the dynamic duo back. Nice start to the Grand Prix season.❤

  • @KL-pv7cl
    @KL-pv7cl День тому +28

    JONATHAN!!!!!!!! I missed you sooooooooo much! ❤

  • @yorkshirerose398
    @yorkshirerose398 22 години тому +10

    Thanks for the quick upload Dave! and welcome back Jonathan!

  • @ISUskatingfan
    @ISUskatingfan 16 годин тому +7

    Thanks Dave ! I am a HUGE Fan and thank you for all that you and TSL have done for skating -

    • @ISUskatingfan
      @ISUskatingfan 16 годин тому +3

      Me any the other ladies who skate at PSCHS just ADORE TSL ❤

  • @TotallyForkable
    @TotallyForkable День тому +19

    I’ve been refreshing all day for this 👀 Welcome back, Jonathan!!

  • @berry9960
    @berry9960 19 годин тому +7

    Love Jonathan - welcome back! And thanks Nolan for contributing over the summer.

  • @jeanluccharbonnel4226
    @jeanluccharbonnel4226 День тому +15

    Welcome back Jonathan we missed you 🤩🌷💚

  • @ckilbarger01
    @ckilbarger01 День тому +20

    Olivia has said that Madison Chock designed their costumes and when comparing those high concept, very well done Dune costumes to Chock and Bates' costumes.... It just makes them look good, fine, nice

    • @joannm.1756
      @joannm.1756 День тому +1

      I thought Madison Hubbell designed it.

    • @ckilbarger01
      @ckilbarger01 20 годин тому +2

      ​@@joannm.1756 it wasn't. Love Maddie Hubble but Olivia was talking about Madison Chock who designs all their costumes. The Dune costumes even look like something Chock and Bates would wear

  • @MarshaNovak
    @MarshaNovak День тому +18

    Seemed like Breakfast at Tiffany’s brought out some of Isabeau’s personality

    • @ddjr6673
      @ddjr6673 15 годин тому +3

      Exactly what I thought - I really want her to relax more into it - she is very engaging

    • @steveestrada1795
      @steveestrada1795 Годину тому

      I thought Isabeau was lovely overall for both programs. I know the jump technique isn't perfect, but the program is nice to watch.

  • @christinethorp3684
    @christinethorp3684 15 годин тому +8

    Was anyone else frustrated watching the skaters struggle with the smaller rink size here? Many of the men's botched jumping passes (especially quad salchows) seemed to be the result of running out of room! Or, they were clearly taking odd angles into elements to make them fit. It must be really challenging for the pairs and ice dancers. Seems unfair to all the skaters. I wish the ISU had a standard for rink sizes at big events; Olympic size or close to it should be the norm.

  • @sarageballe1591
    @sarageballe1591 18 годин тому +5

    THRILLED to have Jonathan back!!! Such a pleasure.

  • @steveestrada1795
    @steveestrada1795 Годину тому +1

    Welcome back Jonathan.

  • @maddielarson917
    @maddielarson917 10 годин тому +4

    Welcome back, Jonathan! We missed you.

  • @dustinmuniz9170
    @dustinmuniz9170 День тому +17

    Overjoyed to see Jonathan!

  • @steveestrada1795
    @steveestrada1795 Годину тому +1

    I enjoy the Rhythm Dance last year and this year. I know you will judge me for that.

  • @ginamontgomery484
    @ginamontgomery484 15 годин тому +5

    So glad you are back Jonathan!!

  • @ddjr6673
    @ddjr6673 21 годину тому +16

    Yay! Jonathan - don’t get me wrong Nolan is lovely and intelligent - but also glad to have Jonathan back and congratulations on the appointments - well deserved. Dave you have a huge roster of such impressive people. A huge thank you from the UK for all that you do.

  • @Essylte
    @Essylte 5 годин тому +1

    Wow, it's been a while since I've seen Jonathan! Welcome back, sir!
    It's been a while, what with work and school, but looks like you guys have been busy.
    Skate America 2024 was much more enjoyable than I thought it would be, even in ice dance! Surprised that Fear/Gibson won over Chock/Bates, but good for them. Miura/Kihara did great as usual, and great for Wakaba for winning gold here! The new senior/former junior ice-dance winners did wonderfully. Yay for Kevin Aymoz for winning silver here, and Ilia Malinin won as expected. The Gala exhibition was just fun to watch, and I'm glad I got to see so many excellent performances. I can't wait for Friday for Skate Canada!

  • @Nerdo-5212
    @Nerdo-5212 День тому +15

    Dave: that hoodie was from Ilia’s new clothing line. I’m all for it if it brings in the youth to skating. I’m afraid I’m with the Prevagen/AARP crowd as a substantial portion of the American crowd is. My 18 yo g-daughter wanted a hoodie for x-mad

  • @ISUskatingfan
    @ISUskatingfan День тому +14

    So happy to see Jonathan!

  • @janethuppi6041
    @janethuppi6041 День тому +11

    Yay! Jonathan is back!!! Missed you!

  • @nicmayer4645
    @nicmayer4645 День тому +28

    So happy to see Jonathan but Nolan has been doing a great job too and now I miss him, LOL

    • @PoshPigsHerd
      @PoshPigsHerd День тому +5

      The whole TSL family is just too watchable! I might join their Patreon just to see Jenny again. 😅

    • @alexac3098
      @alexac3098 День тому +2

      Same, but I find the episodes with more than 2 people too chaotic for me, so I’d rather Jonathan and Nolan rotate between recapping competitions.

  • @kristinab3838
    @kristinab3838 День тому +17

    Yeah Jonathan's back!!!!!🎉

  • @anthonydolio8118
    @anthonydolio8118 День тому +13

    Thanks Guys. I think I watched a different Skate America. Loved Chock and Bates FS. Loved the Led Zeppelin number. Loved Ilia. And really loved Dennis.

  • @alessandracambre4991
    @alessandracambre4991 День тому +11

    Congratulations on your career directions, Jonathan!

  • @Kelly-fc1ym
    @Kelly-fc1ym 7 годин тому +2

    I think Jean-Luc Baker should be offered the high performance director job at US Figure Skating. The quality of U.S. skating is absolutely horrible these days (in general but not all skaters) and we need someone to step in and help to develop those skills in the skaters at the top. His commentary is OUTSTANDING!

  • @PoshPigsHerd
    @PoshPigsHerd День тому +14

    “Have you done a keg stand?”
    “You know I haven’t.”
    😂😂😂

  • @alanawolf1556
    @alanawolf1556 День тому +6

    It’s not just you: the crowd’s reception to Lucas - particularly for his free - was exceptionally warm in person. Not sure how well that conveyed on screen. I desperately hope his physical health holds and he continues to compete for some time, because my dreams of seeing even the faintest echo of John Curry’s work in present-day skaters are vested in him alone. (No pressure, kid!)

  • @GayleFalkenthal
    @GayleFalkenthal День тому +8

    This native San Diegan had no idea there was a Fake San Diego in New Jersey! A survey trip may be in order 😂 But not in winter, we don’t do that ❤❤❤ you both!

  • @jasonkanzler1073
    @jasonkanzler1073 19 годин тому +4

    Welcome back Jonathan - missed you!!!!!!

  • @WOWitsANT
    @WOWitsANT 17 годин тому +7

    I happened to watch skate America with the same non skating people I did last season. The type of people who can’t tell the difference between a triple toe and a quad axel. Each time they all had a “wow” response to Kevin. They loved him To the point they are considering attending World’s in Boston to see him perform. When it came to Ilia I had to explain what he’s doing and why he is winning. So unless you are a knowledgeable skating person ilia comes off as very bland and not very interesting.

  • @hellsbellsmichelle
    @hellsbellsmichelle 17 годин тому +3

    1:28:20 Katelyn Osmond's Sous le ciel de Paris and M'Lord Edith Piaf was one of my standout favourite women's programs there ever has been. Thank you for bringing it back to the fore of my mind again.

  • @bettybleu12
    @bettybleu12 12 годин тому +4

    Woohoo. Jonathan is back!!!! Yahoo!

  • @Vintageterrys
    @Vintageterrys 19 годин тому +2

    Hooray! Welcome back Jonathan. Love the banter you guys bring. Great show!

  • @JillArroyo-e5e
    @JillArroyo-e5e День тому +5

    I missed you Jonathan glad you're back. I watched al the dance performances my new favorites are Leah Neset and Artem Markelov I think they have a very bright future. There is something about them that I haven't seen in a very long time. I know they are very young and will have to do there time before getting any recognition . Yes I really liked Fear and Gibson he really is special .

  • @topicdel
    @topicdel День тому +7

    Welcome back Jonathan! Great recap, thanks! Would be epic to have a recap with all three of you! (Dave, Jonathan, Nolan)

  • @Patricia599
    @Patricia599 6 годин тому +1

    Nice to see Jonathan back! Thank you for suggesting that there be follow-up with Kevin. I hope he stays well. As for Chock and Bates, I've never been a fan and I continue to think they are over marked.

  • @ИринаШпаковская-р8о
    @ИринаШпаковская-р8о 14 годин тому +2

    Great to see Jonathan back! I also hope that Nolan is not gone for good and we will occasionally be able to see him with Dave.

  • @krux3759
    @krux3759 9 годин тому +2

    Lucas landed some of the most beautiful quad toes in practice I’ve ever seen in my life

  • @gustavomachado8226
    @gustavomachado8226 День тому +5

    I remember when i started watching figure skating regularly (not that long ago) and the first version of Nessun Dorma i got was Radionova's. Still have fond memories of that first time!

  • @eljj7968
    @eljj7968 День тому +14

    Lisa McKinnon made Isabeau's short programme dress, which I'd guess is why it's so different from her usual dresses (not sure who usually makes them?)

    • @margarita-r2q
      @margarita-r2q День тому +2

      they are made by a woman in Russia, I believe the shop is named Axel Trend Sport or something along those lines

    • @katharinemoore4560
      @katharinemoore4560 15 годин тому

      Also love SP dress. Reminds me of a simple blue dress Mariah Bell wore.

    • @steveestrada1795
      @steveestrada1795 Годину тому

      I love Isabeau's costumes this year.

  • @SecondPlaceYuya
    @SecondPlaceYuya День тому +8

    Chock and bates: bad short, great long
    Fear Gibson: mid short, mid long. The Beyoncé program is a little bit honey boo-boo.
    Isabeau: two great programs, squirrely jumps
    Smart and dieck: great long to annoyingly overused music. But it’s the best of all the dunes
    Ilia: mid programs, but at least he is portraying a character which is a version of artistic improvement.
    Kevin: good short, okay long. And those jump landings are 🔥 🔥

    • @SecondPlaceYuya
      @SecondPlaceYuya День тому +1

      Also love that you brought up Jamie Silverstein. Justin Pekarek coached me in dance for a bit.

    • @ingai7014
      @ingai7014 День тому

      Thus till Kevin starts to kill himself all over the ice -when those jumps are getting derailed-which and when -nobody knows ahead

  • @andreagoldstein4070
    @andreagoldstein4070 День тому +8

    I love watching Emily in Paris and Fear & Gibson, fun escapism. I heard Ben Agosto also comment on Lilah's free leg, so you're not alone.
    Welcome back Jonathan!
    ETA: Mary Schucker's channel is great, I think she recorded most programs at Skate America and the gala. Great for those who didn’t have a VPN or wanted the fancam view.

    • @ddjr6673
      @ddjr6673 15 годин тому

      Love her channel! And her comments on there are really lovely too. Always grateful to members of the audience who share with all of us

  • @valeriecomba3729
    @valeriecomba3729 11 годин тому +2

    I was also freaking out about Kevin!

  • @jimmyfab
    @jimmyfab День тому +7

    Jonathan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAY!

  • @susannicolari7335
    @susannicolari7335 6 годин тому +1

    Loved Olivia in The Dune costume ,she looked like a runway model on ice ,She was stunning and I’m not at all a Dune person .Obsessed with the hair scarf just beautiful

    • @Joyfully1117
      @Joyfully1117 4 години тому

      Madison Chock designed Olivia’s costume.

  • @erikaburns9821
    @erikaburns9821 День тому +5

    Dave, I’m also dealing with issues with my obturator internus! I’ve been doing work with the Franklin Method to help rehab it. It’s crazy how chronic upper body pain is connected to the rest of the body. Hope your PT helps!

  • @julesc3089
    @julesc3089 День тому +5

    I am so happy Jonathan is back. 😂

  • @MarshaNovak
    @MarshaNovak День тому +3

    That Alysa Liu program is one of the few that is slower and builds
    In a fun way without weird music cuts

  • @iosebdzamukashvili5360
    @iosebdzamukashvili5360 23 години тому +4

    Finally Jonathan is back!

  • @DaFizz
    @DaFizz 23 години тому +2

    Love the channel guys! Kevin's jump technique seems to be so much more solid!

  • @AMAskating
    @AMAskating 8 годин тому +2

    Yay, Jonathan!

  • @purpleskittle2463
    @purpleskittle2463 День тому +5

    Welcome back Jonathan!!❤

  • @nicnoodles
    @nicnoodles 17 годин тому +2

    Welcome back Jonathon always love your commentary 🎉

  • @kachinwosu3391
    @kachinwosu3391 21 годину тому +3

    Jonathannnnnnnn! good seeing you bro

  • @marcgalvan9360
    @marcgalvan9360 12 годин тому +1

    Jonathan is back, wakaba is a gold medalist. Yes figure skating is back baby.

  • @sophie8836
    @sophie8836 21 годину тому +3

    Welcome back Jonathan❤

  • @sheilaberry9837
    @sheilaberry9837 День тому +3

    I so agree about the Dune program, fabulous!

  • @drodd1822
    @drodd1822 18 годин тому +2

    Thank you nolan. I missed you jonathan!!! Now the world will be ok.

    • @steveestrada1795
      @steveestrada1795 Годину тому

      I enjoyed Nolan too. I like Jonathan and Nolan.

  • @melissamoralez4298
    @melissamoralez4298 11 годин тому +1

    Cant get enough of the DUNE program, mesmerizing for me!

  • @a9029k
    @a9029k 15 годин тому +1

    25:57 Dave's face 😂 😂 I think we were all feeling that..

  • @sleuththewild
    @sleuththewild 16 годин тому +2

    Yeah, Jonathan is back! Sure missed him.

  • @markrmaria1
    @markrmaria1 День тому +7

    So nice to see Jonathan back. :)

  • @amethyst5512
    @amethyst5512 10 годин тому +2

    Enjoyed seeing Jonathan again! I always appreciate his perspective, although I also enjoyed Nolan’s when he was on.
    You are spot on about Chock & Bates. I was also so happy for both Wakaba & Kevin. But I also know realistically, Kevin is not magically “cured” & results will greatly vary from competition to competition. Still love him as a skater though as he is so creative.
    Isabeau definitely needs to do something different. Quite honestly, her programs are a snooze fest. And her dress for the FS is a real miss unless she changes her program to soundtrack from Peter Pan. Her programs are just so forgettable & I can tell she has the personality to do something different to rectify that.

  • @SecondPlaceYuya
    @SecondPlaceYuya День тому +4

    Brady really Hillary Duffs the footwork sequence in her short program.

  • @npcarney
    @npcarney День тому +3

    Great Show! Such an intriguing listen!

  • @MW53516
    @MW53516 День тому +3

    My kid sister wants an Ilia hoodie for her birthday fwiw

  • @nvadqs
    @nvadqs День тому +4

    welcome Jonathan!
    Things I want to comment!
    1. C/B program reminds me of the one (I think was Elvis) were she looked like a Hollywood start and I believe she could be here that as well
    2. Bradie extensions: never ever. Why doesn't she ever do a proper extension? Is it because of her height?
    3. . Dune program is so great, but Tim never gets more than Level 1 in everything edge related.
    4.I can't stand Davis/Smolkin programs are so boring! No way I can keep interest in that.
    5. Amoz come back it's amazing but I don't get why he is allowed to lie on the ice for so long. I don't get stsq4 since he was jumping a lot and not lot of edges.
    6 The thing about the marriages is to be studied for legal purposes.
    7. I don't see that many improvement in Malinin performance
    8. Nobody mentioned the save for his life the Georgian guy made in the second jump (maybe third)!
    Thanks for another This and That Dave!!

  • @cursoquantics7523
    @cursoquantics7523 20 годин тому +3

    Missed you Jonathan

  • @TheReneex
    @TheReneex День тому +4

    Welcome back Jonathon. Where have you been?

  • @amethyst5512
    @amethyst5512 10 годин тому +2

    Not sure what it says about the current state of ice dance that Alysa Liu has the best 70s program this season. ISU needs to stop trying to force being viral. That doesn’t work & they have a better chance of it just letting skaters do their thing.

  • @kadv2172
    @kadv2172 День тому +5

    Jonathan 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😌

  • @mamima4
    @mamima4 23 години тому +3

    Jonathaaaaaaaan!!!! 😍😍😍
    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @b.reamsnider1328
    @b.reamsnider1328 День тому +1

    Enjoyed hearing about your decision to change your music, Dave, and LOLed at Jonathan's Mariah Bell quip! What are you going to tell your choreographer, Karen Kwan? Looking forward to whatever you come up with! 👍🏾

  • @KP-zd3hc
    @KP-zd3hc 23 години тому +3

    46:35 Kevin is Kevin. That’s his personality. And he has to track his own emotions and journey in his own way to find that healing. So I agree with Jonathan.
    People are just ASSHOLES.

  • @МаксимПоляков-я9т

    Dave, I was soooo glad to hear you in “Chisty Hvost” podcast! A pure pleasure. Come there from time to time 🤗😎

  • @carmacn2129
    @carmacn2129 День тому +4

    Hey! You’re back!!! Yay

  • @TwinnerA
    @TwinnerA 8 годин тому +1

    Leah Neset and Artem Markelov started dating in early 2022, so they had been together for over two years by the time they married in June of this year. Sure, they are very young, but I kind of feel their situation is different than the other couples’ “secret” marriages to light.

    • @alexac3098
      @alexac3098 7 годин тому +1

      That’s what he’s saying. The other marriages are clearly fishy.

  • @TheReneex
    @TheReneex День тому +5

    Will the US ever have another Brian Boitano or Michelle Kwan? Nathan Chen retired and we really need another American dynamo!!

    • @3l3llala13
      @3l3llala13 День тому +8

      Ilia: Am I chop liver to you?

    • @ArohaStill
      @ArohaStill День тому

      Brian and Michelle are masters at what they do. Nathan Chen is a special specimen, other worldly in jumps and some fun programs. Whomever is going to be the next great one is going to need time and support to develop. With all 3...the talent was evident early on. Ilia is special and his parents developed a great jumper but I he needs to break away from them style wise and

  • @DSQueenie
    @DSQueenie День тому +2

    15:32 So true about hierarchies.

  • @ZechariahSegovia
    @ZechariahSegovia 20 годин тому +1

    0:08 The crowd goes wild!!!!!!! 🥹

  • @zytolda
    @zytolda 23 години тому +3

    Jonathan ❤

  • @susanpola6150
    @susanpola6150 17 годин тому +1

    Welcome back Johnathan

  • @DMZarp
    @DMZarp 20 годин тому +1

    Welcome back Jonathan! Dave is it possible you could check your audio settings. I have checked mine against my tv, my iPhone, my EarPods and my wired headphones. I’ve also played it with a friend in case it’s a matter of my ears. The sotto voce lowering of your voice about…oh, is around 80% of your comments; sometimes it’s the second half of the sentence. It’s most especially when you are offering forth a juicy bit or potentially controversial comment, and your voice literally is a whisper. I can’t keep dealing with the volume controls! I offer this info in case I’m not the first to mention it, in hopes you can listen back to the last several episode/s and give it some thought.

  • @reneecarlson1784
    @reneecarlson1784 16 годин тому +1

    "run from the dinosaurs!!" :)

  • @QQ-wl6yt
    @QQ-wl6yt День тому +8

    Bradie’s SP footwork is tragic. I don’t remember seeing even any men doing that after Yagudin. It’s delusional choreography.

    • @ingai7014
      @ingai7014 День тому

      More like -you are dumb:her choreographer-Best in world -name him ?

    • @ckilbarger01
      @ckilbarger01 День тому +1

      I feel like she's going for high character to try to distract from her footwork not being there yet...

    • @QQ-wl6yt
      @QQ-wl6yt День тому

      @@ckilbarger01don’t think it can ever get there though

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 День тому +1

      I don't think Bradie is at the level to be able to do that style of stsq justice. Her skating skills and performance is not there yet

    • @ckilbarger01
      @ckilbarger01 21 годину тому

      @@QQ-wl6yt I said yet. I have hopes that she gets it there. It's just not there yet