Great video man. Appreciate the very clear delivery. What about a hat on an airplane? You paid to get in there.... You may eat... Seems private. But you are in motion.
A very good question! Planes and trains bend the "motion" rule to some extent, as they're typically conveyances used for much longer journeys. As another commenter pointed out below, a hat is fundamentally a piece of outerwear, much the same as an overcoat. So, if you'd find it comfortable to remove your coat on a plane or train trip, you could acceptably remove your hat in such circumstances, as well. Thanks for watching! - Preston
Gentleman's Gazette - Great video. I like the public/private space breakdown as you provided specific guidance for most common situations. However, for those who are ever unsure, no one would ever fault you erring on the side of caution and having strict policy of 1. Remove your hat off once indoors. 2. Remove hat when sharing of a meal while sitting. 3. Removing hat while In an enclosed means of transportation is optional. however it would be respectful to remove hat on a plane or share in a private cabin of train.
@@DavidLLambertmobile I might take it off in a plane, except if I want to sleep and offer my eyes a bit of shade ;) I am not sure traditional etiquette still applies in a day and age where wearing a hat is the exception rather than the rule. To me, deference is the key factor: when do you think a hat is appropriate or not depending on outdoor/indoor, public/private, but most importantly your social environment.
Exactly. I was raised in the South by a military family and was on active duty when I was older. I HATE seeing men wearing their hats indoors and at the dinner table. Those were strictly off-limits. It would be nice to see men dress more stylish these days or act gentlemanly.
Excellent video. As a former Marine, learning the intricacies of when one wears his "cover" in boot camp is as important as learning how to lace one's boots or clean one's rifle. Recruit Training is about learning a whole new system of etiquette even more so than shooting or doing pushups. Here's a little something that may interest you: When a servicemember is indoors, he is required to remove his headcovering except if he is "under arms", which is to say, actively carrying a weapon (or a symbol of a weapon, i.e. a badge or a belt) in the execution of his duty.
I have lived in Japan a long time, but love to wear classic hats. Here, whenever I "tip" my hat, the other person usually bows in reply. Surprisingly, even among quite young people, there is no confusion on this. However, the uniformed (and hatted) security guards at the universities where I work (usually rather older men) actually give me a military-style salute in return. Since I am a civilian, of course, I would never salute, hat or not. (I was military, decades ago, so I know better.)
Yes except for extremely esteemed soldiers (matter of choice) and per regulations any time a medal of honor recipitant is present and you salute the medal and recipient
" Wear a hat in public places, remove a hat in private spaces'. This has been the most applicable and helpful rule Ive learned here. I commonly wear hats, and this etiquette has served me well in hat-questionable situations. Thanks Preston and Gentleman's Gazette!
Preston, I may add: in public spaces, we also take off our hats when a funeral cortege passes as a sign of respect. And as a sign of veneration when the Blessed Sacrament is being carried, e.g. during a Corpus Christi procession or when a priest is bringing the communion of the sick.
I had no idea about the elevator one, but it makes sense; sending this to my father btw, as he is the hat wearer between he and I. One other rule on hat etiquette is to never mess with a another man's hat.
Really well done video, this one. I've worn hats and caps for many years, and the way I have thought about it is that if it feels socially suitable to remove one's overcoat, it is also time to remove one's hat. This video does a really good job of clarifying those situations. I had never really thought about removing my hat when getting help from a shop employee, but it exactly the kind of thing I would instinctively do.
I was surprised to find out the origin of the hat tip and it's morphology as it were. In military school, we called your hat a "cover" and followed many of these guidelines. I always thought of tipping the hat as the civilian version of the salute. Cool vid and I guess I better step up my hat game!
Dear Gentleman's Gazette team, I just finished watching your Video on Table manners , which you uploaded on 2018. For myself I have to say, that I'm very happy that my mother raised me the way she did, which means, that I at the young age of only 16 and a half years allready knew most of these manners. Eventhought I haven't watched that many videos you've uploaded, because I only found this channel yesterday, I highly appreciate the work you are doing. I allways try to leave a good first impression. Sitting straight at the dinner table, eating with a closed mouth to avoid the anoing sounds and even placing the fork and knife between 4 and 5 a clock is normal for me, but I've never seen a German eat bread in the way of taking a piece of it at a time eating it and then take another one. And that eventhought I'm German myself. It might be, because I haven't been in highly noble envirements, I mean I'm still a student, why should I, but even on family events or when we've been in a restaurante I have never seen this specific way of eating bread. I don't want to question that this formal act of consuming bread exists, I just want to say, that I've never witnessed it. I think that, even thought many people that I know, and even close fiends of mine consider me a gentlemen, I can learn a lot about being a propper gentlemen for my future, by watching content like yours.
I love this channel and these videos. They cover all of the rules of being a gentleman that were common knowledge "in the old country" lol. The 1960's era killed all of this, and to have this resource today is invaluable. Thank you Gentleman's Gazette for your generous contribution to bringing back a more polite and honorable society.
I enjoyed this review of civilian hat etiquette. It's interesting to compare the etiquette with the rules for military hat wear. Mostly they match with some exceptions. When under arms (wearing a sidearm while on watch for instance) you remain covered no matter where you are. When passing through a dinning area, or eating, you remove your hat, aka cover. When entering a military club, esp the bar, you remove your cover. If you don't you may find yourself buying a round for the room. If you place your cover on the bar you own everyone seated at the bar a drink. When on an active flight deck you remove your normal cover and if appropriate put on head and hearing protection. (Hats in engine intakes are not good for the engine.) During the national anthem, or that of other countries, when outdoors you leave the cover on, and salute. Boy can your arm get tired if several countries are represented in the same location. Thanks for the review, David
I'm retired AF and grew up in the South. Many of the rules my mom instructed my brother were the same as those we were taught in the military (I guess that makes sense as my father was a Ret Brig Gen). I'm still bothered by men wearing their hats indoors and at the dining table; it drives me bonkers! 😊
The biggest surprise for me was that you didn't mention hat etiquette for men meeting or talking to a lady, indoors or out. In my lifetime in England, that has probably been the only hat etiquette I've ever witnessed.
Enjoyed the video. Have worn hats a long time using the indoor/outdoor concept. Just in the past few years have I been introduced to the public/private idea. Well done.
Great vid. I personally tip my hat/cap very often, and I've noticed youngsters sometimes are a bit puzzled, but it hardly ever provokes an awkward "moment", so to speak. Of course, me being an old chap helps: I guess they very quickly understand (intuitively maybe), but it's indeed to be done as unaffectedly as possible: otherwise, yes, skip it.
Great video. I am a regular hat wearer, with a collection of fedoras, a couple of flat caps and rural, 'cowboy-style' hats. The one I love is a bushman's hat from South Africa made by Rogue. Regarding tipping, every time I've been in Australia - particularly into the countryside, I found it common practice for other hatted men to lightly tap the brim of their hats with forefinger and index finger, and a slight nod when passing another hatted man. Loved this little gesture.
Your public / private designation helped solve a quandary I found myself in a few years ago. Although there are still some questions. On a cruise ship, what is considered indoors and outdoors? Public and Private are a better rule, although since you pay for the cruise, I suppose one could argue the entire ship is private.
The public space vs private space breakdown makes so much sense. As an avid hat wearer, this is mostly what felt right to me, but having it articulated this way just made me feel validated. Thanks! lol
Outside - hat goes on. Inside - hat goes off. Also I think some commentary about different climates is relevant. From the polar to the equatorial, wearing a hat can be a life-saver.
Really enjoyed your video. The biggest issue for me is where to put the hat. Only having one free hand is a bit foreign if I'm walking through a museum for instance. I suppose it's just a bit I've got to get used to.
I think an area that's meant for you to remain moving like a museum could safely be considered public and therefore, hats on. I think I recall Preston saying something about keeping the hat on while moving.
If you're curious as to how to go about it, watch some old movies, and observe the way the men carry, hold, and treat their hats. It just may help... 🙂
I have the same issue as well. Provided it is not a foldable or crushable casual hat(those can go in an inside coat pocket), I now have a hat in one hand and possibly my walking stick in the other. I can't even offer my arm to my date, let alone do anything. Even without the stick, having 1 hand all evening would be an annoyance at best. More places should have coat/cloak rooms. They are very rare today.
In the old days when most gentlemen still wore hats, elevators often had a posted sign reading something like, "To conserve space, gentlemen are request not to remove their hats."
It's the one example I felt some disagreement to, myself. Though I'd suppose it comes down to the occupancy of the elevator at any given time. I'd feel like it's a misstep to doff the hat and take up more space in an already cramped enclosure and, as they said, it hearkens to a time where we had elevator attendants. Sans the attendant, I'd consider it as public as any tight hallway.
I am not even an adult, but I am already attempting to build my formal wear collection. As of now, it consists of a black bowler hat, black paisley silk tie, black paisley handkerchief and cufflinks, black blazer and matching trousers, white cotton cufflink shirt, thick woolen sack overcoat and clarks leather shoes. Update: thankfully, my taste and my wardrobe have improved. All items in my closet are of natural materials and traditional styles, yet my wardrobe shall increase ever more.
Your explanation on how you keep your hat on while in motion was something I never considered or heard before but I'm glad I know now. Outstanding video by the way. 😄
The military does a good job of teaching this. With some notable exception. Also some people's jobs in the military change the experience. The ones that come to mind are Military Police and aviation. Really though if you move around a lot on the post you will see many specific rules regarding your hat and get very comfortable taking it on and off without thinking.
If you are "under arms" or carrying-wearing firearms, you can wear headgear. There are no hard or fast rules indoors but most soldiers remove headgear indoors.
“don’t mind what others say”: Always me when it comes to clothing, but all people say is compliments to my gloves, shades, hats, watches, and shoes (literally everything except my actual outfit).
If I may, I think the key point is what you mentioned at 6:45, i.e. that uncovering yourself is a sign of deference and respect to your peers, and might be the main (if not only) rule of hat etiquette, especially nowadays where hats are not commonly worn by gentlemen. For instance, if you are in a public yet casual environment where very few people wear hats or any other classic garment, the presence of a hat can seem differentiating, and it could make sense to take off your hat even in public place, especially indoors. In that sense, I am not sure if the public/private space is still relevant nowadays.
I love things related to etiquette I love to see it in action and appreciate greatly it!☺I see so much etiquette getting lost or never taught it's great to see it here being discussed ❤
As an exception to the "in motion"-rule, I'd say airplanes should be considered private spaces, since you're being served by attendants and being seated. Though the airport should be considered a public space, except for some lounges, restaurants, etc.
Though, as a practical matter, when squeezing oneself through the cabin, and your, and everyone’s carryon bags…it is more practical to get to your seat, with your hat on. imo.
A very well done video on many levels. Thank you so much for sharing. Having never worn one, I just purchased my first nice, Fedora-style hat a few days ago and have already received a number of compliments from total strangers. I appreciated the kind words (as anyone my age does) but felt to myself the favorable impression was because of two things. One... I was patient and tried on lot's of hat's. When I finally found just what I wanted I didn't hesitate and brought home the brain bag. But the most important thing was I gave myself permission to express myself as I wanted. I wasn't waiting for cowboy or Mickey Spillane cat-calls from my friends. I let myself feel comfortable in my skin, as they say. I feel comfortable in my hat. Thanks for the tips on etiquette for one who tries to be a gentleman. Warmest regards, D
Question... I keep my hair cut short and well groomed, however if I opt to wear a hat inevitably after a hour or so I get "hat hair" leaving me to look poorly put together. Do you have any advice to prevent "hat hair" other than not wearing a hat to begin with?
As other commenters are pointing out, carrying a comb is the simplest solution (and one that I use, myself). On that note, you can take a look at our article & video on Everyday Carry (EDC) Essentials, here: www.gentlemansgazette.com/everyday-carry-edc-essentials/? Thanks for watching! - Preston
Yep, two solutions that are mutually exclusive: 1. Carry a small comb and use it after taking off your hat 2. Use a strong enough hair product, so that the hat doesn't affect the hair
Just to add my own two cents worth: I find that the comb/hair product tips don't work for me because the comb causes my hair to become frizzy and puff out in all the wrong places, but whenever I put in enough gel to prevent this, it makes my hair look really thin. The best solution I've found to prevent "hat hair" is to ask my barber to cut my hair just a bit shorter so that it isn't long enough for the hat to dishevel; not a buzz cut by any means, but short enough that after brushing it in the morning nothing short of a noogie would displace it. All the best!
Thank you for this video and your clear explanations. I usually go by the outdoor/indoor distinction. But the occasions I diverge from that are often times not in line with your public/private distinction. I am accustomed to the greeting etiquette of not just tipping the hat (just a military tradition here in Germany) but actually lifting the hat up - perhaps just for second if the greeting is in passing. So as taking the hat off is a sign of respect, I take the hat off when interacting with people. Because interaction most often takes place in a private setting, there are many cases where your rules and my habits coincide. But for example when riding on a train, where often small talk with your seat neighbour occurs, I take off my headware. But on a subway I do keep my headwear on - as people try to give each other space and do not invade each others privacy by small talk. Put maybe I am just odd and people were always too polite to correct my strange ways ;-)
This has been very helpful. I'm just getting into classic hats, and it's nice to have a resource to learn. I've got a cheap panama hat from Costco, but I plan to upgrade to a proper hat soon, and I've got a few vintage hats (a flatcap, trilby, a canvas fedora, and a winter fur hat that I don't know the name of) from my grandfather that I'm looking forward to exploring when we get into Fall and Winter.
Love love these videos. I wish the gentleman would become more popular. This level of politeness, care, intelligence, and propriety is absolutely delightful. Thank you Preston and all the gentlemen of the gazette!
I am going to let you in on an "amish loop hole" get a job that requires you to have to use a computer . OR " i need this phone for my job" Presto you are now buying an Iphone because " my job my need to get in contact. with me " "I swear to only use it for work" you ge thet picture.
Great video! My father (a WWII veteran who, despite his balding pate, hated wearing hats because of his time in the Army) always told me that a gentleman should remove his hat in private places & leave it on in public places, except when using motor transport (planes, trains & automobiles), when one would remove it as a courtesy to the other users, primarily so one doesn't block their view. When I served in the Royal Australian Navy, this was also the rule, with the added advantage of making it harder for the less socially adjusted to steal or make sport with the hat if you let your guard down. With these rules in mind, I have always removed my fedora while on the train during my commute to & from the city for work & fully intend to continue this practice. Not because I am in disagreement with your rules & guidelines but because I paid a lot of money for my hat & I wouldn't like to lose it...
As far as may hat etiquette goes I basically followed the military's model of headgear etiquette. That I learned during my time in the J.R.O.T.C. When outdoors wear your headgear. When indoors remove your headgear. However when on duty or in drill ceremonies indoors you must wear your headgear. Headgear is a general term for hats Where it's a beret, office cap, Combat uniform forage kap, or a helmet like the M88/ M84
Interesting video, my Dad, who is no longer with us, wore his old trilby almost all the time and he taught me that when you respect a person or an event such as a funeral or wedding, even if you're not actively part of it, you take your hat off out of respect. He said wearing a hat in those situations makes you appear to want to leave as soon as possible. I've followed these rules for so long it's second nature
I am traveling in Scotland and will wear semi formal highland attire. I was curious on how and when to wear my balmoral. This video was quite helpful. Ta.
Great video! There is one point where there are exceptions. When looking through old photos and movies of indoor sporting events, such as the very popular boxing matches, men were wearing hats. I've found many photos of indoor boxing matches with men sporting all types of hats and military, such as sailors who did not remove their sailor hats. I think a place like Madison Square Garden would still be considered public, at least to the 1930s-40s gent.
I have a question: when we remove the hat, how should we keep it when we are talking to a person? and when moving, for istance, inside a private space?
Great and informative video, as usual! Just a couple of questions, though... I've always believed that keeping your hat on while you're driving a car without an open top is a big no-no, while you said you always wear your hat when moving. I'm Italian BTW, maybe it's a cultural difference or something like that? Another curiosity is when you remove your hat at the restaurant and such, where/how do you put it (if there isn't an obvious hanging space available, of course)? I mean, when I sit at the table I remove my hat, granted, but then there's the awkward moment of "where do I put it?"
As a regular fedora wearer, if the roof of the car allows you to wear it, do so, if not, not. I think this rule applies more to flat caps, ball caps, ski caps. etc. I never tried wearing a fedora in a convertible, but I think the risk of losing the hat makes it a bad risk. The more upscale the restaurant, the more likely that they have accommodation for hats and overcoats. I seldom patronize those establishments, so I look for an empty chair nearby, or if worst comes to worst, I will place the hat on my right knee during the meal - not a perfect solution, but I think it is acceptable.
Just wanted to share my hat story from Italy which took place some 10 years ago - as a student, I was in Verona with my friends& colleagues, and me and one of my friends went to a walk and then decided to enter a hat store named "Borsalino" basically just for fun, to try some expensive hats and make a few pictures with them on if we can. The salesman, one experienced older man, didn't let us go out of his sight like he knew what we are up to so soon we decided to leave. Then he asked me if I'd rather buy a hat for 20€ and make a picture with it whenever I want instead of trying to do that in the closet of a hat store. I was kinda ashamed and I agreed and told him I'll pay with a credit card (owned by my parents, first time I had a credit card in my hands in my life) and when we exited I noticed on paper he billed me 200 €, not 20€. When we came back he was pretending we didn't understand him and there was a language barrier, and didn't wanted to cancel payment. I want back home, had some problems with my parents, tried to wear that hat at least a couple times a year, but I think last year "Borsalino" bankrupted and for that series of hats you can take like 500€ on e-bay. I don't need money right now at all, but as it turned out I will be the one laughing in the end after all those years if I sell it for like 300€ more than I originally payed.
I just subscribed and im not really much of a guy who wears hats but I got a fedora and I love the hat and it suits me. I want to start getting cleaned up and start wearing hats I will tip the hat to those its no different from saluting. I was in ROTC and I salute our fighting men and women and salute our veterans.
If in public space you should you remove your hat when a funeral cortege or Hearse passes? In England it is considered as a mark of respect regardless of who the person may have been... to remove your hat.....
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the modern equivalent of bowing or hat tipping is *the nod*. Nodding up at someone is a gesture of familiarity. Nodding downward is respect.
So, quick question. I know most knit hooded sweaters are seen as quite informal in most circles, but would the rules for removing hats in private areas apply to garment hoods as well? The reason why I ask is that I've instructed my nephews to " remove their jacket hoods when they enter establishments, for it's proper ettiquette to do so." and want to set a good example for them.
Great video, Preston. The private/public rule is very good. I love your pocket square fold! I would appreciate it very much if you could you tell me the name of the fold or how to achieve it please. Thank you!
Hello, I have bought a few vintage suits and separates based on some of your videos. I do need help on how to get rid of that old Closet odor though. I have taken some to the cleaners but the smell comes back. I was hoping you could give me some tips, thank you very much!
When I was in the Coast Guard it was required that you remove your cover (hat) when going onto the mess deck unless you were armed or the cook. This was from the the tradition that the mess deck was where the Corpsman or Surgeon conducted operations on crew members. I was on one WW2 ship where surgery actually happened during that war and the Chief Cook was adamant that you uncover on HIS mess deck. You also uncovered in Officer country, especially the Captain's cabin.
Very similar to the rules we have to follow in the Military. Thank you for the lesson I will keep this in my pocket for next time I'm asked by a new troop.
Thank you so much for sharing this informative video. I was surprised that the mention of the "hat tip" was so brief. Like some skills I would imagine that it might be easy to wear a hat but that it takes care and practice to wear one as a proper gentleman in today's world. Cheers!
Very helpful and succinct explanation of public vs private spaces as relates to hats. The only thing that came as a surprise (mildly) was the information that hat tipping nowadays is appropriate towards women (as is traditional) but also men. Perhaps because I learned hat etiquette in Texas over 40 years ago, I have always had a somewhat nuanced understanding of the rules. Basically, you never tip your hat to a man, and never to a woman accompanied by a man, whether you have been introduced to the woman or not, unless the couple is well known to you socially, as from church, club or possibly work. In San Antonio in 1980 tipping your hat to a man could be considered an insult. The explanation of the elevator rule is interesting. I was taught by my father to remove my hat in an elevator when I was about five, but I never understood exactly why.
I would have many things to ask about the hat etiquette: If there is no place to hang your hat on at a restaurant - or even a house for that matter - where do you put it? On a chair? upside down? etc... Supposedly no one should mess or touch your hat; do you let a waiter or host take your hat to a proper place? How do you carry it when seated at a waiting room: put it on your lap, always on your hand? What if you don't get to be seated because of insufficient chairs or crowded space? If you are in motion from one office to the next do you wear it? -Let's say from a job interview to another with a different company officer or would be boss-. Is wearing a hat to a job interview even acceptable? I guess in funerals its hats off at all times? Would you take one to these events? How about when playing pool or billiard? How about taking class as a student or impartng a class as a teacher at school? Oops that was may be too much...!
BIG question. I wear hats consistently to cover the solar panel but I am curious where to put it while in the restaurant? I don't want to leave it on the floor and usually there are not other seats to place it on. Thanks for helping me have the look of a gentleman!
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Thanks for this great video. But one question: What is when I have a barbecue with friends? That's outdoor but private.
Question: Must the hat be removed when a gentleman is checking out at the cash register because of the interaction with the cashier? Thank you. Great video.
Thank you for this much needed video on proper hat etiquette. I would appreciate a follow up on how exactly and when to tip your hat to someone. There seems to not be any information on this lost custom. Regards,
I was surprised by the suggestion of doffing the hat while at a large indoor sports arena. I consider that a public space whether indoors or out. I also have mixed feelings about public elevators, I usually leave my hat on, but feel guilty when there's an older lady or two on board. I've tipped my hat on occasion, but feel the gesture is lost on the other party.
I was surprised by that, also. I have my father’s US Army Officer’s Guide from about 1961, and it has a section on when to remove one’s hat and when to leave it on. It mentioned specifically that it was proper to leave one’s hat on in an indoor sporting arena. On the flip side, legendary football coach Tom Landry always removed his hat when the Dallas Cowboys were playing in an entirely indoor stadium.
That vintage trilby, if I am not mistaken, has a Cavenagh Edge to it. The Cavenagh edge stitching is invisible and is cleverly hidden within the fur felt with no visible stitching on the top or the bottom of the edge. These vintage fedoras are highly prized by collectors, because it was the most time consuming and expensive stye of fedoras. I am not sure if anyone in the millinery world still knows how the reproduce the process. Unfortunately it seems to be a lost art.
Fascinating how cap tipping makes people feel "affected." Not talking about full removal, but just a thumb to the brim. I've found it to be an incredibly useful social gesture, and not just in fedoras or panamas (which I rarely wear), but in ball caps and visors. You do it when you want to acknowledge another person's presence and your respect for it. Not an expression of obedience, mind you (unless you're in the military), just acknowledgment. Walking into a bar? Cap-tip the bouncer. It's an even better expression of gratitude -- use it in place of the thank-you wave. And pretty much every time the recipient understands perfectly the message behind the gesture, and appreciates it. And if you can get over your affectedness, you find you don't even need a hat to do it. The gesture is simple, and universally understood. And that's kind of strange -- if no one's doing it, why does everyone know what it. means? .
when I want to wear a hat, I wear a hat. when I don't want to wear a hat, I don't. being a gentleman is more about being gentle and meekly polite, authentically, more than it is about following rule for dress that aren't always practical. I hope this didn't seem mean or bitter. I see so many new people in my home town these days that follow these rules, but have class lower than that of members of the "homeward bound" (hobo) community. may everyone having read this have a good day :)
Exceptions to the general rule on hotel and hotel pool areas. If you go to a pool at a hotel in Palm Springs or a casino in Las Vegas, the necessity of wearing a hat outweighs the general rule. If I am in an expansive lobby of a hotel (as contrasted to a club), an area becomes private space only if I am in a conversation with some one in a specific area. If I am wearing a top hat and go to a dance, I will follow the general rules except for perhaps one dance as it will have entertainment value.
Great video man. Appreciate the very clear delivery. What about a hat on an airplane? You paid to get in there.... You may eat... Seems private. But you are in motion.
Thanks for the heart.... But what was the answer?
A very good question! Planes and trains bend the "motion" rule to some extent, as they're typically conveyances used for much longer journeys. As another commenter pointed out below, a hat is fundamentally a piece of outerwear, much the same as an overcoat. So, if you'd find it comfortable to remove your coat on a plane or train trip, you could acceptably remove your hat in such circumstances, as well. Thanks for watching!
- Preston
Gentleman's Gazette - Great video. I like the public/private space breakdown as you provided specific guidance for most common situations. However, for those who are ever unsure, no one would ever fault you erring on the side of caution and having strict policy of 1. Remove your hat off once indoors. 2. Remove hat when sharing of a meal while sitting. 3. Removing hat while In an enclosed means of transportation is optional. however it would be respectful to remove hat on a plane or share in a private cabin of train.
I'd wear a hat or cap on a plane. Unless you are sleeping, I'd keep it on.
@@DavidLLambertmobile I might take it off in a plane, except if I want to sleep and offer my eyes a bit of shade ;) I am not sure traditional etiquette still applies in a day and age where wearing a hat is the exception rather than the rule. To me, deference is the key factor: when do you think a hat is appropriate or not depending on outdoor/indoor, public/private, but most importantly your social environment.
I'm a woman but I'm still watching this. I love it. Gentlemen are really rare nowadays. I really appreciate it. ❤️
Exactly. I was raised in the South by a military family and was on active duty when I was older. I HATE seeing men wearing their hats indoors and at the dinner table. Those were strictly off-limits. It would be nice to see men dress more stylish these days or act gentlemanly.
Excellent video.
As a former Marine, learning the intricacies of when one wears his "cover" in boot camp is as important as learning how to lace one's boots or clean one's rifle. Recruit Training is about learning a whole new system of etiquette even more so than shooting or doing pushups.
Here's a little something that may interest you: When a servicemember is indoors, he is required to remove his headcovering except if he is "under arms", which is to say, actively carrying a weapon (or a symbol of a weapon, i.e. a badge or a belt) in the execution of his duty.
I have lived in Japan a long time, but love to wear classic hats. Here, whenever I "tip" my hat, the other person usually bows in reply. Surprisingly, even among quite young people, there is no confusion on this. However, the uniformed (and hatted) security guards at the universities where I work (usually rather older men) actually give me a military-style salute in return. Since I am a civilian, of course, I would never salute, hat or not. (I was military, decades ago, so I know better.)
Yes except for extremely esteemed soldiers (matter of choice) and per regulations any time a medal of honor recipitant is present and you salute the medal and recipient
@@wesleybarrett9502 . . yes, sir - that part!
I’d thank them for their service if they were veterans
*Being male is a matter of birth. Being a man is a matter of age. But being a gentleman is a matter of choice. - Vin Diesel*
couldn't agree more, some men want to be boys, and never grow up.
I’m going to use that one.
When did Vin diesel say it?
Vin Diesel? Haha
Vin Diesel? really?
" Wear a hat in public places, remove a hat in private spaces'. This has been the most applicable and helpful rule Ive learned here. I commonly wear hats, and this etiquette has served me well in hat-questionable situations. Thanks Preston and Gentleman's Gazette!
Preston, I may add: in public spaces, we also take off our hats when a funeral cortege passes as a sign of respect. And as a sign of veneration when the Blessed Sacrament is being carried, e.g. during a Corpus Christi procession or when a priest is bringing the communion of the sick.
My daddy taught me at a young age to remove my hat when I go into a house.
In Roman Catholic churches the normal etiquette is that all men must remove their hats. Maybe the exception is if the mass is held outdoors.
I had no idea about the elevator one, but it makes sense; sending this to my father btw, as he is the hat wearer between he and I. One other rule on hat etiquette is to never mess with a another man's hat.
Between him and me. Prepositions that precede require the use of pronouns in their objective case.
@Nigel Cam True. I always was taught that a man can wear a hat in an elevator but if a lady walks in, he should remove it.
@Nigel Cam the channel is called the Gentlemen's Gazette not the people's gazette
It is considered, bad manners to wear a hat indoors, or has my father says, it don't rain indoors, so take it of
Yes, my Dad told me you don't touch another bloke's hat.
Really well done video, this one. I've worn hats and caps for many years, and the way I have thought about it is that if it feels socially suitable to remove one's overcoat, it is also time to remove one's hat. This video does a really good job of clarifying those situations. I had never really thought about removing my hat when getting help from a shop employee, but it exactly the kind of thing I would instinctively do.
The overcoat parallel is an effective one, yes. Thanks for watching!
- Preston
I was surprised to find out the origin of the hat tip and it's morphology as it were. In military school, we called your hat a "cover" and followed many of these guidelines. I always thought of tipping the hat as the civilian version of the salute. Cool vid and I guess I better step up my hat game!
Dear Gentleman's Gazette team,
I just finished watching your Video on Table manners , which you uploaded on 2018. For myself I have to say, that I'm very happy that my mother raised me the way she did, which means, that I at the young age of only 16 and a half years allready knew most of these manners.
Eventhought I haven't watched that many videos you've uploaded, because I only found this channel yesterday, I highly appreciate the work you are doing. I allways try to leave a good first impression. Sitting straight at the dinner table, eating with a closed mouth to avoid the anoing sounds and even placing the fork and knife between 4 and 5 a clock is normal for me, but I've never seen a German eat bread in the way of taking a piece of it at a time eating it and then take another one. And that eventhought I'm German myself.
It might be, because I haven't been in highly noble envirements, I mean I'm still a student, why should I, but even on family events or when we've been in a restaurante I have never seen this specific way of eating bread.
I don't want to question that this formal act of consuming bread exists, I just want to say, that I've never witnessed it.
I think that, even thought many people that I know, and even close fiends of mine consider me a gentlemen, I can learn a lot about being a propper gentlemen for my future, by watching content like yours.
I love this channel and these videos. They cover all of the rules of being a gentleman that were common knowledge "in the old country" lol.
The 1960's era killed all of this, and to have this resource today is invaluable. Thank you Gentleman's Gazette for your generous contribution to bringing back a more polite and honorable society.
I enjoyed this review of civilian hat etiquette. It's interesting to compare the etiquette with the rules for military hat wear. Mostly they match with some exceptions. When under arms (wearing a sidearm while on watch for instance) you remain covered no matter where you are. When passing through a dinning area, or eating, you remove your hat, aka cover. When entering a military club, esp the bar, you remove your cover. If you don't you may find yourself buying a round for the room. If you place your cover on the bar you own everyone seated at the bar a drink. When on an active flight deck you remove your normal cover and if appropriate put on head and hearing protection. (Hats in engine intakes are not good for the engine.) During the national anthem, or that of other countries, when outdoors you leave the cover on, and salute. Boy can your arm get tired if several countries are represented in the same location.
Thanks for the review,
David
I'm retired AF and grew up in the South. Many of the rules my mom instructed my brother were the same as those we were taught in the military (I guess that makes sense as my father was a Ret Brig Gen). I'm still bothered by men wearing their hats indoors and at the dining table; it drives me bonkers! 😊
The biggest surprise for me was that you didn't mention hat etiquette for men meeting or talking to a lady, indoors or out. In my lifetime in England, that has probably been the only hat etiquette I've ever witnessed.
Enjoyed the video. Have worn hats a long time using the indoor/outdoor concept. Just in the past few years have I been introduced to the public/private idea. Well done.
Great vid. I personally tip my hat/cap very often, and I've noticed youngsters sometimes are a bit puzzled, but it hardly ever provokes an awkward "moment", so to speak. Of course, me being an old chap helps: I guess they very quickly understand (intuitively maybe), but it's indeed to be done as unaffectedly as possible: otherwise, yes, skip it.
Great video. I am a regular hat wearer, with a collection of fedoras, a couple of flat caps and rural, 'cowboy-style' hats. The one I love is a bushman's hat from South Africa made by Rogue.
Regarding tipping, every time I've been in Australia - particularly into the countryside, I found it common practice for other hatted men to lightly tap the brim of their hats with forefinger and index finger, and a slight nod when passing another hatted man. Loved this little gesture.
Your public / private designation helped solve a quandary I found myself in a few years ago. Although there are still some questions. On a cruise ship, what is considered indoors and outdoors? Public and Private are a better rule, although since you pay for the cruise, I suppose one could argue the entire ship is private.
Very nice outfit and a great hat.
The public space vs private space breakdown makes so much sense. As an avid hat wearer, this is mostly what felt right to me, but having it articulated this way just made me feel validated. Thanks! lol
Outside - hat goes on. Inside - hat goes off. Also I think some commentary about different climates is relevant. From the polar to the equatorial, wearing a hat can be a life-saver.
Really enjoyed your video. The biggest issue for me is where to put the hat. Only having one free hand is a bit foreign if I'm walking through a museum for instance. I suppose it's just a bit I've got to get used to.
I agree.
When I'm stealing artifacts from museums, i too prefer both hands free.
I think an area that's meant for you to remain moving like a museum could safely be considered public and therefore, hats on. I think I recall Preston saying something about keeping the hat on while moving.
If you're curious as to how to go about it, watch some old movies, and observe the way the men carry, hold, and treat their hats. It just may help... 🙂
@@tootsownhorn5874while heisting a museum, proper etiquette is to keep your gloves and headwear on, particularly if it conceals your face.
I have the same issue as well. Provided it is not a foldable or crushable casual hat(those can go in an inside coat pocket), I now have a hat in one hand and possibly my walking stick in the other. I can't even offer my arm to my date, let alone do anything. Even without the stick, having 1 hand all evening would be an annoyance at best.
More places should have coat/cloak rooms. They are very rare today.
In the old days when most gentlemen still wore hats, elevators often had a posted sign reading something like, "To conserve space, gentlemen are request not to remove their hats."
It's the one example I felt some disagreement to, myself. Though I'd suppose it comes down to the occupancy of the elevator at any given time. I'd feel like it's a misstep to doff the hat and take up more space in an already cramped enclosure and, as they said, it hearkens to a time where we had elevator attendants. Sans the attendant, I'd consider it as public as any tight hallway.
as a rule, I remove my hat when women enter the elevator and leave it on if its just men (unless its impractical).
Thank you. Welsh rabbit, sir
Makes no sense. 10 guys wearing hats will take up less space in an elevator than 10 guys holding their hats.
@@rogerp4612 that is why men were requested not to take off their hats. :do not take off your hat"
the "public/private" and "when in motion" guidelines are gold! Thank you!
I am not even an adult, but I am already attempting to build my formal wear collection. As of now, it consists of a black bowler hat, black paisley silk tie, black paisley handkerchief and cufflinks, black blazer and matching trousers, white cotton cufflink shirt, thick woolen sack overcoat and clarks leather shoes.
Update: thankfully, my taste and my wardrobe have improved. All items in my closet are of natural materials and traditional styles, yet my wardrobe shall increase ever more.
I once worked at Clarks.
Nice shoes.
Your explanation on how you keep your hat on while in motion was something I never considered or heard before but I'm glad I know now. Outstanding video by the way. 😄
The military does a good job of teaching this. With some notable exception. Also some people's jobs in the military change the experience. The ones that come to mind are Military Police and aviation. Really though if you move around a lot on the post you will see many specific rules regarding your hat and get very comfortable taking it on and off without thinking.
If you are "under arms" or carrying-wearing firearms, you can wear headgear. There are no hard or fast rules indoors but most soldiers remove headgear indoors.
In the navy hats indoors is prohibited, and saluting uncovered is prohibited. Every branch is different
@@TheDeadPirateBob Very good points.
Great video, I like this gentleman don’t mind what others say.
“don’t mind what others say”: Always me when it comes to clothing, but all people say is compliments to my gloves, shades, hats, watches, and shoes (literally everything except my actual outfit).
If I may, I think the key point is what you mentioned at 6:45, i.e. that uncovering yourself is a sign of deference and respect to your peers, and might be the main (if not only) rule of hat etiquette, especially nowadays where hats are not commonly worn by gentlemen. For instance, if you are in a public yet casual environment where very few people wear hats or any other classic garment, the presence of a hat can seem differentiating, and it could make sense to take off your hat even in public place, especially indoors. In that sense, I am not sure if the public/private space is still relevant nowadays.
I love things related to etiquette I love to see it in action and appreciate greatly it!☺I see so much etiquette getting lost or never taught it's great to see it here being discussed ❤
As an exception to the "in motion"-rule, I'd say airplanes should be considered private spaces, since you're being served by attendants and being seated. Though the airport should be considered a public space, except for some lounges, restaurants, etc.
you are also serviced on a train and seated but the rule on the train is to keep the hat on
Also, according to the video, a gentleman should keep his hat on while seated in a car… that can be awkward with a low roof and high headrest.
Though, as a practical matter, when squeezing oneself through the cabin, and your, and everyone’s carryon bags…it is more practical to get to your seat, with your hat on. imo.
A very well done video on many levels. Thank you so much for sharing.
Having never worn one, I just purchased my first nice, Fedora-style hat a few days ago and have already received a number of compliments from total strangers.
I appreciated the kind words (as anyone my age does) but felt to myself the favorable impression was because of two things. One... I was patient and tried on lot's of hat's. When I finally found just what I wanted I didn't hesitate and brought home the brain bag. But the most important thing was I gave myself permission to express myself as I wanted. I wasn't waiting for cowboy or Mickey Spillane cat-calls from my friends. I let myself feel comfortable in my skin, as they say. I feel comfortable in my hat.
Thanks for the tips on etiquette for one who tries to be a gentleman.
Warmest regards,
D
Question...
I keep my hair cut short and well groomed, however if I opt to wear a hat inevitably after a hour or so I get "hat hair" leaving me to look poorly put together. Do you have any advice to prevent "hat hair" other than not wearing a hat to begin with?
When I had glorious hair I carried a comb.
you might use a hair comb, a small one will do the trick
As other commenters are pointing out, carrying a comb is the simplest solution (and one that I use, myself). On that note, you can take a look at our article & video on Everyday Carry (EDC) Essentials, here:
www.gentlemansgazette.com/everyday-carry-edc-essentials/?
Thanks for watching!
- Preston
Yep, two solutions that are mutually exclusive:
1. Carry a small comb and use it after taking off your hat
2. Use a strong enough hair product, so that the hat doesn't affect the hair
Just to add my own two cents worth:
I find that the comb/hair product tips don't work for me because the comb causes my hair to become frizzy and puff out in all the wrong places, but whenever I put in enough gel to prevent this, it makes my hair look really thin. The best solution I've found to prevent "hat hair" is to ask my barber to cut my hair just a bit shorter so that it isn't long enough for the hat to dishevel; not a buzz cut by any means, but short enough that after brushing it in the morning nothing short of a noogie would displace it. All the best!
Thank you for this video and your clear explanations. I usually go by the outdoor/indoor distinction. But the occasions I diverge from that are often times not in line with your public/private distinction. I am accustomed to the greeting etiquette of not just tipping the hat (just a military tradition here in Germany) but actually lifting the hat up - perhaps just for second if the greeting is in passing. So as taking the hat off is a sign of respect, I take the hat off when interacting with people. Because interaction most often takes place in a private setting, there are many cases where your rules and my habits coincide. But for example when riding on a train, where often small talk with your seat neighbour occurs, I take off my headware. But on a subway I do keep my headwear on - as people try to give each other space and do not invade each others privacy by small talk.
Put maybe I am just odd and people were always too polite to correct my strange ways ;-)
My grandma used to call the foyers the "four your" I love you guys this warms me up gq style
Wow! Preston's delivery is really improving! Great video!!
I rarely wear hats because my size is 7 3/4. I just found a Donegal Tweed Irish Walking Hat in that size, so this content will come in handy. Thanks.
I love seeing men take off their hat, shows respect.😎
Different for women etiquette though.
Once again, great job Preston!
This has been very helpful. I'm just getting into classic hats, and it's nice to have a resource to learn. I've got a cheap panama hat from Costco, but I plan to upgrade to a proper hat soon, and I've got a few vintage hats (a flatcap, trilby, a canvas fedora, and a winter fur hat that I don't know the name of) from my grandfather that I'm looking forward to exploring when we get into Fall and Winter.
Love love these videos. I wish the gentleman would become more popular. This level of politeness, care, intelligence, and propriety is absolutely delightful. Thank you Preston and all the gentlemen of the gazette!
Watching videos such as this just makes me even smarter than before.
I really enjoyed watching this video.
Thanks for the video much appreciated I had a question and I was wondering if your leg is alright? I was concerned.
Stylish sorry to hear that
In my years of military service I generally followed the basic when outdoors hat on & when indoors hat off, but was nice to get more specifics.
A long awaited one, thank you!
As an Amish person this really helped me a lot . Thank you so much .
How are you watching this bro. You smuggling stuff in to the amish?
I am going to let you in on an "amish loop hole" get a job that requires you to have to use a computer . OR " i need this phone for my job" Presto you are now buying an Iphone because " my job my need to get in contact. with me " "I swear to only use it for work" you ge thet picture.
It's wonderful to see you. Thank you for all your advice.
Great video!
My father (a WWII veteran who, despite his balding pate, hated wearing hats because of his time in the Army) always told me that a gentleman should remove his hat in private places & leave it on in public places, except when using motor transport (planes, trains & automobiles), when one would remove it as a courtesy to the other users, primarily so one doesn't block their view. When I served in the Royal Australian Navy, this was also the rule, with the added advantage of making it harder for the less socially adjusted to steal or make sport with the hat if you let your guard down.
With these rules in mind, I have always removed my fedora while on the train during my commute to & from the city for work & fully intend to continue this practice. Not because I am in disagreement with your rules & guidelines but because I paid a lot of money for my hat & I wouldn't like to lose it...
My dad always just said "Always take your hat off indoors". Good thing you educated me so now I don't have to freeze in the supermarket or in my car.
As far as may hat etiquette goes I basically followed the military's model of headgear etiquette.
That I learned during my time in the J.R.O.T.C.
When outdoors wear your headgear.
When indoors remove your headgear.
However when on duty or in drill ceremonies indoors you must wear your headgear.
Headgear is a general term for hats
Where it's a beret, office cap, Combat uniform forage kap, or a helmet like the M88/ M84
Stylish and classic look sir. Also the use of the word trouser shows you are a man of culture, and I would indeed, tip my hat to you.
Interesting video, my Dad, who is no longer with us, wore his old trilby almost all the time and he taught me that when you respect a person or an event such as a funeral or wedding, even if you're not actively part of it, you take your hat off out of respect. He said wearing a hat in those situations makes you appear to want to leave as soon as possible. I've followed these rules for so long it's second nature
I am traveling in Scotland and will wear semi formal highland attire. I was curious on how and when to wear my balmoral. This video was quite helpful. Ta.
Great video! There is one point where there are exceptions. When looking through old photos and movies of indoor sporting events, such as the very popular boxing matches, men were wearing hats. I've found many photos of indoor boxing matches with men sporting all types of hats and military, such as sailors who did not remove their sailor hats. I think a place like Madison Square Garden would still be considered public, at least to the 1930s-40s gent.
Of course, there were exceptions to the no wearing hats indoors rule, like in corridors, lobbies, etc.
I have a question: when we remove the hat, how should we keep it when we are talking to a person? and when moving, for istance, inside a private space?
Great and informative video, as usual!
Just a couple of questions, though... I've always believed that keeping your hat on while you're driving a car without an open top is a big no-no, while you said you always wear your hat when moving. I'm Italian BTW, maybe it's a cultural difference or something like that?
Another curiosity is when you remove your hat at the restaurant and such, where/how do you put it (if there isn't an obvious hanging space available, of course)? I mean, when I sit at the table I remove my hat, granted, but then there's the awkward moment of "where do I put it?"
As a regular fedora wearer, if the roof of the car allows you to wear it, do so, if not, not. I think this rule applies more to flat caps, ball caps, ski caps. etc. I never tried wearing a fedora in a convertible, but I think the risk of losing the hat makes it a bad risk.
The more upscale the restaurant, the more likely that they have accommodation for hats and overcoats. I seldom patronize those establishments, so I look for an empty chair nearby, or if worst comes to worst, I will place the hat on my right knee during the meal - not a perfect solution, but I think it is acceptable.
Good work Preston 👍
Just wanted to share my hat story from Italy which took place some 10 years ago - as a student, I was in Verona with my friends& colleagues, and me and one of my friends went to a walk and then decided to enter a hat store named "Borsalino" basically just for fun, to try some expensive hats and make a few pictures with them on if we can.
The salesman, one experienced older man, didn't let us go out of his sight like he knew what we are up to so soon we decided to leave. Then he asked me if I'd rather buy a hat for 20€ and make a picture with it whenever I want instead of trying to do that in the closet of a hat store.
I was kinda ashamed and I agreed and told him I'll pay with a credit card (owned by my parents, first time I had a credit card in my hands in my life) and when we exited I noticed on paper he billed me 200 €, not 20€.
When we came back he was pretending we didn't understand him and there was a language barrier, and didn't wanted to cancel payment.
I want back home, had some problems with my parents, tried to wear that hat at least a couple times a year, but I think last year "Borsalino" bankrupted and for that series of hats you can take like 500€ on e-bay.
I don't need money right now at all, but as it turned out I will be the one laughing in the end after all those years if I sell it for like 300€ more than I originally payed.
Mr. Preston, you have once again helped me greatly.
I just subscribed and im not really much of a guy who wears hats but I got a fedora and I love the hat and it suits me. I want to start getting cleaned up and start wearing hats I will tip the hat to those its no different from saluting. I was in ROTC and I salute our fighting men and women and salute our veterans.
What happened to Raphael? I enjoyed his accent and his delivery.
his family enlarged +1. hence he is now a bit bit bit occupied with daddy duties, i guess.
I really need a channel like this for woman! But I love this too ❤️
Like they trained me in the army. If outside, hat on. If inside, hat off. Simple! Thank you !
Excellent, informative, concise and delivered with some understated self effacing humour.
If in public space you should you remove your hat when a funeral cortege or Hearse passes? In England it is considered as a mark of respect regardless of who the person may have been... to remove your hat.....
Good practice.
It’s a piece of fabric on your head. The fact that people think it’s disrespectful is mind boggling
@@joedellaccio4657 Probably because you have no class.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the modern equivalent of bowing or hat tipping is *the nod*. Nodding up at someone is a gesture of familiarity. Nodding downward is respect.
Cody Smith I couldn’t agree more
I learned about hat etiquette thru watching old movies; I found the private/public space model to be consistent with what I saw in film
So, quick question. I know most knit hooded sweaters are seen as quite informal in most circles, but would the rules for removing hats in private areas apply to garment hoods as well? The reason why I ask is that I've instructed my nephews to " remove their jacket hoods when they enter establishments, for it's proper ettiquette to do so." and want to set a good example for them.
Great video, Preston. The private/public rule is very good. I love your pocket square fold! I would appreciate it very much if you could you tell me the name of the fold or how to achieve it please. Thank you!
Hello, I have bought a few vintage suits and separates based on some of your videos.
I do need help on how to get rid of that old Closet odor though. I have taken some to the cleaners but the smell comes back. I was hoping you could give me some tips, thank you very much!
Mmm... a smooth looking guy. Great video. Appreciated!
When I was in the Coast Guard it was required that you remove your cover (hat) when going onto the mess deck unless you were armed or the cook. This was from the the tradition that the mess deck was where the Corpsman or Surgeon conducted operations on crew members. I was on one WW2 ship where surgery actually happened during that war and the Chief Cook was adamant that you uncover on HIS mess deck. You also uncovered in Officer country, especially the Captain's cabin.
Very similar to the rules we have to follow in the Military. Thank you for the lesson I will keep this in my pocket for next time I'm asked by a new troop.
Thank you so much for sharing this informative video. I was surprised that the mention of the "hat tip" was so brief. Like some skills I would imagine that it might be easy to wear a hat but that it takes care and practice to wear one as a proper gentleman in today's world. Cheers!
Very helpful and succinct explanation of public vs private spaces as relates to hats. The only thing that came as a surprise (mildly) was the information that hat tipping nowadays is appropriate towards women (as is traditional) but also men. Perhaps because I learned hat etiquette in Texas over 40 years ago, I have always had a somewhat nuanced understanding of the rules. Basically, you never tip your hat to a man, and never to a woman accompanied by a man, whether you have been introduced to the woman or not, unless the couple is well known to you socially, as from church, club or possibly work. In San Antonio in 1980 tipping your hat to a man could be considered an insult. The explanation of the elevator rule is interesting. I was taught by my father to remove my hat in an elevator when I was about five, but I never understood exactly why.
Good job. This kind of orientation is never too much.
Ivy or flat cap is best I find , not to fancy and strikes a balance .
I asked for this video (ages ago).
Thank you for making such high quailty videos.
I would have many things to ask about the hat etiquette:
If there is no place to hang your hat on at a restaurant - or even a house for that matter - where do you put it? On a chair? upside down? etc...
Supposedly no one should mess or touch your hat; do you let a waiter or host take your hat to a proper place?
How do you carry it when seated at a waiting room: put it on your lap, always on your hand? What if you don't get to be seated because of insufficient chairs or crowded space?
If you are in motion from one office to the next do you wear it? -Let's say from a job interview to another with a different company officer or would be boss-.
Is wearing a hat to a job interview even acceptable?
I guess in funerals its hats off at all times? Would you take one to these events?
How about when playing pool or billiard?
How about taking class as a student or impartng a class as a teacher at school?
Oops that was may be too much...!
BIG question. I wear hats consistently to cover the solar panel but I am curious where to put it while in the restaurant? I don't want to leave it on the floor and usually there are not other seats to place it on. Thanks for helping me have the look of a gentleman!
Thanks for this great video. But one question: What is when I have a barbecue with friends? That's outdoor but private.
Would one apply the same with sunglasses ?
This entire video is simply explaining all the good manners that were beat into me as a boy growing up in the south.
Thanks. Is there certain hats every gentleman should have?
Question: how about outdoor restaurants or al fresco meals? Hat or no hat?
In general, keep it on.
It can depend on the weather. Hats are functional, which can override etiquette.
What about flag ceremony? Or presentaation of flag? When flag is moviing? Lowerering or raising flag?
Question: Must the hat be removed when a gentleman is checking out at the cash register because of the interaction with the cashier? Thank you. Great video.
Awesome, have been waiting for this video for ages! :)
Great video and long overdue. Thanks so much for the additional information.
Thank you for this much needed video on proper hat etiquette. I would appreciate a follow up on how exactly and when to tip your hat to someone. There seems to not be any information on this lost custom. Regards,
I was surprised by the suggestion of doffing the hat while at a large indoor sports arena. I consider that a public space whether indoors or out. I also have mixed feelings about public elevators, I usually leave my hat on, but feel guilty when there's an older lady or two on board. I've tipped my hat on occasion, but feel the gesture is lost on the other party.
I was surprised by that, also. I have my father’s US Army Officer’s Guide from about 1961, and it has a section on when to remove one’s hat and when to leave it on. It mentioned specifically that it was proper to leave one’s hat on in an indoor sporting arena. On the flip side, legendary football coach Tom Landry always removed his hat when the Dallas Cowboys were playing in an entirely indoor stadium.
I always love the Laurel and Hardy sketch that involves removing hats indoors, with Stan Laurel fighting it out with the chef
Great stuff. As you can see I'm a racing Trilby man, love a baker boy as well.
That vintage trilby, if I am not mistaken, has a Cavenagh Edge to it. The Cavenagh edge stitching is invisible and is cleverly hidden within the fur felt with no visible stitching on the top or the bottom of the edge. These vintage fedoras are highly prized by collectors, because it was the most time consuming and expensive stye of fedoras. I am not sure if anyone in the millinery world still knows how the reproduce the process. Unfortunately it seems to be a lost art.
Could you recommend a hat color if you can only have one? I'm torn between a light sand color and a light brown/fawn. Which would be more versatile?
Fascinating how cap tipping makes people feel "affected." Not talking about full removal, but just a thumb to the brim. I've found it to be an incredibly useful social gesture, and not just in fedoras or panamas (which I rarely wear), but in ball caps and visors.
You do it when you want to acknowledge another person's presence and your respect for it. Not an expression of obedience, mind you (unless you're in the military), just acknowledgment. Walking into a bar? Cap-tip the bouncer. It's an even better expression of gratitude -- use it in place of the thank-you wave. And pretty much every time the recipient understands perfectly the message behind the gesture, and appreciates it.
And if you can get over your affectedness, you find you don't even need a hat to do it. The gesture is simple, and universally understood. And that's kind of strange -- if no one's doing it, why does everyone know what it. means?
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when I want to wear a hat, I wear a hat. when I don't want to wear a hat, I don't. being a gentleman is more about being gentle and meekly polite, authentically, more than it is about following rule for dress that aren't always practical. I hope this didn't seem mean or bitter. I see so many new people in my home town these days that follow these rules, but have class lower than that of members of the "homeward bound" (hobo) community. may everyone having read this have a good day :)
Looking forward to the pork pie hat guide. I’m a flat cap man myself, but have been considering diversifying.
Exceptions to the general rule on hotel and hotel pool areas. If you go to a pool at a hotel in Palm Springs or a casino in Las Vegas, the necessity of wearing a hat outweighs the general rule. If I am in an expansive lobby of a hotel (as contrasted to a club), an area becomes private space only if I am in a conversation with some one in a specific area. If I am wearing a top hat and go to a dance, I will follow the general rules except for perhaps one dance as it will have entertainment value.