I definitely like it. What I think they should do though is take a look at mx sim and try to get the riders head to always be facing the landing. That would make the animations top notch imo.
The quick scrub physics looks like a big improvement, if they manage to tweak the animation so the rider stays more on the handlebars on a standing position I will look even better
The two stroke is better than it has ever been. There is a power band and it requires clutch work to keep it in the power. It also feels light weight and fast responding compared to the 450
Dude, I’ve been watching your videos for years. Thank you for keeping the Moto community updated on the cool ass games and being real on the takes. Please never stop
Ooh im glad i came across this video. I waited to buy legends from the launch due to the negative reviews. I just boughtbthe game and im waiting for it in the mail. Cant wait for a refreshment
I’m surprised no one has mentioned, that you can now adjust the speed of “in air” rotation. In gameplay settings, there is “scrub dead zone” and “quick scrub dead zone”. Adjust them to the smallest setting and the bike will rotate faster in the air.
@@NewEndProductions I’m not sure I understand your question. But since this comment, ive tested just about all the different settings now. And it seems adjusting the “scrub dead zone” and quick scrub dead zone. Are actually adjusting the sensitivity of your joysticks. It definitely affects the speed of the ground physics and in air at the same time. Not one or the other. You just have to get on your favorite Mx track and test it as you would the tuning settings. What works best for me so far is tuning: -3 for both engine and clutch boost. +3 chassis, +3 suspension, +2 tires, -3 brakes. Combined with small setting for scrub dead zone and larger for quick scrub dead zone
250cc two stroke is what all my best lap times are on. They are lighter and easier to transition from leaning left to leaning right. So dipping into and out of corners is quicker. The 450 is big heavy turd and even sounds like a turd. The 450 carries a little bit better momentum on the top end and can help on some tracks. BUT, two stroke 250 is still on average faster even with the new crappy clutch boost nerf where I have to clutch boost every gear to keep it in the powerband.
Now, when are they going to make the bikes sound good. Like the 2 strokes sound like an electric razor, and the 4 strokes sound like you just shit yourself
Also the head physics are everting in animated scrub, it’s crazy how much head movement makes a scrub look. Like just look at the head movement difference between any game and legends
Happy Thanksgiving man! Great video as always. Try to play with the options of "reflex gyro," enabled and disabled and see what you think. You can also throw those scrubs and quick scrubs much lower on the jump faces, they can get pretty spicy. That's mainly where the changes were made, within the scrub and quick scrub initiations on the jump face.
One thing I don't understand is my bike is fully upgraded and I can't keep the bike on two wheels. I'll case a jump by the tiniest bit, and I go down for no reason, and it turns into a rage fest, I struggle on the easiest difficulty, which makes no sense because if I go to Reflex on ALL-TIME difficulty I dominate. I don't understand. Does anyone have this problem or am I the only one? Edit: Also the crash animation is so delayed I'll case a jump and it looks like my rider recovers from it, but instead he just falls off the bike for no reason.
The stiffer the suspension, the more you'll be able to absorb before crashing. If you upgrade lvl 3 soft suspension, it's actually more prone to crashing than the stock suspension just fyi. But softer is faster on bumpy tracks if you can avoid casing. I also get a bit frustrated with the recovery anim, if it triggers I assume a wreck is coming, if it let's me off with a warning consider yourself lucky. Keep at it, ai usually are considerate in the corners and won't smash you off, so try to enter a bit slower so you can rail the berm to make a fast corner exit, good luck!
it would be really helpful if you do a video with a sub window inside showing exactly how to throw whips and scrubs showing the sticks. cannot find a proper tutorial for ps4.
@@durrik I am aware of that, just like milestone's supercross ...I don t have a smooth come back afterwards before landing. bike takes an awkward angle
Looks like the sneak peak is going to be a track pack of all the teams test tracks and the legend one is the goat farm. Scrubs still don’t look good. Look at videos of people scrubbing in real life and tell me these in game scrubs even resemble them in the slightest. I’m not saying I expect them to be a million percent realistic, but milestone had a better look and feel to their scrubs. And when do you ever see the back tire not rotating above the rider when airborne.
I mean I appreciate what MX vs. ATV does but I just can't get into it. The physics and animations don't make me feel like I am riding a dirt bike at all. Can go way to fast and the bike doesn't work realistically enough for me.
@@starfox_wr-45e93 it’s not even a start honestly they’ve already said no crossplay this game. Atleast for ps Xbox and pc are the only ones. Pretty good way to seperate your community yourself (yourself meaning the devs)
@@NotGettinHatch the communities were always seperate for the longest time, this is literally the 1st generation of crossplatform games. Oh how entitled we've become 🤣
@@starfox_wr-45e93 no one said it wasn’t. Just seems pretty beat it’s only Microsoft that’s getting the “crossplat” lol u prolly have a pc or Xbox and it’s the only reason I don’t see a problem bc it’s always about YOU guys😂😂
@@NotGettinHatch don't even own the game yet 🤣 I just appreciate the effort they put into bringing back this whole series from being not only extinct, but continuing to make it better every day. The game is clearly more than a cash grab, unlike so many others with "checkbox features" and zero support after launch. Yup, I'm one of THOSE guys 😂
*Top problems bouncing too much and letting go of the bars easy fixes just fucking do it already to all of us who grew up playing mx they avoid the obvious stuff that needs to be fixed*
I still can’t believe how much better this game is now compared to launch, it feels like a completely different game.
And they still keep trying to make improvements. Easily one of my favourite developers in ALL of gaming right now, not just Moto ❤
I haven’t played since like 2 months after launch. I gotta open it back up again
Minus the crap bike sounds
JEREMY MCGRATHS SUPERCROSS HAD BETTER SOUND IN 2001
@@Jack-by2hgand the clutch boosting man that really has to go
The whips are like 1% better. Like with every update they have it’s an incredibly minor improvement. Maybe in 7 years this game will be good
W comment
Honestly I really do not understand why the player base are meat grinding the dev so much when all the dev do is taking steps backwards
I definitely like it. What I think they should do though is take a look at mx sim and try to get the riders head to always be facing the landing. That would make the animations top notch imo.
This and updated whip/scrub/in air animations are currently in the works. Hoping to at least some of this in for 2.10
@@gutika113thanks for the heads up.
A dev on discord told me that there will be a compound pack with a few compounds and included tracks in December.
Any FMX?
Do you know if we’re getting a pro rider replica compound again?
The quick scrub physics looks like a big improvement, if they manage to tweak the animation so the rider stays more on the handlebars on a standing position I will look even better
Looks like official team compounds maybe the last one is the OG goat farm
The two stroke is better than it has ever been. There is a power band and it requires clutch work to keep it in the power. It also feels light weight and fast responding compared to the 450
Dude, I’ve been watching your videos for years. Thank you for keeping the Moto community updated on the cool ass games and being real on the takes. Please never stop
Turndowns looking great🔥 waiting for this update 😁
Ooh im glad i came across this video. I waited to buy legends from the launch due to the negative reviews. I just boughtbthe game and im waiting for it in the mail. Cant wait for a refreshment
WE NEED THE OG JS7 COMPOUND
Holy shit, I need this game
It’s got to be factory supercross test tracks
Yeah an the other track might be the goat farm with Carmichael or tomac Colorado ranch training facility
I’m surprised no one has mentioned, that you can now adjust the speed of “in air” rotation. In gameplay settings, there is “scrub dead zone” and “quick scrub dead zone”. Adjust them to the smallest setting and the bike will rotate faster in the air.
what control do you use for adjusting that speed?
@@NewEndProductions I’m not sure I understand your question. But since this comment, ive tested just about all the different settings now. And it seems adjusting the “scrub dead zone” and quick scrub dead zone. Are actually adjusting the sensitivity of your joysticks. It definitely affects the speed of the ground physics and in air at the same time. Not one or the other. You just have to get on your favorite Mx track and test it as you would the tuning settings. What works best for me so far is tuning: -3 for both engine and clutch boost. +3 chassis, +3 suspension, +2 tires, -3 brakes. Combined with small setting for scrub dead zone and larger for quick scrub dead zone
For supercross tracks I run stock tires or +1 and leave everything else the same
The legend spoiler honestly looks like the goat farm…
This game is going in the right direction and the developers are improving the game and listening to there community... games dont do that nowadys
The 250 used to be great but they nerfed it into the ground cause people were whiny about it being fast.
Happy thanksgiving and also nice update to the game!!!
Factory test tracks and the goat farm Maybe ?
First looks like JS7 Compound to me
Dude im gonna go crazy if they add the gaat farm
The body movement at whip is just my problem👍feel strange? The rest is great👍keep its up guys
This looks so much better
You should mess with the new scrub and quick scrub input sliders, also the reflex gyro.
They put sliders for that in the game? That's actually pretty amazing.
GOAT FARRRRRMM
This is a sick update!
They really need to fix the 2 stroke sound
250cc two stroke is what all my best lap times are on. They are lighter and easier to transition from leaning left to leaning right. So dipping into and out of corners is quicker. The 450 is big heavy turd and even sounds like a turd. The 450 carries a little bit better momentum on the top end and can help on some tracks. BUT, two stroke 250 is still on average faster even with the new crappy clutch boost nerf where I have to clutch boost every gear to keep it in the powerband.
I noticed that a lot on the 250 two stoke an the 125 too
the animation is still a bit rough
just a bit
Now, when are they going to make the bikes sound good. Like the 2 strokes sound like an electric razor, and the 4 strokes sound like you just shit yourself
leaderboards are cool but there's a lot of cheaters on pc ngl...
Whats new? 😂
cheat engine shenanigans
Whats the diffrence between a whip and a quick scrub? Im new to mx
Also the head physics are everting in animated scrub, it’s crazy how much head movement makes a scrub look. Like just look at the head movement difference between any game and legends
Happy Thanksgiving man! Great video as always. Try to play with the options of "reflex gyro," enabled and disabled and see what you think. You can also throw those scrubs and quick scrubs much lower on the jump faces, they can get pretty spicy. That's mainly where the changes were made, within the scrub and quick scrub initiations on the jump face.
Why did they nerf the clutch boost? Were people askin for that?
Yes
One thing I don't understand is my bike is fully upgraded and I can't keep the bike on two wheels. I'll case a jump by the tiniest bit, and I go down for no reason, and it turns into a rage fest, I struggle on the easiest difficulty, which makes no sense because if I go to Reflex on ALL-TIME difficulty I dominate. I don't understand. Does anyone have this problem or am I the only one?
Edit: Also the crash animation is so delayed I'll case a jump and it looks like my rider recovers from it, but instead he just falls off the bike for no reason.
The stiffer the suspension, the more you'll be able to absorb before crashing. If you upgrade lvl 3 soft suspension, it's actually more prone to crashing than the stock suspension just fyi. But softer is faster on bumpy tracks if you can avoid casing. I also get a bit frustrated with the recovery anim, if it triggers I assume a wreck is coming, if it let's me off with a warning consider yourself lucky. Keep at it, ai usually are considerate in the corners and won't smash you off, so try to enter a bit slower so you can rail the berm to make a fast corner exit, good luck!
They need to fix the crashing I can land perfectly and crash also need kyb suspension
make sure you are v-sync'd to 60fps, physics can behave odd with anything else.
I can’t find pinetop free ride on ps5, is this the same for everyone else?
the leg sticking out of the pedal feels strange idk
Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to you!
2nd track for the future looks like Brian deegans track
We need cross play and new bike sounds not so much dlc
i get to a point in my scrub that it doesn't come back and i can't fight the bike back....
I'm pretty sure they added the "quick scrub" to poke fun at Milestone's 'interesting' whip mechanics and controls. Maybe not...
Anyone have a problem with the sound of the 450,s I can barely use them because of the boggy sound it messes with me so bad
it would be really helpful if you do a video with a sub window inside showing exactly how to throw whips and scrubs showing the sticks. cannot find a proper tutorial for ps4.
both sticks in the same direction on the jump face is a scrub, both in the opposite direction on the jump face is a quick scrub
@@durrik I am aware of that, just like milestone's supercross ...I don t have a smooth come back afterwards before landing. bike takes an awkward angle
If that’s the goat farm then take my money
Am I being slow or is this the old motocross / supercross rider Kevin windham?
@windham151 Did they make the AI difficulty harder? They seem really easy. That’s the only thing holding me back from getting the game.
Hey, i’m a beginner, can someone tell me how to set a waypoint on Xbox?
Is that the GOAT Farm? Also are they teasing factory compounds?
Happy Thanksgiving guys
Still looks absolutely terrible, can’t believe you are giving it praise smh.
Not sure this been asked before or a million times. First UA-cam comment lol why does whipping adjust your position in air.
is this game actually good now? Havent been keeping up w it
If I go use the atv and if I still fall off after bumping another rider I’m going to be mad
Looks like the sneak peak is going to be a track pack of all the teams test tracks and the legend one is the goat farm. Scrubs still don’t look good. Look at videos of people scrubbing in real life and tell me these in game scrubs even resemble them in the slightest. I’m not saying I expect them to be a million percent realistic, but milestone had a better look and feel to their scrubs. And when do you ever see the back tire not rotating above the rider when airborne.
Happy thanksgiving
I mean I appreciate what MX vs. ATV does but I just can't get into it. The physics and animations don't make me feel like I am riding a dirt bike at all. Can go way to fast and the bike doesn't work realistically enough for me.
goat farm; time to send the wall jump....
JS7 COMPOND !!!!
I dont understand how, in plain 2023, they just can't get whips and scrubs right. They look awful.
MX Bikes has really nice whip physics
I guess I can give up hope on sounds
Glad the leaderboards are crossplat but the games not not smh
You gotta start somewhere..
@@starfox_wr-45e93 it’s not even a start honestly they’ve already said no crossplay this game. Atleast for ps Xbox and pc are the only ones. Pretty good way to seperate your community yourself (yourself meaning the devs)
@@NotGettinHatch the communities were always seperate for the longest time, this is literally the 1st generation of crossplatform games. Oh how entitled we've become 🤣
@@starfox_wr-45e93 no one said it wasn’t. Just seems pretty beat it’s only Microsoft that’s getting the “crossplat” lol u prolly have a pc or Xbox and it’s the only reason I don’t see a problem bc it’s always about YOU guys😂😂
@@NotGettinHatch don't even own the game yet 🤣 I just appreciate the effort they put into bringing back this whole series from being not only extinct, but continuing to make it better every day. The game is clearly more than a cash grab, unlike so many others with "checkbox features" and zero support after launch.
Yup, I'm one of THOSE guys 😂
Are the dlc bikes better than the normal
Why can’t they just take the quick scrub out the game, I always hated those type of “scrubs”. It’s like milestone which was trash
The crash animations are so bad 😂😂 they have a lot of work to do
I still dont like it, the head should always look forward, that’s totally unrealistic.
*Top problems bouncing too much and letting go of the bars easy fixes just fucking do it already to all of us who grew up playing mx they avoid the obvious stuff that needs to be fixed*
Mx bikes is so much better than mx vs atv games
Riders animation ruins the wrong thing. The fall when the rider gets bucked up handle bars and is frozen until impact.
This a horrible game.
Super slow physics
All out whips way better 😂😂
Man this game is still bad, when will they ever surpass Reflex probably never 😂.
It got worse wtf. Huge L
The head turning is so dumb tbh
The whips and the physics totally look like garbage wtf. All out was way better in terms of whips
This looks horrible compared to mxvsatv u leashed on ps2 ...it literally looks worse in every way
Game broken asf