This took me back to 1954 when we used to MANUALLY wind motors and generators at the Royal Naval Yard in Malta at what we called the Main Electrical shop. I still recognise all the actions. The armature winding are for lap wound armature and the span of the coil is not 180 degrees but much less. I admired the man at 8:37 where he is curling the enamel copper wire around the risers of the commutator which he would have to solder or weld to together to ensure a good contact. It is being done automatically at 1:07. The manner in which the first leatheroid insulation is inserted is remarkable and the last fibre strip after closing the slot with the insulation ends is just elegant. I did bar winding of armatures used in starter motors with no slots in them, and I am wondering how they would do that in an armature with no slots. I love the manner in which the commutator is skimmed and we used to undercut the slots in the commutator. There were says when I even dismantled the commutator segments and clean them out and repair them and put them back again using a conical bush which captured all the segments and they would not fly out with centrifugal force. We used to impregnate the lot with shellac after heating and vacuuming the chamber and then use to vacuum to lift the shellac and the wound unit would be immersed in the shellac and dried in vacuum. Admirality had the best equipment and procedures in those days and I miss that work, however , my engineering career took me to areas where one realises that these days making the production machine with all that sequencing needs more brains than winding manually individual units. Engineering is a miracle maker which brought so much comfort into our home, No other profession contributed so much to the family tangible comforts as most of the classical professions projected emotions to society. Back to winding units, Winding the concentric coils for the stators as shown at 4:38 is something I have never seen before, as we did it all manually and had to insert the coils in the slots after taking the set of coils from its wooden mould. We also used distributed winding with coils of the same size. In heavy DC armatures sometimes the slots did not have a slot that narrowed at its ends, so we used to wind steel wires around it to hold the coils in place and we soldered small flat tin plates around the steel wire overlapping the ends of the tin plate. The bending of the coils so that the underpart would be directed to the upper position was tricky at the ends of the armature and the coil was wound in an elliptical manner first. At the moment I feel as if I was as Michael Angelo sculpting with a chisel and a hammer when today any statue can be made with a 3D milling 5 axis machine working from a CAD programme. Wonderful stuff this engineering detail and it is such a pity that they who are proud to buy and own their comforts and their art and entertainment............little do they realise the amount of engineering that went on to make their life so comfortable. That pleasure of knowing knowledge is denied to them and they all live in such a superficial level.
Carmel Pule' - admire your past skills. Thanks for the detailed outline. My step-father used to work for a shop as a kid where they refurbished old automobile starter motors. He took me back to that old shop in L.A. and the old timer who owned it was still in business in the 1970s. Showed the marks against the wall where starters awaiting rebuild were piled up. The old man did some procedure where he soldered windings to armature or the cummutator ( ? ) and splashed sulfuric acid to get rid of contaminants? Fascinating to watch...
Interesting that the Royal Navy had the World's first production line - in Portsmouth Dockyard (manufacturing pulley blocks for the rigging of Ships of the Line in the early 1700's). Jonathon Coad's "The Portsmouth Block Mills" covers the dawn of the "modern" industrial production line revolution in considerable detail - borrow from your local Library (since the book's expensive!)
Around 20 yrs. ago, I worked in a company called Century Electric. My job was to work as a winding transformer coils that used for welder machine, electric heaters...etc... This is bring back of memory.
Wow! That brought back memories. I retired from special machine building 6 years ago. I used to build and maintain assembly machine like this for electrical connectors.
Yep, I was in automotive manufacturing engineering and we built speedodomenters, fuel sending units, high automation and small parts, don't miss it at all, especially the injection molding side.
Reminded me when I used to rewind them by hand and replace the commutator , rebuild the entire Dinamos, 6 and 12 volts install them on the cars and adjust the voltage regulators Delco Remy
I worked in factories for over 30 years that produced fractional horsepower electric motors just like this. TThese videos really take me back to those days....
I find this fascinating - I was an apprentice Armature Winder 60 years ago and mainly repaired Stators not many armatures. We did have a section of women winding armatures with machines which were then completed by hand. The commutators were soldered. When I had finished rewinding a motor the best bit was lacing the coils together as neat as possible. Then dipped in varnish and "cooked" for 4 hours. I often wonder if I still have the skills required as I changed trades at the end of 5 years.
Всегда удивляла вот эта технология намотки статоров - накрутят-накрутят кучу бороды из проволоки, потом одним движением - хлоп и затянули в статор. И ничего не путается и не рвется :)
I worked in a medium voltage motor shop as a winder and unless it was special we wound mostly 75 hp and up because machines like those made it cheaper to buy new over rewinding/rebuilding. There is a big difference between the newer cheaper rolled and welded stator housings and stamped end bells, and the older cast housings and ends. Our rewinds/rebuilds of the older units would outlast and outperform the new junk every time. Cheap components make for cheap machines, bought by cheap companies to make cheap products, that they sell to people who have no idea what quality really is. Quality is built with pride, and doesn't cost that much more up front, but performs as it should over and over every time. Lasting much longer and costing less in the long run, why? Machines don't have heart, and no matter how nice the machine it doesn't have a family or friends who depend on it, they have no pride. Thank you to all of the brave men and women who have sacrificed so much to protect our great country with pride and honor.
Ryan : I owned a rewind shop for 38-yrs and we used to even rewind 1/8 HP stators if we could make money, and I did a little 2300 / 4160 volt form coil rewinds. However we made most of our money winding 100-HP and under. You have to laugh when you see these machines wind a stator in less than 30 seconds, which would have taken the BEST man 2-hours... LOL...
No foolin. I'd like to hear what the steps are myself. If I needed a starter rebuilt, I wouldn't go to the local record store. And If I played music in shop class while teachers talking, I know for a fact I'd get my ass kicked. But then again, here its youtube crap. Might have something to do with liberalism, no discipline.
I just clicked on this and my immediate thought was , why is the music necessary ? Do people just like to promote their own favourite music ? If I wanted to listen to music I would click on a music video. Too annoying, I can't be bothered watching anymore.
To think that as a young man still in apprenticeship and winding stators and rotors by hand in the early 70's and today machines do it, let's ponder where our jobs have gone. 😕
So fascinating to see the production of these various... motors? What would be a great video is how to reclaim the copper off these things when the end-result device goes bad for recycling purposes in relatively economic ways.
Hi,I wonder if you could solve this issue to do with the belt grooved end being pressed on to the armature shaft at 3:41 in the footage, I was told that if the bearing goes bad on that particular side of the shaft it cannot be replaced,due to the belt grooved piece pressed on will break` if trying to remove with a pulley, The repair shop told me the armature cannot be bought separately I have to buy the whole motor assembly for the washing machine,cost £160.00.But a set of bearings would only cost £20.00. is there away by heat or a Technic in removing it without damage. I was also told by a motor repair shop that I should be able to buy a replacement belt grooved end bit that comes with a pin,that can be placed on to the shaft if the other gets damaged removing it. Any help from yourself or any viewer would be well appreciated
Ein normaler E-Motor mit bester Leistung und gleichmäßiger Außenwicklung, der zusätzlich frequenzangepasst und sehr einfach präzisiert elektronisch phasenmoduliert werden kann.
Most of the time the tools that make it are more amazing then what is being made.
its normal because if it was the case each machine would produce more awesome machines and we we would go towards the infinite
Skynet
This took me back to 1954 when we used to MANUALLY wind motors and generators at the Royal Naval Yard in Malta at what we called the Main Electrical shop. I still recognise all the actions. The armature winding are for lap wound armature and the span of the coil is not 180 degrees but much less. I admired the man at 8:37 where he is curling the enamel copper wire around the risers of the commutator which he would have to solder or weld to together to ensure a good contact. It is being done automatically at 1:07. The manner in which the first leatheroid insulation is inserted is remarkable and the last fibre strip after closing the slot with the insulation ends is just elegant. I did bar winding of armatures used in starter motors with no slots in them, and I am wondering how they would do that in an armature with no slots. I love the manner in which the commutator is skimmed and we used to undercut the slots in the commutator. There were says when I even dismantled the commutator segments and clean them out and repair them and put them back again using a conical bush which captured all the segments and they would not fly out with centrifugal force. We used to impregnate the lot with shellac after heating and vacuuming the chamber and then use to vacuum to lift the shellac and the wound unit would be immersed in the shellac and dried in vacuum. Admirality had the best equipment and procedures in those days and I miss that work, however , my engineering career took me to areas where one realises that these days making the production machine with all that sequencing needs more brains than winding manually individual units. Engineering is a miracle maker which brought so much comfort into our home, No other profession contributed so much to the family tangible comforts as most of the classical professions projected emotions to society.
Back to winding units, Winding the concentric coils for the stators as shown at 4:38 is something I have never seen before, as we did it all manually and had to insert the coils in the slots after taking the set of coils from its wooden mould. We also used distributed winding with coils of the same size. In heavy DC armatures sometimes the slots did not have a slot that narrowed at its ends, so we used to wind steel wires around it to hold the coils in place and we soldered small flat tin plates around the steel wire overlapping the ends of the tin plate. The bending of the coils so that the underpart would be directed to the upper position was tricky at the ends of the armature and the coil was wound in an elliptical manner first.
At the moment I feel as if I was as Michael Angelo sculpting with a chisel and a hammer when today any statue can be made with a 3D milling 5 axis machine working from a CAD programme. Wonderful stuff this engineering detail and it is such a pity that they who are proud to buy and own their comforts and their art and entertainment............little do they realise the amount of engineering that went on to make their life so comfortable. That pleasure of knowing knowledge is denied to them and they all live in such a superficial level.
Carmel Pule' - admire your past skills. Thanks for the detailed outline. My step-father used to work for a shop as a kid where they refurbished old automobile starter motors. He took me back to that old shop in L.A. and the old timer who owned it was still in business in the 1970s. Showed the marks against the wall where starters awaiting rebuild were piled up. The old man did some procedure where he soldered windings to armature or the cummutator ( ? ) and splashed sulfuric acid to get rid of contaminants? Fascinating to watch...
Interesting that the Royal Navy had the World's first production line - in Portsmouth Dockyard (manufacturing pulley blocks for the rigging of Ships of the Line in the early 1700's). Jonathon Coad's "The Portsmouth Block Mills" covers the dawn of the "modern" industrial production line revolution in considerable detail - borrow from your local Library (since the book's expensive!)
@@phils4634 Phil thank for your valuable information.
Excellent technical reporting. I am going through the video in detail after reading your report. Thank you sir,
Around 20 yrs. ago, I worked in a company called Century Electric. My job was to work as a winding transformer coils that used for welder machine, electric heaters...etc... This is bring back of memory.
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Wow! That brought back memories. I retired from special machine building 6 years ago. I used to build and maintain assembly machine like this for electrical connectors.
Yep, I was in automotive manufacturing engineering and we built speedodomenters, fuel sending units, high automation and small parts, don't miss it at all, especially the injection molding side.
I quit machine building last year. Worked mostly on the controls/elect./pneumatic.
James S. Mp no
Mp
Robotics engineers are the unsung hero's in manufacturing.
Yes amazing
You mean Production Engineers, also called Product Line Managers - simply PLM's !
@@patentneer Yep, them too.
@@patentneer Why do you have to be a little smug? You think you're better and smarter than everybody else?
@@maxkonig559
Actually, yes and I have proof. Do you mind ?
That was pretty slick. I love automation. I enjoyed this very much. :)
Many years I repaired electric motors and always wondered how the armatures/fields were wound very interesting!👍
oh awesome.
I love electric motors of all types
Reminded me when I used to rewind them by hand and replace the commutator , rebuild the entire Dinamos, 6 and 12 volts install them on the cars and adjust the voltage regulators Delco Remy
Beats the hell out of doing it by hand!
Way to go Production Line Engineers.
I've done one by hand. You are so correct!
The coil windings and sound... so satisfying.
I worked in factories for over 30 years that produced fractional horsepower electric motors just like this. TThese videos really take me back to those days....
This video has me 'all wound up.'
Great video!...but the music...wanna hear the machines!
snake
Great man who made such automation plant while we purchase dreel machine armichare is main
Muito bom maq pra rebobinar. Induzido show de bola
у мужик4а руки золотые ! и плату он должен брать золотом) удачи .
Just think of all the people that have to be put to work to build the mechanics to make that machine work great job
Tuangkan produksifitas kita selagi kita masih bisa berkarya. Bravo"90
Thats a clean ass armature line holy shit.
I find this fascinating - I was an apprentice Armature Winder 60 years ago and mainly repaired Stators not many armatures. We did have a section of women winding armatures with machines which were then completed by hand. The commutators were soldered. When I had finished rewinding a motor the best bit was lacing the coils together as neat as possible. Then dipped in varnish and "cooked" for 4 hours. I often wonder if I still have the skills required as I changed trades at the end of 5 years.
An awesome video ..that's the great machine ah...but the music is so,sweet ... i like that dudz ...
Très belle vidéos merci beaucoup c'est très bien
I actually seen a machine pick up the stator and turned it around WOW!!
This is my sort of e-motor.
Всегда удивляла вот эта технология намотки статоров - накрутят-накрутят кучу бороды из проволоки, потом одним движением - хлоп и затянули в статор. И ничего не путается и не рвется :)
O ser humano e.Estraordinário!!👏👏👏👏👏
The faraday dream.
One day robots will be saying, "Damn, lost my job to a human."
not likely *laughs in Binary*
Ohhh, Exelente empresa, muy buena tecnología
Um dia houve uma Voz ,houve uma palavra e , tudo se fez .Grande Deus .
Вот они болгарки и перфораторы :))
Ничего себе до чего ум дошёл
Beautiful and wonderful machines
I worked in a medium voltage motor shop as a winder and unless it was special we wound mostly 75 hp and up because machines like those made it cheaper to buy new over rewinding/rebuilding. There is a big difference between the newer cheaper rolled and welded stator housings and stamped end bells, and the older cast housings and ends. Our rewinds/rebuilds of the older units would outlast and outperform the new junk every time. Cheap components make for cheap machines, bought by cheap companies to make cheap products, that they sell to people who have no idea what quality really is. Quality is built with pride, and doesn't cost that much more up front, but performs as it should over and over every time. Lasting much longer and costing less in the long run, why? Machines don't have heart, and no matter how nice the machine it doesn't have a family or friends who depend on it, they have no pride. Thank you to all of the brave men and women who have sacrificed so much to protect our great country with pride and honor.
Ryan : I owned a rewind shop for 38-yrs and we used to even rewind 1/8 HP stators if we could make money, and I did a little 2300 / 4160 volt form coil rewinds. However we made most of our money winding 100-HP and under. You have to laugh when you see these machines wind a stator in less than 30 seconds, which would have taken the BEST man 2-hours... LOL...
Why is that so satisfying to watch?
Super makinayi yapanlarin ellerine saglik
a normal e-motor with best performance and even outer winding, which can be additional separately phased, frequency adapted and very simple.
WOW.....How GOOD is that....
Millions of engineering manhours over decades of generations of equipment designs to get such a wonderful mecanistic dance.
Hay quá 👍🏆👏👏👏👏🤗
Woow .... Suprrrrb
Helo tuyệt vời
I'd much rather hear the machines at work than the crap "music". Oh, they heard me - it stops after 4:45.
Martin Halley or video ka ha
No foolin. I'd like to hear what the steps are myself. If I needed a starter rebuilt, I wouldn't go to the local record store. And If I played music in shop class while teachers talking, I know for a fact I'd get my ass kicked.
But then again, here its youtube crap. Might have something to do with liberalism, no discipline.
I just clicked on this and my immediate thought was , why is the music necessary ?
Do people just like to promote their own favourite music ?
If I wanted to listen to music I would click on a music video.
Too annoying, I can't be bothered watching anymore.
Thank you dlfor not putting some generic shitass music. I love to hear machines!!!
The guy had placing the wires in the commutator terminals by hand must have been in a prototype area. Can't imagine any production being that slow.
Hello good evning
Wellcom to the tecnologi
What great micro programming
Lisedeyken hesaplayıp tek tek elle rotor stator sardığım günler aklıma geldi.Şimdi sorsan bir tanesini bile bilmem formüllerin :)
Imaging ther hours that went into building theses machines
شيء جميل جدا ورائعه احسنتم موفقين ان شاء الله
all is here perfect
Nice reporting job ... 😊
Mantap canggih banget
Ini lebih keren lagi di banding tempat saya kerja ada lowongan engk ya kira - kira ?
very cupric video
Awesomeness 🔺🔺🔺
I guess you could call this a kind of 'armature' video. :) Just to 'wind' you up.
After that outburst, I think you must leave!
@@jackfrost2146 Yes, I think you might be right.
Your puns are welcome to me. Not bad :)
You need to brush up on the small motor puns. Your condition could be terminal.
Watch at 4:38 with headphones. I felt like i was going deaf in my right ear. Anyone else experience the same thing??
Me, not so much.
Yes. The balance is way off toward the right.
Manufacturing technology is more important than what is being made. It is ultimately what makes things affordable and feasible for use in other areas.
Cost in machine
To think that as a young man still in apprenticeship and winding stators and rotors by hand in the early 70's and today machines do it, let's ponder where our jobs have gone. 😕
Nice video
i wonder about the windings where there was lots of loose slack in the windings,,,,how did that get tightened up somewhere??
Фантастика!!!!
最初の回転子でニス塗・バランス調整したのかな？あとコミュの通電テストとか。
Good: No "music"
Bad: Camera mount is a jelly on springs.
Amazing!
The station where the worker must use his fingers to set a wind position needs to be revised so he is not using fingers at all.
I suppose it is a prototyping station, for very small runs. Where retooling for each prototype/run would cost too much time.
Then they can't called it a handmade motor if no hand touches it. I'm not even joking.
Amazing video
I've wound armatures like that by hand before
I used to repair old Lucas wiper motors from home and used to hand wined burnt out armatures. Saves 30 quid for an hours work.
Nice! ,,, Yep same here similar circumstances .. obsolete tractor starter ... and a big old farm pump one time .. two I can remember
Please price of this unit we need this unit
Ho chế tạo thật đỉnh
Their is living proof on a video that intelligent human beings live on this planet somewhere!
All hail the upcoming robot revolt!!!
Man really is isvisible . But imagine having to fault find on that ? i would need 3 boxes of anadin a day before starting.
mc 007 YO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SPEAKING ALIEN LANGUAGE
@@fading_starz4070 n
And what a bout safety !!!
Nice machine.
Sin las máquinas, la tecnología no hubiera avanzado, 😎😎
Ah... the company I work for still makes the armature by hand. Hand made lasts longer I’m told. It is an art.
O preguiçoso e miserável enventou a máquina pra trabalhar pra ele
Sensacional
This thing could bebefit with some narration... Pretty cool though.
Good job super
So fascinating to see the production of these various... motors? What would be a great video is how to reclaim the copper off these things when the end-result device goes bad for recycling purposes in relatively economic ways.
So I assume aliens make these machines as I can't fathom how man could be so ingenious to come-up with these things.
Hello 2018 and they still making BRUSHED MOTORS?
Good job
fantasic video.
I bet they’ve had some big tangles.
And that's how you get wired. lol
Agora eu já sei como se faz 🖒🖒🖒
_Always wondered how this armature windings where done_
*Damn those engineering equations.*
Wow nice
Good production ,how can i get it?
Hi,I wonder if you could solve this issue to do with the belt grooved end being pressed on to the armature shaft at 3:41 in the footage,
I was told that if the bearing goes bad on that particular side of the shaft it cannot be replaced,due to the belt grooved piece pressed on will break` if trying to remove with a pulley,
The repair shop told me the armature cannot be bought separately I have to buy the whole motor assembly for the washing machine,cost £160.00.But a set of bearings would only cost £20.00.
is there away by heat or a Technic in removing it without damage.
I was also told by a motor repair shop that I should be able to buy a replacement belt grooved end bit that comes with a pin,that can be placed on to the shaft if the other gets damaged removing it.
Any help from yourself or any viewer would be well appreciated
Hello, may you manyfacture semi auto winding armature machines?
It’s hard to see this after spending 30 years rewinding armatures and stators of all sizes by hand,
вот сионисты посмотрите как русские создают полезные вещи!
Very cool
Ein normaler E-Motor mit bester Leistung und gleichmäßiger Außenwicklung, der zusätzlich frequenzangepasst und sehr einfach präzisiert elektronisch phasenmoduliert werden kann.
is germany? i like germany
wow great