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Heated Origin 1 Reaction! | Saturday Scrum | Triple M NRL
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- It was a passionate reaction after Queensland Maroons' 38-10 win over NSW Blues in State of Origin Game 1. Join Wade Graham, Ryan Girdler, Brent Read and Tony Squires!
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As a Victorian I am so sick & tired of these complaining & sycophantic NSW commentators. Just face up to the fact that the NSW bloke hit the Reece Walsh in the head with such force that Walsh was effectively knocked out & forced to undergo an HIA protocol. In an era with greater awareness of CTE amongst mode codes, that send off decision was totally & absolutely warranted. Reece Walsh's welfare should be the primary consideration above & beyond any other factors.
Exactly what I have been saying too, and I’m a neutral supporter.
Even if you agree or disagree with the send off ruling, there's no arguing that the send off ruined the game. Send off rule needs to be reworked, going down to 12 men for the entire game is too much of a disadvantage.
@@Timmay2168If that was a Queensland player doing that tackle I would be filthy at him as a Queenslander!The penalty is harsh but he did take out 1 of the best players for 2 weeks.Every player knows the ramifications of doing a dog act and you live by the sword and die by the sword! Thats why you play the game Not the player!
Sounds like you need a skirt too
As a Victorian you would know AFL does not have send offs.
And if suaalii was concerned he should have gone to Reece Walsh and ask are you ok but instead he jogged back into line
It's origin mate.
Because the team was literally missing a bloke in defence and Qld was in their 15💀 difference if they were inside their own 30
Exactly - deserved what he got👏🏾
He performed his duty. He wasn't concerned but just shocked when he got sent off.
Have you seen the tv ads? It isn't footy, it is war.
The biggest difference between Qld and NSW is that most NSW commentators are already taking like you've lost the series because you lost Game 1. Qld NEVER think like that. Its not over until the 80min mark of the third game.
Until you stop blaming one instance for losing, you'll never understand the Qld mentality.
Best comment 👍👏👏👏💯
Shocking conversation. Bloke got knocked unconscious by a reckless tackle and it was all about poor Joe! Asking Walsh to take responsibility for a dangerous tackle? Liam Martin showed in the same game you can just aim lower and still hit hard.
He would of hit him good Reece slipped you can clearly see his feet slide if he stood up he would of got coped in the chest but he didn't cause he sliped
@@44shots6worldsYeah Walsh definitely slipped. Probably would have been a great hit if not. I think I ruined contest of the game by sending off. 10 in the bin and punishment by suspension after the game
@@44shots6worlds Look at footage at 0.25 speed, his slip made him drop next to nothing. Suaalii was on 100% target to collect his head. Don't look at a photo of his feet slipping. Look at the footage in slow motion. He was collecting his head no matter what. No ifs or buts. If you came back with a different view you're either being dishonest or you haven't watched the footage at the speed I've suggested. UA-cam gives you the opportunity to slow it down.
@@peterpiper7951 a high tackle to the head of falling or ducking player is always a penalty. Suaalii clearly ran out of the line and threw his body of the ground to put an intention big hit a Walsh. Unfortunately Walsh didn't have the ball was falling backwards to avoid the heavy contact and accidentally got hit flush in the face. Send off any the day the week. But 10 mins wouldn't of been as much as a big deal than what this turned out to be
Brodey must be qld for sure Reece would have been hit waist to chest high if no slip happened cmon let’s face it
Check the video everyone. Use the > key to go frame by frame. You will clearly see - CLEARLY - that from the moment Reece plants his right foot - to the moment he gets hit - his head DOES NOT GET ANY CLOSER TO THE GROUND. Not by 2 feet. Not by 2 inches. And not by 2 centimetres. Check it for YOURSELVES.
Exactly, he usually dips when passing, Sualii was going for a shot to at least the Sternum, he was probably ok with going to the bin, but he miscalculated, it was reckless, to the head and he made no attempt to wrap the arms, Send off every day of the week.
Reece slipped into it that’s a fact no send off was required at all some people should just get their hands of it, it ain’t netball
@@sniper10666 No he didn't slip before contact. Those are the facts. Check it for yourself frame by frame and you will see.
I’m wondering if both these NSW guys would be saying and have the suggestion’s if it was there fullback Tedesco that was flat lined like Walsh was would they be saying the same things .
Yes because reed slipped you can clearly see he slips💀
@@44shots6worldshe slips by less than 12mm. Suallii moves his head because he knows he is about to hit the head. If you have ever tackled before, you don't lift your head at the last second unless you think you're going to get a head clash. Walsh slips fuck all. Suallii moved his head even more than Walsh slips
Teddy would most likely have to medically retire if that happened to him
@@bellingdog out to pastures for Teddy
@@bellingdog and if you’ve ever tackled before your suppose to use your arms to tackle numb nuts . Never ever at any time did Joseph wrap his arms around him. He used his shoulder he’s a grub
Walsh got a fractured eye socket becsuse of accidental contact. He was off 4 weeks. The attacker got zero. Free to play. That rule already operates in the game. The send off was spot on. I am a blues fan. Girds, Walsh miss' 2 games, too. Bad arguement.
The defender was cleared by the match review committee, accidental contact happens all the time.
@@SlaintheMhath Thats my point. The accidentsl rule already is in force.
@@SlaintheMhath "accidental" is too vague of a concept because it applies to situations that have a ton of "what ifs". Suaali'i didn't intend to KO Walsh, everyone knows that, BUT he could have tackled lower, he barely hinged at the hips, he launched himself at Walsh. He didn't do **enough** to completely mitigate an accident.
Every Blues player would have said "I intended to maybe hurt him a little, but not knock him out".
Girdler saying the Roosters lose out because he's going to miss 4 weeks but it's ok for Broncos to lose Walsh through hia and luckily not any longer
Walsh will miss one game, he was dancing around on the sideline after the game, they will get a doctor to clear him for the second game in the 11 day stand down.
@@SlaintheMhathhope so after last night 😬
@@SlaintheMhath They can't, it was an automatic 11 day stand down because of cat 1. He was knocked out. Regardless of him passing the cognitive test and him dancing after the game. also, regardless of him missing 1 or 2 games, Girdler didn't worry about Reece, he's only worried about Sualii.
You gentlemen cant admit that it was a send off hit!!
There is a bigger picture. This is a precedent, and it shows that the NRL is fair dinkum about protecting the head of players. This will have a 'filter down' effect and referees at all levels of the game will feel more confident taking action in cases of dangerous play; accidental or not. In these days of class actions by former players in AFL and Rugby it would be foolish to take any other course of action other than a send off. I feel deprived of a great contest, but a player's health for the rest of his life, is more important than my evenings entertainment.
100% agree. Was I as a fan disappointed that the match wasn't 13 vs 13? Sure, but at the end of the day, player safety comes first and the send off is a deterrent for dangerous big hits like we saw. If the jerseys were reversed and it was Holmes taking out Teddy or Edwards, then I'd be saying the same thing, it was a stupid act. Was Sualii going in there to kill Reece? no, but he was going in to do big damage legally......he just got it wrong and had to pay the price.
You can't put " THE GAME " ahead of the safety of the players!!
Memo NSW : That's what you get for selecting a defector.
Memo Qld: Ezra was born in Sydney, Tino born in Orange [he would have been picked if fit].
Qld picks defectors all the time 🤣🤣
greg inglis? dam you queenslands are dumb as fuck, we had to give you players
@@TheBlackguard Making up for all those years before Origin when NSW stole QLD's best players.
@@SilentHotdog28 “stole” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. 🤣
Bullshit the gameplan was to take Walsh out, the 3 times he touched the ball he was taken out illegally.
As I saw it, the hit was a shoulder charge/torpedo launched into Walsh, this was error #1, made contact shoulder on head (face) error #2; doesn't matter if people slipping, NSW (ex-players/newspapers) made it clear they would target Walsh. I also believe Walsh was targeted in an earlier 'late' tackle, also believe it was a shoulder charge without any ref/linesman reaction.
Saying that Suaali'i shouldn't have been sent off because the "contest was ruined" is a terrible argument. If this sort of thing keeps up, players will keep trying to play on the edge of the tackle rules. That could mean you end up with a bunch of second tier players playing Origin. Send offs happen to protect player welfare and to penalise those who do the wrong thing. Commentators and former players need to be less emotional about the "contest" being ruined because eventually the game will be ruined.
If you want to stamp out the head shots, there has to be harsh deterrents. Time of the game is important. Because it is more likely that the player is tired and the high shot is through tired play. But, in the 7th minute. Joey was not tired. It is just bad technique that lead to Walsh being destroyed by Joey. Bad technique should be penalized when it causes a knock out. There is no "Poor Joey". My concern is with the player with the eyes rolling back in his head.
Exactly, especially considering Walsh may have to retire early due to getting hit many times in the head, I think he needs to change up his technique, but it seems like he has a target on him by opposition sides.
you guys said it all , certain players are targeted its 2024 now. NRL has to make a ruling absolutley NO targeting any players at all ,,, club and origin re write the rules to avoid all of this backlash and endless talk back shows ,,,,,,,,,, its football not HIA,,,, ball and just play footy. well done Ashley send him off never to play again , make an example , and i bet no one will do it
Wade Graham had a shocker with the ‘Walsh should run slower’ that’s embarrassing from a ex pro
That's ridiculous, that's like saying to Nathan Cleary or Jahrome Hughes, don't kick anymore or you might get your legs taken out and tear an ACL. A former player saying (essentially) "don't play to your best ability"
Suaalii didnt fight the charge, thats all i need to know
He didn't fight it because he was already getting 4 games off 💀🤦♂️that made no sense if you just judge stuff over that f me
@@44shots6worlds why wouldn't you try and get less time? Just a question, no hate
@@lukeroberts2541 If he contested 4 he would have got 5, can you imagine the toads if he got off.
Game was over after 10mins.
Yeah, Suallii killed NSW
Slater coached a game which was a plan to beat NSW, NSW plan was to take out Walsh, wasn’t Klein’s fault it was the NSW coaching. pretty simple
I find it interesting your defending the Grub that bid the high shot!!!
No way you're calling Joey a grub but not Welsh💀🤦♂️
@@44shots6worlds right so Walsh is a grub for copping a dog shot to the face🤣 get a grip flog
It’s pretty simple don’t do the hit. Rules don’t need to be changed. That hit could have killed him. Stupid conversation.
Agree with Kev the suspension should have been way longer
NSW always grubs when it comes to origin we are the champions QLD dominate ORIGIN year after year ❤❤❤🎉🎉😅😅😅
Look it's the first time for an Origin Match..... NSW PLAYERS should learn a valuable lesson.....NO MORE HIGH SHOTS......
As a Queenslander I agree with Wade. Attacking players have a duty of care to themselves and need to consider their body position and height.
I agree about the bumber bar and lifting the knee. But slipping is unavoidable Teddy has made a career out of it.
@@IronMan-rahoyeah that line holds up if Walsh actually slips ya brain dead gronk
Joseph did, the target height changed.
@@IronMan-raho finally someone else has said Teddy
Ummmm....is it up to me where the defender hits me? That's like saying a boxer is responsible for the other boxer trying to hit his head all the time.
They targeted Walsh in game 1 last year - he goes up to take a bomb and gets hit in the air by a dude who has no interest in going for the ball. Then Walsh is on the ground and a guy comes in with a swinging arm and another guy comes in late, after the tackle is well and truly made.
This year, game 1 they target Walsh. His first carry, the defense tries to tee off on him. Nothing illegal but it shows their intent. Walsh kicks the ball away and gets hit long after the ball is gone. Then comes the tackle where he "accidentally" gets hit in the head... by a guy who is trying to decapitate him.
Stop making excuses. Someone in the NSW camp made the decision to target Walsh. The only mistake is that they thought they could beat him up and the ref wouldn't dare send someone off in an origin game.
QUEENSLANDER!
Don't change the rules for a one off.
The real Queenslanders that I’ve spoken to think it should have been ten. They get Origin.
That's a load of shit, Plenty of real NSW supporters agree that it should have been a Send Off, they get origin.
@triplem where’s Sunday sinbin??? 😢😢😢
What did Walters have to say when a Carrigan hip drop broke Hastings leg?
Carrigan got 4 weeks and ended Hastings season, Carrigan didn't set out to break the leg but accidents happen in brutal sports, Kev.
The accidental part is where Sualii was only meaning to Shoulder charge Reece in the sternum, not the head......But at the end of the day, it's still a shoulder charge, so it was a minimum of Sin Bin, but he miscalculated the height and hit Reece in the head.......That's a send off and should have been more than 4 weeks.
Um Reese didn't even have the ball during contact so talking about Joseph's tackle is pointless. Also, QLD scored in the first 5 minutes and made a clean line break during this "game ruining" play. QLD were dominating NSW in the 7th minute and went on to win the game. NSW could dial down the thuggery and play better brand of footy.
Teamwork Game plan defence confidence united loyal leadership QLD all about supporting the team not themselves the spirit of QLD up the Mighty Maroons ❤❤😅🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nope because then nsw being the grubs they are will have there key man as 18th man have a hitman on the field an just target somome knowing his not coming back but ya 18th man will and his the keyman
My point of view Walsh was a target remember last year origin game 1 NSW Blues are grubs it always be Panthers NSW Blues Queenslander ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 stop saying it accident it was legal
Nsw loses at the selection table 50% of the time. Stop picking weird sides.
Accident my arse...maquire had a target on him.......good on nate miles....you can attack the head but don't say hurty words.....
Nate Myles injured so many players by leading with his head, he should stfu.
Changing the rules opens the door for a player to only be picked for and illegal act
Suali was lucky for only 4 weeks
These were no arms in the tackle
It's better watch the game on tv you spend $309 after 7 minute turn to shit
Wade Graham wake up he should have gone lower suaalii was high and he aimed at Walsh's head and got it
Yes, new rule; Suaalii has to tackle Walsh on his knees.
In all seriousness, Walsh has to learn self preservation. He should have a talk to Alfy Langer. Suaalii's tackle was a good one and he's been hung out to dry. If Walsh tackled Suaalii in the same way, he be lauded for a good tackle.
@@robertcain3426Funny you say that when nobody else has that problem tackling Walsh!How about not launching off your feet with your shoulder and making no attempt to wrap the arms!Your either deluded or have never watched a league game before sua'ili was out to smash Walsh and it backfired and he paid the price!Stop with the bs excuses lol.....
He's 6 foot 5 and the target height changed after he put his head down.
@@aj-qj4lt First off, he didn't launch off his feet. Watch the tackle again. After he hit Walsh he went airborn, most likely in an attempt not to kill him under his weight. He also didn't do a shoulder charge. Walsh has a history of hitting his head on tacklers. Suaalli is a kid who has been unfairly hung out to dry by the nrl.
@@robertcain3426Keep telling yourself that buddy!Thats why he's taken the plea deal cause he knows he fkd up!Nobody else had a problem tackling him....Sua'ali'i had intent to hurt Walsh its state the obvious...And it backfired big time....Keep crying those salty tears buddy and try again next year....😭
Boo Hoo. Whinging and whineing about how bad it is for NSW. What about Reece Walsh he was in a lot of trouble. That guy was airborne when he hit Reece there's just no room for that sort of violence. It was intentional and he should never play again, then it might get through to NSW that we're sick of them bashing the QLD players. NSW can't win without bashing up our players leave us alone and play the game with some dignity.
A jurno whos never played a game in his life preaching to a seasoned nrl player. That'll do it for me.
Mass change and lose again. Keep the players who were picked alrwady
Meaningless game. Game got decided in the 7th minute. After Suali got sent off we ALL knew who was going to win. In today's rugby league world you aren't going to win with a man down especially with 70 minutes to go. The fans didn't get their money's worth and it was unfair on his team mates who had to cover from sideline to sideline. The rule is OK but just needs to be revisited.
Lol anytime something happens to NSW, always talk Change the rules, QLD have been putting up with shit since Artie Beetson took the field, this is why NSW will never understand Origin, like QLD do.
@@jackoutback1605I'm not emotionally invested in either team because I'm not from there. I watch Origin because there's no NFL games on rn.
It's always an entertaining game/series with game 1 being an exception.
QLD understanding Origin is a phrase I've heard a lot over years since I followed the game. I think it's just a way to sell the game so the tv Networks and the nrl can make their money..just an outsiders view
Harden up princess 😂😂
find it ironic how Queenslanders that live in nsw claim they love Queensland so much? easy go back!
What about all you Southerners up here? I went to Sydney to make some money, but that city is soul destroying.
The match should be a annulment no contest wiped from the record books all bets refunded to protect the image of origin 12 vs 13 garbage as for the player he has a lot of work to do with his attacking positional play watching nsw submit to qld was garbage the worse ever I have seen all of them
NSW biggest problem has always been poor discipline.
girdler commentating on the match...hes as biased as the come aswell....luckily dan gunaine was the commentator with wade and wally..girdler was just in the corner crying that nsw were hard done to..this guy thinks attacking the heads fare play.....Disgusting..go commentate elsewhere if you think that.
Walsh slipping into Joey caused the hit to head. You shouldn’t ever get sent off for an accident. It’s gonna happen in games like this.
Watch it back in normal speed.. a hits a hit !!
What a bunch of bias softies
Greatest thing to happen in Origin for years Sualii hitting that overrated flog
Suaalii has been hung out to dry. It was a good tackle and he's been blamed unfairly. If Walsh tackled Suaalii in an identical way, he be lauded for a great tackle.
What rubbish. He would have been sent off and all QLD would be saying "What have you done Walsh".
Absolute rubbish and not physically possible. He hit Walsh’s head, with his shoulder and knocked him out. Origin or not, it’s a send off. If you want 13 on 13, players need to follow the rules. The playing field is a workplace which means it should be a safe place for the players. If there’s no rules, we’ll have players taking out their opponents in really dangerous ways, with no consequences. You tell me that you’d accept an unsafe environment in your workplace. I highly doubt it.
Nothing new Queensland can’t win without referees help.
Lol
Yeah winning 11 out of 12 years was a fluke ahy.
It's done and dusted ...move on 😂😂😂
And Nsw can't win fullstop lmao....Enjoy the salty tears...Oh wait is that why Nsw is currently flooding?All those salty tears....😭😭😭
Go watch game 1 last year. Klein was doing his best to keep yous in the game.
Interesting that there's basically been no media comment re potentially one of Qld's best player being taken out and the impact that had. It's all been poor old Joey being sent off and missing 4 weeks.