Making Great (and Terrible) Villains

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  • @Mangakamen
    @Mangakamen  10 місяців тому +88

    Be sure to leave a like and comment, it really helps the video greatly and the channel - And it's FREE!

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 10 місяців тому +2

      So how about Mega Man Zero and ZX series. Really good villains within the overarching plot.

    • @slyceth
      @slyceth 10 місяців тому

      What are the games featured in the intro please?

    • @kingj9664
      @kingj9664 10 місяців тому

      How come in your section with Miles Morales you didn't bring up in the tinkerer video game he has the tinker who was a friend of his

    • @siphonthemoth
      @siphonthemoth 10 місяців тому

      Can you do tomura shigaraki from my hero academia for a video.

    • @spiritupgrades
      @spiritupgrades 10 місяців тому

      15:48 Wait a minute, that's the new trailer for Chucky in Dead by Daylight.
      I would like to see you make a video of that game

  • @MokonaModokiES
    @MokonaModokiES 10 місяців тому +92

    Adding to the Miles morales thing its important to look at Batman beyond and how it balanced old returning villians with its new original ones. And even brought up the difference between both Terry and Bruce in how they are batman and how Terry defeated the joker because he IS a different batman and could laugh and play with the joker in his game.

    • @riotkitty
      @riotkitty 10 місяців тому +8

      Also that Terry and Bruce weren’t running around at the same time being called Batman. Miles and Peter are, in the same time, place, and universe, which will never not be weird.

  • @XDarkEcho
    @XDarkEcho 10 місяців тому +27

    I always liked the saying of, "A good villain believes they're the hero in their own story". Which falls hand in hand with people like MCU Thanos, and Jin Kuwana. I feel they have far more complicated and complex values and motivations, which can contrast the protagonist's own.

    • @zero1994LP
      @zero1994LP 8 місяців тому +1

      I personally Like Villains who are the the hero of there own Story. Hell I even Like the Lawfully Good type of "Villain" They do right as the law said and the law is there to do something good. But I also like Villains like dio or Kefka of FF6 who do something evil because of being evil

  • @dmittleman9757
    @dmittleman9757 10 місяців тому +275

    If you want another good example
    of villains, take a look at Puss In Boot: The Last Wish. You’ve got…
    Goldilocks and the 3 Bears: A sympathetic villain who ends up becoming an ally to the protagonists
    Jack Horner: An irredeemable monster who’s charisma and lack of humanity makes him oddly
    charming.
    Death: Unstoppable, merciless, terrifying, and a constant looming threat that’s directly linked to the main character.

    • @bungofungus
      @bungofungus 10 місяців тому +21

      i love how puss in boots 2 was able to use 3 main archetypes of villains (not including twist villains) and do all of them well

    • @mesiagamer5217
      @mesiagamer5217 10 місяців тому +2

      He already made a video on this.

    • @XDarkEcho
      @XDarkEcho 10 місяців тому +1

      I don't think I'd call Death a villain, as his actions and motivations are purely aimed at Puss. He's Puss's antagonist, but not the villain of the story; that'd fall solely to Jack, who's entire purpose is to get the wish at any means necessary for nefarious reasons. Killing his own henchmen, innocent people, and the main cast, without remorse, just as long as he gets what he wants. Goldie and the Bears, aren't villains either, if anything they're cliser to antagonists too, as well as side characters.

    • @crocoboi7936
      @crocoboi7936 10 місяців тому +2

      @@XDarkEchoI used to believe this take but now I think he’s more of a villain because he’s going out of his way to kill puss. Death shouldn’t do that death should be natural. He also said he was annoyed how cats have 9 lives.

    • @XDarkEcho
      @XDarkEcho 10 місяців тому

      @@crocoboi7936 But wasn't he more so annoyed at Puss, because he threw his lives away so carelessly, and without learning from those lives? Puss was arrogant, which pissed Death off, even while on his last life; so instead of waiting, he decided to just take it. It wasn't until Puss learned to value his life, outside of his narcissistic mentality over being a "living legend", did Death finally leave him be; because he learned his lesson, even if it angers him.
      I'd still say he's an antagonist, solely since he does only, and ONLY, go after Puss and no one else. Practically toying with him, when he's such a supernatural being, that he possibly could've killed him at any moment if willed it.

  • @dspace4514
    @dspace4514 10 місяців тому +62

    To me a great villain is someone we have no sympathy for and even the characters themselves do not, but is still a big threat.

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu 10 місяців тому +10

      I guess you're not too hot on sympathetic villains.

    • @dspace4514
      @dspace4514 10 місяців тому +16

      @@ChiefMedicPururu yes and no.
      Like if we spent most of a show hating a villain and all of the sudden they show us they had a rough childhood like they expect me to feel bad for them.
      Like Cinder from RWBY.

    • @bahesb2419
      @bahesb2419 10 місяців тому +18

      @@dspace4514 Sympathetic Villains can Work too if done right like The Final Villain of Persona 5 Royal.

    • @Unapologeticweeb
      @Unapologeticweeb 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@bahesb2419or ff14 emet selch dude want to just bring back the people he cares about
      Only downside being that sort of required 12 entire universes to die

    • @ericwijaya2119
      @ericwijaya2119 10 місяців тому

      Seija Kijin :

  • @bahesb2419
    @bahesb2419 10 місяців тому +54

    Another thing I think what makes A great Villain is how they fit into The Theme of the Story. Every Story has a Theme and The Villain must fit into this Theme somehow. The More they fit into The story’s Ideas or Themes the More Well Written they are. They can embody The Theme of the Story itself or be The complete Opposite of the Story‘s themes.
    An example For villains who embody the themes of their Storys Are Dio and Monokuma:
    Jojo is About Fate and how every Joester is destined to be a hero and Help others. Dio fits well with the Theme of the Series, Because he is the Evil from the Past haunting The future, the evil That influence The Joestars lifes even when he‘s gone.
    Danganronpa is About Despair and Distrust. And Monokuma fits the Story so well because he Is the One Giving everyone the Motive to Kill eachother, causing The despair to Happen in the First Place. But while He’s The Evil Mascot controlling the Killing Games, He Plays his Game Fairly(Most of The Time) By following the Rules of the Game, which makes him Help the Hereos from Time to Time like Fixing Nekomaru, Helping them By they're Investigations or Even Teaming up with them to Figure out the Culprit .But because he’s the Villain he can’t Be always Trusted as he can manipulate the Heroes if He wants to, like when he Manipulated Aoi to trying get everyone Killed in THH chapter 4 or Making them think the Future foundation is Evil in GD or even The very first Chapter of V3. Because of his very Nature you don’t know when to Trust him or not. And Because of that he fits well into The series of Danganronpa where you don‘t know who to trust and where despair can come from everywhere.
    And for examples for Villains who go against The Theme of The story is Adachi: The Story of Persona 4 is about Growth and Making Connections and by the end of the Story you see how the Main cast developed. Adachi didn‘t though. Adachi Shut ties with most of humanity and didn‘t grow or learned. He envies those who Have friends, a Good Life when he can have it too if he really tried. He shows what Yu(The Protagonist) or any other Member of the Party could have been if they Never Grew or made contact with others.

    • @Scaryland42
      @Scaryland42 10 місяців тому +1

      Why do you Capitalise literally Everything

    • @ZeroTheHeartlessKing
      @ZeroTheHeartlessKing 10 місяців тому +4

      @@Scaryland42 might be a OCD thing (i use to have that issue when i was little, took a while to get out of it)
      i'm more annoyed that not all of it is capitalized lol

  • @marykateharmon
    @marykateharmon 10 місяців тому +7

    For villains it would be fun to see you make videos of. The classic Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty would certainly be a treat, going into how she perfectly matches your list above and how that feeds into why she's iconic.
    Another one that would fit into your three traits though is a very obscure villain is the Bishop from Ladyhawke. He's certainly an evil man and has been for some time, but there's a personal connection with how his jealousy that Isabeau would reject his suit to become his mistress and instead marry the captain of the guards, Navarre, leads to him making a bargain with the devil that brings about the curse they both live under now, with his main motivation being 'if I can't have her, than none will". And all throughout, he's seen as a genuine threat and shows himself to be so. I'd heavily recommend the movie itself also, because it's truly one of those overlooked gems that I think you would enjoy.

  • @cosmicspacething3474
    @cosmicspacething3474 10 місяців тому +7

    Side note, I love how Spiderverse almost single handedly changed Miles from another boring token character to one of the best protagonists in fiction.

  • @TerryB01
    @TerryB01 10 місяців тому +5

    As far as I'm concerned the villain makes or breaks a video game.

  • @crystalhydra4779
    @crystalhydra4779 10 місяців тому +7

    A Villain Deep Dive on Kazuya from tekken would be fun

  • @JaxonHex
    @JaxonHex 10 місяців тому +2

    A great example of a fun villain who is still dangerous is Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2.
    He makes small talk, cracks jokes, and is right in some ways. Pandora and the universe they live in is filled with evil of all kinds. But he also justifies everything he does from tutoring innocent people, openly poisoning towns and laughing at the outcome, and what he did to his daughter all under the guise of "I'm the Hero, you are the villain."

  • @airoarts2038
    @airoarts2038 10 місяців тому +2

    One of my favourite villains archetype is one who believes the ends justify the means, I find it so interesting when a character knows they are doing bad but still goes through their plan. I also think a relationship between hero and villain is so important as its not just literal stakes but also personal stakes, also the interaction they have towards each other and the impact they have on each other.

  • @SiliconSlyWolf
    @SiliconSlyWolf 10 місяців тому +1

    I like when heroes and villains have a connection, but sometimes it goes overboard. My favorite JRPG feels borderline to me on connections, but does well enough in the end I feel they didn't push the constant recurring villains too far (and for a video game, often "same" fights again, and again, and again, which is where I hate it most being too connected). But in this game, your first character is an "amnesiac" clone body replacement of a noble status suitor to the kingdom's princes and the original guy also worked with the main villain, who also becomes antagonistic to the main villain as well. The main villain also trained both of these guys, is the sister to one of your other party members who gets caught up in events with that clone character in your party. The original nobleman is also involved in the same organization that contains the strongly implied father of the apparently illegitimate and adopted princess. The sister to the main villain was also trained by another member in the opposing organization under the main villain and brother. One of your characters is mostly just the creator of the technology that can make clones, which ties in with one of your other side companions being a clone of a major church member, who also has a "failed" clone of that secondary main character in the main villain's group. And that guy that invented the cloning technology, there's another guy in the main villain organization that was a student I believe with the inventor of the cloning tech in your party. Then there's a character in your main party that is a defender of the side character clone I mentioned, and now rival to a former guarding of the now dead previous clone of that guy, who isn't allowed to be involved in the current clone and is also in the main villain's organization. Finally, there is a servant to your original main clone character who used to live on a land destroyed in a war, the land that was home to the main villain as well.
    Now, I said I feel it isn't that bad in practice in the game, but isn't that still one jacked up and confusing web of character relations for the entire party and main villains?
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    If you're this far down and still reading past spoiler warning, that game is Tales of the Abyss

  • @marykateharmon
    @marykateharmon 10 місяців тому +2

    I do love how you present things. My thing with Salem from RWBY though is that really, the connection with Ruby is secondary to her connection with Ozpin, which is highly personal and does cause her to have had an initial, relatable motivation before she turned to pure evil. If it was made clear that Oz was a full on secondary hero, then Salem would work and then Ruby would have the direct personal connections with Cinder and Neo along with others as the series went along and then Ruby's connection with Salem would mainly be due to her connection with Ozpin and then you could get into ideological differences between the two of them which could then set them up as good foils to each other. However, the writing and the way the stories have gone have not set that up and are instead throwing away that potential. Which is really a shame because Salem would be interesting in a different story where the focus is on accepting the death/changes of loved ones and the need to let them go where Salem would be refusing to let Ozpin go and being an evil villain in order to punish Ozpin for 'leaving' her after all she did to bring him back to life. Ozpin then would have a character arc where he starts out fearful and slightly pessimistic because of what he's seen Salem turned into, but then learns how to mourn who Salem once was and let her go and thereby be able to stand up against her again and fight back against her plans, accepting people willingly into his life again.

  • @amirgarcia547
    @amirgarcia547 10 місяців тому +2

    For me, what makes a certainly great villain is either a:
    1. They’re memorable or entertaining
    2. They have understandable motives, whether or not they’re actually sympathetic
    3. They have a personal connection to the main character and/or cast
    Not every villain has all three, but doing so is what separates a good villain from a great villain to me. And having none at all…well, that’s when you know you’ve failed at one. Though funnily enough, the reason Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is goated is because it actually separates all three into…well, three different villains. Jack Horner is entertaining due to being a terrible and reprehensible scumbag with no remorse whatsoever, Godliocks has very understandable goals rather than just wanting the wish for purely selfish reasons, like with Jack Horner, and Death has a personal connection to Puss that challenges his own main goal of regaining his lost lives.
    As much as I enjoyed Castlevania Nocturne, its villains were a large downgrade from the OG show simply because outside of Orlox, who isn’t evn the main antagonist, they lacked much if any of what I mentioned, especially when compared to the likes of Dracula, Carmilla or eventually Saint Germaine. But overall, writing a compelling villain can be pretty difficult if you can’t nail the execution, which’s why media is made all the better when they’re one of if not the best part of it.

  • @barrycreation6476
    @barrycreation6476 10 місяців тому +1

    There is a cartoon called Incredible Ant. It has at least one Gillian that I think would be interesting to talk about. The show is 26 episodes that last 11 minutes each.

  • @Inhaledcorn
    @Inhaledcorn 10 місяців тому +1

    Emet-Selch of FFXIV: Shadowbringers
    He formerly introduces himself rather early in Shadowbringers (though the player is made known about him a bit beforehand in Stormblood to set him up in Shadowbringers). He actually pals around with the protagonist and even helps them at times (as well as giving them and the players extra lore information either directly or when asked). He's rather chummy all things considering.
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    He is also the guy who built the evil Empire of FFXIV (Garlemald), helped to instigate SEVERAL world-ending Calamities (and I mean World-ending literally), and shoots your cat boyfriend in the back after he tried to save your life (because you ate a little too much light and started to turn into a monster. I makes sense in context, I swear). You find out that he's doing all of this because he's trying to restore everyone to their "true selves" as the people that exist are just fractions of the people they used to be (they were the Ancients, could basically live forever if they so choose, had the ability to create objects and life on a whim, had no war or famine, basically a utopia). But, the original Calamity (known as the End of Days) caused this amazing power of Creation Magic to turn against the users causing them to manifest terrible beasts that destroyed them and the planet. They literally had to sacrifice half of their people to make a God to stop it, then sacrifice another half of those people to give Him the power to fix everything. He's been living for over 10000 years as one of the last of his kind and thinks that the people who are inheriting the planet just aren't *worthy* of it.
    I mean, imagine if you were one of the last people on Earth after everything else was wiped out, and a bunch of cockroaches started making little cities and thinking they were the most intelligent life on the planet.
    Oh, and to top that all off, the player character is the reincarnation of one of Emet's best friends. Said best friend had "betrayed" him by not joining him in the big God sacrifice. Emet is *especially* angry toward the PC but also weirdly attached to them. I cannot do Emet-Selch justice in just words, but he's one of the most beautifully complex villains that you have to stop but you do not feel good about it. Absolute masterwork of writing.

  • @sharkjumpingwalrus6744
    @sharkjumpingwalrus6744 10 місяців тому +1

    I agree with you you to an extent about Movie 'Thanos. The whole arbitrary 50% and the fact it was randomly chosen undermines the idea of a Thanos who is disillusioned with his actions benefiting people. That wouldn't stop him from making logical choices like targeting people biased on the amount of resources they waste, and basing the percent culled on what he believes to be the planets ability to support that population. Even if the villain is mad you still need them to consider the consequences of their actions, and whether those actions would accomplish their goals.
    Take Bondrew from Made in Abyss, a mad scientist who is willing to subject people to fates worse than death to further his understanding of the abyss. Ever experiment he has done has been to further the development of mankind and he believes that the abyss holds secrets that would help bring about a new dawn for mankind. This is a man who is willing to poison parts of the environment because he found that dangerous insects come from those places, and impeded progress in diving into Abyss. I can't go into a lot of details because much of it is spoilers, but Bondrew faced a similar dilemma to Thanos and the Soul Stone, and had he a very creative solution to that problem. He considered the consequences of his actions, and always took the course that he believed would draw him closer to his goal.

  • @colby2628
    @colby2628 10 місяців тому

    I feel like the best example of a funny villain i can think of thats funny but a pretty horrific threat is handsome jack

  • @ShockedTaiLung
    @ShockedTaiLung 10 місяців тому +1

    aw yeah its MangaKamen time!

  • @moistwindow6094
    @moistwindow6094 10 місяців тому +2

    Lol, my immense confusion seeing rwby in the spoiler list for a movie called making great villains, cleared up now but still

  • @brandonlewis2861
    @brandonlewis2861 10 місяців тому +1

    King Crimson. And maybe a video on Arlong and Hodey from One Piece given they have similar motivations but they did things a little different from each other.

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon 10 місяців тому +1

    Can you talk about Assassin’s creed; a blood dragon remix; unfortunately staring Captain lasercock rather than the lavender menace wearing a frog fursuit.

  • @Toshineko
    @Toshineko 10 місяців тому +2

    I agree with you about all of the villains you mentioned, except for Thanos in the MCU. Yes, his motivation isn't smart, but it is relatable. His planet Titan got destroyed due to overpopulation, so, he believed that in order to prevent it from happening, he could just snap his fingers and kill half of the earth's population. It's another example of the hero of his own story, and I honestly think it works quite well.
    As for what specific villain that I want you to mention in the next video. I'd prefer Sir Crocodile. It would be awesome to hear what lessons writers can take from Crocodile, especially in terms of threat, personal connection, motivation and how to make sure the villains give the heroes as much trouble as possible. I consider Crocodile to be the masterclass for them. In fact, he's pretty much one of my inspirations for my own villain.

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  10 місяців тому +4

      "Yes, his motivation isn't smart, but it is relatable. His planet Titan got destroyed due to overpopulation, so, he believed that in order to prevent it from happening, he could just snap his fingers and kill half of the earth's population. It's another example of the hero of his own story, and I honestly think it works quite well. "
      To be completely respectful - I do not agree with that. 'It's relatable" you did not explain how it is relatable, are you saying that to deal with overpopulation, the rationale is to kill half of the people instead of trying to find alternative solutions such as finding other planets with resources, using their space technology to find another habitable planet?
      I do not agree that it's relatable.

    • @Toshineko
      @Toshineko 10 місяців тому

      I think what I meant by relatable is that Thanos thinks that a ''quick-fix'' like killing half the population instantly would make the problem go away in an instant.
      I find it relatable since I too wish there was a quick-fix to those problems, especially overpopulation, but in real life, that's not how it works. The quick-fix solution we have for the world's problems might do more harm than good, and there are always alternatives.
      I guess when you look at it that way, it is relatable, but I think it's a good way of asking us questions, like, ''Would killing half the population really solve it?'', ''If we could solve overpopulation, is there a quick-fix solution or are there better alternatives?'' ''If Thanos allowed the population to live, would that make the problem worse or better?''
      Then again, I don't agree that killing people would solve anything, even if it is a quick-fix, but I could sort of understand where Thanos was coming from.

    • @ghost2inkling229
      @ghost2inkling229 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Mangakamenthere is a theory that kinda excuses the not so smart reason of wiping out half ofthe universe, it involves these things called Celestials or something, where they feed off of the evolution of civilization on the current planets and once the civilization reached its peak the thing awakens causing mass destruction or little to nothing since they all vary, this theory I think was started from the eternal series and old comic books

    • @Toshineko
      @Toshineko 10 місяців тому

      @@ghost2inkling229 Huh. That's an interesting theory, ghost2inkling229

    • @ghost2inkling229
      @ghost2inkling229 10 місяців тому

      @@Toshineko i done forgot where I heard it from but I consider it Canon since I refuse to think Thanos is a thick skull kind of person

  • @dontemorgan1517
    @dontemorgan1517 10 місяців тому +10

    Hollywood and western media had truly forgotten how to write good villains. They always have to make them generic and bland, sympathize an homicide maniac who will either take over the world or destroy the entire planet after killing a lot of people, and won't take risk without making people "offended" about it. Thank God Anime and Manga knows how to make villains as villains.

  • @Djdonkeyash-fn1cz
    @Djdonkeyash-fn1cz 10 місяців тому +1

    Bro dio is the goat villain he is widely considered to be one of the best antagonists in manga and anime history. His charismatic, manipulative, and ruthless nature, along with his immense powers and twisted goals, make him a complex and intriguing character.
    Here are some reasons why he is considered the best villain:
    1. Powers and abilities: Dio has a wide range of powers and abilities, including time stopping, super strength, rapid regeneration, and the ability to freeze objects with his touch. These abilities make him a formidable opponent in battle, and he often uses them in creative and unexpected ways to outsmart his enemies.
    2. Manipulative and cunning: Dio is a master manipulator, able to deceive and manipulate those around him to achieve his goals. He is also highly intelligent and strategic, and he often thinks several steps ahead of his enemies to gain an advantage.
    3. Charisma: Despite his evil nature, Dio is also a charismatic and charming character, able to draw others to his side and convince them to follow him. He has a powerful presence and a strong personality, which make him a formidable and memorable villain.
    4. Backstory: Dio's backstory is also a key part of his character, as it explains why he is the way he is. He was raised in poverty and abuse, which led him to develop a deep hatred for humanity and a desire for power and control. This backstory also serves to make him a more complex and tragic figure, as it reveals his reasons for acting the way he does.
    Overall, Dio is considered the best villain not just because of his powers and abilities, but also because he is a well-rounded and complex character with a rich backstory that makes him an unforgettable antagonist.

  • @ninjabros6282
    @ninjabros6282 10 місяців тому +1

    KING CRIMSON!
    Hey I'm not sure if this be on the table but when it comes to the Variety of villains I know of like one or two from Dreamworks like that Puss in Boots Video ya made back then but it's of one from Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2
    Tai Lung and Lord Shen
    just a suggestion 😉👍

  • @pillfllip8936
    @pillfllip8936 10 місяців тому +1

    This was such an enjoyable video! If you decide to make this into a series or just decide to make another video like this one, I would like to see you cover side-characters another time with a format like this one.

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  10 місяців тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @jenniferpratt3007
    @jenniferpratt3007 10 місяців тому +2

    I’m a HUGE Power Rangers fan and I like the more comedic route Cosmic Fury took but I feel like the Zedd moment was one of the times it failed. I way to make it work would be for example, The green ranger says that same line however right after she’s done Zedd blasts them all with some lightning to show he’s not messing around. That could work!

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, there's nothing wrong with making jokes at villains, it comes down to the villain's response - If you insult a guy with massive power, maybe instead of making a Z in the cliff face, fire an attack at the rangers, specifically green, and have the rangers dodge it.
      Shows the villain is serious, and that the heroes are at the very least competent enough to DODGE.

    • @jenniferpratt3007
      @jenniferpratt3007 10 місяців тому

      @@Mangakamen that’s what I mean! I’ve seen a few scenes in some power rangers series where I’m screaming “MOVE YOU DAMN LEGS!” Anyway love your content peace bro.

  • @mesiagamer5217
    @mesiagamer5217 10 місяців тому +1

    King Crimson. Honestly shovel knight could be a good choice considering how deep the villains can be.

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 10 місяців тому

    16:27 Come now, he's still miles above the villains of Phase 4, such as the Flag Smashers.

  • @VioletSkipperX194
    @VioletSkipperX194 10 місяців тому +1

    17:38 i have never understood this argument as just because a game is old doesnt mean that everyone had an opportunity to play it.

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 10 місяців тому +17

    Honestly it would’ve been better if Thanos in the movie was manipulated by death, who taking advantage of him when he was insane and lonely to convince him to kill half of all life in the universe so she can grow in power.🤔🐱

    • @100lovenana
      @100lovenana 8 місяців тому +1

      That would've been perfect... But, as always, fans tend to come up with better versions of stories

  • @awesomewott5137
    @awesomewott5137 10 місяців тому

    It would be really cool to see your analysis on how to make a good redeemable villian and how to make a villian a good protagonist.
    Love your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @acnight1046
    @acnight1046 10 місяців тому

    Don't wanna spoil it for anyone who didn't reach it, but the main villain of Fate/GO Lostbelt 6... holy shit...

  • @endereaper
    @endereaper 10 місяців тому

    KING CRIMSON sounds like a good idea

  • @TKHedgeHog
    @TKHedgeHog 10 місяців тому

    Only a minute and a half in and we got a cimoment, I love this channel.

  • @TheRasp10
    @TheRasp10 10 місяців тому +1

    Honestly a video about the danganronpa villians mainly SPOILERS:
    junko, izaru, the warriors of hope, haji, dr3 "villain" and tsumugi.

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 10 місяців тому

    RWBY personally feels like they dropped the ball too hard with the main villains like Cinder and Emerald. They want them to be truly malicious villains yet also want us to sympathize with them, Cinder because of her abusive backstory, and Emerald seemingly being more repentant as things go on.
    However, the problem is they do it WAY too late for it to click. Cinder by the time we get her backstory she's already destroyed Beacon, Murdered Pyrrha, had a hand in all but destroying Haven, helped destabilize three separate nations, been indirectly responsible for destroying and killing thousands of people and makes it painfully clear she wants power for no other reason than because she wants to be powerful. By this point the audience hates Cinder to the point of wanting nothing more than her death to be brutal and painful and no backstory given will make us feel anything other than rage for her.
    Emerald similarly didn't start showing apprehension to what she's doing until Volumne 7 and 8, prior to that she knew exactly what she was getting into, was shown to have zero issue murdering innocent people, was instrumental in the fall of Beacon, happily mocked and insulted everyone behind their back and again helped with the attack on Haven. Her only now showing remorse just doesn't feel genuine.

  • @GoldPrince2468
    @GoldPrince2468 10 місяців тому +1

    I think Diavolo would be a great villain to look at. Maybe even look at a few Disney villains like Count Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame or// K I N G C R I M S O N //underrated for that very fact.

  • @birthdayfruitecake8158
    @birthdayfruitecake8158 9 місяців тому +1

    Not to be a jerk, but I just wanted to comment (I hope it helps the channel either way, so there's that at least) that I am so sick of this "need to intrigue" as a rule. Intrigue is a legitimate form of interest, but then again so is passion, appreciation, fun... and yet everywhere I turn on UA-cam or even occasionally on background television, or in a library book, from a workshop mates having to use it every week, it's "intrigued this" and "intriguing that" while so much stuff like black coffee and non-pretentious cars get written off as, not disappointingly boring, but despairingly boring like it's a sudden illness up the veins contracting by something not teasing you with mystique. And now, there's a flipping *rule* saying that a certain type of character needs to intrigue? I've already bumped into advice saying you always "need intriguing characters" and it annoys me that that's the first rule because certain characters aren't meant to intrigue, but maybe be upfront. One could say "we all have our secrets" but that doesn't even have to be the main focus for the villain or the love interest or the main cast. It depresses me to anger, because characters offer so much more that tends to get dismissed if there's no *intrigue* and I often get met with the sentiment of "why would anyone care?" I'd care, because the character can just be a person, who doesn't live and die (as they're often treated) as a mystery.
    Yes, I'm one of those people who commented something negative less than fifteen seconds in before leaving. I'm not saying this video is bad, because I don't know. It's from the MangaKamen channel, so I *assume* it's likely good. It's not getting a dislike from me. I just can't keep watching a video with the word "intrigued" or "intriguing" or whatnot anymore because it feels so overused and undercooked that it's lost its meaning, at least to me, all while being so strict.
    Yeah, also I just wanted to vent. Thanks to anyone who read this.

  • @elvishcyborg4275
    @elvishcyborg4275 10 місяців тому

    King Crimson would make a banger video ngl

  • @nishchayjain1121
    @nishchayjain1121 10 місяців тому

    If you can look at a character, who is connected to the hero, it’s Reverse Flash, in a lot of media, Reverse Flash is from the 25th century and he was responsible for Barry’s mom’s death(he revealed it in Flash Rebirth comic that came in 2009).

  • @DrakeKnight99
    @DrakeKnight99 10 місяців тому

    What makes the Thanos way fucking stupider is from the What If episode Pather as star lord where there is an item called the Embers of Genesis when can almost instantly revive dead planets and end galactic hunger.
    Why didn't Thanos use that? It terraformed Knowhere in a matter of minutes into a lush thriving planet and they only used 5 spores
    Just 5 terraformed a decapitated celestial head into a thriving ecosystem in minutes

  • @insanemakaioshin
    @insanemakaioshin 10 місяців тому

    Villain requests:
    Lord Zedd
    Dark Specter
    Loptr (Bayonetta series)
    Legend of Zelda: Demise (The source of all evil), Ganon & Vaati (the 2nd most reoccurring)
    Bowser
    King Boo
    Riser Phenex
    Koichi Shido
    Belial (7 mortal Sins)
    Freya (Danmachi)
    Chloe Mansfield
    Zs'Skayr

  • @bobalinx8762
    @bobalinx8762 8 місяців тому

    0:58 Nice JJBATAS use!

  • @ErikVonStrix3
    @ErikVonStrix3 10 місяців тому

    7:18 "and if "No, i am your father" spoiled you... well, I guess you must be living under a rock for 30 years"
    Empire Strikes Back came out in 1980, so that's not a 30 year old spoiler... that's a spoiler that has been in engrained in our culture for OVER 40 YEARS!

  • @AlecEburhard
    @AlecEburhard 10 місяців тому +1

    I’d love for you to do a video on SPOILERS For CHAINSAW MAN
    Makima

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
    @Warrior-Of-Virtue 10 місяців тому

    16:18 I completely agree with you. I absolutely despised this interpretation on so many levels. Not only was it a complete bastardization of his comicbook counterpart but it didn't even make sense. If there weren't enough resources to go around, just use the Gauntlet to increase the amount of resources in the universe. And yes, the Gauntlet has that kind of power. It's basically the universal equivalent of the debug menu. You can literally do anything you can imagine with it.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 10 місяців тому +1

      The best way to interpret MCU Thanos is that he’s an idiot throwing a tantrum over the fact that people rejected his stupid ideas, and he’s setting out to “prove” himself right by enforcing his way as the only way.
      I just really wish the movies actually hinted at that better instead of playing up the “tragic protagonist” angle.

  • @rxicbeintoxic2682
    @rxicbeintoxic2682 10 місяців тому

    Video idea: Give me your house keys. (Just trust me)

  • @gfggft345
    @gfggft345 10 місяців тому

    In Pro Wrestling what makes a Villain great is him getting the Hero "over"
    A Heel is supposed to get the crowd to like the babyface. His job is to get under the audiences skin and get the People to cheef for the good guy to finally beat him up. Very few Villains manage to do that unfortunately
    Thats why i honestly think a good villain should never be "cool".

  • @ChaserNeos
    @ChaserNeos 10 місяців тому

    I never really liked when Thanos's reason in the Avenger's movie. His reasoning reminded me of the works of Charles Malthus, whose theories in actuality lead to men being evil and neglectful, such as during the Irish Potato Famine. He was never one you were suppose to sympathize with and I gave people the side eye when they said stuff like that,

  • @ieuansmith518
    @ieuansmith518 10 місяців тому

    I haven't read Beserk (yet), but I think I can safely say that Griffith is a top-tier villain. Like I said, I can't speak much for the guy but I do know he... Well, cause things to happen to Guts (Things I can not say here for many, MANY, reason but if you know, you know), and said things gave Guts a very damn good reason to kill him, and in general the guy was a well developed, sympathetic (at first) and deeply interesting character, that all gets carried over when he becomes a villain, but minus the sympathy after everything that happened in the Eclipse. (if you know... YOU KNOW)

  • @nishchayjain1121
    @nishchayjain1121 10 місяців тому

    Or you can look at Johan Libert from Monster. He was connected to the protagonist, Dr Tenma. Monster is a dark anime series.

  • @aliuwu18
    @aliuwu18 10 місяців тому

    its the way i was watching kamen’s doflamingo video last night…

  • @kingj9664
    @kingj9664 10 місяців тому

    Great video is always Man And yes I would like to see a video about King Crimson

  • @TheKoriKasai
    @TheKoriKasai 10 місяців тому +1

    Emperor crimson

  • @sharzinlalebazri5673
    @sharzinlalebazri5673 10 місяців тому

    Okay, I'm pretty sure I heard Scraper Sky High from Undernight In-Birth during the Lord Zedd section.

  • @stormwarrior5362
    @stormwarrior5362 10 місяців тому

    What a great video. Now I wonder if you are able of explaining K(r)big Crimson!

  • @superjamaleo354
    @superjamaleo354 10 місяців тому +1

    King crimson

  • @digitalwarrior5862
    @digitalwarrior5862 10 місяців тому

    i am curious MangaKamen, can you talk about what make villains great and terrible in the anime/manga series know as FATE

  • @indulgencerofindulgence5970
    @indulgencerofindulgence5970 10 місяців тому

    16:32; Finally. Is so bad, they should just made it so he was courting death

  • @silverknight532
    @silverknight532 10 місяців тому

    Love it

  • @venomgaming7014
    @venomgaming7014 10 місяців тому

    Doffy is a top 3 one piece villain. And a top 5 anime villain imo.

  • @WesnothNanoMinerPL
    @WesnothNanoMinerPL 10 місяців тому +1

    King Crimson

  • @theentirepopulationofswede3171
    @theentirepopulationofswede3171 10 місяців тому +1

    KINGU CRIMSON!

  • @KinamOfMyth
    @KinamOfMyth 10 місяців тому +1

    KING CRIMSON! Normally I don't comment unless I had something else to say, but Diavolo is probably my favorite Jojo villain. Side note, I somehow didn't realize til now, if Thanos was worried about using up resources, why didn't he just make an infinite supply of resources? He had the power to bend all of reality to his will.

  • @themphantom9138
    @themphantom9138 10 місяців тому

    First of All, if you're an Author, don't Disrespect Them while writing.

  • @InsecureImp
    @InsecureImp 10 місяців тому

    Make video about handsome jack

  • @mindwipe8788
    @mindwipe8788 10 місяців тому +2

    “King Crimson”

  • @Ineedgames
    @Ineedgames 10 місяців тому

    Wasn't Thano's motivation supposed to be insane?
    He lost in the end because it was a half baked motivation that he never understood why people hated it.

  • @IsabellaMathew
    @IsabellaMathew 10 місяців тому

    How about villains that are supposed to be jokes. Like ice king from adventure Time or zen from invader Zim

  • @Realmidboss
    @Realmidboss 10 місяців тому +1

    KING CRIMSON.
    A video about it I say.............. it just works.

  • @miguelescobedo5112
    @miguelescobedo5112 10 місяців тому

    4:52 Highlight of the video.

  • @kickyard
    @kickyard 10 місяців тому

    Whats the end credit song pls

  • @yoitsthattoastguy
    @yoitsthattoastguy 10 місяців тому +1

    Alex Cimo Jumpscare?

  • @jacketuniverse3986
    @jacketuniverse3986 10 місяців тому

    What's the name of the intro music

  • @sverrioross9327
    @sverrioross9327 9 місяців тому

    King Crimson!

  • @justingallo7123
    @justingallo7123 10 місяців тому

    Do a video on Evolt from kamen rider Build

  • @JonathanBundy
    @JonathanBundy 10 місяців тому

    King Crrisiom

  • @finalninju6021
    @finalninju6021 10 місяців тому

    キング-クリムゾン

  • @lulu_TheWitchBoy
    @lulu_TheWitchBoy 10 місяців тому

    4:54 You watch alex lennen???

  • @gravityhero2227
    @gravityhero2227 10 місяців тому

    I wonder what Holly's stand would actually be called?

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 10 місяців тому +1

      “Have a Holly Jolly Christmas”
      I’m joking of course

    • @gravityhero2227
      @gravityhero2227 10 місяців тому

      @@emblemblade9245 I shouldn't be laughing but that's actually pretty funny.

  • @mariofan9974
    @mariofan9974 10 місяців тому

    King crrrimson!

  • @strangedeadmonster9246
    @strangedeadmonster9246 10 місяців тому

    Emperor crimson!!1

  • @hekati7889
    @hekati7889 10 місяців тому

    KINGE CURRIIMMSUON

  • @kidsannd
    @kidsannd 10 місяців тому

    KING CRIMSON!!!!!!

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 10 місяців тому

    9:32 oops
    XD

  • @nvnvnv13
    @nvnvnv13 10 місяців тому

    Nah, nah. I actually agree that movie!Thanos is really stupid. I'm bad at history, but even I know what he's doing is not going to change anything. Humans will never stand on the same field. Some will always be rich, while others poor. Some will always be smart, while others dumb. That's just how humans are.
    I'd rather Thanos acted like how his comic counterpart did too. At least he look and sound like a villain there, and not someone who tried to justify his wrongdoing. But eeehhhh you know how Disney are this day. Villain will always have a tragic backstory. Not saying it's bad, but if you keep doing it constantly and without a break, it's going to get stale after a while 😔

  • @WaifuAquamarine
    @WaifuAquamarine 10 місяців тому

    KINGU CURIMSON!!!

  • @grimgiles55
    @grimgiles55 10 місяців тому

    King Crimson!!!!

  • @coldmajima0068
    @coldmajima0068 10 місяців тому +1

    King Crimson!
    Pls👉👈

  • @redkujaku8817
    @redkujaku8817 10 місяців тому +1

    King Crimson

  • @geschnitztekiste4111
    @geschnitztekiste4111 10 місяців тому

    Kingu Curimson

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois 10 місяців тому +201

    Crocodile is a great example of a calm/cool collected villain who’s always one step a head of the hero until the very end

    • @Toshineko
      @Toshineko 10 місяців тому +18

      Amen to that. He is one of my favorite villains from One Piece, as well as my favorite villain of all time.

    • @crocoboi7936
      @crocoboi7936 10 місяців тому +7

      I’m such a Classic James Bond villain

    • @mjmoffatt6097
      @mjmoffatt6097 10 місяців тому

      ​@@crocoboi7936the guy from the G8 arc was a better James Bond villain than you

    • @crocoboi7936
      @crocoboi7936 10 місяців тому

      @@mjmoffatt6097 don’t make me get Mihawk to beat you up.

  • @gridhunter8592
    @gridhunter8592 10 місяців тому

    king crimson

  • @ramonllerenas1435
    @ramonllerenas1435 10 місяців тому

    King Crimson!

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 10 місяців тому +371

    Video Idea: How to Make a Character that can carry entire series

  • @dejinnthedjinn5311
    @dejinnthedjinn5311 10 місяців тому +50

    King Crimson.
    I will say, a villain I like despite not really having too much motivation is Aizen from Bleach. I love how much of a scum bag he is and how much of a planning manipulator he is. His lack of backstory is also interesting as it leaves some room for speculation since we only got a hint as to what caused Aizen to become a villain.

    • @yeetme3032
      @yeetme3032 10 місяців тому +2

      Though I love bleach for the spectacle, it's power scaling and villains just not being up to the the mark make me really sad, they feel like a missed opportunity

    • @Tyler_Frenzy
      @Tyler_Frenzy 10 місяців тому +6

      Aizen not having too much motivation when his goal was to remake reality to an utopia with himself being revered as a God so that he wouldn't feel isolated is such a hilarious way to put it.

    • @boolboi2296
      @boolboi2296 10 місяців тому

      exactly lol like it’s actually really clear what his purpose is if you just pay attention to the manga

    • @kevintanza6968
      @kevintanza6968 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Tyler_Frenzy no offense to the original comment, but most people analyze Bleach from a superficial perspective. There is also the element of the Soul King as well.

  • @beaneater4277
    @beaneater4277 10 місяців тому +25

    A Diavolo video would be super interesting, he’s a villain that gets a lot of smack from the community, but he’s honestly one of my favourites

    • @Dawg-ou3gd
      @Dawg-ou3gd 8 місяців тому +3

      Probably because he is far more boring, but I do like his connection with Doppio