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SK may still have 26 million people by 2100, but 75% may be seniors and their working population may be only 3-4 million most of them working as elderly helpers. What this means is their country’s weak economy may collapse decades before 2100.
@@amandagrant4331 as if it were a good idea to import population from other places, Unless you do the same thing that rich Muslim countries do, migrant workers are literally slaves with no opportunity to escape from the country, and yet slaves are bad for the economy in the long term
@r.c.8268 You are misguided. Just go to the gulf countries and ask the workers themselves where they want to stay there or return to their home countries
I just came back from living in Korea for a couple years (military family) and just wanted to add two other points you did not address: one is that the culture really only expects one child anyway at max. They are just not used to seeing large families anymore and cannot imagine having multiple children. Similar to China they had encouraged only one child in the past (but not enforced by policy like China). I, with only two small children attracted a lot of attention, but especially if we went out with our friends who had 3 kids, or another one that had 5 kids, the Koreans were blown away that people might have that many kids. The other major factor is the air pollution. I was in tears on multiple occasions because the air pollution was so bad we couldn't even take the children outside. My youngest (and a friend's child as well) would get a fever the day after really high pollution days. It was awful. We purposely did not have another child while in Korea: we waited until we were back in the States to have our 3rd child because it was so unhealthy. I didn't want a newborn breathing that air.
I forgot to also add that an additional factor would surely be the overall mental health, meaning the stress levels in general are SO high for Koreans. They have the highest suicide rate in the world.
the air pollution is coming over from China, everybody knows this. but China deny this obvious fact, which can be scientifically proven readily using satellite photos. and South Korean government is too fearful of China to raise the issue.
The main theme that keeps being repeated is that cultures that heavily drill their children into becoming perfect members of society, always seem to have the most trouble maintaining their numbers. Its almost as if cultures like these should stop treating their children like unfeeling machines.
The West as well has declining birth rates? It's just not as extreme as South Korea. Nigeria, the country my native family is from, has a high birth rate, but from interactions with extended family there is a lot of peer pressure to have kids so that isn't necessarily much better. I think a declining global population is actually healthy because we can better sustain a smaller population.
I don't know where you get your information from. Have you ever been to South Korea? Do you know any Korean people? Because you seem to have weird assumptions. I live in South Korea and it seems to me that western people actually treat their children more like machines than Korean people do.
@@Peter-mj6lz It is better to have peer pressure to have kids than peer pressure to not have kids. And you believing a declining global population is actually healthy means you haven't actually listened to the risks of a shrinking and ageing population.
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 Immigration is temporary, and brings a lot of its own issues. Most of the immigrants who come to Western countries are from either less developed countries with very different cultures (usually Islamic culture, which has often shown to be incompatible with the indigenous culture) or are from the working age group. In other words, they are not importing children, and the birth rate doesn't get increased. Never mind the fact that the immigrants can also choose to retire here, which just makes the problem worse since there will only be more retirees to take care of, which will place a greater tax burden on the working age population.
As a Korean who was put up for adoption because of multiple reasons and most where disgusting, I just want to say.....Karma! But thanks for doing it because I'm a Proud American and my big Italian military family of 8 and im #6 of 8 thank you for selling me off to America! 💚😊😆 I was a unwed child, premature and sick "not perfect, and Not a boy! Im not salty these days, it took a lot of growing and anger but im getting over it
@etvow no I see I was salty Past tense but I've realized thank God I was put up for adoption because Korea society and culture, aren't nice to people like me ever! I went to a big school where their was Asian people but I didn't fit into their Crowd, which was mind blowing but Whites. Hispanic and black welcome me more vs my own F.... people it's disgusting that Asian people are racist against their own people! I was just pointing out its Karama they where still doing this in the 90s, I was born in 91, I would of understood if it was way into the past because they didn't know better but 90s oh well my white Italian family loves me
🤣💚😆 the relentless bullying as a child people don't understand people like us, being call unwanted! I've learned Asian people are the most racist people to their own people and I've experiences it first hand! White, black and Hispanic have welcomed me in more than Asian people and that's disgusting and sad,I'll teach my half Asian children to love everyone and if their Asian counterparts won't except them, than that's their loose! Adoptee don't trust people easily and that's my problem to work on, but why should I let my guard down? But I'm working on it if you knew anything about adoption and adoptees and Asian culture then you would understand! I've learned to let it go and it'd hard but my big military Itialian family love me and that's important and I should let my anger for my people go and I have become I've also learned they don't need me, I was better off put up for adoption, and I'm grateful
Inflation is worse in other countries. You can live cheaper if you avoid (expensive areas of) big city centers or better yet continue to live with your parents longer and save up. If a birth rate of 0.72 is not enough to wake up Koreans I believe nothing will.
@@jogana6909 It's all self inflicted. Koreans don't have to participate and they would still live a comfortable live financially compared to much of the world..
@jogana6909if i were a SKyoungster i would leave the country as soon as possible for Canada or Australia..if you stay you will be squeezed by the taxes and workload..
Going to be ironic if North Korea walk down to South Korea just to see there is nobody because people literally oof themselves or get out of the country. Going to be the weirdest unification in the history.
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 North Korea has 25 million with 1.8 fertility. South Korea has 50 million with 0.75. So in two generations if nothing changes (and it can actually get worse) North Korea will have 25*(1.8/2)^2 = 20.25 million while South Korea will have 50*(0.75/2)^2 = 7.3 million
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 Nobody knows how high the birthrate in North Korea really is. The biggest difference is: North Korea will simply FORCE their population to have more kids, while South Korea dies out because they love to be occupied by USRAEL.
@@Restrocketthat doesn’t take into account the fact that North korea has a much lower life expectancy and just more deaths in general. Not to mention, Kim is eating his people’s food while they grind in his labor camps.
The childcare cost thing isnt true anymore, childcare is free for most people - i dont live in korea anymore but my friends there have free childcare to age two. imo, as a korean, the issue is cultural more than economic. People just aren't getting married and marriage is essential to having a child. life for women after marriage is not great, you are expected to give up your career which isnt finanically viable for most couples and a lot of women just don't want to do it.
Not economic? You must be joking pal. Have you seen the prices for appartments? How much one needs to pay in downpayment for rent? I could trow at you a bunch of statistical numbers, like household debt, etc. But, you can google that by yourself if interested.
The solution is to move corporate jobs out of Seoul to second tier cities. Economics must be spread out to cheaper areas to allow cheaper living and more kids.
There is much this video doesn't cover: "Hell Joseon", Neo-Confucianism, Chaebols, femcels/incels, the political/cultural/social gender gap, and the total dominance of Seoul over the rest of the country. It shouldn't be a surprise that South Koreans aren't having kids. They've done everything they can to make it impossible to get married, have a stable job, and raise a large family. Financial incentives will never be enough to fix their issues. If I was Korean I would move somewhere else for work/family. Sometimes you need to let things collapse quickly so that they can build back society in a healthier manner.
Yes but their youth culture also seems very obsessed. I meet young Koreans often and they usually don't really care for anything other than their looks, status and career. Family means nothing to them anymore.
In developed countries, bad economic situations and wars plunge birth rates even lower. Once you have a well educated population, those are the things that exactly deter people from having kids. In fact South Korea’s birth rate was slightly over 1 prior to Covid pandemic and the economic downturn that came with it, and after that, it’s dropped to 0.72
As a Korean, I am familiar with this very low birth rate problem. The first reason for this is the concentration of population in the Seoul metropolitan area. There are jobs that can make money properly. That is why half of the population of Korea lives in the metropolitan area. Second, housing prices are too expensive. The average monthly wage is 3.27 million won, but housing prices in the metropolitan area are more than 1 billion won on average, and housing prices in local cities are about 500 million won on average. Third, it does not have children. The reason for not having children is that it costs about 400 million to 500 million won to raise one child. The Korean government is also spending hundreds of trillion won to solve the birth rate, but it has not been solved. Fourth, it does not marry. They do not marry because the housing price is too expensive and it is too expensive to raise a child.
It's the same or worse everywhere. Population decline is not caused by economic reasons. You literally have one of the richest economies in the world. People just don't want sex, marriage or children cause there is too many entertainment and interesting things to do.
@@taliaeve969 Yes. The MANY men are going out to have a better live. Because being poor with many children doesn't work either. Your argument was: "They are poor und have many children, it's not about economy". IT IS about economy,, here and there.
from what i saw when i lived there a bit, the work culture is awful. They have laws that make it hard to fire you and force you overtime after 8 hours, but people who are bosses run the place like the military pretty much and make everyone's lives there miserable. On top of that, the cost of living is bad too. I will say they do have nice parks and you can get most stuff within walking distance in a city. it's just you'll be working all the time so you wont really even get to enjoy that.
They are just not doing it right, and not doing it big enough. Subsidize childcare? Subsidize this and subsidize that? Why not give people cash directly? Why do governments have such big problems giving people cash directly? You want children? You pay for it. If you are married, the couple receives US$2,000 per month. Every child you have, you receive US$5,000 per month. You have two children? That is US$12,000 per month. Still not enough? Give each couple that has children a nice apartment. And give them free childcare. I bet you anything this kind of spending would reverse the falling birth rate.
The problem is culture. If the culture was pro-family, people would want to have children and government and employers would make it easy to do. This is the problem in the rest of East Asia and in Europe and North America too. Throwing money at the problem won't fix it. You have to change people's beliefs first. That takes a very long time.
It’s not true. In Russia is pro-family propaganda but young people doesn’t want to give birth because 1. cost of living 2. long work hours 3. It’s expensive to support a child (food, toys, kindergartens/schools, tutors, etc.) 4. We went through hell with exams and Russian education, when at the Unified State Exam (ЕГЭ) you have to learn and perfectly know 3000 pages for one subject, and you pass at least 3 subjects. Exams every year are divided into official and internal, you need to prepare for both, the official ones are taken in all subjects of the curriculum (except music, art and physical education). All the time from March to May is hell. Passing the Unified State Exam (ЕГЭ) is hell. Many children are in hospitals with depression after, or in ordinary hospitals with cerebral hemorrhage, for example. Depending on how cool the school is, it will be necessary to match the level of education, so there will be tutors every day, and all this is expensive. With an average salary in Russia of $500, people pay 300$ for tutors per month. 4. we have to pay a lot to give our children good education 5. healthcare is good if you have connections with physicians in this hospital. It’s the only way to be sure that you child will be treated well and will be healthy in the end. 6. It is impossible to buy real estate because it is too expensive, and renting a home is also expensive 7. high food prices 8. political situation, people do not want to give birth so that their children become meat. 9. one more time : We get very tired after years of studying. This is followed by overtime at work. Small salary. There is no time or desire to babysit children or play with them. I only have the strength to come and rest and go back to work tomorrow. It’s not about pro-family propaganda, it’s about capitalism and broken economic system.
Indeed. While it might not seem like it if you look at all the prosperity Koreans are living in South Korea can at the moment be classified as a failed state of sorts.
South Korea, despite its relatively small size, relies heavily on imports for various goods and services. Projections indicate a significant population decline over the next 50-70 years, potentially transforming the country in a manner akin to Singapore, with Seoul emerging as the central hub and the rest of the country deserted. Already, Seoul and its surrounding satellite cities house over half of the nation's population. As the population decreases, it's anticipated that the demand for labor in the service and industrial sectors will be increasingly met by foreign workers, with India being a likely source.
Actually, no. Historically, the world had much worse economic conditions, yet the birthrate was much higher. It's because women have too many rights. If we took women's rights away, the birth rate would increase quickly.
Koreans had 7-8 kids back in 1950's and 60's when they were piss poor. the birth rate dropped as their economic situation improved. birth rate is inversely proportional to Feminism. poor countries with low education level have higher birth rate.
When you can't even afford to buy a property, have student debt, still want to sustain a luxurious lifestyles of multiple vacations every year along with wanting to keep up with your friends due to social media and trends by buying designer clothing and brands, marriage and having children becomes the most costly investment which these young people don't want to take responsibility for.
@@aurelian2668 In terms of this subject they really aren't similar at all. The problems in South Korea for this particular subject couldn't be more different. I suspect the OP is probably American and has never even been to South Korea, so she just wouldn't understand at all.
Sometimes, things doesn't make sense. The rich and ultra rich mostly have very minimal children (only child or at most 2 children). Financially, they could afford multiple children but chose to have only child or just 2 children. Meanwhile, families that lives in a dumpster have multiple children
Koreans had 7-8 kids back in 1950's and 60's. the birth rate dropped as their economic situation improved. birth rate is inversely proportional to Feminism.
Lack of access to birth control and sex education. Also for poor families, children are an investment into a potential better life. Children means more hands for labor and a retirement plan.
The main reasons behind this problem is toxic Working culture in south korea and other countries ex Japan,china.componies often not allow female Employees decent Maternity leaves and if she extends leave than she likely to get fired and its difficult for her to find decent pay job and times of skyrocket property Prices,cost of living,costly education for children both partners have to earn money to survive.so if women want kids and really want to raise her but due to these conditions they Give up for child or just extend the motherhood.
Their testing culture in school as well. I've heard stories of kids falling from balconies because of it. And one guy from there even told me, "Yeah.... I never really got to have a normal childhood." So many expectations put on those guys.
@@eksbocks9438 yes that's also another case many couples fear of loosing thier child in highly competative environment on school or colleges that it might cause suicides .so they don't want kids in this world.
@@mruganknayak3216 I agree. Not everyone has the skills to become a doctor, or big executive. In my culture, there's a niche for everyone. So it's not as bad for the students.
There are too many people in Korea; that's the problem. Around 1900, the population of the entire Korea was less than 20M. Now, in South Korea alone, there live over 50M. This makes land very expensive, and that makes house expensive. You work 10's of years and save to buy what, an apartment that is a glorified chicken coop for humans. No yard, no privacy, no peace of mind. Of course the birth rate would drop. But if we don't try to artificially increase the population, it will be naturally reduced to the optimal size, and the land/house prices will drop. If people won't have to work and save for decades to buy an apartment, then they could spend that money on raising children instead. Just let nature take its course. The country WON'T collapse just because the population size becomes half.
I remember how when i was a kid EVERYBODY said how the future was Asia. Look like that future is in nursing homes. Maybe if they (and their governments) were more concerned with families, family life and society instead of growing mega corporations to rule the world (which by the way are mostly in mature or even declining industries, shipbuilding, cars, SONY) they would not be in this predicament. FASTER PLEASE
The problem is that almost no one wants to be completely locked into family life or industrial life. People want balance and the culture doesn't allow for that balance. So if people feel they have to choose, they're gonna choose the option that provides security.
Runaway competition for social status, mainly determined on the basis of materialistic standards. An education system that creates too much pressure on young people, with little of that pressure having actual use beyond sorting people between winners and losers. An unregulated private education market that on top of the psychological pressure on students adds economic pressure on families. Sky-high real state prices. An auhtoritarian and inefficient working culture averse to remote work. And to top it all a deeply misogynistic culture that has resulted in a confrontational and uncompromising radical feminist reaction.
S.Korea, unlike the US and most other countries, actually have the solution to raise the birth rate. And that method is female military conscription. Currently, S.Korea is one of the few countries where ALL men are required to serve the military for 2 yrs. S.Korean gov can easily make it so that all PEOPLE (men and women) are required to serve the military for 2 yrs. And then make another law that says that the women who give birth are exempt from serving the military. That'll jack up the birth rate by a lot. The Korean gov knows this. However, the Korean gov will NOT even bring up such method, because ~70% of swing votes are from female, and if anyone suggests such method, they'll lose almost all of those votes. Winning the election is FAR more important than raising the birth rate.
@@ss-ds2dn Source for what specifically? That all men in Korean are required to serve 2 yrs of military service? I live in Korea. For the past 20 yrs. I know. Also, probably wiki.
S. Koreans basically pushing themselves too hard to the point of no return. We just broke down. Despising laborers' human rights and abusive bosses really damaging productivity and working conditions
there are still a lot of people. there is no issue here. we had a population boom, it's only natural for it to correct itself. dropped in new human production is only detrimental to businesses making money from this and depended on just growth
I wonder, is it really a problem? Will a country in the year 2100 actually need many people? In other words, with technological improvement, won't a country of 2100 be able to prosper with just 25 million people?
Korea's population historically is half the current population. Korea's housing density is incredibly high and all these reports miss this fact. Korea has managed high density better than anyone else but its still requiring them to cement over vital farmland. Gangnam neighborhood in Seoul was a field in the 1950s. Now its all covered in concrete. The boom in population is missed in these reports. The destruction of environment is missing in these reports. You really don't know what you're talking about. Just leave Korea alone. Let Korea and Japan sort their own business out. The Western elites have a clear agenda of open borders and mass immigration. And when the West shows "concerns" this should be seen as threats.
It´s a big difference if you have a 15 million South Korea with a healthy population pyramid OR you have a 50 million South Korea that looses half its population and 3/4 of its workforce in the next 40 years. Because once you reach the demographic collapse, if you not enforce people to have children, you will simply die out. 0,72 births per woman means that the next generation is two thirds!!!! smaller than their parents. This dinosaur style self genocide, never seen in human history and tops even the total collapse eastern Germany and Europe had in the 1990s.
@@thienthien7765 South Korean women's college attendence rate is over 80%. And rather than getting education, they are indoctrinated with Feminism. They become so entitled and narscicistic, that they all get princess complex. and would not marry unless the man can guarantee rich luxurious life. that's why birth rate is so low in South Korea. obviously, this is the fault of their parents.
@@thienthien7765 tbh, for South Korea case, feminism movement is a good thing imo. If they want to change, at least they should look at how womam are being treated in South Korea.
I can't even imagine what the demographics of South Korea will be within a generation from now. TFR below 1 for a prolonged time almost has no precedent in the history of the world. The nearest historic example might be the Jewish community of the Soviet Union which had estimated TFR of around 1.05 for the period between 1949 and 1989 with fertility being around 2 pre-war so it had no momentum. This resulted in a population crash of 45% (from 2.7 to 1.4 million) over those years with an inverted pyramid in 1989 that had only 11% below 15 , 28% retirees above 60 and median age of 48. The only reason it wasn't even crazier is the low life expectancy in pre-collapse USSR of 67 years. That's the future of South Korea in 15 years or so.
Great video but there is a problem in it that I have seem repeatedly in many videos. It is the population projection. At 0.7 children per woman the country will have each generation at around 30% of the size of the previous one. If you roll out the model by 2100 the population will around 10% of the actual population of today (disregarding immigration), something like 5 million and 60% of the them will be over 65 years old. And that only if they do not have a lower birth rate for the future, what is mot likely happening. That is insane, they can go extinct by mid next century.
You are right there...i might add that things can even deteriorate faster the moment many youngsters in SK realize there is no future for them and emigrate making life even tougher for the remaining young people..
What a pity... I think South Korean women are quite attractive and they should continue having children. Oh, well... If they can't afford to raise the children properly in their own country then what's the point. I had heard there were plenty of suicides in So. Korea so there must be too much stress just trying to live a decent life. It sure seems like it would be a nice place to live but outsiders may not see the problems.
That has nothing to do with collapsing birth rate in SK. Women get abused way more in Gulf states, India, African countries yet have way higher birth rates than Korea
@@FreshNFitBoys Yeah, birth rates have nothing to do with gender equality. Finland is said to be the most gender-equal country in the world, but its birth rate is lower than that of Japan.
I think half women Have babies, 0.72, I mean 5 of 10 have babies, three of them have one and the others two and the remain .02 is a woman in 1 of 100 she had three.
0,72 birth rate means, that the next generation is two thirds smaller than their parents generation. Which means: 70% population collapse every 30-40 years.
Idiocracy movie situation unfolding on global scale. Strong negative correlation between average IQ and birth rate by countries. Countries with average IQ100, extremely low birth rates
If the virtual economy is strong enough, it is possible for overpopulation and affluence to exist simultaneously. But it is difficult for the virtual economy to be strong.@@wiandryadiwasistio2062
😂😂for those crying about population drop, I live in a place where the population density is very high, it is not nice , I'd prefer to have lower population around, I believe the living quality will improve...
Care to share where this is?! Yes, less density could be nice, but remember, lower population comes with ripple effects too. The impact on labour, productivity and social security alone is significant!
What's your living quality standard? Because most countries that having decreasing population problem were moaning about their cost of living and their society looks more stressful
I don't understand one thing. If South Korea's population is falling, then the competition for education must also be falling. There is simply a lesser number of children competing for the same places. This means fewer expenses for coaching extra tuition etc.
Things are indeed not good in South Korea. However, if you think it is worse than China, I'd say that you are not aware of the ongoing trends in China.
The China comparison is simply based on the state of the current birth rate. I'm sure there's additional nuance that might make either country seem better/worse...
@@amandagrant4331 Consider how many people died, and also factor in the fact that the authoritarian CCP regime always manages to hide away data that demonstrate the downside of the system.
This isn't about a gender pay gap. There are plenty of countries with hardly any women working who have a much higher birth rate than South Korea. This is about Koreans not understanding what life is all about.
As a European woman who at a very young age decided NOT to have children and has followed that path I can say that the reasons for low amount of kids can be correct in some cases but this is the reasons that are always mentioned and as said the solution is always money. There is only one problem. Among my friends there are people without kids and with one kid and NONE of them mention financial problems as a reason not to have any or to give birth to few kids. Why is it that no one ever ask us why we decide not to have kids? You could pay me a billion € and I still wouldn't have found a child a good idea. I'm 47 now so there will be no child for me and I'm so happy with that decission. My reasons and the reasons every single woman I talk with mention is a hard hateful society that discard people who are not perfect, overpopulation of the planet, enviromental issues, that humans are not valuable individuals but only a resource that you use to earn more money for yourself and so on and on. For me it's unetic to give birth to a child and force it to live in this horrible world.
Mänskligheten är inte ett virus som vissa säger. Mänskligheten är mycket värre än ett virus. Fler borde göra som du. 👍 Jag vill inte skada någon men om alla slutade skaffa barn så skulle problemet vara ur världen inom hundra år.
Yeah. Modern society failed as a society. As far I have seen in my life really few individuals can deal with the effects of not forming family. I had one great uncle and one great aunt that did not have children, the aunt got married but did not get any child by choice. They were the "bonna vita". Until they reached retirement age around 55 at that time. Then they brought our family to an endless trouble. They were lucky they had plenty of nephews and nieces, because they had no family support they would probably end up in the streets, or in the goverment nursing home (AKA tasting hell on earth) or being scammed for their pension and living like subhuman in psychopath house. How do I know that? I have been a volunteer in a nursing NGO home for few years, it is true that many of them had stable families and still were put in that place, but it is far more prevalent the ones the did not built a family.
@@WilliamSantos-cv8rr So your thought is that you need to reproduce and force another soul into the world just as a selfish act not to get alone when you are old. Nice idea for starting a family and force anitehr beeing into a evil system (and I hope you can see my sarcasm in the word "nice") .
The rich would never thought that it backfires that regardless how many kids they have or how much they pay people as caregiver would not gurantee their old age been taken care. the looked after each other culture is not cultivated. 🤭
Well thats the big question...everyday its getting harder for couples to raise a child...higher taxes for care..longer working hours because the workforce is shrinking ever faster..increasing housing prices in Seoul...
I have lived in South Korea for 25 years and I see babies everywhere. There is a children’s play area of an apartment complex near my place through some very tall cedar trees. This time of year when the weather is warm I hear children screaming, fighting and playing as normal, healthy children do. The image you are projecting is that there are no children anywhere. My guess is you have never been here but you’re an expert.
How about having your pension paid for by your own children? That means the more children you have, the more pension you get. It would be evil 👿, but it would work. The birth problem would be then also solved. Sorry is this unethical???
Let's assume you work as an executive in a company. There is a female employee who works in the same position as yours. So both of you hold the same position and do the same work for the company. But since you are a male you will be paid higher than the female employee. That difference in the salaries of you and your fellow female colleague is 'gender pay gap'.
@@railfan_neon But if thats the case, isnt it wise to hire more female employees than male as in terms of business financials there is lot of cost savings. On other note I know it is unlawfull to follow such practices, so why these compainies are not penalized for such practices?
@@morf2723 if it's a labour intensive industry then employing women for the job won't be s good idea. And in industries where women workforce with equal capabilities are available there is special provisions needed to accomodate them. Like both way cab service, maternity and period leaves, various legal compliances to protect dignity of female employees.
@@P.90.603 People now a days change their mindsets that marriage is only just an option and not required at all even having kids... The most important today is that making sure you're not running out of resources like money 💯...
@@mrguire5192 Not the problem for everyone because you think for yourself first... Having a family and kids is not for everyone 💯... The citizens doesn't care on declining population... Money and savings wise 💯💵💳🪙...
Did you even watch the video? 2:33 to 2:55 he discusses the cost of living and how expensive it is to raise children. Childcare is extremely expensive.
Capitalism doesn't cause high cost of living, it is government bureaucracy, creating taxes and certain trade policies and rules of where you can have a garden
The issue isn't capitalism it's the fact that they've become secular and also extremely feminist. Feminism is driving South Korean women crazy they are even movements of them pledging not to have babies it's a dysfunctional matriarchy 🗿🚬
S.Korea is declining with the health and medical system. With such politicians and such government the decline is unavoidable. The most productive item in chip-trade is stuck by the USA.
How is it a problem at all? In 2100 we will reach automation in every sector of economy as never before. You don't need that many people, not only that, the housing will become affordable again due to less demand and unemployment rate will be quite low.
And who exactly will build you those machines for automation if your workforce is shrinking? On average 2/3 of public spending in Europe goes towards healthcare and social security for old people. How exactly do you want to invest into new infrastructure that should make this all better, when your available pool of money is shrinking every year, and you have problem to maintain your current one, as more and more workers and taxpayers are converted into retirees? Like what, will you starve old people for 10 years to acquire finances and workforce to build national automated garden which will feed old people? Also housing is already affordable, in all those depopulated regions. You can go there right now. They will literally pay to live there. But no one wants to live there. Since again, there are no people there to maintain infrastructure. Housing isn’t just piece of house. It’s having electricity, which only works when someone maintains it. It’s having roads, that someone has to repair. Having access to shops that need to sell someone, having access to work that has to produce for someone. So desirable housing won’t become cheaper. Quite opposite, everyone will flock to those best spots with functioning infrastructure. So price pressure will be always there as those regions on periphery will depopulate. And unemployment won’t get down. It will go up. Less people every year, less customers every year, naturally why would a company hired someone if they know 5 years from now they will sell less of their product? Hell, why would they keep someone as employee when they know they will sell less? Do you think, there is low unemployment in those regions that are already depopulated? Nope, nobody can find work, because nobody wants to start a business somewhere with only old people who are fewer and fewer every year.
@@stafer3 By 2100, automation will make most jobs obsolete. Increasing population wont solve the issue, you will end up having a lot of retiree and unemployed citizens. They wont be able to contribute to the economy.
@@wellwellwell7563 Again, who will build you those machines for 2100? To automate something, you have to use workforce and money upfront. When you don’t want to do agriculture by hand, you first have to build factory that makes you tractor. When you don’t want to do it by operating tractor, you have to build factory for automated drones that will do it. If you don’t have money and people because you economy is shrinking, because your population is decreasing, you don’t have available resources to expand your infrastructure this way. Every single region in the world that faces population decline, has crumbling infrastructure, they do not automate, they do not resources for that.
There seems to be a lot of young people in Korea. Have you visited Gangnam and Hongdae lately? White dude making this video is not really doing the research, just following the mainstream news.
THE PROBLEM ITS 1 AND ITS SIMPLEM "CAPITALISMO" BUT THE SULUTION IS NOT SO SIMPLE, THE GOVERMENT OVER THER WOULD NEED TO REDUILCE WORKING TIME PER DAY AND PER WEEK, AFTER WOULD NEED TO CREAT JOBS THA DO NOT NEED A VERY FINCE OR FINCE DEGREE, AND AFTER SOME DECADES THE POPULATION WOULD START TO GROW AGAIN., IF YOU NOTICE THE POPULATION THERE START TO DECLINE AFTER THAT COUNTRY DEMENDE MORE OF THERE TIMES OF LIFE TO GIVE THIS TIME TO WORK, THE SAME THING CAN BE SEE IN "JAPAN".
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SK may still have 26 million people by 2100, but 75% may be seniors and their working population may be only 3-4 million most of them working as elderly helpers. What this means is their country’s weak economy may collapse decades before 2100.
South Korea can import a large number of workers from India.
@@amandagrant4331 as if it were a good idea to import population from other places, Unless you do the same thing that rich Muslim countries do, migrant workers are literally slaves with no opportunity to escape from the country, and yet slaves are bad for the economy in the long term
@@amandagrant4331that will ruin the gene pool
@r.c.8268
You are misguided. Just go to the gulf countries and ask the workers themselves where they want to stay there or return to their home countries
@@amandagrant4331
Or from North Korea?
I just came back from living in Korea for a couple years (military family) and just wanted to add two other points you did not address: one is that the culture really only expects one child anyway at max. They are just not used to seeing large families anymore and cannot imagine having multiple children. Similar to China they had encouraged only one child in the past (but not enforced by policy like China). I, with only two small children attracted a lot of attention, but especially if we went out with our friends who had 3 kids, or another one that had 5 kids, the Koreans were blown away that people might have that many kids.
The other major factor is the air pollution. I was in tears on multiple occasions because the air pollution was so bad we couldn't even take the children outside. My youngest (and a friend's child as well) would get a fever the day after really high pollution days. It was awful. We purposely did not have another child while in Korea: we waited until we were back in the States to have our 3rd child because it was so unhealthy. I didn't want a newborn breathing that air.
Thanks for sharing additional lived context! The nuance on the subscioncious limits of no. of kids is great insight. I hope you enjoyed the video?
I forgot to also add that an additional factor would surely be the overall mental health, meaning the stress levels in general are SO high for Koreans. They have the highest suicide rate in the world.
the air pollution is coming over from China, everybody knows this.
but China deny this obvious fact, which can be scientifically proven readily using satellite photos.
and South Korean government is too fearful of China to raise the issue.
The air pollution in Korea is really very serious.
Living in Korea is painful.
@@jogana6909 the pollution comes over from China.
The main theme that keeps being repeated is that cultures that heavily drill their children into becoming perfect members of society, always seem to have the most trouble maintaining their numbers.
Its almost as if cultures like these should stop treating their children like unfeeling machines.
The West as well has declining birth rates? It's just not as extreme as South Korea. Nigeria, the country my native family is from, has a high birth rate, but from interactions with extended family there is a lot of peer pressure to have kids so that isn't necessarily much better. I think a declining global population is actually healthy because we can better sustain a smaller population.
I don't know where you get your information from. Have you ever been to South Korea? Do you know any Korean people? Because you seem to have weird assumptions. I live in South Korea and it seems to me that western people actually treat their children more like machines than Korean people do.
@@Peter-mj6lzAlso the west remedies the low birth rate problem with immigration. South Korea does not
@@Peter-mj6lz It is better to have peer pressure to have kids than peer pressure to not have kids. And you believing a declining global population is actually healthy means you haven't actually listened to the risks of a shrinking and ageing population.
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 Immigration is temporary, and brings a lot of its own issues. Most of the immigrants who come to Western countries are from either less developed countries with very different cultures (usually Islamic culture, which has often shown to be incompatible with the indigenous culture) or are from the working age group. In other words, they are not importing children, and the birth rate doesn't get increased. Never mind the fact that the immigrants can also choose to retire here, which just makes the problem worse since there will only be more retirees to take care of, which will place a greater tax burden on the working age population.
As a Korean who was put up for adoption because of multiple reasons and most where disgusting, I just want to say.....Karma! But thanks for doing it because I'm a Proud American and my big Italian military family of 8 and im #6 of 8 thank you for selling me off to America! 💚😊😆
I was a unwed child, premature and sick "not perfect, and Not a boy! Im not salty these days, it took a lot of growing and anger but im getting over it
@etvow no I see I was salty Past tense but I've realized thank God I was put up for adoption because Korea society and culture, aren't nice to people like me ever! I went to a big school where their was Asian people but I didn't fit into their Crowd, which was mind blowing but Whites. Hispanic and black welcome me more vs my own F.... people it's disgusting that Asian people are racist against their own people! I was just pointing out its Karama they where still doing this in the 90s, I was born in 91, I would of understood if it was way into the past because they didn't know better but 90s oh well my white Italian family loves me
🤣💚😆 the relentless bullying as a child people don't understand people like us, being call unwanted! I've learned Asian people are the most racist people to their own people and I've experiences it first hand! White, black and Hispanic have welcomed me in more than Asian people and that's disgusting and sad,I'll teach my half Asian children to love everyone and if their Asian counterparts won't except them, than that's their loose! Adoptee don't trust people easily and that's my problem to work on, but why should I let my guard down? But I'm working on it if you knew anything about adoption and adoptees and Asian culture then you would understand! I've learned to let it go and it'd hard but my big military Itialian family love me and that's important and I should let my anger for my people go and I have become I've also learned they don't need me, I was better off put up for adoption, and I'm grateful
Sweet. Your parents are lucky to have you! 🎉
wow
Damn. Thats crazy. I have bad experience with koreans too and I didnt even have to visit their country lol.
Inflation, cost of living, cost of home create pressure on PPL not to start a family.
Compared with the land area of South Korea, the population of South Korea is actually quite large.
The competition in Korean society is fierce, and the pressure of people's life is too great.
Inflation is worse in other countries. You can live cheaper if you avoid (expensive areas of) big city centers or better yet continue to live with your parents longer and save up. If a birth rate of 0.72 is not enough to wake up Koreans I believe nothing will.
@@jogana6909 It's all self inflicted. Koreans don't have to participate and they would still live a comfortable live financially compared to much of the world..
@jogana6909if i were a SKyoungster i would leave the country as soon as possible for Canada or Australia..if you stay you will be squeezed by the taxes and workload..
Going to be ironic if North Korea walk down to South Korea just to see there is nobody because people literally oof themselves or get out of the country. Going to be the weirdest unification in the history.
The thing is North Korea has low birth rate problem too
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 North Korea has 25 million with 1.8 fertility. South Korea has 50 million with 0.75. So in two generations if nothing changes (and it can actually get worse) North Korea will have 25*(1.8/2)^2 = 20.25 million while South Korea will have 50*(0.75/2)^2 = 7.3 million
@@Restrocket North Korea’s 1.8 is outdated now. It’s dropped to 1.38
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 Nobody knows how high the birthrate in North Korea really is. The biggest difference is: North Korea will simply FORCE their population to have more kids, while South Korea dies out because they love to be occupied by USRAEL.
@@Restrocketthat doesn’t take into account the fact that North korea has a much lower life expectancy and just more deaths in general. Not to mention, Kim is eating his people’s food while they grind in his labor camps.
The childcare cost thing isnt true anymore, childcare is free for most people - i dont live in korea anymore but my friends there have free childcare to age two. imo, as a korean, the issue is cultural more than economic. People just aren't getting married and marriage is essential to having a child. life for women after marriage is not great, you are expected to give up your career which isnt finanically viable for most couples and a lot of women just don't want to do it.
I agree.
People don't have careers. They have jobs
@@SweetPlain good point, the pursuit of a career often stops people having a family I guess
Not economic? You must be joking pal.
Have you seen the prices for appartments? How much one needs to pay in downpayment for rent?
I could trow at you a bunch of statistical numbers, like household debt, etc. But, you can google that by yourself if interested.
@@nikolaizaicev9297 can you read? i said culture 'more than economic'. I didn't say economic factors don't matter.... reading comprehension.
The solution is to move corporate jobs out of Seoul to second tier cities. Economics must be spread out to cheaper areas to allow cheaper living and more kids.
They probably way too egotistical for that lol
@@magicmarcell at this point they have to swallow their pride and not the semen. Haha
There is much this video doesn't cover: "Hell Joseon", Neo-Confucianism, Chaebols, femcels/incels, the political/cultural/social gender gap, and the total dominance of Seoul over the rest of the country.
It shouldn't be a surprise that South Koreans aren't having kids.
They've done everything they can to make it impossible to get married, have a stable job, and raise a large family.
Financial incentives will never be enough to fix their issues.
If I was Korean I would move somewhere else for work/family. Sometimes you need to let things collapse quickly so that they can build back society in a healthier manner.
Yes but their youth culture also seems very obsessed. I meet young Koreans often and they usually don't really care for anything other than their looks, status and career. Family means nothing to them anymore.
Since low birth rates is happening in almost all developed countries the only solution is bad economic conditions, wars or something else very bad.
In developed countries, bad economic situations and wars plunge birth rates even lower. Once you have a well educated population, those are the things that exactly deter people from having kids. In fact South Korea’s birth rate was slightly over 1 prior to Covid pandemic and the economic downturn that came with it, and after that, it’s dropped to 0.72
As a Korean, I am familiar with this very low birth rate problem. The first reason for this is the concentration of population in the Seoul metropolitan area. There are jobs that can make money properly. That is why half of the population of Korea lives in the metropolitan area. Second, housing prices are too expensive. The average monthly wage is 3.27 million won, but housing prices in the metropolitan area are more than 1 billion won on average, and housing prices in local cities are about 500 million won on average. Third, it does not have children. The reason for not having children is that it costs about 400 million to 500 million won to raise one child. The Korean government is also spending hundreds of trillion won to solve the birth rate, but it has not been solved. Fourth, it does not marry. They do not marry because the housing price is too expensive and it is too expensive to raise a child.
It's the same or worse everywhere. Population decline is not caused by economic reasons. You literally have one of the richest economies in the world. People just don't want sex, marriage or children cause there is too many entertainment and interesting things to do.
The poorest nations have lots of kids, don’t tell me it’s just economics
@@taliaeve969Their children then flee with a boat to Europe, you know?
@@eva3414 no, their adult men flee and leave the women and children behind
@@taliaeve969 Yes. The MANY men are going out to have a better live. Because being poor with many children doesn't work either. Your argument was: "They are poor und have many children, it's not about economy". IT IS about economy,, here and there.
from what i saw when i lived there a bit, the work culture is awful. They have laws that make it hard to fire you and force you overtime after 8 hours, but people who are bosses run the place like the military pretty much and make everyone's lives there miserable. On top of that, the cost of living is bad too. I will say they do have nice parks and you can get most stuff within walking distance in a city. it's just you'll be working all the time so you wont really even get to enjoy that.
They are just not doing it right, and not doing it big enough. Subsidize childcare? Subsidize this and subsidize that? Why not give people cash directly? Why do governments have such big problems giving people cash directly? You want children? You pay for it.
If you are married, the couple receives US$2,000 per month. Every child you have, you receive US$5,000 per month. You have two children? That is US$12,000 per month. Still not enough? Give each couple that has children a nice apartment. And give them free childcare. I bet you anything this kind of spending would reverse the falling birth rate.
The problem is culture. If the culture was pro-family, people would want to have children and government and employers would make it easy to do. This is the problem in the rest of East Asia and in Europe and North America too. Throwing money at the problem won't fix it. You have to change people's beliefs first. That takes a very long time.
religion is pro family. there is your solution
Since it is happening in almost all developed countries the only solution is bad economic conditions, wars or something else very bad.
It doesn't take that long, if influencers started having babies you'd suddenly see their sheep doing the same.
It’s not true. In Russia is pro-family propaganda but young people doesn’t want to give birth because
1. cost of living
2. long work hours
3. It’s expensive to support a child (food, toys, kindergartens/schools, tutors, etc.)
4. We went through hell with exams and Russian education, when at the Unified State Exam (ЕГЭ) you have to learn and perfectly know 3000 pages for one subject, and you pass at least 3 subjects. Exams every year are divided into official and internal, you need to prepare for both, the official ones are taken in all subjects of the curriculum (except music, art and physical education). All the time from March to May is hell. Passing the Unified State Exam (ЕГЭ) is hell. Many children are in hospitals with depression after, or in ordinary hospitals with cerebral hemorrhage, for example. Depending on how cool the school is, it will be necessary to match the level of education, so there will be tutors every day, and all this is expensive. With an average salary in Russia of $500, people pay 300$ for tutors per month.
4. we have to pay a lot to give our children good education
5. healthcare is good if you have connections with physicians in this hospital. It’s the only way to be sure that you child will be treated well and will be healthy in the end.
6. It is impossible to buy real estate because it is too expensive, and renting a home is also expensive
7. high food prices
8. political situation, people do not want to give birth so that their children become meat.
9. one more time :
We get very tired after years of studying. This is followed by overtime at work. Small salary. There is no time or desire to babysit children or play with them. I only have the strength to come and rest and go back to work tomorrow.
It’s not about pro-family propaganda, it’s about capitalism and broken economic system.
Indeed. While it might not seem like it if you look at all the prosperity Koreans are living in South Korea can at the moment be classified as a failed state of sorts.
South Korea, despite its relatively small size, relies heavily on imports for various goods and services. Projections indicate a significant population decline over the next 50-70 years, potentially transforming the country in a manner akin to Singapore, with Seoul emerging as the central hub and the rest of the country deserted. Already, Seoul and its surrounding satellite cities house over half of the nation's population. As the population decreases, it's anticipated that the demand for labor in the service and industrial sectors will be increasingly met by foreign workers, with India being a likely source.
The problem is property is too expensive… build affordable housing and ppl will move out and start having families
Everybody knows the reason....world economy is getting worst....DO NOT INVOLVE CHILDREN FROM THIS HARDSHIP.
Actually, no. Historically, the world had much worse economic conditions, yet the birthrate was much higher.
It's because women have too many rights. If we took women's rights away, the birth rate would increase quickly.
Koreans had 7-8 kids back in 1950's and 60's when they were piss poor. the birth rate dropped as their economic situation improved.
birth rate is inversely proportional to Feminism.
poor countries with low education level have higher birth rate.
Which just makes it worse, then there is an even greater proportion of pensioners to support and elderly to care for, and even less people to do it.
The world's economy has never been better in the history of the world but you like many are too blind to see.
When you can't even afford to buy a property, have student debt, still want to sustain a luxurious lifestyles of multiple vacations every year along with wanting to keep up with your friends due to social media and trends by buying designer clothing and brands, marriage and having children becomes the most costly investment which these young people don't want to take responsibility for.
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Well, this sounds more like America than South Korea...
@@fransmith3255 Both are very similar than you think.
@@aurelian2668 In terms of this subject they really aren't similar at all. The problems in South Korea for this particular subject couldn't be more different. I suspect the OP is probably American and has never even been to South Korea, so she just wouldn't understand at all.
If birth rate in Republic of Korea won't get better in a future, will Democratic Korea's population be bigger than in its Southern neighbour?
As it turns out, North Korea has its own population issues too. Want a video about that?!
@@geopoint_ Yes, that would be interesting
No one ever mentions that South Korean women born in America have a similar fertility rate as those in Korea.
interesting
They are equally brainwashed.
@@alexanderivkin7086sure clown😂😂. Don t hate women cuz they don t take bs from men anymore
One thing is for sure, kpop will go the way of the dinosaur, which is good because that music is unoriginal and absolutely sucks.
true
Sometimes, things doesn't make sense. The rich and ultra rich mostly have very minimal children (only child or at most 2 children). Financially, they could afford multiple children but chose to have only child or just 2 children. Meanwhile, families that lives in a dumpster have multiple children
Koreans had 7-8 kids back in 1950's and 60's. the birth rate dropped as their economic situation improved.
birth rate is inversely proportional to Feminism.
@@davidjacobs8558East asian is very misogynistc, its even a part of their culture and in this modern world, that needs to be changed!
Lack of access to birth control and sex education. Also for poor families, children are an investment into a potential better life. Children means more hands for labor and a retirement plan.
Feminism ? Or is it more how women /!and childen in South Korea are treated like things and not humans. @davidjacobs8558 @@davidjacobs8558
The main reasons behind this problem is toxic Working culture in south korea and other countries ex Japan,china.componies often not allow female Employees decent Maternity leaves and if she extends leave than she likely to get fired and its difficult for her to find decent pay job and times of skyrocket property Prices,cost of living,costly education for children both partners have to earn money to survive.so if women want kids and really want to raise her but due to these conditions they Give up for child or just extend the motherhood.
Their testing culture in school as well.
I've heard stories of kids falling from balconies because of it. And one guy from there even told me, "Yeah.... I never really got to have a normal childhood."
So many expectations put on those guys.
@@eksbocks9438 yes that's also another case many couples fear of loosing thier child in highly competative environment on school or colleges that it might cause suicides .so they don't want kids in this world.
@@eksbocks9438 it's like changing whole toxic work culture or reduce compitition in education needs to understand to solve with this problem.
@@mruganknayak3216 I agree. Not everyone has the skills to become a doctor, or big executive.
In my culture, there's a niche for everyone. So it's not as bad for the students.
There are too many people in Korea; that's the problem. Around 1900, the population of the entire Korea was less than 20M. Now, in South Korea alone, there live over 50M. This makes land very expensive, and that makes house expensive. You work 10's of years and save to buy what, an apartment that is a glorified chicken coop for humans. No yard, no privacy, no peace of mind. Of course the birth rate would drop. But if we don't try to artificially increase the population, it will be naturally reduced to the optimal size, and the land/house prices will drop. If people won't have to work and save for decades to buy an apartment, then they could spend that money on raising children instead. Just let nature take its course. The country WON'T collapse just because the population size becomes half.
All countries where american liberal democracy comes are degrading, falling apart, and society is divided. Very sad, I like korean people😟
yeah just look at the Middle East, North Korea etc. Prospering paradises
@@kornbroetchen99 What are you talking about?
Most of Middle East is rich with few exceptions
It's not liberal and it's not democratic at all
@@suryahadiwinatas2932 most of the Middle East is rich due to natural resources. Economically speaking, that's playing on easy mode
@@lam7499
You have to give them credit tho. They could be another rich oil failure like Nigeria or Venezuela
I remember how when i was a kid EVERYBODY said how the future was Asia. Look like that future is in nursing homes. Maybe if they (and their governments) were more concerned with families, family life and society instead of growing mega corporations to rule the world (which by the way are mostly in mature or even declining industries, shipbuilding, cars, SONY) they would not be in this predicament. FASTER PLEASE
@@P.90.603 Personally I believe (as a USA citizen) we should have only ONE RACE IN THE US: AMERICANS!!!!!
The problem is that almost no one wants to be completely locked into family life or industrial life. People want balance and the culture doesn't allow for that balance. So if people feel they have to choose, they're gonna choose the option that provides security.
Runaway competition for social status, mainly determined on the basis of materialistic standards.
An education system that creates too much pressure on young people, with little of that pressure having actual use beyond sorting people between winners and losers. An unregulated private education market that on top of the psychological pressure on students adds economic pressure on families. Sky-high real state prices. An auhtoritarian and inefficient working culture averse to remote work. And to top it all a deeply misogynistic culture that has resulted in a confrontational and uncompromising radical feminist reaction.
Great content. It has a high production value.
The eggplants are weak and the oysters are not fresh anymore.
Also, I love the videos. Keep them coming!!!
Thanks! That's the plan ;)
S.Korea, unlike the US and most other countries, actually have the solution to raise the birth rate. And that method is female military conscription. Currently, S.Korea is one of the few countries where ALL men are required to serve the military for 2 yrs. S.Korean gov can easily make it so that all PEOPLE (men and women) are required to serve the military for 2 yrs. And then make another law that says that the women who give birth are exempt from serving the military. That'll jack up the birth rate by a lot. The Korean gov knows this.
However, the Korean gov will NOT even bring up such method, because ~70% of swing votes are from female, and if anyone suggests such method, they'll lose almost all of those votes. Winning the election is FAR more important than raising the birth rate.
Source?
@@ss-ds2dn Source for what specifically? That all men in Korean are required to serve 2 yrs of military service? I live in Korea. For the past 20 yrs. I know. Also, probably wiki.
@@michaelsong5555 source that your idea will solve the problem
@@michaelsong5555 source that indicates that female conscription will actually boost birth rates. Male conscription is well known.
@@ss-ds2dn 🤨🤨🤨🤨
North Korea just has to wait and do nothing 😂
They will do exactly that.
Greed is taking its toll. Who knew women would rebel?
S. Koreans basically pushing themselves too hard to the point of no return. We just broke down. Despising laborers' human rights and abusive bosses really damaging productivity and working conditions
Lowest in the country? Lowest isn’t he history of humanity…
I currently live and work in South Korea. The malls are jam packed with strollers. 90% of those strollers have dogs in them, not humans.
You guy's are having Population Collapse?
Very interesting analysis, keep up the good work, sir.
Thanks! Will do. Be sure to subscribe
there are still a lot of people. there is no issue here. we had a population boom, it's only natural for it to correct itself. dropped in new human production is only detrimental to businesses making money from this and depended on just growth
I guess the conflict between north and South Korea will end soon then.
3:27 That's a lie. There is no pay gap between men and women, assuming the relevant factors (job hrs worked, types of jobs, etc) are accounted.
That's part of the problem. Pregnancy/motherhood blows up those "relevant factors"
@@ss-ds2dn I don't understand. Pregnancy/motherhood do not count towards the job market.
@@michaelsong5555 exactly. It's a job with no pay and it literally hinders your ability to get paid elsewhere.
@@ss-ds2dn Then don't be a mother. What's does that have anything to do with what I said? (which is about the nonexistent pay gap)
@@michaelsong5555 a lot of women aren't becoming mothers, that's the whole point of the video lolololol
I wonder, is it really a problem? Will a country in the year 2100 actually need many people? In other words, with technological improvement, won't a country of 2100 be able to prosper with just 25 million people?
Korea's population historically is half the current population. Korea's housing density is incredibly high and all these reports miss this fact. Korea has managed high density better than anyone else but its still requiring them to cement over vital farmland. Gangnam neighborhood in Seoul was a field in the 1950s. Now its all covered in concrete.
The boom in population is missed in these reports. The destruction of environment is missing in these reports. You really don't know what you're talking about.
Just leave Korea alone. Let Korea and Japan sort their own business out. The Western elites have a clear agenda of open borders and mass immigration. And when the West shows "concerns" this should be seen as threats.
leave korea alone? with their products and entertainment galore, penetrating societies around the world?
nope
It´s a big difference if you have a 15 million South Korea with a healthy population pyramid OR you have a 50 million South Korea that looses half its population and 3/4 of its workforce in the next 40 years. Because once you reach the demographic collapse, if you not enforce people to have children, you will simply die out. 0,72 births per woman means that the next generation is two thirds!!!! smaller than their parents. This dinosaur style self genocide, never seen in human history and tops even the total collapse eastern Germany and Europe had in the 1990s.
You have a strange paranoid psychology...maybe seek help
Is not complicated
1. Selfishness
2. Materialism
3. Feminism.
Wtf feminism? Like doesn’t putting capitalism here make more sense?
@@thienthien7765 South Korean women's college attendence rate is over 80%. And rather than getting education, they are indoctrinated with Feminism. They become so entitled and narscicistic, that they all get princess complex.
and would not marry unless the man can guarantee rich luxurious life. that's why birth rate is so low in South Korea.
obviously, this is the fault of their parents.
@@thienthien7765 tbh, for South Korea case, feminism movement is a good thing imo. If they want to change, at least they should look at how womam are being treated in South Korea.
@@thienthien7765
The goals of feminism are great......
.....the actions to achieve them are however a detriment to reproduction in general.
exactly, toxic ideologies hurt society.
I can't even imagine what the demographics of South Korea will be within a generation from now. TFR below 1 for a prolonged time almost has no precedent in the history of the world.
The nearest historic example might be the Jewish community of the Soviet Union which had estimated TFR of around 1.05 for the period between 1949 and 1989 with fertility being around 2 pre-war so it had no momentum. This resulted in a population crash of 45% (from 2.7 to 1.4 million) over those years with an inverted pyramid in 1989 that had only 11% below 15 , 28% retirees above 60 and median age of 48. The only reason it wasn't even crazier is the low life expectancy in pre-collapse USSR of 67 years.
That's the future of South Korea in 15 years or so.
The 1,05 jewish birthrate is a myth, it never happened.
Great video but there is a problem in it that I have seem repeatedly in many videos. It is the population projection. At 0.7 children per woman the country will have each generation at around 30% of the size of the previous one. If you roll out the model by 2100 the population will around 10% of the actual population of today (disregarding immigration), something like 5 million and 60% of the them will be over 65 years old. And that only if they do not have a lower birth rate for the future, what is mot likely happening. That is insane, they can go extinct by mid next century.
You are right there...i might add that things can even deteriorate faster the moment many youngsters in SK realize there is no future for them and emigrate making life even tougher for the remaining young people..
And somehow they still produce the best League of Legends players
Easy to be great at games when you have no social life.
What a pity... I think South Korean women are quite attractive and they should continue having children. Oh, well... If they can't afford to raise the children properly in their own country then what's the point. I had heard there were plenty of suicides in So. Korea so there must be too much stress just trying to live a decent life. It sure seems like it would be a nice place to live but outsiders may not see the problems.
As a Korean woman, this is the result of misogyny
That has nothing to do with collapsing birth rate in SK. Women get abused way more in Gulf states, India, African countries yet have way higher birth rates than Korea
@@FreshNFitBoys
Yeah, birth rates have nothing to do with gender equality.
Finland is said to be the most gender-equal country in the world, but its birth rate is lower than that of Japan.
I hear you. Women take on the burden to care for the young and ill old. It’s not worth the work.
Feminism and USRAEL TERROR OCCUPATION caused this problem!
This is the result of letting women have a say at all lol
OmO x3! That is a scary stat you know!
I think half women Have babies, 0.72, I mean 5 of 10 have babies, three of them have one and the others two and the remain .02 is a woman in 1 of 100 she had three.
Your maths and english don't make sense at all
0,72 birth rate means, that the next generation is two thirds smaller than their parents generation. Which means: 70% population collapse every 30-40 years.
I hope someone will make video on north american countries for their low birth rate..
Highest IQ checks out. Based South Korea o7
Idiocracy movie situation unfolding on global scale. Strong negative correlation between average IQ and birth rate by countries. Countries with average IQ100, extremely low birth rates
Asian are same.
There is no need to divide them. Lol.
either overpopulated but poor or underpopulated but rich. i think there’s no in-between
If the virtual economy is strong enough, it is possible for overpopulation and affluence to exist simultaneously.
But it is difficult for the virtual economy to be strong.@@wiandryadiwasistio2062
It's okay.. they can import korean citizen from the north
Keep ignoring the 4B movement.
Because its small and insignificant, and barely contributes to these problems which have been decades in the making
Good information but you need to get a better mic that is closer to your mouth.
Thanks for the feedback. Will be investing in a new mic 🙌🏾
SK can replace their population with hard working North east indians. North East Indians have good fertility rate.
😂😂for those crying about population drop, I live in a place where the population density is very high, it is not nice , I'd prefer to have lower population around, I believe the living quality will improve...
Sure that's no problem, but when you going to be 65, your social security check will be cut in half, not enough people paying taxes
Just, move.
Care to share where this is?!
Yes, less density could be nice, but remember, lower population comes with ripple effects too. The impact on labour, productivity and social security alone is significant!
What's your living quality standard? Because most countries that having decreasing population problem were moaning about their cost of living and their society looks more stressful
I don't understand one thing. If South Korea's population is falling, then the competition for education must also be falling. There is simply a lesser number of children competing for the same places. This means fewer expenses for coaching extra tuition etc.
half of the street view in this video isnt even korea
Things are indeed not good in South Korea. However, if you think it is worse than China, I'd say that you are not aware of the ongoing trends in China.
The China comparison is simply based on the state of the current birth rate. I'm sure there's additional nuance that might make either country seem better/worse...
In 2023, 9 million people were born in China, and this number is still huge.
@@amandagrant4331 yes, but China population drop last year, and most likely this year too, we are talking about 10 deaths for 9 births
@@amandagrant4331 Consider how many people died, and also factor in the fact that the authoritarian CCP regime always manages to hide away data that demonstrate the downside of the system.
@@amandagrant4331 imagine thinking that data coming out from China is reliable. How naive
Indeed
This isn't about a gender pay gap. There are plenty of countries with hardly any women working who have a much higher birth rate than South Korea. This is about Koreans not understanding what life is all about.
Well ... Root couse is greed from super rich ... Make middle and low income, modern "slave" .. no money no home no child... 😂
After watchinh rotten Mango video on korea latest telegram case, I understand why the low birth rate.
Imagine if in 50 years North Korea takes over South
That's probably North Korea's plan .
They will likely cooperate and open the borders. The whole world is uniting against the West and their endless proxywars
As a European woman who at a very young age decided NOT to have children and has followed that path I can say that the reasons for low amount of kids can be correct in some cases but this is the reasons that are always mentioned and as said the solution is always money. There is only one problem. Among my friends there are people without kids and with one kid and NONE of them mention financial problems as a reason not to have any or to give birth to few kids. Why is it that no one ever ask us why we decide not to have kids? You could pay me a billion € and I still wouldn't have found a child a good idea. I'm 47 now so there will be no child for me and I'm so happy with that decission.
My reasons and the reasons every single woman I talk with mention is a hard hateful society that discard people who are not perfect, overpopulation of the planet, enviromental issues, that humans are not valuable individuals but only a resource that you use to earn more money for yourself and so on and on. For me it's unetic to give birth to a child and force it to live in this horrible world.
Shut up
Shut up Karen
Mänskligheten är inte ett virus som vissa säger. Mänskligheten är mycket värre än ett virus.
Fler borde göra som du. 👍
Jag vill inte skada någon men om alla slutade skaffa barn så skulle problemet vara ur världen inom hundra år.
Yeah. Modern society failed as a society. As far I have seen in my life really few individuals can deal with the effects of not forming family. I had one great uncle and one great aunt that did not have children, the aunt got married but did not get any child by choice. They were the "bonna vita". Until they reached retirement age around 55 at that time. Then they brought our family to an endless trouble. They were lucky they had plenty of nephews and nieces, because they had no family support they would probably end up in the streets, or in the goverment nursing home (AKA tasting hell on earth) or being scammed for their pension and living like subhuman in psychopath house. How do I know that? I have been a volunteer in a nursing NGO home for few years, it is true that many of them had stable families and still were put in that place, but it is far more prevalent the ones the did not built a family.
@@WilliamSantos-cv8rr So your thought is that you need to reproduce and force another soul into the world just as a selfish act not to get alone when you are old. Nice idea for starting a family and force anitehr beeing into a evil system (and I hope you can see my sarcasm in the word "nice")
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The rich would never thought that it backfires that regardless how many kids they have or how much they pay people as caregiver would not gurantee their old age been taken care. the looked after each other culture is not cultivated. 🤭
😂imagine the Government propaganda incoming...
silly to extrapolate to infinity. trends always correct itself (eventually)
But the consequences of those Trends have lasting and overwhelming effects regardless.
Well thats the big question...everyday its getting harder for couples to raise a child...higher taxes for care..longer working hours because the workforce is shrinking ever faster..increasing housing prices in Seoul...
Make a video on India population and death rate and birth rate
Why Taiwan has the lowest birth rate in the world which is only 0.6, even less than South Korea and yet nobody talks about it? I wonder why
Because for America, Taiwan is nothing more than a wall to contain china.
China 😂😂 they can always get people from China. Both are of the same ethnic group.
Because Taiwan is a province of China
I have lived in South Korea for 25 years and I see babies everywhere. There is a children’s play area of an apartment complex near my place through some very tall cedar trees. This time of year when the weather is warm I hear children screaming, fighting and playing as normal, healthy children do. The image you are projecting is that there are no children anywhere. My guess is you have never been here but you’re an expert.
I live where it never rains..but if i look in my backyard it RAINS...you understand what i try to say...
You don't understand statistics
Because has a lower birthrate?
How about having your pension paid for by your own children? That means the more children you have, the more pension you get. It would be evil 👿, but it would work.
The birth problem would be then also solved.
Sorry is this unethical???
North korea: make more babies we can finally take over sk 😅
Can someone please explain to me what the gender pay gap is?
Let's assume you work as an executive in a company. There is a female employee who works in the same position as yours. So both of you hold the same position and do the same work for the company. But since you are a male you will be paid higher than the female employee. That difference in the salaries of you and your fellow female colleague is 'gender pay gap'.
@@railfan_neon But if thats the case, isnt it wise to hire more female employees than male as in terms of business financials there is lot of cost savings.
On other note I know it is unlawfull to follow such practices, so why these compainies are not penalized for such practices?
@@morf2723 if it's a labour intensive industry then employing women for the job won't be s good idea. And in industries where women workforce with equal capabilities are available there is special provisions needed to accomodate them. Like both way cab service, maternity and period leaves, various legal compliances to protect dignity of female employees.
The pay gap does not reduce birth rates, it raises them, so the point is wrong anyway.
Why would people raise a child?? It's very expensive and will just add another burden....
@@P.90.603 People now a days change their mindsets that marriage is only just an option and not required at all even having kids... The most important today is that making sure you're not running out of resources like money 💯...
Money isn’t the only purpose of life unless you learn that your country will continue to disappear
@@mrguire5192 Not the problem for everyone because you think for yourself first... Having a family and kids is not for everyone 💯... The citizens doesn't care on declining population... Money and savings wise 💯💵💳🪙...
@@mrguire5192nah don't care
This is quite shocking that you did not address the COST OF LIVING CRISIS faced by South Koreans. This is how you are misguided by CAPITALISM.
Did you even watch the video?
2:33 to 2:55 he discusses the cost of living and how expensive it is to raise children. Childcare is extremely expensive.
cApItAlIsZmmMMm!!!!!
Capitalism doesn't cause high cost of living, it is government bureaucracy, creating taxes and certain trade policies and rules of where you can have a garden
@@JS-jh4cy This is correct.
The issue isn't capitalism it's the fact that they've become secular and also extremely feminist.
Feminism is driving South Korean women crazy they are even movements of them pledging not to have babies it's a dysfunctional matriarchy 🗿🚬
S.Korea is declining with the health and medical system. With such politicians and such government
the decline is
unavoidable. The
most productive item in chip-trade is stuck by the USA.
Wow. I watched the Japan video and thought that was bad. But this? WOW. Are there any other countries facing similar population issues as well?
Italy is another one.
China, Singapore, Taiwan all below 1,0
China is rumored to have plummeted below SK but we can't be sure yet
Almost all countries except Africa.
Large part of Europe has similar problems. Even in places where there is a lot of welfare and support for women we are seeing a decline in births.
in my opinion
the women do not want the burden
and the men do not want to demand
voila!
Southamd north just need to come together....and they will be ok.
ur jokin mate?
Kim Jung-un will be v happy to see this
if only motherhood and fatherhood are valid career has its own monthly salary.
well this is impossible anyways 😂😂
How is it a problem at all? In 2100 we will reach automation in every sector of economy as never before. You don't need that many people, not only that, the housing will become affordable again due to less demand and unemployment rate will be quite low.
And who exactly will build you those machines for automation if your workforce is shrinking? On average 2/3 of public spending in Europe goes towards healthcare and social security for old people.
How exactly do you want to invest into new infrastructure that should make this all better, when your available pool of money is shrinking every year, and you have problem to maintain your current one, as more and more workers and taxpayers are converted into retirees?
Like what, will you starve old people for 10 years to acquire finances and workforce to build national automated garden which will feed old people?
Also housing is already affordable, in all those depopulated regions. You can go there right now. They will literally pay to live there. But no one wants to live there. Since again, there are no people there to maintain infrastructure.
Housing isn’t just piece of house. It’s having electricity, which only works when someone maintains it. It’s having roads, that someone has to repair. Having access to shops that need to sell someone, having access to work that has to produce for someone.
So desirable housing won’t become cheaper. Quite opposite, everyone will flock to those best spots with functioning infrastructure. So price pressure will be always there as those regions on periphery will depopulate.
And unemployment won’t get down. It will go up. Less people every year, less customers every year, naturally why would a company hired someone if they know 5 years from now they will sell less of their product? Hell, why would they keep someone as employee when they know they will sell less?
Do you think, there is low unemployment in those regions that are already depopulated? Nope, nobody can find work, because nobody wants to start a business somewhere with only old people who are fewer and fewer every year.
@@stafer3 By 2100, automation will make most jobs obsolete. Increasing population wont solve the issue, you will end up having a lot of retiree and unemployed citizens. They wont be able to contribute to the economy.
@@wellwellwell7563 Again, who will build you those machines for 2100? To automate something, you have to use workforce and money upfront. When you don’t want to do agriculture by hand, you first have to build factory that makes you tractor. When you don’t want to do it by operating tractor, you have to build factory for automated drones that will do it.
If you don’t have money and people because you economy is shrinking, because your population is decreasing, you don’t have available resources to expand your infrastructure this way. Every single region in the world that faces population decline, has crumbling infrastructure, they do not automate, they do not resources for that.
Cost and effect of ultra liberalisation.
just move out to Israel rather than pay bachelor tax. get a tech job work 9hrs 5d
let the government subsidize women all the way to oblivion
Not even for a $1,000,000,000 would I have a child.
yeah. playing with phone is much more fun.
Shame on you
Ban birth control. Problem solved. Lol 😂
Nope. In some countries the decline started happening long before the pill became legal. It's all economic
There seems to be a lot of young people in Korea. Have you visited Gangnam and Hongdae lately? White dude making this video is not really doing the research, just following the mainstream news.
THE PROBLEM ITS 1 AND ITS SIMPLEM "CAPITALISMO" BUT THE SULUTION IS NOT SO SIMPLE, THE GOVERMENT OVER THER WOULD NEED TO REDUILCE WORKING TIME PER DAY AND PER WEEK, AFTER WOULD NEED TO CREAT JOBS THA DO NOT NEED A VERY FINCE OR FINCE DEGREE, AND AFTER SOME DECADES THE POPULATION WOULD START TO GROW AGAIN., IF YOU NOTICE THE POPULATION THERE START TO DECLINE AFTER THAT COUNTRY DEMENDE MORE OF THERE TIMES OF LIFE TO GIVE THIS TIME TO WORK, THE SAME THING CAN BE SEE IN "JAPAN".
Now there are no doctors to receive those babies
Pls accept 50 mln africans and arabs😂😂😂😂😂
talks about south korea. slides some videos of kabukichou Japan.😂
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