Henry Was A Better Premier League Player Than Ronaldo Claims AFTV's Robbie | Agree To Disagree
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- We're putting football rivalries head to head in the ultimate debate show. In this episode Robbie Lyle (The don of Arsenal Fan TV) goes head to head with legendary Man United fan Andy Tate.
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No words needed 👑🐐 Cristiano the greatest of all time! Very lucky to have him in the Premier League the hardest and most physically demanding league in the World as some others prefer playing in the farmers French League.. 😂😂
Viva Feckin Ronaldo baby! 😈❤️
H ok
Arguing who is better out of Arteta and Solsjkaer is like 2 bald men fighting over a comb
Alright mate. No need to get personal. These guys are doing the best they can.
@@TheCurrykiev 😂
excellent analogy
@Jordan Laird cause his hair is perfecto
@Jordan Laird he took over a team that was better than man utds when ole took over yet has finsihed 8th twice and ole finished 3rd and 2nd. Read the facts how can arteta be better when he has taken arsenal backwards 5 years and ole has us (or should have us) in a title challenge. Also you can't use money as an excuse because in the same time arteta has spent more than ole (their first 2 seasons). I'm so happy arsenal fans think arteta is a good manager cuz you guys wont ever get near a league title with him in charge.
I swear Arsene Wenger 'almost signed XI' would win the UCL , premier league, EFL cup , FA cup , world cup and the Euros
you really have to swear 🤣
They could've won the Olympics, Wimbledon, NFL, NBA, WWE, UFC
And the copa america
And all in the same year
Yh but they didn’t did they
That saka greenwood question aged like wine
I think saka won that arguement then
@@mrrandomgames95 has saka been to prison, no right so greenwood is clear😂😂
@@lakshbalchandani6285 waffler
Greenwood is finished....
@@mrrandomgames95 better player is greenwood. even if hes in jail
Scary what’s come of greenwood, so many people had hopes, they even tried to defend him. He is a cancer, not to just the game, but to people, and I’m glad he’s being ousted for the monster he is.
So true man honestly can’t believe it still, but so glad the girl got videos and pictures bc I don’t think anyone would’ve believed her
@Greengrass green lol
I aint siding with Greenwood, and if it is true what he done then fuck him. But he is innocent until proven 100% guilty.
@Greengrass green he just wasn’t though
@@evansmith9947 especially when you consider how corrupt football and top clubs are. Without any strong evidence they absolutely would’ve tried to brush it under the carpet.
I’m sure Andy is a nice guy, but I couldn’t speak to him for more than an hour. His voice registers in different frequencies I swear😂
😂😂😭😭
Proper manc
@@tordskalasknacke5035 He reminds me of Mersey. Mersey squicky noise is annoying like that.
Manchester accent
Came across as arrogant aswell but then again thats all man utd fans lol
They should’ve saved this for the Man United vs Arsenal game.
Exactly
We’ll see it in a few weeks. UA-cam recommendations will do the rest.
@@TheOriginalEwan they did
I'm watching it now lol
I like how two opposing fans could debate and argue for hours upon hours about the finer details of the game, players (past and present) and the history but when it comes down to talking about preserving the integrity of their clubs and football in general against their American owners they are in complete agreement.
This right here.
I'm not even a football fan but I genuinely enjoy listening to two beloved fans of their teams debate over (as you put it perfectly) 'the finer details of the game'. I watch and I think to myself "HOW do they remember all of it??!"
Against American owners but they'll gladly take the middle eastern one they only care about who gives money to the club. It has nothing to do with heritage or whatever which is fine by me but don't pretend like you care about who the owners are as long as they give the money.
One of the best episodes yet from LADbible. Neither of them was talking shit and neither were deluded like a few we've seen before. Loads of respect between these two as well. Really enjoyed this and good work!
True. KG should never represent Man U again.
Man united fan was deluded for most.😂
Robbie is definitely a bit deluded. Way more teams have had invincible seasons than have won won the treble. Milan have did it twice, as have Benfica and Porto. Juventus, Ajax, Celtic and Rangers have did it once. There are tons more too. Hell, Arsenal aren't even the first English team to have had an unbeaten season. Preston won the first ever league season unbeaten.
Winning a treble is way more impressive.
The manc is deluded
Henry is the best premier League player of all time. Ronaldo is the greatest player to have played in the premier League
nah irwin
You're contradicting yourself. You are saying the same thing about both of them.
@@Idcanymore510 no hes quite literally saying that Henry did better in the prem but ronaldo is better overall but when he was not in the prem
And Suarez has the best individual season in PL history.
Spot on
As a United fan, I have to agree Thiery Henry was at his best in the Premier League. CR7 hit his best at Real Madrid. So Henry is definitely the better "Premier League Player"
He still won a Ballon D'or and a European Cup whilst at United. Henry won neither.
@@aaroncarter9753 robbed of a ballon dor and Ronaldo had a better squad around him, clearly you didn’t watch Henry in his prime in the prem he was untouchable
@@jamiedavis692 while henry doesnt had a better squad so called invincibles squad.. xD
@@hakimkamaruddin2276 Around then yeah but we all know the players who have won trophies as a team like the CL get favoured more. That’s why you have Jorginho up for it now but he’s clearly not the best in the world.
@@jamiedavis692 I'm in my mid 40s, I watched him live many times. Great player. CR in 2008 was better still imo.
Robbie was right Greenwood wont be better than Saka he now plays for Prison fc
u sound as if thats a downgrade
Saka vs greenwood today 😬😅
Realistically most people in this comment section arguing about Ronaldo and Henry probably weren’t alive to watch them play week in and week out. 😂
True. Anyone under 26/7 commenting is lying to have seen them play, especially Henry.
Luckily there’s something called statistics and highlights which always new people to speak on and watch players of the past. Take away the skill flair and free kicks and speak of just productivity salah is clear of ronaldo in the prem. same can be said of many more
They go by fifa ratings
I was alive. Saw both of their debuts and I feel CR7 was better.
@@bharathsf LOL AT YOU!!! HENRY WAS KING!! Little boy!
Coming from a Chelsea fan since 1995... Henry is the greatest ever Premier League player. No debate. No other player struck fear to opponents like him. Not one.
I would say Alan shearer an im a man u fan
Greatest premier league player? Or the best player to play in the premier league?
Because you said so? Bahahaha ronaldo won everything whilst at united including ballon d’or. Nuff said
@@Joeonline26 Wes Brown won 5 Premier League titles and 2 Champions League. By your logic, that puts him above the likes of Jaap Stam, John Terry, Tony Adams, Kompany, etc.
That's how stupid the medals argument is.
@@Joeonline26 Anyone who actually knows football knows that Henry deserved it over Nedved and Shevchenko who won it. He was clearly the best player on the planet for at least 2 years. Even Michael Owen won it, does that make him better than Shearer?
“ we won trophies” the argument in every question for United
Well yea that's the whole point of football lmaooo why do you play football? That's right to win. You play it to win championships just like every other sport. You don't play it to see who goes unbeaten longer or who finishes second in most finals. You play to win.
@@xsirius9117 Yeah well, if it were an individual sport we could really judge it that way.
But it's team sport and if your'e on the best team you have better chances to win, that doesn't mean you as an individual are the best in your position in the league.
@@akeemguy7331 I'm talking about team not players there's a reason manchesters treble is way better than the invincible run. Man U run trophies. Like half the games of the invincibles were draws. What do you mean if it were an individual sport? You literally play to win trophies. What's the point of going unbeaten if you don't win Jack shit? Trophies > records and it's not even a debate.
@@xsirius9117 FACTS,
I thought you meant players. Was going to say your logic would mean Ryan Giggs is top dog.
That's the name of the game! innit?👹
Well, he was right about saka having more of a career than Greenwood 👀
Robbie is one of the few Arsenalsupporters i really like. He's not overly one-eyed... and he's rational. The opposite of the rest of the AFTV-muppets.
there are some rational fans on aftv to balance out the clowns
they don’t represent Arsenal fans they try and act stupid and entertaining for views
There’s quite a few rational people on there. Turkish, Curtis, Pippa, James. Even the most known and synonymous with AFTV who have lost their heads like DT and Lee Judges are rational.
@@jgooner894 cecil, dan and graham as well
@@jgooner894 I DO NOT consider DT to be in any way ration i any sense of the word. So i disagree with you there. Lee got his moments but he's still not even close to Robbie. Have not seen enough of Pippa to base an opinion on it. I would not consider Turkish to be rational either. Specially not around Arsenal.
The United and Arsenal rivalry back then was stuff off legend. I actually feel so privileged that a portion of my childhood was during that time. It was one those rivalries that wasn’t just between the players and the managers it was also between the fans, like as a United fan you just couldn’t stand an Arsenal fan, like Arsenal fans were vermin to you. It was pure hatred. It was something that you’ll never see again.
I remember my first Chelsea Jersey with auto glass on the front and flo on the back. Them days we couldn't imagine what we have done but Henry is the greatest premier player ever. Speed class skill attitude. Greatest
Mine was fly emirates
The United fans accent is straight out of Kevin and Perry
Ronaldo was amazing for a good 3 seasons but Henry was something else in the prem.
Henry was in his peak. Ronaldo was still a rising star
The question is “ronaldo is the best player in premier league history” suggesting ronaldo is the best player to touch the premier league which is a fact
@@jomcueto980 exactly and that’s why Henry was better in the prem
07-08 Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player the Premier League has haver seen ! He was impeccable, untouchable and out of this world !
@@banntaylor7323 Henry 2003/04
So much of this aged so bad 💀
greenwood question changes now
As a united i love ronnie but henry was robbed of a ballon d'or. That season he was just unplayable and hit heights which no PL player has hit. Shame he couldn't win the UCL
Um he won the UCL back in 2009 unless u meant didn’t win the UCL with Arsenal then yeah ur right
you are a wise guy
He won it with Barca
@@edislettuce4218 yeh thats what i meant
He wasn't robbed, you kids just focus on stats. In which case sterling is infinitely better than Zidane but he's not is he
He could easily have won, but nedved was also a worthy winner
Arsenal fan here , but comparing Saka and Greenwood doesnt make sense theyre too different Greenwood is a goal scorer Saka is a playmaker I hope they both get far tbh
Smith rowe getting left out is criminal not just saka vs greenwood its saka vs greenwood vs smith rowe vs saka
@@ethanpetersen7318 greenwood then Saka then esr I would say
saka then greenwood then esr
There’s a reason Southgate selects Saka over Greenwood
@@Dercudez mate I wouldn’t take anything from Southgates selections 😂 he chose Saka to take a pen over Grealish for a start
Great interview we need this link up again
Vieira was a baller, he could run with the ball, pass, tackle, etc. Keane could only pass and tackle. Have u ever seen Roy Keane running pass 3, 4 players with the ball?
I gotta say as an Arsenal fan - from a personal battle pov Keane probably won 6 out of 10 battles against Vieira, he always raised his game when they played each other. But whenever I watched Keane vs Gerrard he rarely won that battle against the Liverpool man. and oddly enough Vieira would often win the battle with Gerrard. Always thought this was very strange! I think Vieira had a better all round game than Keane, certainly technically superior, but Keano in his prime was a baller, in that 99 season he was sensational. However Gerrard reached a higher level than both players and for me is still the best CM to have ever played in the PL.
You ever see Vieira drag his team to a treble?
@@gladiatorscoops the difference was Vieira played ball and arsenal back then often outplayed man u even when united got the results. Keane was a dirty player, Vieira was a player who knew when to play dirty. As a player though Vieira was way better than Keane. Keane was very efficient and effective. Agree with Vieira vs Gerrard and Kean vs Gerrard.
@@electricalstuff259 if you're talking team. Man u were better winners than arsenal. Playing football wise, arsenal was way ahead. Player for player, I think its even or slightly in arsenal balance. But united got the job done, arsenal were very wasteful and it cost them in da league and champions league. I think united defended better as a team also.
@@electricalstuff259 there are many better players than Keane that never won a treble. Which luck was on united side when they won the 99 treble, could have easily ended that season trophy less.
I just miss the old days. Two genuinely big teams, Arsenal and United rivalry was electric. That's the rivalry that made the Premier league the biggest league in the world. Not this souless plastic city kak we have to live through now.
If only I could like this comment more than once. GGMU
nostalgia merchant
No one gives a fuck about arsenal and man united, stop being a nostalgia merchant. Football was shite back then. Arsenal where good for two seasons and still did fuck all in Europe and I never want to see tory united win anything ever again!
@@Robert-ks5ix tory united? LMFAO
Stop this nostalgia....Liverpool vs City is a great fixture (coming from an Everton fan)
As a Liverpool fan, Thierry Henry was, is and will remain the greatest ever Premier League player. The fact we're trying to debate about that is baffling to me.
its a fair debate Henry was sick i remember how he dismantles real madrid in the Champions league but Ronaldo WON the champions league and the BallonDor which in that time was very hard
@@mrrahin10 ronaldo really only came into his own that year to be honest. Then he left right? Henry definitely didnt have as good a team as Ronaldo though
@@Brandon-cv9uh he didn't have a good team as Ro Aldo? Wtf did u smoke when u wrote this ? That Arsenal team was the BEST in the Europe from 2001-2004 ffs don't make lies
@@Brandon-cv9uh shutup
To be honest Henry should have won Ballon D Or 2004. I mean Shevchenko was good but Henry for me was just better a striker
nice to see both of them having a proper calm discussion.
Im a Liverpool fan but i used to love watching henry play and he definitely is so far the best premier league player that has ever played in the prem
Yeah, I'll go with that, he was joyful to watch. Why did he go and hand ball against Ireland? Before that, he was the model premiership player and that just killed any respect most people had for him. I was in a pub the other week and he came on the ttv and someone shouted our, 'handball' and a conversation about it started.
Henry was a better player than Ronaldo...in the premiership....Leeds fans! No question!
because he spent longer in the premier league. if ronaldo spent a couple more seasons at united, it wouldn't even be a question. ronaldos peak season at united in the 2007/8 season is also greater than henry's peak. ronaldo is the greatest player thats every played in the premier league, henry is the most accomplished individually career-wise in the premier league sure.
@@alimalek559 his peak isn’t better mate
@@traxks7294 i said his "peak season" was better at united. you think henry had a better single season than ronaldo's 2007/8 season with 40 plus goals on the left wing at 23 years old, being the driving most significant force behind united's premier league and champions league double and winning the ballon d'or, cementing himself as the best player in the world at that moment. boom.
@@alimalek559 redundant comment....ifs and buts...he didnt play as long as Henry and thats that! Henry was a better premier league player than Ronaldo! End of buddy!
@@alimalek559 yh i don’t believe his peak at man united is as goods as Henry’s peak in the premier league,, I think Ronaldo is the best player to play in the prem but I do not think his peak season is a great as Henry’s
Premier league: Henry..
Robbie is right Cristiano had his best years in Madrid shirt
So because your great in one league that’s means you can’t be great in another?
@@civildiscourse7626 he was great in both but if ur talking about when they were in the premier league it’s gotta be Henry.
@@ufjghdjrgs185 I agree ronaldo has 3 world class years in the prem Henry had 8
@@brandonharris9769 Henry wasn’t world class from the very beginning
@@ufjghdjrgs185 I mean ronaldo won player of the season 2x like Henry but also he was crowned best player of the year- the only prem player to do so…
I’d love to see this revisited with the same people. Not even because of the Greenwood topic but the Ole stuff too and etc
King Henry a legend! He showed us you don’t have to win the ballon d’or to be the best in the world! What a players he was 👑
well, back when TH14 was conquering PL, there were at least 20 other players almost on the same level...... Ronaldo and Messi never had that kinda competition in last 10 years...... that's why Henry never won Ballon dor...... he had to compete with fucking Ronaldinho, Zidane, Figo, Kaka, Nistelrooy, Makelele, Buffon etc....... INSANE competition
arguing with the don is digging your grave in the thames, it was nice to know andy
Robbie saying only one team has done Invincible season in Europe:
Preston 1888-89
Celtic 1897-98
Rangers 1898-99
Steaua Bucharest 1987-89
AC Milan 1991-92
Rosenberg 2010
Juventus 2011-12
Dinamo Zagreb 2014-15
Celtic 2016-17
Rangers 2020-21
Might as well have added the Sunday league teams in that list. 😴
@@Amar-nx3bf
Half those teams have more champions leagues than Arsenal 😶
@@Amar-nx3bf you definitely started watching football in the last year if you don't know half those clubs lad
he meant in the premier league
@@Amar-nx3bf stick to watching cricket. India got spanked by Pakistan
Ngl I would like to see mark goldbridge on these
I would rather be treble winners than invincible nothing beats winning the European Cup the greatest trophy in club football.
fax
Well it's all arsenal fans have so id rather that
Glad Robbie is here to keep it down to earth
Can you imagine Andy v Ty!
Oh God!!! 🤣🤦🏾♂️
Coming back to this we can clearly see Saka has turned out to be a much better player than greenwood. Again ‘focus’
I think I know the answer to the saka greenwood question 🙋🏾♂️
I’m so glad I randomly found this! Let’s go Gunners!
Coming from a United fan Not going to hate, Henry was unbelievable.
Wow congrats on such an observation...He still didn't win anything significant at his time wasted at Banter F.C
@B_Yugi_B Many clubs have gone the entire season without defeat.
@@mariogmajner6549 well that’s just not true. In the English league , only Preston north end and Arsenal have gone a full season unbeaten. Not to mention Preston north end only had to play 22 games whilst arsenal went through a whole 38 game season unbeaten that stretched to 49 in the next season. Don’t talk about other leagues here, here we’re discussing the prem/English league. So may I ask where did you pull these ‘ many clubs ‘ from ? Your ass ?
@@TheSeanzachary Arsenal never achieved back to back titles and too many draws in that unbeaten season.
@@mariogmajner6549 too many draws ? Making the achievement sound so easy. If it was really easy why hasn’t any other team been able to do it since then ?
Mentioning Greenwood hits different
Robbie got the job on the technicality of a legend who recommended him
You are nobody you are a fool, goodnight
@@bristolcitysource4777 *You are nothin', you are a fool and you're a waste of time, goodnight
@@Arsenal8999 Barca style of play
16:10 there was NOTHING like the Arsenal-Manunited rivalry of that era. I live in Kenya and did some work in South Africa and Tanzania and I can tell you the passion that game ignited stopped this part of the world dead for 90+ game minutes . if you weren't watching the game, you could stand in the middle of the completely empty streets and the screems from any bar/home would alert you as to who was gaining the upper hand. The rivalries between respective fans was so super intense they would damn near tear friendships and families apart. There has been nothing like that since.
Yeah I loved it and miss it, we hated each other back then.
@@plo8450 still do now, but I think the players just don’t get it as much
I still hate arsenal because of this rivalry
As a United fan..it's facts that thiery Henry is the best player the PL has ever seen
Not even close. Unless you're going to start calling Henry the greatest ever I'd probably stop talking about Henry being the best
No
Agree but talking peak performance Ronaldo and Suarez best I've seen.
I'm a Man U fan through thick and thin, but Henry is one of my favorite strikers of all time, and fully agree the best player to play in the EPL.
Diffently,
Through thick n thin ? Yeah, like all them "reds" that was going to Stockport County when OGS n Ragnick was there cos the atmosphere at United home games is like a funeral, and more to the point, because they were wank and wasn't winning? Fickle as fuck pal, you lot only sing when your winning !!!!
The mason question didn t age quite well😂😂
"Could he manage the egos, Ronaldo cavani pogba."
Mate ole can't even handle just pogba, how you think he's dealing with Ronaldo 😂
i totally disagree with this. when mou was in charge, you constantly hear about pogba this and pogba that, now you dont, there aren't anymore leaks as in the mou era, he binned out many not good enough players, the Sanchez, fellaini, you g, etc. so imo he has handled the egos very well
LadBible please keep this guy to represent United for any future videos. The one we had to speak for us in the liverpool video was so deluded, Andy knows his stuff
Even though he belives Ronaldo was coming to United via a taxi driver who was in Menorca lol Andy loves his club but he's heavily biased and deluded.
@@curtisfawcett well you’re gonna be bayist for the team you support aren’t you
From a Chelsea fan, Henry is without a doubt the best player to ever grace the premier league, Ronaldo is goated, BUT he really hit his prime at Madrid
Robbie said no one else was invincible.
10 years before Arsenal went invincible. AC Milan went 58 games unbeaten and had an invincible season in 1993.
Benfica also did this twice (73 and 77). Funnily enough in 77 they came 2nd. Don't know if any club in the world has managed that. Invincible witouth winning it.
@@TheRagnawar that tells you that trophies are more important.
That’s what it’s all about.
@@road3557 absolutely
juve 2012
@@Row1and Juve didn’t go unbeaten?
The majority of the United treble team went on to win another two titles in 2000 and 2001 and they were miles ahead of everyone else!
3 trophies over an invincible season. All day, everyday. People forget that team that won it wasn't as special as Wenger's Invincibles. There were 6 first-team players straight out of the academy and no marquee signings. Cantona was long gone, it was pure graft and heaps of talent.
Just no. Nobody else has been invincible. I'll take the feat considered impossible over a feat multiple times accomplished.
@@omarhasan03 Celtic 2016-17 unbeaten all season, AC Milan under Capello 91-92 whole season unbeaten and didn’t lose again until 93, Juve under Conte 2011-12 went unbeaten all season, Ajax 94-96 didn’t lose a game for two seasons. Get your facts right. There have been Invincible teams across Europe. No English team has done the modern treble and no English team has gone unbeaten in the modern era. I’d still take 3 trophies over one.
@@sharanjanjikhel02 I obviously meant in the prem. And not all trophies are created equal. A trophy considered impossible to achieve means more than a feat that others have accomplished.
@@omarhasan03 There’s plenty of niche things that no team has done, but being unique doesn’t automatically make something more impressive.
Many English teams have come close to being invincible (Chelsea 04, Liverpool 18/19, etc.) but late season they rest their players and focus on other competitions because they know that winning more trophies is better than some record.
@@randombutspecific Your opening premise is correct. But what make this situation different is that what makes that Arsenal side unique ACTUALLY IS IMPRESSIVE.
This isn't really up for debate in my mind. If someone came to me, as a liverpool fan, and said, "you can win the treble or you could be the first and only prem team to ever go unbeaten" I'm taking the invincible season because I feel like the other accomplishment, which brings more silverware, is simply not as prestigious and can be accomplished at a later time. I'm not sure any club will ever do what Arsenal did, in my lifetime, but it is possible for Arsenalto have one amazing season and win the treble. Let's not forget that the invincible run was while Man U was unreal. The competition was thick.
Henry is the best the league has seen. I'm old enough to have seen and remember both Henry and Ronaldo from the start of their premier league careers .. Henry was fucking out of this world. Ronaldo was class but Henry was the crem de la crem
Gotta say as a hammers fan. Robbie is right here man. I used to love watching henry as a young kid. He is probably the reason allot of people support arsenal today 🤣
Robbies bang on, Henry is the goat of the PL era. Fair enough Ronaldo reached a higher level when he went to Real but you've got to go on while they actually played/are playing in the prem.
In the same premier league ,CR7 won the Champions League and Ballon’Dor
@@dayoofere8513 two trophy’s that have nothing to with with the old
Ronaldo has had a better career overall but within the scope of the premier league it has to be Henry.
100% Henry had his peak in the prem and got the top scorer four times, Ronaldo was young and raw when he joined man u had two amazing seasons 07 - 09 but then went onto become a better player at real.
3× PL
1× UCL
1× Ballon D'or
Multiple individual awards.
Multiple red carpet premieres.
Do I need to go on?
@@Godotlv5000 I'm just going on what I saw at the time, henry had his peak here whereas Ronaldo did so in La Liga.
henry should have won world player of the year in 2004
@@cweston9440 I agree, I was always a lot more worried about my team playing peak Henry than I was when we faced Ronaldo 06-09
@@Godotlv5000 Henry deserved a ballon d or in either 2003 or 2004 imo. So that ballon d or dosent count for me. Ronaldo was at the early stages of his career at United. Peak Henry is better than young Ronaldo
guess we know who is better between saka and greenwood now
Just watch any prem defender who played against both Henry and ronaldo and they all answer the same when asked “who was the player you didn’t look forward to face the most?” I have never heard them say ronaldo over Henry. Ronaldo went on to become the better player outside of prem but when it comes to the prem no player brought as much fear to the opposition as Henry did
Tate is so salty . Ronaldo was a great player when he left united but all his accolades we know him for was achieved in Spain 😂
Youre right but he won many awards at united his first ballon d'or champions leagues many other titles. We don't only know him for spain
Casual answer. Ronaldo perfected his craft at Utd. He was the best player in the world in his last season there and had already won everything
Na he’s definitely remembered for his multiple pl titles and his first ucl and balon dor. His best spell was in madrid tho
@@blackextention06 Messi was the best player in the world when Ronaldo left united.
Do some research before spouting bollocks. Won everything at united including ballon d’or ffs
I think that Rob is light-years ahead of Andy when it comes to using your brain to make thoughtful statements. I'm sure Andy is a great bloke to drink a beer with but I'm barely half-way in and I'm going insane listening to him. Just for full disclosure, I support none of these shithouse teams.
What are you, a Chelsea fan?
Robbie is just another deluded arsenal fan. Nothing more nothing less. Don't go by teenager's opinions who call him ohh don robbie in his channel 🤣
@@ChromesMubambe Nope, wanna guess again?
@@MemphisGoar I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say. Waste of time.
@Carl Johnson You just assume answers to the questions you don't ask. I support one club, my local club that - wait for it - does not even play in England. However, some of the best memories I have are SAF's United or Wenger's Arsenal, you know why? Because I'm a fan of football. It must be hard to be as stupid as you look in todays world.
Would love to see more of these Celtic Rangers, United City, Arsenal Spurs, United Liverpool.
The saka vs greenwood and ole vs arteta debates really took sharp turns, didn’t they 😂
Actually love these 2. Andys accent is immense🤣
I'm just smiling during this whole thing. Love this.
I like how civilized these guys are in contrary to the guys in the United-Liverpool debate that was talking in each others mouths all the time
Missed Celtic from that treble winners as well as later being undefeated domestically. Ronald I did do best work in la liga, Henry great player best ever pl player so far for me as a neutral I go for Alan Shearer. Won title but scored so many goals for teams not that fancied for titles. Could imagine how many he would have scored for Man United but I appreciate fact he went and played for his boyhood hero’s and took the coveted number 9 shirt
Was this filmed after the 5-0 liverpool game or before? :D
Very good question
Before
Man Utd fan: The treble winning team is better because trophies matter
Also Man Utd fan: Arteta is not better than Ole because a trophy doesn't matter, it's about progression.
Fickle much.
an FA cup lad, come on? top 4 > fa cup
Artetas way better than ole how you gonna compare ole to a fa cup community shield winner when ole has ronaldo and a great team and he still can't beat liverpool
@@yashuro1234 top 4 isn't a trophy lmao
@@yashuro1234 In terms of prize money and route to Champions League, that's true. But that's not the argument the Man Utd fan made in the video. He highlighted the importance of trophies for one question when it suited him, then contradicted himself on the next question when it suited him.
Kid do you know whats treble 3 biggest trophy in 1 season
Greenwood saka debate didn't age well
Preston North End are the first English team to go unbeaten in a league campaign back in the 1888/89 season where they went unbeaten in the league and the FA Cup and achieved the double
Arsenal aren’t the only team to go a league season without a loss. They are the only Premier League side to do so and United are the only Premier League team to win “the treble”
Yes, there are teams that have done so, but in recent history, out of the top 5 leagues, the only teams to have done so were juventus in a weak Serie A and A.C. Milan in the early 90s in a 34 game season.
When arsenal did it, there was far tougher opposition in a far more competitive league. Chelsea just had their financial takeover, Liverpool were a year away from winning the champions league, and united were in their most dominant era.
Prime barca under pep, Bayern Munich, PSG, the galacticos, and every other dominant team of their time have failed to achieve this feat.
Going unbeaten in the Premier League is a completely different achievement and I don't think we will see for a very long time, if every again. The money and level in the lower Premier league teams higher than ever and that skill level will only increase.
@@DontMentionMyName11 I don't know about far more competitive. Arsenal trashing a 4 th place Everton 7-0 at Highbury, proves the league wasn't as competitive as some including yourself may of thought.
@@DontMentionMyName11 Arsenal done it when Chelsea still weren't a top side, Liverpool were poor and Utd had there star defender out for half the season
@@DontMentionMyName11 I just stated a fact mate, no details needed behind it. Although the premier league in the early 2000s was nowhere near as competitive as it is today.
@@DontMentionMyName11 well Arsenal went invincible in a weaker EPL no? And honestly the UCL is the greatest trophy in club competition that gets recognition not just in a country but globally
Genuinely thought this was just a really solid debate, some things I agreed with Rob something's I agreed with Andy. Both had interesting points.
Definitely one of the better debates on this channel, the other ones always have one person who’s unbearable to listen to
This is class.
Casual football fan from the other side of the globe. Love arsenal fan TV.
13:40 well there’s only one right answer to this question now
Such a classic United fan response to anything they don't have an answer for, the derisive laugh
Excalty mate he knows Henry was the best
Henry single handedly destroyed Real Madrid the Galaticos and make Arsenal the only English team beat Real Madrid at Bernabeu As Arsenal fan i miss Arsenal Man Utd rivalry best English football era ever
How many Champions Leagues did Henry win at Arsenal?
I would say Forest Villa rivalry was better.
Greenwood no more more like force wood
The greenwood v saka question hasn’t aged well
I’m a Spurs fan and I still agree Henry is the best Premier League player of all time.
Bergkamp is better than Henry.
Nope bergkamp was great but Henry better overall player
@@mariogmajner6549 No he’s not lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@abeljames4702 Bergkamp won the Double with Arsenal before Henry signed.
"Where's Andy Tate?!?!" - Claude
This was a great video!
Well the greenwood part aged well
I’d take a treble over drawing 12 times whether unbeaten or not. 😂
Agreed
Ronaldo never won the treble with United
Still waiting for a team to go unbeaten. 12 draws or not.
@@wannabKsi Nobody has won THE treble apart from Man united in English football history. Preston North End where the first Invincible team in English football.
@@killcam109 There were 12 teams in the league when preston went unbeaten.
Of course Henry was better in the Prem. Most people judge Ronaldo's United tenure on that season where he scored 31 league goals. Great achievement but take that away and a lot of players have better records than him in the Prem. That was the only season where he got more than twenty in the league for United. And he only got seven assists that year so 38 total goal contributions. Henry's best year at Arsenal he got 24 goals and 20 assists in the league so that blows Ronaldo's super season out of the water. To this day no one has gotten more assists in the Prem. The only other two occasions where Ronaldo scored more than ten league goals in a PL season was when he got seventeen in 06/07 and eighteen in 08/09. How can you compare that to Henry? He has a better super season than the one Ronaldo had and aside from that you can take one of Henry's worst years and it's still better than Ronaldo's second or third best years. and if you compare their forth and fifth best Prem seasons then it starts to get a bit embarrassing.
Say it louder for the people in the back.
lol Henry never won as many individual honours or a Balon d'Or like Ronaldo did, compare both of their best seasons respectively and Ronaldo comes out on top. Henry had the longevity but he didn't win three prems in a row or win as many individual honours.
@@delzsupreme United fans should stop bringing up the epl. This is about the best “player” in the pl. the overall pl trophy is a team trophy. So if u look at individual performances aka their seasons, well the guy has already mentioned why Henry was better
@@nicodiangelo7051 you have to perform in the league to win the Balon d’Or and all those individual awards though.
@@delzsupreme and Henry did perform well in the league… the invincible exist mate. And I’m a neutral. I’m a Liverpool fan just stating facts
The thumbnail looks like Fury and Wilder meeting up in 20 years time to look back at their rivalry... 🤣🤣🤣
I think Robbie has won the saka greenwood debate 😆
He also said maguire was a brilliant player
FUN FACT; N'Golo Kante won 2 prems in a row with 2 different teams then won the world cup in the same year. What an underrated player 🔥
He's not underrated at all. Every fan knows he's one of the best in the world.
@@natebaxter9551 True. I just don't think he's mentioned enough in these kind of conversations, maybe because he's not a flair player but he deserves more credit than he gets ⚓
@@MONSTASTREETMUSIC most fans are all about goals. But more knowledgeable ones see the greatness of guys like Kante and Casamiro.
No he didn’t
Im a chelsea fan and HENRY is the best striker ever to play in the prem!
Tbh it’s fucking close
Henry
Agüero
Shearer
They are all legendary
@@ufjghdjrgs185 alan isnt anywhere near these two especially Henry.
@@-CLUMSYDIYer- top scorer in the premier league, yeah he’s the worst of the 3 but he’s still absolutely amazing
@@ufjghdjrgs185 when i think of the best, yes goals are one thing but i look also at the way help the team. Alan was a selfish person on and of the pitch.
@@ufjghdjrgs185 And Eric Cantona ^^
That Mason Greenwood one aged well.
Best days of football for me when this rivalry peaked, Henry is goated in premier league but so is CR7 so it’s tough
No Henry is the best epl player
It's got to be Henry CR7 had his years at Madrid he had some great seasons for United and if he continued at United he would probably surpass him but he didn't so he ain't
As a united fan, Dennis bergkamp was the best pl player ever. I've never seen a player like him, his vision, intelligence and ability to elevate everyone around him including Henry. There's no Henry without Dennis.
I agree
Smart player had vision ive never seen since good call
Typical Manc struggling to construct the word "player" together.😂
Manchester United fan here as well! To me Henry is probably the best PL player, I mean his speed, strength and technique were off the charts imo... I do respect that Bergkamp was great as well, I do think had Ronaldo stayed longer he'd be my choice, definitely an interesting debate
"Mason Greenwood will have a better career than Saka"
That one didnt age quite so well...
Im a Manchester United fan, and i agree with Andy Tate on most things on here, but I have to say that Michael Arteta is a better manager than Ole for sure. He is better tactically and has a much worse squad bit has still managed to win a trophy unlike Ole. Ole was a great footballer, but isnt good enough to win titles with United, we need a manager who will take us to the next level.
🤣 winning the FA Cup don't make your good manager 🤣
Pair of history teams
I think we can all agree now that Saka will probably go further that Greenwood. The Don is never wrong
hahha
@@cupra2Jock.I’m willing to bet anything on ir
Not only is the don never wrong, but he never had been