Delegate Carl Jackson asks a good question of ESA lobbyist
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Carl Jackson asked the ESA lobbyist a good question. He is open to digging in and not accepting this whole rubbish that we're asking for source code(WHICH WE'RE NOT) at face value. I appreciate his due diligence. msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual...
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If I was Carl I would ask, “Why do I need the source code or an authorized repair only tool to replace the dvd drive on my Xbox?”
It would have hit him directly in the industry and forced him to answer.
Xbox one's DVD drive is cryptographically signed to a particular Xbox one. They do this as part of their anti cheat and anti-piracy mechanisms. ( Xbox 360 DVD drive exploit led to piracy on it.) In this particular case a third party would need some sort of cryptographic access in order to replace the DVD drive, which in turn would weaken Xbox ones anti-piracy technology.
However, I think this is more of a case of the manufacturers need to make their hardware more repair friendly.
Why do I need the code to change my sealed battery in my Controller?
@@Taklsdjw093 so i.e why I included the authorized repair only tool bit. lol
@@INeedAttentionEXE
No I was agreeing, a user should be able to repair their own stuff. The Xbox one is made repair hostel. I think Microsoft should have made in such a way a user could replace their own DVD drive.
For instance, sell the DVD drives that can be keyed based on serial or something. The current state is disappointing.
Better still why would you need code to replace an xbox dvd drive if parts like the laser were available making repair possible?
Why do i need a code to change a battery?
Lobbyist: . . .
Silence intensifies
Lobbyist: yes.
Ayyyy i got a heart from louis rossman
Evade! Though in fairness, you probably want the phone lobbyist on that example. Console manufacturers do have a good reason for tamper-proofing their hardware, but not one that they want to admit to do publicly: It stops people from running unauthorised software, thus ensuring that the manufacturer can take their slice of the revenue for every game sold.
@@vylbird8014 Is "proofing" possible? When there is a will there's a way. Just look at anti-piracy software, works out great, really ..
That question ended the lobbyist career.
I think this question summarises RTR.
*WHY* do you use code as a barrier so people will have to incriminate themselves to be able to do their job?
As Google infamously said, learn to code, pleb.
@@Chrisisplays this does not answer his question nor provide a useful criticism.
@@kneesnap1041 Unless you want some robust conversations, I do not understand your point.
@@Chrisisplays I'm always welcome to a robust conversation. My point was your comment was rude and unwarranted.
@@kneesnap1041 It wasn't meant as serious and if you are butthurt, I am sorry that you hurt your butt.
Big oof. They thought they could get him with the "i hope they don't know shit about tech" tactic.
Honestly it doesn't sound like he knows a lot about tech, and that's what made it great. He doesn't know, so he asked the lobbyist the question to clarify, and he had nothing...
@@rossmanngroup Shame it seems like the exception rather than the rule.
@@rossmanngroup that's exactly what they should be doing. asking a ton rather than taking stuff they say for granted.
and if you focus on CT Wilson at 0:48 to 1:04 he seems to have found a new fold in his brain. Good for him. Has to suck, being so stagnant in meetings that compress so much information in such a short time. You never really know where you are, unless you get experts to tell you where you are.
The ESA guy only needs to provide a binary blob that can be flashed onto (new) hardware.
There is no source code needed. Consoles are safe.
Does the bill say only the binary or does it say source code? I thought they mostly say source code, which I agree is too much.
@@CatzRuleZWorld fair enough, but let's ask the question: is it really too much?
from a software development point of view, using obscurity as a security measure is equivalent to having no security at all. sure, you can use additionnal ways of ensuring security, such as certificates and encryption, but those tools are tried and trusted, and source code knowledge has very little benefit without the keys, whereas obscurity time and time again is proven to fail as a security measure.
from the opposite direction, there are many many companies, start-ups and giants, who open-source their programs with no issue and even gain massive security benefits in the way of public reviews and pull requests.
now, of course i'm sure you can tell that i am biased, so to contrast, i have to admit that source code would be of little use for repair in itself, although it is often used to give a second life to old hardware.
@@Themoonisachees THIS
ESA lobbyist: *intense sweating*
0:35 Are you joking??? People have been jailbreaking, hacking, homebrewing for ages and they never had your so called "source code". Wii most popularly had the homebrew channel and I remember even before then, you could go to a 3rd party shop outside the US and by an Xbox original with 150 titles pre installed on it's hard drive. Just a little bit of research already destroys his argument.
Thing is most if not nearly all legislators nor aides or anyone even remotley related to lawmaking do NO research. Even if a quick google search would be enough to answer most of questions.
Source code is for games NOT firmware on consoles.
Btw firmware inst encrypted. Go to playstatiom support and you can download latest firmware when the hdd dies.
Authentication of games is a WHOLE other beast.
Ps.: efuses took care of jailbreaking very nicely😈
Jail breaking is easy compared to modifying firmware. Jail breaking an OS only requires access to root. Jail breaking is exporting security falls to gain access to root. An OS works at a high level and is virtually impossible to render unhackable. While firmware, can be encrypted and etched into hardware unlike an OS. An OS works on top of firmware and can be reinstalled at anytime. firmware tell the OS what devices are installed and how to interface with these devices.
An example of firmware would be your BIOS. I dare you to try and figure out how that works. The files which companies will give you are not readable by a text editor and requires an assembler (or dis-assembler I cannot remember which) to even edit the file. The output of assembler is a bunch of goto statements and switches. If you are trying to modify your BIOS, then you are loading a custom OS or trying to over clock a motherboard which does not allow for over clocking. By the way, if edit the wrong thing, then you cloud brick your processor or mother board.
@@schumerthd exactly what I mean. These guys are trying to say that right to repair will breach their ability to fight piracy but it's already taking place and without any kind of actual hardware modification.
I mean you don't need the source code but iOS kernel is based on an open sourced XNU and BSD not to mention that some exploits were found in the webkit engine on tons of other platforms.I think forcing to release the source code is a bit much even a binary in some cases.The main idea is to give some option, do it in small steps,you don't want to give out the binary or src? ,fine, give us a reasonably priced flashed chip that can be paired with the existing hardware that's it no binary no source.this bill is about a right to repair not a right to research.
Good question, unfortunately to a person that could hide behind the fact that they don't represent apple.
Jeff P You have to give a specific example to their industry it seems.
Is this guy trembling already while talking? I mean someone has to pick that up and prod him senseless and ask all the hard questions of "what code exactly is needed" and "but what about claims of X that say that no code is required?". Man. They're visibly desperate. They need to be pushed a lot harder back.
The shaking in that guy's voice after he was asked the question was extremely telling. That's when the argument fell apart.
Well then why do I need a code to replace a fan in my video game console!
Trade secrets on the airflow pressure coefficients, duh! /s
Generally the fan can be replaced. The parts they lock down are the mainboard and all components thereof, and all the storage devices. That is, the parts most likely to fail.
I remember sticking a 640GB? hard drive in my PS3 replacing it's original 40GB hard drive, not long after I purchased it, since I wasn't spending the extra £££'s getting the 60GB model just for 20GB more space and a couple of extra USB ports? Plus it's the UK, so the 60GB model didn't have Hardware based PS2 backwards compatibility anyway.
Ah poor dude, he asked a good question but he asked the wrong question to the person who was speaking. He should have said why do I need to code to replace a resistor or ribbon cable.
He would have just gotten a slightly different bullshit answer, I'd guess something along the lines of:
"Well, sir, I'm not an engineer, I'm just here as a representative, so that's a question you'd have to ask an engineer or software developer"
And more to the point: there are tons of videogame consoles that require batteries
No, he did ask a good question as it made the lobbyist stumble and deflect to someone else.
No, he asked the right question. Highlighting the fact that RTR is not talking about complicated systems, just battery replacement and the like.
@@Jimmeh_B its often just simple replacements thats needed
@@BlueBD yeah, but those cases aren't the point of the whole enterprise are they?
"Okay, let's try it this way. If I spill water in my PS4 and it fries the graphics chip, why would a repair shop need the 'code' to the console in order to replace the graphics chip?"
Even better just put it in the bill that we are not asking for source code. Then they can quote the bill as lack of justification for their fear. You don't want us to see the source code, then OK we will specifically say we don't want it.
It really depends on how the graphic chip was made. The graphic chip is either a processor, FPGA, or ASIC. A processor or ASIC is a easy repair and requires no code. A FPGA uses flash to program itself and if there is water damge then the flash would require re-flashing. Depending on the flash, the process to re-flash might require access through a special connector or could be flash by a PC. The information which would be placed into flash is proprietary and can be reversed engineered.
@@schumerthd Sony it Microsoft or whomever could offer a service to reflash what is needed for a nominal fee, securing any source code.
Professional Liars
I'd love to attend one of these hearings in Colorado. If I had been put in that situation, I would have demonstrated my phone with a quick-replace battery to drive home the stupidity of the idea that you need anything involving software to get it to work
wow his voice wavered around answering THAT one lol
wow, it looks like someone is not taking that bs what they are saying :D
That's a good talking point, why is there a barrier in place that requires me to go only to the manufacturer of the product i need fixed. It really speaks to the need for right to repair
Such a simple question, asked so innocently, was so beautiful in its scope
Nice shutdown by Jackson but I doubt source code is given out to console repair shops in the first place. I think shops don't need the 50gb source code as much as testing sw and schematics, much like other consumer electronics. I wonder if lobbyist from these subset industries like consoles or tablets etc are trying to convince lawmakers of little exceptions they have to make for their devices, as a way to slow and stop the whole rtr bill.
If apple doesnt want their code stuff to get out, maybe dont inject code into your damned battery.
No No No If they don’t inject code then everybody can change the battery - and we can’t have that now can we😏
But I need to code the battery or else it doesn't work!! Not my precious else if statements!
OMG, this is unbelievable !
Outstanding
Is this "talking like a nervous wreck" -technique a strategy of lobbyist to show that their feelings have been hurt?
I think he's just a nervous wreck.
You don't need code they can provide bit streams and binaries to do some more lower level repairs that require flashing of chips .
he should have also asked,
" you know all current consoles are hacked"
These lobbyist don’t know anything about hardware or software. Software engineers would eat these lobbyists alive. What about making a law that manufacturers have to pay a larger fine for each ton of e-waste that isn't recycled or brought back to raw materials. The Manufacturers and the right to repair movement could work together in cutting down e-waste. I hate the idea of these computers going into 3rd world countries. I hate the that the materials are burned and they release toxic fumes in the air, which then also goes into the drinking water, the plants and the animals. How many diseases, how many plants, how many animals and humans have to continue to suffer because of this greed. If you guys haven't already bring videos of computer recycling west africa. ua-cam.com/video/JXDrIvShZKU/v-deo.html
Yes we would
jonny777bike Work as Embedded Engineer and we i would like to give the source code to our products the thing is we don’t even sell for end customers. You likely can’t even read the code on there we for example have a self unpacking program that uses processor extensions to unpack the binary. (We had it at one point so that you couldn’t even transfer the binary to another device as it wouldn’t work there)
@Иван Снежков
Are you talking about "android open-source"[1] or "the android that people are familiar with"[2] ?
They are (annoyingly) NOT the same thing.
[2] is made from [1] and is allowed to be closed-off per the apache license.
Biggest problem is if employee works under a right-to-work agreement meaning either party can terminate employment for any reason.
OMFG, it doesn't matter if it's a phone or a console, the question still stands. Why would we need source code to replace a battery, or a broken chip, why would we need source code to replace an HDMI port, or a PSU.
Should have asked about replacing the DVD drive in an XBox 360. Same deal there. You need to rewrite the firmware to make it run on your particular console.
Ah dang I was hoping he pulled the old "How am I compromising code by changing out the fan on my xbox" question like the Maine legislator did
Oooooh, that quiver in his voice after the question is an indication of instantaneous loose bowels...poor guy
Gasp!. The committees need to be informed or trained in knowing the difference between "source code" and "diagnostics/ repair tools" . This would allow them to call BS every time they hear the words "source code". I like the guy that asked about batteries in his iPhone. Whilst miss timed the question was on point to the topic.
Great use of !=
Who wants to bet that 99.99999% of politicians have no idea what that means.
samething with consoles too you can't change the disc reader in a PS4 without remarring it with the motherboard and you can't remarry the disc reader to the motherboard without sony's software.
Same in the XBox, and 360. It's a standard precaution, because without that measure it would be possible for someone to make a little board with an FPGA on that pretends to be a CD drive, but really loads images from an SD card. It wouldn't let people homebrew, but it would let them play pirated games.
Had to think about that for a minute, eh? 🤔 😅
The logical followup would be: If Apple makes it so that you actually *do* need the code to swap the battery (or screen, whatever), isn't that on them? If such a bill is passed and they don't want their oh-so-precious source code to get out there, can't they still have that? Just make the battery replaceable without code. They chose to link the hardware to the software, so why should they get to get their cake and eat it, too?
I just had an inner laught for one minute 😂
They are trying to use unrelated things that definitely are intellectual property to protect that which is not.
It's not about getting all the source code to let users fix bugs in the code, or about getting the exact design of the internals of custom chips. It's about changing a hecking cable that the manufacturer don't care enough about anyway, without getting alerts, having the other hardware combat it like it's a virus, or having legal issues strewn about like they were sprinkles.
What in the world are they doing..
You don't need source code for electronics repairs. Just schematics (and boardview). And nowadays a tool, program, that lets you bind/pair the replacement parts with the main system so it knows it is now working with a valid part. Of course they could also just stop using bound parts so they wouldn't need to supply a binding program....
And most parts that die don't have any real specific coding in them. And if those do die, hopefully the OEM will be so kind as to do that fix. Much like how a doctor forwards a patient to another doctor for treatment that the first can't perform, but only diagnose...
HELL YEA!
I hope that these laws will come, that as an owner you can and may have the product repaired, I myself work as a plumber. also with central heating boilers. say closely that the factory says that I cannot or should not repair your boiler. even if it is only a flow sensor or overcooking protection. people are out in the cold !!!! or have no hot water. fix that mess
Same question, why need code to replace any part. It r and r then reset and restart
You do not need the full source code to change a battery.
You only need enough code to tell the device two things, there is a new battery, the type of battery.
You only need that in equipment designed to fail, causing the consumer to either pay the ' authorised repair " location to erase all data on the device and possibly return only the original case to the consumer, complete with refurbished internals that will have the same underlying issue alternatively, similar to what Volkswagon did, force the device to an authorised dealership tomdownload all data and restart a counter to start the process over again.
This is just hilarious
Hoping that the right to repair passes.
I would love it but sadly it won't.. Apple and their irk just grease too many palms with their money. Some people would happily throw their (and our) rights out of the window just to get more money. damn corrupt scumbags.
You don't need a code to fix a console unless the manufacturer programs it to stop working after a repair/replaced part.
Which all of them do. Specifically the optical drive - none of the major consoles allow that to be replaced without a lot of work to hack the anti-tamper measures, and it's one of the most common failures.
As a software developer I found this to be hillarious and sad at the same time. Why dont they have IT consultants present at these meetings to call people out on their bullshit?
Even the guy that asked the question thinks that source code is like some sort of magic password needed to change a battery.
Fair play to him for at least trying query the lobbyist, but it shows a clear lack to technical knowledge across the board.
CT Wilson in the back rocking back and forth like a child because all of this is going over his head. Louis' other video shows that.
In the last few seconds, that video console guy sounded like he was about to cry like a little kid.
"That mean man is asking good questions that I do not like to answer WHAAAAAAA"
It's kinda messed up that manufacturers are trying to confuse people into thinking that right to repair is about piracy and creating security issues. Honestly why does a tractor need to have an os that rejects hardware repairs because they don't come from the manufacturers.
You can't even change the harddrive of the XBOX 1. Serialized to the motherboard and can't be replaced.
playstation you can, but its sata 2 so the usb 3 port to external hard drive is actually a bit faster, and they made it possible to boot off that
I love the joke in the thumbnail
SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I DON'T NEED SOFTWARE WHEN THE PROBLEM IS A PHYSICAL COMPONENT.
But you need firmware to interface with hardware. Last time I checked, firmware was a type of code like am OS.
Can the diagnostic software be locked in such a way that you can't see source code but able to reset error codes like in a car?
yea, that's called standardized diagnostic interface, electronics have somewhat common interface like JTAG and I2C. in car it's ODB2
1:11- So....
Software Developer here.
You can PROVIDE code, FREELY, that does NOT compromise security.
If your ENTIRE security model is broken, by access to code (NOT security keys), then your security is SHIT.
Seriously.
You can HIDE data values in code, or black them out/replace them with dummy values, AND provide code needed to repair a device.
The lobbyist is asking about THIS model:
eg: The xbox/xbox360 have a "chain of trust" where the DVD drive, CPU, GPU, RAM, all are "paired" to ensure none is modified from what came from the factory, and that each is "certified" to work securely.
In the past, whenever there was a security check from the drive, to the CPU, or from CPU to RAM, data lines could be tapped into and data values copied/sniffed to break security or modify data to bypass DRM.
Well....
The problem was that the disc drive could be modified to send data (with a mod chip) into these data lines, and give an "ok" signal.
This was the NAIVE approach.
Modern security works like this:
You establish a secret and public key.
You use a diffy-hellman key exchange to derive a "shared" private key to secure communication, WITHOUT exposing either secret keys of either party (this is how HTTPS/SSL works).
You use this secure channel to talk and communicate data, and validate responses to ensure data is valid each time.
This can be done with video game consoles. You can "stamp" a chip to have a secret key it uses to talk to the other parts of the motherboard (and allow it to be updated later via software), and then each chip establishes a secure channel to the other chips. Then, when one is repaired, the system can be aware, and give a warning / diagnostic, or re-pair everything (wiping certain secure data and forcing the user to re-download, or re-authenticate on their account).
Yes, eventually, somebody might get the new private key used, if an update happens, but then your security model is gone, and you shouldn't rely on pure data lines to communicate.
To stop blatant duplication of discs, and playing pirated games, you can rely on blu-ray like encryption, and prevent computers from making byte copies / reading the disc normally. After that, you can't really validate the physical presence if a disc/cartridge, as any "hardware checks" can really be bypassed.
But... here's the thing....
With modern games, and always online, you don't "really" care about single-player cheaters, only multiplayer. For single-player, you just need to make the DRM last 2 weeks, and this can be done via software for detecting the data on the disc/memory. You can even provide certain chips for the drive, at a reasonable cost, to RE-PAIR and certify that the drive is relatively safe and easy to repair.
For multiplayer cheaters, you can detect them with heuristics, and hashes of random files / data sent as well as "honey-pots" on the server, to catch cheaters.
At the end of the day, they truly just want to stop the problem of "we have a physical game / digital copy on physical hardware, and want to ensure it's a genuine copy, that's not a burned / pirated copy."
Which, for the consumer, too bad if that means we can't repair our console. PC already has "free reign" over hardware, and consoles need to be treated the exact same in terms of my right to repair them.
Why do I need source code to replace cooling fan on my PS4's cpu?
Also very important, access to code doesn't allow you to run anything you want on hardware. Take for example some bootloader locked phones without an option to unlock the phone. Even if you know all the software, unless there is a flaw in the software you won't be able to run custom software without opening the device and directly tampering with the hardware. Just to be fair, it can definitely speed up finding mistakes in the security, but yeah, security through obscurity isn't pointless... but it isn't going to help too much either 😅 . His argument just didn't make any sense on any level.
It just occurs to me... literally no one outside of our boy Carl is paying any attention to this conversation... is it like that everywhere?
It's like this everywhere, even outside the US. You can see these public servants just stare at their phone the whole time, not listening to the opposition, not taking seriously the things they don't like. The whole thing is fucked and I don't think enough citizens know about this and the lobbyists that undermine their rights.
In all honesty, we DO deserve the source code if and when it is required to repair the hardware. The simple fix is to not design the hardware with software lockouts. They did that deliberately because copyright is worshipped as a god in USA circles (and the lawmakers of most countries) and merely invoking its name is enough to quell completely unrelated issues.
Deserve? Try that crap with windows or any other proprietary system, NO one Deserves any source code you didn't pay for it! You leased the right to USE the software NOT own it. You bought the hardware and own it and it was under warranty, anything outside the warranty isn't covered, if you want to repair it you have to pay the price if it is an option if not you are screwed, you should have done your homework and bought a better product. But you are correct with the simple fix. And as far as copyright being king you dam right it is, Apple, Samsung spent money inventing a chip and producing it (or paying someone to produce it) why in the hell should they give anyone the right to make it and sell it without their permission. Stop buying from companies that do this shesh it's not that hard to figure it out, and stop whining about it.
In future, if I want to change a battery of my TV remote control, I will need the manufacturer's permission, source code, toilet paper and virgin blood...
Is there a link to the actual proposed bill? It seems like people are arguing for two completely different things and I can’t tell if it’s because the bill actually says something about source code or if someone is just making a completely irrelevant argument.
Oh snap...
I can't think of a real third party repair needs access to any code at all
Got you!!!! Hahaha....im sure the ganr console industry is doing not for their batteries but probably for their power button for example
Lobbyists: we need source code to repair hardware.
Me, a developer: yes plz repair my computer the GPU is not working NVidia here is the source code for CSGO it doesn't work.
Me, a developer: use amd GPUs they're actually more accepting to the open source community and are fine with linux
We need the windows 10 source code to change batteries.
Don't question it. Just give it out. Promise we won't fix all the horrible problems in it and make everyone's lives better.
What a weaselly answer! Made me laugh.
Midas pays 600$ yearly for blueprints and car specs from all car manufacturers which is required to be available for third party repair like Midas. I can lookup any car, any year any motor, any trim and find how much oil you need based on the time of year and so on. I can get access to part numbers for piston rings and see the entire diagram of the engine completely apart.
Why is this not law for all repairable things that have 3rd part repair?
It's ofcourse meant as a more general point here. You don't need the source code to change a battery on you phone, and neither do you need it to change parts out on your PS4 (or atleast, you shouldn't). And software isn't magic. If is a software issue, it can be fixed, always.
Why would you need code to replace a game console's power supply or a game controller's thumb stick?
Stores that repair consoles also sell refurbished systems and used games. Why would they screw themselves by offering services to disable DRM systems?
Just the fact that shit like this is even a question that needs to be asked out loud is enough evidence for me that civilization is failing.
Decoded answer "you don't"
There is IMHO an easy solution to this, write in the bill right to repair is NOT interested in access to source code, as that is not part of what is needed for repairing. Put that in the bill.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
I think the video game industry representative got scared.
That moment when you have absolutely NO IDEA on how to answer a question. I would have paid good money to see that persons face at that point.
Lobbyist to colleague:: I don't have to out run the bear, I just have to out run you.
LOL @ THUMBNAIL LOL
for anyone unaccustomed to computer code MANY languages use "!" to mean "NOT" so thumbnail is saying
*source code NOT EQUAL TO repair*
but, video games are made for phones as well. whats to stop nintendo from doing this on the switch?
Point...lobbyists have no idea what they are talking about
Smart battery (+$20 for RGB)
id love to see apple answer that without saying SAFEY DANGER
What a clown that ESA lobbyist!!! Money money money money!
BUSTED! Why do I need a code to change the DVD/BD drive, the hard drive or any other component? Same logic still applies. ZIF and other sockets were built for this purpose.
This lobbyists LCD, data and cpu pins all shorted at once when that gentlemen asked that question twice.
Using people's ignorance to make them fear. On the basis of an fallacious argument that has no basis. OMG
The stupid part, getting schematics, or diagnostic tools, doesn't help you break encryption, or let you play any game on any console. And if that is what your purpose is, to copy games, there are plenty of hacking tools out there to do such things already. None of those hacking tools (or most) wouldn't help you diagnose a charging port problem, or add a new touch sensor. The hardware companies/lobbies are using fearmongering tactics to keep money in their own pockets. (One would think Politicians would easily see through that! :-) )
Because its a commercial grade battery of course, that's why you need a code.
What's a non commercial grade battery?
What I got from this...., Why do I need a code to replace a battery, "I represent Video game console industry, You would have to ask apple".
"Then why are you fucking here then, we are talking about REPAIRING devices, not copying games".
Having said which, Consoles are hacked eventually.
Nice question but then who pays more wins, right❓
So to swap a ps fan needs source code. If that was the case, the emulator community is gonna be thankful for all the code leaks.
To everyone asking why you might need access to source code, see my explanation below. I am in favor of right to repair, I just wanted to explain how the source code might be required.
TLDR: I worked with anti tamper features, they require updating firmware and the OS if a anti tamper feature is triggered.
Anti tamper features can be triggered by opening a phone case. If the feature is triggered a security key is eased from memory and must be reloaded. A technician can reload the key if they knew which firmware and OS are loaded in the phone and have access to the keys. If a unique key is required, at the very least the firmware must be recompiled. The security firmware has a matching key stored inside and has to be changed as well if a new key is added. Changing the firmware updated the checksum and an OS would detect this and lock the OS till the flag is cleared. A technician might even have to edit a security key in the OS as well.
but there's no laptop/ tractor/ phone need this anti tamper thingy right? iirc it just erase current crypto code and generate a new one rendering it useless for the original purpose.
OMG.
He can’t answer so passes the buck. Absolute chicken and probably never so much as put a plug on a lead in his LIFE!
You don't need source code to repair hardware.
The source code should be free awell, but this is a different issue.
Lol... source code. Lololol.
All of those "representatives" are clueless and as such have no business judging this issue, our government system is clearly malicious, incompetent and broken.
Good luck with right to repair, I support this cause but this won't be won through politics, there are a number of other issues of corruption woven together with this one that are preventing consumer rights that not even voting can fix.
We have to take a different route, one I shall not name here.
Get that man another Canada Dry!