"After the Big One: Nuclear War on the Prairies" (1983) Cold War Film
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2022
- A Canadian made-for-television movie - This film deals straightforwardly with the consequences of a nuclear attack for the Canadian Prairies. The Prairies are singled out because of their proximity to huge stockpiles of intercontinental ballistic missiles located in North Dakota. Scenes include a visit to a missile base and to an emergency government bunker in Manitoba. A doctor, a farmer and a civil defence coordinator provide different perspectives on nuclear war. Although the film focuses on one region, it provides a model for people everywhere who would like to know more about their own situation but don't know what questions to ask.
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Sad as it is to say…….the ones that get vaporized in the initial blasts…..will probably be the lucky ones.
Not sad to say at all, really. Having grown up in the late 70's and 80's I well remember the "What would you do if nuclear war came?" talks so many had that usually ended with "Grab the family and head for the mountains/iive off the land" decisions. Me? I wanted to be under the first one that hit, myself. I had no desire to live in a world that was devastated and in which all of my friends and family were dead or would likely die slow, horrible deaths. (Part of that, I will also say, comes from my faith and the confidence I have of a life after this one) There's an interesting interview done of Rod Serling in which he expressed much the same thoughts when asked about his TZ episode "The Shelter."
I sometimes wonder if the words of God have been purposely misrepresented to esure the people never undermine the cowardly tyrants. I believe this world is just too good a gift to be just the throwaway experiment.. Anyway Good luck friend
@@TheDoctor1225 I agree; was born in the middle 1960’s. The last two generations have forgotten about the nightmare of nuclear war. They never watched any of those movies from the 1980’s that scared the hell of of you.
That is what they when the bombs were dropped on Japan
Your right the post nuclear world would be followed be a global famine,disease and complete breakdown of society and infrastructure for many years.
As a child of the 70's and 80's, this was a very real scenario, almost an EXPECTATION, of how our lives would end at the least, or how we would survive at the WORST. Not only did we practice bomb drills at school, but also at home. Bug-out bags were an everyday part of many of peoples lives. Family plans drawn up, each person knowing their precise instructions for the expected bug-out.
Now, here we are. Staring at the possibility of not only World War III, but also terror attacks taking place simultaneously across the World... *Sigh* Here we go, again.😔
Yes rather be prepared and have a fighting chance never give up it’s not over till you let it be over
Did you watch THREADS.... Aired on TV in the UK in 1984...now full movie available on UA-cam...
@@SuckasNeverPlayMe I sure did. That one was even MORE scary in my opinion. I watched it just a few months ago, and the trauma came flooding back like it did in the 80s.
@@gabrielwatson7721 I watched it again two days ago.... I have a nasty feeling about this year. The UK is now and US now talking about bombing Yemen.... And Yemen is allied with Iran.... Great.... It was the middle east that was in Threads as the cause of it too. All my life Threads has been in my mind. I don't know how many times I've seen it, but it's a lot. I have it on dvd. What's really striking in that, and at the time it was aired it's what shocked most people more than the bomb itself, is the way the government would treat us.... You would be shot just for trying to find food to survive... Also how they arrest known "subversives" before it happens.... I think it's the bleakest film ever made. It certainly leaves an impact on anyone who watches it.... THREADS was based around facts too. Look at the credits at the end, the list of people who were involved in the making of it....
YOU CANNOT WIN A NUCLEAR WAR!!
@@SuckasNeverPlayMe You are right 💯! There are no winners in a Nuke War. What's left to conquer? Earth would be a literal cesspool of radiation. I wouldn't want to live in an underground bunker, waiting on death by thousands of different cancers. Also, things are getting more ramped up with the Koreans, China, Israel and pretty much anyone on her borders, and as you mentioned, Yemen. I don't know about you, my friend, but 2024 is looking kinda creepy. What do you think?
I think i remember watching this. Its nice to see people in public walking around with out cell phones. I miss those days.
...that and the big cars
I miss them too.
*except the music. I hate synth. And that's all 80's music was.
@@besticudcumupwith202 Nice to see you and Mr Duck have covered all the important issues raised by the film.
@@bestbutter ...I forgot to mention most 80's girls still had bush. This was before the whole "Brazilian" rage took over.
So there's that too.
@@besticudcumupwith202 I am glad you mentioned that one! A matter of utmost importance that is often overlooked in these anti nuclear war films.
@@Grisha_Goryachev...I know right! The Brazilian changed everything!
The only way to win..... is to not play the game......
I want to thank this UA-cam channel for making this documentary publicly available. I've personally been studying global nuclear warfare and civil defense for over 20 year's and I've not seen this film until now. The film is dated but still relevant.
Me too.
My computer just posted on-screen, "Shall we play a game?" ;-P
And it comes down to a simple question. How do you want to die?
A: quick, fast, and painless or
B: slowly, painfully from
ARP?
@@MrSpudz2 C: Rename myself Hummugus and finally begin my career as a post apocalyptic warlord of the wastes.
@@MrSpudz2quick fast and painless that's why I live in a Major Nuclear Target! Millisecond bright light and I'm vaporized. I've suffered enough.
The BBC movie Threads is slow to get going but is a grizzly and depressing account of nuclear combat in England.
I watched it...and you are correct
Scariest, darkest film I've ever seen to this day. Makes 'The Day After' look like Romper Room.
Scarier than a horror movie. Sheffield in ruins after several nuclear weapons destroy Sheffield and surrounding areas and many of the population die as a result of radiation poisoning or shot for stealing. In the initial blast, people caught in the open are killed. And it seems like the ones that really suffer are the survivors because they're stuck in a nuclear winter, they're left to deal with food shortages, crops that fail, higher risk of cancer and cataracts because of damage to the ozone layer, and a total breakdown in society. But the postwar generation suffer a fate far worse because they had a greater risk of mental retardation after being exposed to radiation while still in the womb, especially for Jane. And she gave birth to a baby who was mutated and stillborn. A terrible scenario to even think about living in.
Ahhh....these were the good Ole days...if we only could have known how the world would be today.
This is the evils we face so sad we all live on one planet 😢
A 15 mhinute warning ? Cool that will give me plenty of time to roll a joint.
Don’t forget the Brandy, you’ll need it!
Why??
When you could just pack a bowl.
Over here in Britain we only get 4 minutes so I make sure I'm high constantly 😂
Over here in Britain we only get 4 minutes so I make sure I'm constantly high😂
I wish we were still in the 1980's
And the clock keeps ticking ever so closely to this horrific scenario.
In case of nuclear attack, get close to ground zero if possible…better to get vaporized straight away than face the aftermath.
Absolutely not.. people owe me money. I’m collecting
@@Helmuesi911 lol
I agree, life will hell on earth for any who survive
I do prepping as much as I can one thing to me not worth living though is a nuclear war
Wanna be vaporization buddies?
A big problem in avoiding nuclear war is that the decision makers believe they will be safe under ground. They would decide different if they thought they would face the same consequences as the rest of us.
What the "decision makers" fail to take into account, is that the survivors will be waiting for them as they crawl out..The survivors will not be happy!!
The Nukes we have now...I doubt there will be any survivors...
They will face those same consequences. They're safe only until the groceries run out, and there won't be anyone coming to their rescue either. They have a function in the post-war world only because a sheaf of papers says they do, but the commander on the surface and his troops are the ones with all the guns. It won't take long for them to figure out they don't need the big shots underground for anything. The phone lines or radio aerials get snipped and those fools will be left to die in their bunkers.
They also didn't recognise that then people that they depend on are gone. They will need to find food and water. Nothing will come out of a tap. Supermarkets and convenience stores are gone or filled with how rotting food.
Nope, if it comes to MAD, then I hope I am vaporized, rather than living in a nuclear wasteland. With constant reminders of better and healthier times.
They would be utterly impotent and wouldn't even realize it. They would just keep going about as if their "duties" mattered.
I remember very well this time of a big tension between the U. S. A. and the Soviet Union, in 1983, when this documentary was made. It really looked like that the nuclear war can happen at any moment. I was still in the primary school. We watched another films: Threads and The Day After. It was a horrible feeling. I can't believe that we are again very close to this terrible crisis situation of fear because of the possibile nuclear destruction.
We're probably a similar age, and I fully agree with you. It is depressingly terrifying that we face this today.
I think the threats even bigger now cuz we have China in the mix now North Korea India Pakistan maybe even Japan Iran
Threads is absolutely terrifying
We are definitely not in the same level of fear and anxiety. Schools don’t have nuclear attack drills. Civil patrol doesn’t conduct tests. Bomb shelters arnt advertised in the newspapers, and people arnt buying stocks of canned foods to store away.
@@pizzamovies23 maybe they should. Things are not great right now. Also, most of don't live in the USA. I'm in Great Britain and we never had any of those things.
Civil Defence was tried here a little till the fifties when the H Bomb made it redundant. Our government realised there was no protection possible for the public so didn't waste any money on it.
The UK is a small country and in the 80s had many target areas (over 200). I doubt that's changed too much.
In fact Britain is worse prepared now than we were then. All the infrastructure that was in place for continuation of government and fallout detection/warning has been dismantled. We haven't even had a siren system here since 1990s.
There are no public shelters anymore..
2nd time watching this as a Civil Defense kid. The fear in the day was genuine.
... but, more-so TODAY!
"THE DAY" has returned my friend and it looms in the hands of a new breed of political madness and controlled for the most part by madmen with no regard for humanity...
Just profits&power where we are nothing more expendable livestock milked for our taxes&labor
It's time to fear again
This is the third time as a Civil Defense kind. One of my earliest memories is being in a fall out shelter because someone decided to park his missiles 90 miles south of Florida.
The fear is back today
They won again then !
Look at the exquisite facilities set up to shelter government people during this catastrophe. They won't do that for the populace, because it costs too much. Even though we're the ones that pay for their damn shelters
Those that manned those facilities would suffer the longest! In the end everyone gets it....nobody gets out alive.
It will make no difference in the end whether the government have the best shelters or not. Their power runs out when the last of the fuel for the generators is gone. Their chances of survival run out when the groceries are gone -- especially drinking water. And likely their control over anything outside ceases within three weeks of the attack because those people only have a function simply because a sheaf of papers says they do, but the troops and police up top with the guns are the ones who are really in charge and it won't take them long to figure that out. Basically, those bureaucrats within their shelters are dead within two months after War Day. The rest of the surviving population will die from famine, freezing cold, and every disease let loose by the complete collapse of the medical and sanitation systems. Shelters won't do a goddamn bit of good.
I think that I would prefer a civilian death to their’s any day. Vaporised as opposed to a lingering countdown to death with plenty of time to dwell on the coming nature of it.
Mr. Rasputin ! Firstly, its absolutely unrealistic to build and maintain nuclear shelters for the entire population of any country! Secondly there is a very famous made for tv film , the British" Threads " Its from the same year as this documentary. In the film they show the inner workings of a government shelter, very similar to the Canadian one ! To make a long story short, after the nuclear attack the shelter gets buried with rubble. First they run out of electricity, than food, water, etc. By the time they got uncovered, every one of them were dead . That film showed, that the luckiest ones were the ones who got turned into steam immediately
They will soon find out they don't have anyone to rule over and no one to take care of their pampered ass.
This was made in the era of The Day After, Threads, WWIII mini-series, Damnation Alley, Special Bulletin. I am glad it is still here for the next generation who have forgotten, but it's unlikely they will actually watch it. 99 luftballoons...
Nuen undt neunzig luft ballun..
Wasn't special bulletin about aliens? ITYM Countdown to Looking Glass.
@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Nope, Special Bulletin was something different, special. It was a fake TV news broadcast about a group of anti-nuclear terrorist who had a tugboat in Charleston harbor with a nuclear bomb. Yes, that is paradoxical and they recognized it in the film: Anti-nuclear activists threatening people with a home-made nuke.
@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Over this last weekend, I watched on UA-cam World War Three (1998) a made-for-TV faux documentary about an alternate timeline in which Gorbachev was overthrown by hardliners. I didn't have a television at the time it originally aired, but I was in college when the Berlin Wall came down.
Worry worry super scurry
Call the troops out in a hurry….
I bet that Dr is a right laugh at parties 😂
Threads is the most depressing, factual and poignant film about nuclear war and its aftermath that I’ve ever seen. Search it out if you’re interested
Excellent film for its time. Imagine about 1000 times worse would be most real Today. Russia has improved their payloads beyond nuclear. Fission 500 megaton with Hydrogen is a Nation crowd pleaser. Only need maybe 5 to 10 for cobalt and Hydrogen to turn the earth into a small Sun. We shure are pushing that option by reset. Those for the New Order really are arrogant thinking living in a luxury bunker with their Hoes makes them untouchable while the agenda of a zero carbon blueprint is achieved for maximum profits. However the surface slaves die about five and half seconds faster than the Elite armored in snug as a bug Two miles down.
But it doesn't have any car chases!
Ed Rose
THREADS was so well done, I thought it was a documentary!
The acting was superb!
I had to wait til the end to view the credits, just to be sure those were truly actors.
Totally realistic. Frightening!
Everyone, ask Jesus Christ into your heart NOW! We never know when our last breath will be! Amen
GOD BLESS,,,,,
It's available on Britbox
Threads us a very good movie....just to let people know, it's NOT fast moving.
I was 11 in October 1962. That was every bit as terrifying as 1983. Made worse when they told us school kids to hide under our desks. By 1983 I felt more resigned to it all.
Agreed, born under the bomb, it was just a permanent background to everything, feeding cynicism and nihilism.
you still dont even get close to understand the consequence of a nuclear war
Got that right 👍.
Got that right 👍.
Not that hard to figure it out..
@@user-so8ei2td1d i agree, but most still still thinks the human race will survive
I remember watching this on the CBC. It aired following The Day After, a made for TV movie set in Kansas during nuclear holocaust. I TOTALLY recommend The Day After, if anyone wants a glimpse into the genuine fear we all lived with during the cold war...
"The Day After" is very optimistic movie.
Watch 'Threads'' if you want a more realistic depiction of what a likely nuclear scenario would be like. And even that is an optimistic take, the aftermath would probably be a magnitude of many times worse.
Threads messed me up.
Thanks to our weak fake president we're closer than ever to midnight. Remember when the fake news said Trump would get us into ww3 and did the opposite? I remember.
They are so messed up but after listening to science Friday about thermal nuclear winter. No one on earth will survive the cold from snow blocking the sun for years..
In November 1983 the NATO exercise Able Archer and a malfunction in the Russian early warning system nearly triggered World War III. Never ever have the scenarios in this film been closer to reality.
During the Cuban missile crisis, a Russian nuclear submarine 2nd in command refused to launch their nuclear payload and wait for more information as he wanted verification for the recently received launch order. He risked his life and disobeyed his commander and saved the world as the order had been a mistake.
@@christianzilla Was a Diesel Soviet Sub, didnt have Nuke Missiles just one single small Nuke tipped Torpedo. Even if this had been used against one US Ship. USA/USSR were already pretty much in agreement to stand down by then. Would been a BIG mess but doubt would turned into WW3 by then. Problem was they had no Comm's to Moscow or anyone else and the Capt thought War had started. Even US was trying trying communicate with the Sub that they were not trying to sink it. As you said fortunately takes all 3 Officers to agree to launch/Sink that US Ship, the top 2 of Equal Rank and the Political Officer. Fortunately the Subs Batteries were exhausted so they had to surface and able to reestablished Comm's with Moscow.
@@firstsgt279 thanks for the details.
@@firstsgt279 They where trying to sink it whit depth charges, strange "comunication"...
I was in Germany, courtesy of Uncle Sam,at that time and remember well the apprehension of my fellow soldiers participating in "Able Archer". We had received our M1A1's earlier that year. We just knew we were about to be tested.scary times for soldiers. Thank God it didn't.
Two interesting movies to watch, "The Day After" & "Threads".
Both Reagan and Gorbachev watched The Day After and softened their stances on the others nations as a result possibly averting a real nuclear war. In 1987 the film was shown on Soviet television.
Also watch ladybug, ladybug... another nuclear war movie but seen Through The Eyes of young children. It was a very good movie
@@jessicapabon2105 Never heard of it, thanks, I will check it out. 👍
@@jessicapabon2105anotherone is letters of a dead man i suppose it's called in english. In german it's Briefe eines Toten
Cue Ren and Stimpy singing Happy Happy, Joy Joy! Very uplifting video!
Once a full scale global thermonuclear war has been fought, the survivors will envy the dead.
The only way to win is to not play.
The people in the first scene of this film did not hold any smartphone in their hands.😢
I'm surprised we have made it this far. I sometimes wonder if the planet will still be in one piece when my kids are my age.
The planet will be fine once we are gone.
@@michaelkremling5359 ......yes, a nuclear wasteland devoid of most life because of the idiots that we keep putting in charge!
Im surprised millions of people feel so tyrannized and powerless that they accept NATO and doom and nuclear blackmail and are apathetic resigned to doom.
Odd, how during the 1980s, in an arms race between the soviets and Ronald Reagan, America built fallout shelters for government workers while the soviets built fallout shelters for everyone.
No they didnt. They realized long before the americans, that was an impossible task to do.
15 minute warning ? Try no warning .
This was just a scenario in 1983. Hard to believe, today it could be a reality.
We’re nowhere near a nuclear showdown. Every little thing stirs up fake internet hysteria.
You haven’t been paying attention to what’s happening in Ukraine?
@@Helmuesi911 We are closer to it than in the '80s, when I grew up through that rubbish. Problem is there are more players than at any time, and at least three places where one mishap can lead to all-out nuclear conflict.
I think the expert sitting on his porch would be a good fit in the war room in Dr. Strangelove
He is telling the truth...
I recall some speculators selling fallout condos dug into the side of a ridge. Across the road from the 'survival condos' was a Minuteman 2 base, about five miles away. A perfect place to ride out THE END, just inside the fireball.
This movie helped my bowel movements flowed easier.
I wonder how this got passed the You Tube AI .
Can't see this being sensored. Seen worse on UA-cam.
Past, not passed
"Greetings Professor Falken. Would you like to play a game of chess?"
The only way to win is not to play……
After 3 decades of no longer playing this dangerous game, here we are again. The threat of nuclear war looms, and no one seems interested in a negotiated peace. All we are hearing is war drums. We are all our own worst enemy
Even worse when the people of different countries say, bring it on. I don't think these brain dead people realise what a nuclear war consists of.
You can’t negotiate with bullies and despots. It will never end.
@@peteparker7396 it will end... and very suddenly. and it's our fault
@@ScrawneyRonnie our fault? Do elaborate on that for me please sir?
Say thank you to Putin
This kind of movie is no exaggeration. No one can win . .
It would be more human to tell people to stay outside and don't suffer to long from fall-out.
Those guys in the silos, "so how was work today honey?", "We practiced ending civilization...."
Even in a nuclear war, Canadian doctors still provide shorter waiting lists than the NHS here in Scotland
Yeah, 40 years ago they may have but our medical system is in deep doodoo. No money, shortage of doctors and nurses. I need an angioplasty. Maybe in February.
lol
Here in the usa they'll take you right away but it will cost you your whole life savings.
If you dont mind assisted suicide as healthcare.
It's an even shorter waiting list if you can be cajoled into medically assisted suicide instead of treatment by the Liberal/NDP government.
They put a guy to death this year over hearing aids, and Veterans Affairs Canada recommended it as an option for an Afghan War veteran requesting a mobility device.
13:30 - how quaint. They think that government will still function, when in reality it'll look more like the bunker scenes from Threads.
I saw 2 of those B52 bombers on Biggs Army Airfield in 1989. I served 18 years in the army and those bombers are the scariest things I’ve ever seen in my entire life.
You know what scares me? Anti American democrats.
1 of those 5-52s is just one of those things that can really mess up your day.
But you won't be alone 🤔
It'll mess up your pets day too.
Leds than 15 minutes, as this film did not take into account of the Soviet subs just off the coasts.
that is propaganda.
The problem with the Russian missile submarines is that they spend most of their time at sea in well defended home waters. Their doctrine is to survive for a final city busting retaliation. To make an initial decapitation strike from relatively close launches, they have to approach the U.S. coastlines. Those movements are very likely to be picked up, and those submarines trailed by USN hunter killer subs. And the technical means to detect and localize those Russian boomers (SURTASS) will also be defended. The bombs for a decapitation strike are likely already stored close to their targets in the U.S.
@@martytrueblood5902 The Russians put one in the Hudson River! It is well documented. Russian submarines regularly patrol the eastern seaboard. It’s a cat and mouse game that has gone on for decades! Right now there is a Russian submarine less than 25m off the coast of the U.S, 100%! And there is the U.S equivalent patrolling Russian shores. That’s how the deterrent works.
@@SlinkiestTortoise23 it is nonsense propaganda as both countries fail from basic corruption..
Good ol’ Winnipeg…looks just like the day I moved there in 1984😂
Some footage taken from the 1980s movie "The Day After." Nuclear power plants would be first targeted then other important places would follow.
Yes... it'd be a constant Chernobyl every day of the year for decades on end... totally uncontrollable and unstoppable... drifting radiation from the ensuing meltdown after the plant was obliterated by the nuclear weapon blast would render entire regions too radioactive to even enter let along live in...
Watch the British movie THREADS here on UA-cam. It is a much better film and goes twenty years after the Worldwide nuclear conflict and it is very grim. And with Zelenzski and Biden today we will probably have a nuclear war within a months time. Hopefully I am in ground zero.
How little you understand the strategic concepts involved in any nuclear exchange. The last thing any hostile power, intent on takeover, would destroy would be the power plants, especially the nukes. Nuclear plants can continue to operate, months or even years, even if no fuel arrives. Let alone deliberately destroy railyards, bridges, harbors, and major highway interchanges, though some of that might be unavoidable in targeting their enemy military installations. It's a "counter-force" versus "counter-value" priority. Also why all those movies and novels that show cities being wiped out in an initial strike, though gripping, are completely wrong, as the most bellicose of Soviet generals, back in the day, never would have proposed such a thing.
@@selfdo lol nobody is taking over anything after a nuclear war and everybody who's honest about it knows it. All this rubbish about a "limited nuclear war" or "tactical nuclear war" is just that, rubbish. If it comes to nukes it'll be about obliterating the enemy and destroying their ability to ever recover enough to threaten the other side again...
@@lukestrawwalker While the "all or nothing" approach, aka "MAD" (Mutually Assured Destruction) has thankfully served to deter the use of nuclear weapons since 1945; there's no assurance that will continue. As well put in the 2002 film, "The Sum Of All Fears", just after halting a drill on responding to warning of a massive nuclear attack from Russia, which then had some estimated 27K nuclear weapons, the real nuclear "power" the US had to worry about was the crazy SOB with ONE. Or some rogue state with an apparent death wish, like Iran or North Korea, which, although obviously way overmatched against the USA, can still do significant harm with one or a few nukes.
But, as with any weapon, one still drills and has a fighting plan. Limited? Well, that's precisely my point...even when nukes are being used in the "tactical" sense, MAD still applies. Same reason as, in the waning days of WWII in Europe, Hitler could have ordered the deployment of several thousand artillery shells and bombs with nerve gas, which would have been devastating against American, British, but especially SOVIET armies closing in on Berlin. Why didn't he? Because he'd suffered gassing as a common soldier in WWI, and feared it, and that while a temporary victory, or at least reprieve, might be attained, there would be retaliation in kind. I hope the applicable civilian and military leadership that exercises control over their respective WMDs has at least that much sense.
I start every day by watching this film. Very motivational.
15 minutes warning if you were lucky they told you.
This topic warms my heart.
Same 🤣🤣
I loved the 80s but this video was tough to watch, didn't even make it all the way, still appreciate the upload.
After this, watch "Threads"
I guarded Tridents for the US Navy as a Marine and fixed their submarines as a later career in my life. Proud YardBird.. Grew up with this film as a kid. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for all you did for our nation. It's very much appreciated.
@Extreme Fart They know my name in DC and I've done many things for this country which shall remain unseen. Served in many ways and some are worthy of a Tom Clancy story. Helped shape Washington policy back in the day and hopefully I changed the world in a better way.
@Extreme Fart the amount of disrespect here is absurd
@@devildawgpryde4764 ignore that idiot. You cant fix stupid. You can, however, pepper spray it….
@@extremefart8932I think he's full of shit...
90 seconds to midnight.
Closest ever.
Thank God that Gorbachev and Reagan, separately and without knowledge of the other, refused to even consider ever launching the missiles.
Same questions today!
It's IRONIC that in the year 2022, we are (again) watching these videos
made in the 1980s... and it ain't (just) Russia anymore ...
I'll say, I felt a LOT more comfortable then!
".... would eliminate Canada as a threat" 🤣🤣🤣 A threat of what, getting sticky from maple syrup?
I love maple syrup.
Yea LGBT sticky syrup, Trudeau will make it a promise.
Sideshow Bob said it best'The living will envy the dead." Live from Norfolk, VA. The other ground zero.
I love the forlorn music used in this film. Fits the ideas being discussed pretty well. 😮
if you need me I'll be at at the bar
Those bombers were old when the documentary aired, and the same boomers are still in service today lol.
1st time seeing this Documentary.
And nothing has changed since then, except more powerful weapons....
Actually since weapons are more accurate, the yields are far less than they were in the 80s.
@@curmudgeonextraordinaire1884 And they are also less "dirty", meaning they leave less radiation behind
Let us all hope this will never happen let us hope government's in control of these horrific weapons have decency and common sense ✌️🇬🇧👍
The words Biden and Control don’t fit together.
The THIRST from the Radiation is supposed to be the WORST!!
To survive the initial blasts would truly be horrible. To slowly die from radiation poisoning and starvation would be the nightmare.
The way things are going on in the world this is sadly becoming closer to reallity.
Having grown up living in Montana under the endless threat of nuclear war I use think about it alot, fantasizing about the bunker I would build if I ever had the money. Now I really don't care.
@MarkedID I don't care
either we both must be
married 😋
That was a brilliant watch.
Now this is a cheery bunch!
The white metal die cast factory I used to work in was a Cold War prefabricated concrete building. Reinforced concrete slabs placed upright between similarly made square pillars.
The idea being machinery would be protected. Windows would be covered or replaced. And manufacturing would be restarted as quickly as possible. Much like the cities in Japan.
We were the tool and die capital of the world in our area. And number four on the the Soviet Union list of cities to be destroyed.
Would the fabrication of the building act as a Faraday cage and protect all the ICs in the machinery? And even the most advanced factory needs some human input, if the surrounding area has been pounded hard to try and get your machines, who do they think will go in to do a spot of overtime until everything settles down? Sometimes you wonder why would you even bother? They might as well just say, if it kicks off, it's every man for himself (which it will be), good luck
@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname Twilight Zone TV series: "The Shelter"
Would the EMP blast not render all electrics dead and the radiation fallout would kill most of the workers or make them so weak as to be unable to work in the factory. Would the roof not have been blasted off or was that a slab of concrete? Where would the store of safe food have been held for the workers (assuming the families of the workers were left to die of radiation/famine).
EMP and radioactive fallout are like the rain or snow or wind. You can have different amounts at different places. Different people and different buildings have different levels of resistance. As a generalization, 5psi = 165 mph will knock down most buildings. 300 Roentgens in a short period of time will kill half the people. 500 Roentgens will kill about 99% of those exposed. But some buildings could survive 5psi or more if built propertly. Some few people can survive even 600 Roentgens in a short period of time. How wet you get depends on how much rain falls on your location and how long you stand out in the rain. Ditto for nuclear blast or fallout or EMP.
Where's Waldo?
Who'd want to survive? See Threads please
I can't imagine what the death toll would be if there was no fuel or electricity even for a week.
Movie from 1983 calling the B52 old!! Little did they know 40 years latter they would still be in service.
So who's brilliant idea was it to put silos and air force bases next to the food supply of the nation?
It had to do with missile flight time. They stuck all the silos right in the middle of the country so once they picked up the soviet missile launches, they’d have the best chance of getting off our missiles. The whole thing is pure insanity but there’s a sick logic to it.
Was Security Police in the missile fields of both Ellsworth SD and Whiteman MO. They trained us to go into the shaft leading to the launch control facility after we launched ours. We all agreed to sit outside and just watch the show. The quicker death would me much better.
Your Dead Anyway You Look at It.
This is FORTY YEARS OLD!!! The dynamics have CHANGED!!!
It does say 1983 in the title
1983, "and although these B-52's are old...." 🤣
This is a great film. It would be nice to see some updated documentaries on this subject since weap0n technology has advanced substantially.
War has changed, its not about weapons or soldiers but propaganda and (dis)information.
Asymmetrical warfare ensures accurate documentaries like this one likely won't be made for mass public consumption ever again.
Our nuclear weapons technology has not advanced one single bit AT ALL. I believe it has retrograded. That of our adversaries has advanced.
@@ryanflecke2627 That would be a neat trick, considering when SALT inspectors checked Russian nuclear silos in the early 90's after the fall of the USSR half of them were full of water
@Phil Leotardo you mean like our titan 2 silos? Where do we get our tritium from? When did we develop our latest ICBM (that is in service, peacekeeper doesn't count)? Who has super EMPs(200kV per M³)?Our adversaries are developing new delivery systems TODAY.
I'm not cheerleading for our enemies, I want us to have a clear and decisive advantage, like fucking yesterday.
@@ray.shoesmith I kinda skipped over the obvious, but 30 years is a long time to retrofit or replace a flooded silo.
It was nice seeing the old cars and equipment. As far as surviving any sort of nuclear attack, whether limited or massive, is a farce on a grand scale. ✌
After watching so long, and working at a top 10 site for 20yrs. I think I want to be right under it. That saying about not seeing rats create rat traps really hits worse and worse.
We look forward to it....
Thank you! This was a chilling, sobering and no doubt very accurate documentary. That said, it would be great to have a version narrated by Bob and Doug McKenzie. “Do you know what a thousand 1Mt bombs detonated at ground level in a very small area over the Grand Forks missile fields really means? NO MORE BEER!!!” That would definitely drive the message home in a way that all the professors could not.
USSR was the biggest joke war in history..
Japan wins all wars..
read your operating manual on any electronic device
one virus has shut us down...
not a nuke
Ey, beauty way to go!
A nuclear winter from the dust projected into the upper atmosphere would last about ten years. No or reduced sunlight for ten years and freezing, radioactive conditions. Plants cannot grow in those conditions and that is the basis of the food chain. So yeah, no beer is a massive worry.
So, all you got to do is put a mouse in the bottom of an empty and take it to the government run fallout shelter. If you threaten to sue them, they'll give you a 2-4 for free! Maybe even throw in a pack of smokes. Beauty, eh?
@@123milw Would be great to have narrator say in his serious voice: "Like thousands of other shelters across Canada, the door to this shelter features a stern warning: "No Hosers!"
And I know this video is 40 years old, but just wanted to add that the Minuteman-III is no longer equipped with a MIRV and now carries a single warhead. Under international treaties only the SLBM are equipped with MIRV warheads - the Trident II (D5). I agree with Daniel Ellsberg's views on disarmament or at the very least taking land based missiles off hair trigger alert status and eventually abolishing them altogether. I think complete global disarmament is probably unrealistic, but getting each country's total number of warheads down to maybe a couple dozen would be a great step forward.
True on the last sentence for sure.
"Threads" is a GREAT movie. Look it up.
Great film. I was a sophomore then, good times.
Well, viewing this was a nice start to my day.
Very nice cheered me up no end.
Great to see a Canadian perspective on what a nuclear attack on our cities and facilities would look like.
Look for a radio drama called The Last Broadcast. It's here on UA-cam. It's of Canadian origin, too.
And not a god damn thing we can do about it
It's pretty cool watching the videos of decommissioned missile silos
They ain’t gone. They’ve been upgraded with the W87 (W87-1) warhead.
If you have a chance, please watch the movie/video ‘The Day After!… quite sobering 😢😱
Threads moreso
The Day After doesn't show the real horror of a nuclear war. Watch the Docudrama called Threads. Now that shows what a war actually does, and it stays in your mind for a very long time.
The day after is Hollywood trash, if you want to watch a far superior film on this topic, Treads
Compared to Threads, the Day After looks like a romcom.
Both films are horrific. Nothing in the Day After seemed like a walk in the park. Threads was horrific as well. It was so dark and doom and gloom. Nuclear War is gonna be the end.
I've never seen this one until today. It's well done. It's funny that in 1983 when this show was made, I watched Able Archer unfold around the naval station. So many B-52's flew over that afternoon that pictures fell off the walls and china spilled out of the cabinets. Those bomber were 30K+ feet up! That evening the KGB started up distraction efforts and the base was locked down. I found out that later that week many Soviet FBM's attempted to sneak past our defenses. 1983 was close!
FBM?
What is an FBM. I'm not military or I would probabl_kow. Thank You.
@@MM22966 fleet ballistic missile aka submarines with nuclear tipped missiles.
@@remus80 Ahhhhh. Boomers/SSBN. There was no context to figure it out.
I had a friend in the Navy at that time and he said a Soviet bomber flew so low over the ship it knocked off the antenna mast
Thanks dad
The early 80s was the golden age of speculative Nuclear War fiction.
99 red balloons, up in the sky over saskatoon.
We are soon to find out.
Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet Premier, said that following a Nuclear War
“ The living would envy the dead “.
Ahh... three warheads per missile. The good old days.
Very interesting, thanks.
I hope they don't warn us. 15 minutes of panic isn't worth transparent government