Lesley, I just came across your channel and I wanted you to know how much I've enjoyed this video. You made me smile, laugh aloud, AND you gave such valuable information. I'm a believer!!
This is great! Rose of Ultramarine is on my wish list! So pretty! I bought DS Lunar Black and mixed it with each thing in my palette (M.Graham). Oh the fun! You can get a lot of cool granulating mixes just with a tube of Lunar Black. Lunar Blue is phthalo blue and lunar black. I mixed that myself and it looked just like the tube. Try it with phthalo green and lunar black - new favorite green! Thanks for sharing this!
One of my favorite aspects of watercolor is mixing colors to see all the beautiful colors we can get. This was so fun to watch. Definitely adding a few of these to my shopping list!
Hi Lezley, thanks for all the great info. I mixed Napthamide Maroon the other day using Holbein Mineral Violet and Holbein Crimson Lake. It’s a beautiful wine shade as you mentioned. Just found you from Pinterest with this post and so glad I did. Been watercoloring for a while and just recently started mixing colors with what I have. It’s a wonderful learning experience. Blessings to you!💗Rita
I have really gotten into mixing colors and DS colors. My favs are the Rose of Ultra and the Moonglow. They blow me away. I got lucky with a boat load of coupons at my local art store in August so I picked up a few colors. One of my new favs is the Sleeping Beauty Turquoise. GORGEOUS colors. Thanks this was very useful to me. I thoroughly enjoyed it!! New subby!!!
I was able to recreate the rose of ultramarine. I used the Da Vinci red rose deep and Daniel Smith French ultramarine. Currently trying to get an Aussie red gold copy.
@@LezleyDavidson Hi Lesley. I enjoyed your video. I am also a fan of Handprint.com. I think that the Da Vinci Red Rose Deep uses the Quinacridone Rose version of PV19. I can’t remember if that is the gamma or beta version. I think Dr. Oto Kana on UA-cam liked the Da Vinci Red Rose Deep. When I was in the USA I found their prices really good. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I have several half pans of the colours you have, so now I’ll be able to use your recipes when I need more. My lunar black was ordered a few days ago before I found you. It uses PBk11 that I don’t have. Thanks again.
Thanks Lezley, I am a complete beginner in watercolours and I am hungry to learn all I can about pigments. Your video has helped in that process and Handprint is a great resource. Just discovered Daniel Smith and the gorgeous (probably not for beginners) colours!
Give us some More! This was fantastic. Will be watching this several times to memorize your successes. Made me understand that there is one more d.s. color that I need. It had been on my waiting list..now front and center.
Let me know if you have something in particular in mind. I make videos about stuff I’m doing so if I’m not trying out new stuff in my own studio - I’m not recording very much.
Came by your video after watching a few on D.S.'s Moonglow. You, Miss Thing are an absolute hoot! I so enjoyed your video and learned a lot, too! Keep laughing, as we laugh with you. I really dislike those artists that take themselves so darned seriously. You can be "artistly" if that's a word and still have fun too! XX I am a fan!
I mix some of DS colors just as you did instead of buying them. I dont trust myself mixing them consistently on palette though. If i really want to frequently use certain color and not pay for it separately i squeeze tubes on a palette and literally mix the color i want (always takes some playing around to get the tint right), then fill empty pans :)
Hello, I just found your channel, and so happy about that :-) I know I'm late here, but I love what you are doing! I wanted to mention that PV 19 produces many different colors (somehow). As far as I know, within Daniel Smith Watercolors, quin. red, quin rose, quin magenta, and quin violet, are ALL PV 19! I'm sure there may be more. I think the rose of ultramarine looks more like they use the PV 19 (pigment violet 19) of their violet shade. I could be wrong. Oh, but Daniel Smith's quin pink is PV 42. And when it says PB 15:3 this is the green shade, where the PB 15 is the red shade. But, then again, they don't always add the :3 when it's the G/S. Then we have PBr 7, geez, this is what so, so many of Daniel Smith's colors are, (and other brands as well) the raw sienna, the Monte Amiata Natural sienna, the raw umber, burnt umber, burnt sienna, and even pompeii red and german greenish raw umber, and more!!! So, yeah, it's hard to duplicate, when we cant be sure of exactly what they are using, ya know? I am wanting to order some daniel smith paints, but, haha, I'm poor, so I have to be choosy. I've been working on trying to narrow it down, but, lol, my list is actually getting longer...geez. I found this video searching for anyone trying to mix moonglow. I want to try to mix it right now, with what I have. It likely wont work, but for my one painting that I want to do, hopefully I'll get something close enough. You did great!!! I super enjoyed this video, and I am subbing now :-) And looking forward to watching more of your videos! You are just sooo likeable
Thank you for this video and the link to that website! I am just leaving student grade into artist, and I will be searching out many things in the future. I am only 6 months old in watercolor!
very interesting...one thought is if you used windsor and newton granulating medium you should get better results with the other brands of pigments!!! give it a try and let us know!
FYI, DS has not “magnetised” the paint by some special method! The pigment used in Lunar Black (called Mars Black in most other brands) is magnetic by itself, and can be easily found in other brands as well :) DS have just changed the name from the normal “Mars” to the unique “Lunar” to make it seem like they have a colour no one else has (to people who aren’t well versed in pigment information, which is probably most casual painters), to make people think they need to buy DS in particular. All the “Lunar” colours in the DS Lunar collection are just regular colours mixed with this Mars/Lunar black pigment, that’s why they’re all magnetic. You can easily mix these yourself on your palette by just buying any Mars black on the market and mix them with colours you already own :)
the pr177 can't really be replaced as it how it travels across the paper taking the granulating pigments .fun to do though. Phthalo blue comes in 4 shades from pb1,15.1 15.3 15.6
+Maria Kellner Phthalo Blue (GS) is consistently PB 15:3 across most brands. Check out handprint.com for the most thorough breakdown of pigment info - it's an amazing site. handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterfs.html
I love Moonglow. You can probably use it for shadows but because it's got a few pigments in the recipe, it may get muddy depending on what you're laying it over or mixing it with.
I would likely mix it with ultramarine and quin rose, even Opera... I do flowers, mostly. God I love that shade, and It would be my first D.S color. It's in my cart to buy in a week. Maybe you can tell me what you didnt like it mixed with? Thanks for your quick reply. I also use Madder Lake Deep with my Van Gogh, but am ordering ShinHan, which has 15 single pigments in the 30 set ;-)
Stick with transparent colours and you should be okay. Moonglow is made of a green, blue and red pigment - so it's already in the "many pigments" party. Test it. Report back. :D Moonglow (PG18 PB29 PR177)...
Love this, I also tried to do this recently using D.Smith's pigment mixes. I just couldnt get the exact effects tho, primarily for Undersea Green.. I thought maybe they grind some pigments finer or less for these specialty mixes, the pigment ratios probably arent equal and something with the binder must cause some of the "special effects", idk? But it's nice to know you can get pretty close. I had to laugh at what you said about the chemists.. lol must be a fun job tho!
Yeah - it's hard to get them close unless I used Daniel Smith single pigments to mix. Undersea Green is Quin. Gold and Ultramarine Blue - no special ingredients, though I hadn't considered the grinding properties before - that might be a factor. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience!
I think there are definitely special helpers in the binder of some of the paints. Daniel Smith has many colours where the pigment isn't naturally that granulating, so some colours definitely gets a bit of help from the binder. Some of those fascinating multi-pigment colours like Moonglow, if you just mix those pigments with a standard water colour base you don't get that behaviour. It *might* just be the particle size, but I doubt it.
@@tonaaspsusa - The binder can only do so much, before too much of it can cause drying or cracking. Besides the binder (gum arabic) creates a flocculation effect (pigments attracting & clustering to one other). To force a non-granulating pigment mix to have a granulation effect, you need to mull sedimentary pigments into coarser & irregular-sized particles and other pigments into much smaller & finer particles. This is so that when the pigments are combined, the dispersal of the larger pigment particles separate from the finer ones & give an agglomerated texture. Another method is to magnetize the pigments, such as seen in Lunar or Magnetite paints.
you make me giggle! just how you say things it sounds like me! I'm wondering if you add a granulating medium to your knock off mixs they would be very close.... all my best Heather
I am buying ShinHan watercolor 30 set, and I think granulating medium would make many more interesting. I am going to use them alonee foor a short while, and see if the medium is something I want. I want the irridescent medium, but am just going to get the cheap pearlie paints first to see how much I enjoy the effects. I can also mix those pearl shades in a small cup of water to isolate where I want a bit of glow, but not real shimmer, which is what I am really after. I think that the mediums can really help student grade paints to be much more interesting. I have a 20 Van Gogh set that I love, but I am craving some effects to try before I spend a lot on the better quality ones.
I love the idea of pearl paints but am always disappointed by the results. They tend to work best over dark colours and I always forget I have a set of cheap pearls... I DO like the metallic gouache from W&N - they are scrumptious. Good luck! Let me know how you like the granulating medium!
Was looking for a related video while doing my own practice mixes. I have some Daniel smith paints from Christmas and was able to try a few along with you, while doing many other different custom mixes. I advise using a fineliner to note the brand and names of the paint used for mixes as well as if its a touch of one or a more even mix (default). I plan on being able to refer back to these later so I did mine in a sketchbook. I also need ot do various paper tests as paint reacts different on different papers. Fun video thanks!
I bought the Decadent Pies. I got it hoping the colors would be good for the occasional portraits. Thank you for answering my inquiry so quickly. Have a enjoyable artistic day.
Thanks for this video! I have only been using watercolors for a year, and at first did not like any granulation. Now I am very texture detail orienting with some mixed media, and granulation is an amazingly beautiful thing! Your knowledge is well shared!
YES!! I love the granulation!! Watercolours were a big lesson for me in letting go and to stop trying to arrange and control every stroke. My paintings started looking better when I just let the paint and water do it's thing.
Honestly I was hoping for a more organized way to identify the paints. It was sad although I wish you the best. To understand it has to be organized just a little more then you will be on your way.
вся проблема в том, что вы не знаете соотношения частей каждого пигмента в краске и делаете один к одному. Более того, может в оригинальных красках добавлены гранулирующие медиумы.
Luna black is pbk 11 which is granulating. I buy schminke Mars black which is the same and has great granulation. Lamp black is the wrong pigment and is non granulating.
daniel this paint change lot is to Spencer this brand.... now we have cheaper price good quality Holbein, usa brand etc and mixed to found great result some mixed gouache a little. cheaper paint, gum arabic,( little) have great result i no need buy Spencer brand
Ha! At the time I worked at an art store and got a discount. Though in truth - if you want an accurate test, use should use the same materials that you’ll use in the final piece.
@@LezleyDavidson If I was good enough to make a "final piece" on Arches paper - then perhaps I'd use the same to practice on and swatch... unfortunately - us mere mortals need to stick with Meeden and Baohong paper....
Lesley, I just came across your channel and I wanted you to know how much I've enjoyed this video. You made me smile, laugh aloud, AND you gave such valuable information. I'm a believer!!
Thanks Pat! It's super sweet of you to share the positive feedback. Totally made my day. :D
This is great! Rose of Ultramarine is on my wish list! So pretty! I bought DS Lunar Black and mixed it with each thing in my palette (M.Graham). Oh the fun! You can get a lot of cool granulating mixes just with a tube of Lunar Black. Lunar Blue is phthalo blue and lunar black. I mixed that myself and it looked just like the tube. Try it with phthalo green and lunar black - new favorite green! Thanks for sharing this!
The color were so creamy , beautiful work
Thanks! Also LOL profile pic. :D
One of my favorite aspects of watercolor is mixing colors to see all the beautiful colors we can get. This was so fun to watch. Definitely adding a few of these to my shopping list!
Yas!! I love the spontaneous chemistry of colour-mixing!
Hi Lezley, thanks for all the great info. I mixed Napthamide Maroon the other day using Holbein Mineral Violet and Holbein Crimson Lake. It’s a beautiful wine shade as you mentioned. Just found you from Pinterest with this post and so glad I did. Been watercoloring for a while and just recently started mixing colors with what I have. It’s a wonderful learning experience. Blessings to you!💗Rita
Thanks for connecting! Good luck with your mixing journey - it's a deep rabbit hole!!
I have really gotten into mixing colors and DS colors. My favs are the Rose of Ultra and the Moonglow. They blow me away. I got lucky with a boat load of coupons at my local art store in August so I picked up a few colors. One of my new favs is the Sleeping Beauty Turquoise. GORGEOUS colors. Thanks this was very useful to me. I thoroughly enjoyed it!! New subby!!!
I love those Daniel Smith colours as well! Sleeping Beauty Turquoise is new to me - I’m going to have to check it out!
Aaaargh so beautiful!!! *adds to WANT list*
I was able to recreate the rose of ultramarine. I used the Da Vinci red rose deep and Daniel Smith French ultramarine. Currently trying to get an Aussie red gold copy.
Nice! I’m going to look up the pigment of DaVinci Red Rose.
@@LezleyDavidson Hi Lesley. I enjoyed your video. I am also a fan of Handprint.com. I think that the Da Vinci Red Rose Deep uses the Quinacridone Rose version of PV19. I can’t remember if that is the gamma or beta version. I think Dr. Oto Kana on UA-cam liked the Da Vinci Red Rose Deep. When I was in the USA I found their prices really good. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I have several half pans of the colours you have, so now I’ll be able to use your recipes when I need more. My lunar black was ordered a few days ago before I found you. It uses PBk11 that I don’t have. Thanks again.
Excellent! Thank you!
Thanks Lezley, I am a complete beginner in watercolours and I am hungry to learn all I can about pigments. Your video has helped in that process and Handprint is a great resource. Just discovered Daniel Smith and the gorgeous (probably not for beginners) colours!
Excellent! There's another link in the comments to a great pigment site if you're looking for more.
Give us some More! This was fantastic. Will be watching this several times to memorize your successes. Made me understand that there is one more d.s. color that I need. It had been on my waiting list..now front and center.
Let me know if you have something in particular in mind. I make videos about stuff I’m doing so if I’m not trying out new stuff in my own studio - I’m not recording very much.
I mixed Q red, viridian, and um deep, and got a beautiful “ Moonglow “. I wanted to substitute the fugitive PR177 in Moonglow.
What was the deep pigment? That sounds like a good mix. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Ultramarine deep
Came by your video after watching a few on D.S.'s Moonglow. You, Miss Thing are an absolute hoot! I so enjoyed your video and learned a lot, too! Keep laughing, as we laugh with you. I really dislike those artists that take themselves so darned seriously. You can be "artistly" if that's a word and still have fun too! XX I am a fan!
Thank you!!! ❤️
I mix some of DS colors just as you did instead of buying them. I dont trust myself mixing them consistently on palette though. If i really want to frequently use certain color and not pay for it separately i squeeze tubes on a palette and literally mix the color i want (always takes some playing around to get the tint right), then fill empty pans :)
Hello, I just found your channel, and so happy about that :-) I know I'm late here, but I love what you are doing! I wanted to mention that PV 19 produces many different colors (somehow). As far as I know, within Daniel Smith Watercolors, quin. red, quin rose, quin magenta, and quin violet, are ALL PV 19! I'm sure there may be more. I think the rose of ultramarine looks more like they use the PV 19 (pigment violet 19) of their violet shade. I could be wrong. Oh, but Daniel Smith's quin pink is PV 42.
And when it says PB 15:3 this is the green shade, where the PB 15 is the red shade. But, then again, they don't always add the :3 when it's the G/S. Then we have PBr 7, geez, this is what so, so many of Daniel Smith's colors are, (and other brands as well) the raw sienna, the Monte Amiata Natural sienna, the raw umber, burnt umber, burnt sienna, and even pompeii red and german greenish raw umber, and more!!!
So, yeah, it's hard to duplicate, when we cant be sure of exactly what they are using, ya know? I am wanting to order some daniel smith paints, but, haha, I'm poor, so I have to be choosy. I've been working on trying to narrow it down, but, lol, my list is actually getting longer...geez. I found this video searching for anyone trying to mix moonglow. I want to try to mix it right now, with what I have. It likely wont work, but for my one painting that I want to do, hopefully I'll get something close enough.
You did great!!! I super enjoyed this video, and I am subbing now :-) And looking forward to watching more of your videos! You are just sooo likeable
Thanks Stacey. ❤️
Thank you for this video and the link to that website! I am just leaving student grade into artist, and I will be searching out many things in the future. I am only 6 months old in watercolor!
+TerrieJ DimestoreDivaTV I'm glad it's helpful to you. Good luck with your watercoloring!! :D
napthamide maroon what would be mixed to replicate this colour?
very interesting...one thought is if you used windsor and newton granulating medium you should get better results with the other brands of pigments!!! give it a try and let us know!
This was cool, it's good to know how to make them because what if you ran out of the convince mix while doing a project at 3am in the morning.
Enjoyed watching your video and found it very helpful.
Thank you!
FYI, DS has not “magnetised” the paint by some special method! The pigment used in Lunar Black (called Mars Black in most other brands) is magnetic by itself, and can be easily found in other brands as well :)
DS have just changed the name from the normal “Mars” to the unique “Lunar” to make it seem like they have a colour no one else has (to people who aren’t well versed in pigment information, which is probably most casual painters), to make people think they need to buy DS in particular. All the “Lunar” colours in the DS Lunar collection are just regular colours mixed with this Mars/Lunar black pigment, that’s why they’re all magnetic.
You can easily mix these yourself on your palette by just buying any Mars black on the market and mix them with colours you already own :)
Great info - thank you!
Lezley Davidson You’re welcome! I’m glad I could be of help :-)
Thank you. This is why I only buy single pigments. But I still want ALL of the pigments. PBk11 is a most useful black.
I love this video so much I’ve watched it 4 times 😘
:D
Loove this video! I will try something similar when I get the dot samples from DS, but with my own paint :D
the pr177 can't really be replaced as it how it travels across the paper taking the granulating pigments .fun to do though.
Phthalo blue comes in 4 shades from pb1,15.1 15.3 15.6
+Maria Kellner Phthalo Blue (GS) is consistently PB 15:3 across most brands. Check out handprint.com for the most thorough breakdown of pigment info - it's an amazing site. handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterfs.html
I am stuck on buying the stick in Moonglow. I feel like it would be so convinent for shadows, does it really mix poorly?
I love Moonglow. You can probably use it for shadows but because it's got a few pigments in the recipe, it may get muddy depending on what you're laying it over or mixing it with.
I would likely mix it with ultramarine and quin rose, even Opera... I do flowers, mostly. God I love that shade, and It would be my first D.S color. It's in my cart to buy in a week. Maybe you can tell me what you didnt like it mixed with? Thanks for your quick reply. I also use Madder Lake Deep with my Van Gogh, but am ordering ShinHan, which has 15 single pigments in the 30 set ;-)
Stick with transparent colours and you should be okay. Moonglow is made of a green, blue and red pigment - so it's already in the "many pigments" party. Test it. Report back. :D
Moonglow (PG18 PB29 PR177)...
I know this is late, but I glaze with it for shadows.
Sounds like a great use for It.
Love this, I also tried to do this recently using D.Smith's pigment mixes. I just couldnt get the exact effects tho, primarily for Undersea Green.. I thought maybe they grind some pigments finer or less for these specialty mixes, the pigment ratios probably arent equal and something with the binder must cause some of the "special effects", idk? But it's nice to know you can get pretty close. I had to laugh at what you said about the chemists.. lol must be a fun job tho!
Yeah - it's hard to get them close unless I used Daniel Smith single pigments to mix. Undersea Green is Quin. Gold and Ultramarine Blue - no special ingredients, though I hadn't considered the grinding properties before - that might be a factor.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience!
I think there are definitely special helpers in the binder of some of the paints. Daniel Smith has many colours where the pigment isn't naturally that granulating, so some colours definitely gets a bit of help from the binder. Some of those fascinating multi-pigment colours like Moonglow, if you just mix those pigments with a standard water colour base you don't get that behaviour. It *might* just be the particle size, but I doubt it.
@@tonaaspsusa - The binder can only do so much, before too much of it can cause drying or cracking. Besides the binder (gum arabic) creates a flocculation effect (pigments attracting & clustering to one other). To force a non-granulating pigment mix to have a granulation effect, you need to mull sedimentary pigments into coarser & irregular-sized particles and other pigments into much smaller & finer particles. This is so that when the pigments are combined, the dispersal of the larger pigment particles separate from the finer ones & give an agglomerated texture. Another method is to magnetize the pigments, such as seen in Lunar or Magnetite paints.
Daniel smith has an white and yellow primatek colors at now?
very interesting video! I might mix up some of these colors myself! C:
A great video on colour blending and replicating the exact tint. Nicely done. Thanks.
Many thanks!
Thanks Lezley, great stuff
you make me giggle! just how you say things it sounds like me! I'm wondering if you add a granulating medium to your knock off mixs they would be very close.... all my best Heather
+Blissfulthings That's a good idea - it's worth a try! :D
I am buying ShinHan watercolor 30 set, and I think granulating medium would make many more interesting. I am going to use them alonee foor a short while, and see if the medium is something I want. I want the irridescent medium, but am just going to get the cheap pearlie paints first to see how much I enjoy the effects. I can also mix those pearl shades in a small cup of water to isolate where I want a bit of glow, but not real shimmer, which is what I am really after. I think that the mediums can really help student grade paints to be much more interesting. I have a 20 Van Gogh set that I love, but I am craving some effects to try before I spend a lot on the better quality ones.
I love the idea of pearl paints but am always disappointed by the results. They tend to work best over dark colours and I always forget I have a set of cheap pearls... I DO like the metallic gouache from W&N - they are scrumptious.
Good luck! Let me know how you like the granulating medium!
Was looking for a related video while doing my own practice mixes. I have some Daniel smith paints from Christmas and was able to try a few along with you, while doing many other different custom mixes. I advise using a fineliner to note the brand and names of the paint used for mixes as well as if its a touch of one or a more even mix (default). I plan on being able to refer back to these later so I did mine in a sketchbook. I also need ot do various paper tests as paint reacts different on different papers. Fun video thanks!
Hello Lezley, Could you try the Prima Watercolor Confections. I'm enjoying watching your comparisons. Thank you so much.
That's a good idea Connie - I've heard a lot about them and I LOVE the metal travel tin. It's on the list! Thanks!
I bought the Decadent Pies. I got it hoping the colors would be good for the occasional portraits. Thank you for answering my inquiry so quickly. Have a enjoyable artistic day.
Fun thanks
Thanks for this video! I have only been using watercolors for a year, and at first did not like any granulation. Now I am very texture detail orienting with some mixed media, and granulation is an amazingly beautiful thing! Your knowledge is well shared!
YES!! I love the granulation!! Watercolours were a big lesson for me in letting go and to stop trying to arrange and control every stroke. My paintings started looking better when I just let the paint and water do it's thing.
Honestly I was hoping for a more organized way to identify the paints. It was sad although I wish you the best. To understand it has to be organized just a little more then you will be on your way.
This was fun!!!!
Glad you like it - thanks for commenting! :D
вся проблема в том, что вы не знаете соотношения частей каждого пигмента в краске и делаете один к одному. Более того, может в оригинальных красках добавлены гранулирующие медиумы.
Awesome video! I mixed the colors along with you. You're funny too! Thanks
Thanks! 😊
RIGHT!
Luna black is pbk 11 which is granulating. I buy schminke Mars black which is the same and has great granulation. Lamp black is the wrong pigment and is non granulating.
Thanks.
Thank you
daniel this paint change lot is to Spencer this brand.... now we have cheaper price good quality Holbein, usa brand etc and mixed to found great result some mixed gouache a little. cheaper paint, gum arabic,( little) have great result i no need buy Spencer brand
Yay! Nice to meet you fellow color chemistry geek. Subbed.
+elsa Grace Yay - welcome!
Excellent try, but they have been doing it for awhile. ;)
True! 🤣
Ultramarine...sorry
Lol.. are you "experimenting" with swatching colors on ARCHES PAPER!?!? LOL... RICH or just married to an Arches Paper Rep? Geeshh!
Ha! At the time I worked at an art store and got a discount. Though in truth - if you want an accurate test, use should use the same materials that you’ll use in the final piece.
@@LezleyDavidson If I was good enough to make a "final piece" on Arches paper - then perhaps I'd use the same to practice on and swatch... unfortunately - us mere mortals need to stick with Meeden and Baohong paper....