Don Dokken Talks Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhoads, Monsters of Rock, George Lynch, Interview EX 2021
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- This excerpt was taken from a full in bloom interview with vocalist Don Dokken.
Don talks about the '70s L.A. music scene, Quiet Riot, Randy Rhoads, Eddie Van Halen, George Lynch, Up from the Ashes, Under Lock and Key, Back for the Attack, Michael Wagener, Neil Kernon, & more.
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Up from the Ashes is my vote for most underrated album of the genre, it was fabulous
Incredible album
No doubt
Better than all the dokken albums
All the members in the album were incredible ! Badassness with John Norum and Billy White guitar riffs and solos are so underrated
@@michaelblack9458 Oh come on. Back For The Attack is the best thing any member of Dokken ever did, by far.
Don's speaking voice reminds me of Jack Webb from Adam-12.
Spot on !!!
Do you mean Dragnet?
Just the facts ma'am!!
It reminds me how he will never ever be able to sing again
Half of the World sounds like that over the phone, it just depends on Laziness, Sleep, Alcohol, Cigarettes, Drugs, Phone connection, Studio producer, Engineer, etc, etc.....
Don Dokken - Up from the Ashes really is a fantastic CD. If you haven't taken the time to hear it, you really should...
I love Mikey Dee’s time with Kind Diamond. Incredible drumming,
Don is such a nice guy. He was producing my friends XYZ at Total Access and couldn't have been more gracious.
My brother was good friends with Terry of XYZ before he passed away
XYZ is a killer band! 🤘
XYZ love that band.
Love XYZ!!!!!
I love how Don refers to it as the Blizzard of Ozz, because he is correct. Randy was joining a band.
Yep
Good point that Sharon wants you to forget.
ozzy came up with the term blizzard of ozz. ....
there exists photos of him in sabbath with the t-shirt that he drew that onto.
... always hard to say exactly what happened but lets not under-value ozzys input
@@DevilTigermoth let's not overstate his input he was basically a voice on diary of a madman, Lee demoed the melody lines and vocals on several sings because ozzy. couldn't get the time changes. Ozzy has always con tributes melody lines, concepts and some lyrical ideas. But he's not a songwriter. Working with Randy allowed hon to contribute more since Randy was willing to write chord structures under Ozzy humming stuff, whereas Tony would t do that. I think Ozzy's dad suggested blizzard of ozz and ye actually did form the band with guys from a band who opened for Sabbath but it was short lived.
come on man.
"basically a voice" ???
hes the voice of an entire musical genre!
the bark album has not aged well. saying ozzy didnt write any of it isn't exactly an insult ... lol. anyway that is just personal taste i guess, but ozzys voice is instantly recognisable. his delivery and candence were absolutely necessary for sabbaths success.
we all know who played what but without ozzy you would know who half these people are.
i just get sick of people dismissing ozzys input just cause he didnt write every single thing he sang. so what!
Don Dokken and George Lynch were great together in the 80's. Call the band what you want but great talent most of the time clash.
They were great,just couldn’t be in the same room together.
Always love these interviews from full in bloom..very entertaining and so good ..keep up the good work ! So glad you liked the music that was so good back then!
Up From the Ashes is a smokin album.
The only song I remember from that album was "Stay" which was way too pop metal for me, esp. after listening to the smoking "Beast From The East" album. I should probably go listen to the rest of it though.
@@jeffjackson9679 Rare I get your respond to somebody who posted an hour ago - But Stay was written for Dokken. .. Never got recorded, because they broke up ... So Don had his new band record it. Anyway youtube the song Living A Lie - You'll be tapping your foot 😁
It’s a shame that Up From The Ashes didn’t hit. I bought it when it first came out (one of the first albums I ever bought on CD) and I was absolutely blown away by how good it was. 🤘
Saw Quiet Riot and Dokken at the Starwood. Randy rocked. Dokken was a three piece, Juan Croucier and Bobby Blotzer. Dokken played a white Les Paul no George yet. Saw them several times afterwards. Up from the Ashes was an incredible album and show with John Norum and Billy White.
I had guitar lessons from RR in 1978 , I was so bad he suggested learning bass. I seen QR and VH a few times before they became big , Seen both bands play Fenders Ballroom
@@jeffblacky Unbelievable posts you guys. Very cool.
I was there as fan kinda right in the middle of this Dokken experience as George Lynch is my absolute favorite guitarist #1.
When Dokken broke up yes I was sad, but Lynch Mob and Don released new albums and both were so incredible I never played sides one single bit.
I loved Don's voice and Norum just matched it the same as George did. Then wow Logan and Lynch killed it in Lynch Mob just as equal.
I loved both albums equally. Not often does that happen. I know millions agree with me.
Very well put brother. To see them do a joint concert and end up with a monster jam at the end with everyone on stage would have been insane. If only...
One correction here is that Don saying he and Ed both had children during the summer of '88 on the U.S. Monsters of Rock tour. Ed & Valerie's only child Wolfgang was born in early '91. I saw Don here in Cleveland in November of '90 as he toured the excellent 'Up From The Ashes' record and he and the band were excellent. John Norum & Billy White were incredible live guitarists. Baltes on bass & Dee on drums were quite good as well. Don's a very fine vocalist with a unique vocal sound. I have the 'Dysfunctional' record and enjoy parts of it.
Somebody's not telling the truth here. I find it real funny how much George and Don's stories differ. I'd like to hear Jeff and Micks recollection of what happened over the record deal renegotiation.
Great interview, wasn't bored a second!
I remember when Dokken first split up, and Don was on a tour promoting the album, supporting Poison on their flesh and blood tour. Warrant was supposed to be the opening at, but something happened and they had to bow out. Dokken was great for about 30 minutes but they were booed off the stage by the crowd. I really felt for them that night cuz they were awesome
Edited for clarity
Don is such a straightforward guy. He is as much a fan as he is a performer.
Huh?
1976-1986 possibly the greatest 10 years in America.
1981-89 imo
Dam, "Up From The Ashes" is a Great album!!!!!!!!!!! Love it even up until this day!!
I love Don but he is time line is off. He claimed that he and Eddie would hang out during the Monsters of Rock tour and he said that Eddie had Wolfgang at the time however, the monsters of rock tour was in 1988 and Wolfgang wasn't born until 1991.
They're old they forget lol
Well they're both true - Just wasn't at the same time. ... Don does that all the time.
His time line is off
@@analystzorncasteel3047 which would mean his time line is off as the original comment suggested...
@@allsystemsgo8678 I never said his timeline isn't off.
Don Dokken was in L.A. before the sunset strip was evening a thing wow that’s astounding he was their pre-sunset strip and saw the whole scene begin from the ground level
I saw that Monsters of Rock tour at the LA Colosseum. It was hot as hell and suddenly someone yelled out, "Food Fight!". Boy, you've never party'd til you've had a food fight with 70,000 metal-heads! RIP Eddie and Randy, the Monsters of Guitar.
i was there .. july 1988 ...
At the Pontiac Silverdome in Detroit they emptied out pretty much every toilet paper and paper towel roll between sets. It was one big sea of paper being thrown every way physically possible. Surpassed only by the couple walking in shirtless, California tan with matching stonewashed ripped jeans, her white leather halter top, matching white leather dog collars, identical bleach blond spiked mullet haircuts, both overweight by about 30 pounds rolling over top of the jeans, both holding beers in each hand as we all leaned the heck out of the way so they didn't spill on us getting to their seats. Unbelievable. THAT was the 80s. Best decade ever.
@@RockDawg77 Lmao! Great story man!!
Up From The Ashes is my favorite Dokken album and I will never refer to it as a Don Dokken album.
No George Lynch.. No Dokken
@@sebbach3747 THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS thought as well and STILL DO....🤘🔥🤘
Even without Lynch, the guitar work on that album was awesome. 🤘
@@BangBang-hk4rg Yeah, Don was able to hire some of the BEST musicians in the business for that one. I ironically just listened to about half of it other day for the 1st time as I vaguely remember when it came out but wasn't interested (being a Lynch fan), as I physically bought the CD awhile ago. But yeah, obviously some GREAT musicians and everything but yeah....I couldn't get into it much. I KNOW I definitely wouldn't have liked it back then. Lol.....
Dokken was a great band,but we all know why we listen to and went to see them live...2 words GEORGE LYNCH!
nah - they, as a band, which they were, wrote a lot of great rock songs that had a lot of feeling and were catchy and also heavy and sometimes romantic that made a pretty wide audience happy including girls which a lot of bands couldn't do. George is a great artist but to ignore Don's talent, passion and vision is unfair. Honestly, when I saw them at Monsters of Rock with Van Hagar, Scorpions, etc they were the weakest band of the day by far, they did not project well, I couldn't tell you why---- but their records at the time were great and they made their mark, and one thing for sure, DON is the only member you could never replace....... that tells you something right there.... also he's a super classy, humble, funny guy that stuck to his craft when the hair metal scene went off a cliff and he continued to make good music and represent and devote his life to real music as apposed to all the soulless synthetic garbage out there.
@@1FeistyKitty first of all he's giving an opinion. They broke up right after that tour. I'm quite sure that the band wasn't at their best
LOVE U Don Dokken.... GOD BLESS U BRO.....
Great nuggets of Metal stories here, Don is very candid and honest, these guys were wasted those years so can't take it as gospel.
Up from the Ashes was a cool album, Lynch wasn't on it, but kinda mellow, Tooth and Nail now that's a rocking album.
Great interview.
Great rock & roll stories fixing flat tires with duck tape. A real spinal tap moment
LoL
Great interview ty
Don Dokken Up From The Ashes was a really good album still listen to it. Killer guitar playing on this album.
I've hardly ever seen much , if any, commentary from EVH on Randy Rhoads - in terms of personal interactions etc.. A lot of people have said they did know each other , it would be interesting to read/hear what Eddie's thought's on Randy.
one of my all time fave bands; shame it didn't last just a little longer
Dokken was an A league band, shocking when they broke up. i remember being crushed as a kid when I heard that, but wht Don says make sense about why they parted ways, and it is a shame he could not use his name.
Not really they never really headlined, Back up to Aerosmith during the under lock and key tour.
@@fendergibs no, Back for the Attack...Judas priest for under lock and key.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Yes that’s right in 1987 Philadelphia they opened up for Aerosmith. I don’t remember them headlining. As an aside under lock and key seemed to have the best production,, back for the attack was a brighter thinner production sound I’m not sure why they went in that direction after the great more full and rich sound quality of under lock and key.. Tooth and nail they didn’t have much money which explains the lesser sound quality but I don’t understand the production of back for the attack.
@@fendergibs
They were a top notch band. Headlining is not indicative of talent.
@@cupoli138 Yes but it still doesn’t explain why they didn’t headlined after 3
platinum selling records, tooth and nail, under lock and key, back from the attack.
Ratt starting headlining after out of the cellar.
Wow. You never know what a relationship is like looking at it from the outside. It's too bad he couldn't just sit back and enjoy being in such a successful project. But you know things weren't too bad. He was hanging out with Eddie Van Halen. That's not too shabby I'd say.
I am shocked Under Lock and Key only sold a little over a million. For some reason I had always assumed it was multiplatinum
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Really appreciate all your vids. Takes me back. My first show was pink floyd giants stadium june 88. Next show was monsters of rock a couple weeks later in giants stadium. Metallica killed it
It's really been great listening to Don talk about the old days with the band in various interviews. I sort of feel like an ass for believing Lynch's accounts of everything that went down. Still love George and Don, it's all water under the bridge at this point. I mean Don states it the way it was-even splits for the last live album (and their other albums too) so how could he be greedy? I didn't even know about the insane judgement when he was taken to court about using his own name...It really explained why there was the "Don Dokken" album title and he was so right, I assumed it was a solo record too. Don comes across as a great guy and it's been a pleasure hearing about back in the day from his perspective. I loved his most recent interview and think it'd be cool if him and George would hang out sometime living so close in the southwest.
Lynch was great. I moved to heavier metal in 86 but Dokken has my respect
I saw that tour. It was awesome.
Michael Wagener is GOOD PEOPLE, truly a good human being and extremely talented.
What sucks IMO is they got better with every record so it was definitely unfortunate they couldn't manage to keep it together.
Donald Dokken in the house
His timeline doesn't really make sense as far as playing with Quiet Riot and Van Halen. He said it was randys farewell show with Quiet Riot because he joined Ozzy but that was late 1979 and Van Halen was well on their way by then and wouldn't have been playing the Starwood anymore.
Bands that have got majorly famous come back and play those small iconic clubs. Van Halen played the Whiskey in the late 80's . Those clubs were not just for up and coming bands
Honestly, the older one gets, things from the past get blurred together. The years fly by. There are times I think of something from the past that feels like 10 years ago, but in reality, it was more like 17-18 years ago.
Yeah it doesn't make sense that Quiet Riot and Van Halen would play together in 1979 at the Starwood. I can't find anything online about that. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it seems a bit off.
@@seanentrikin9263 Quiet Riot did 2 reunion shows with Randy in 1980 when he was on a break from Ozzy :)
@@SKRooU2 Exactly
Don makes a great point about the name
Don's memory must be a bit cloudy. Randy Rhoads joined Ozzy in 1979, In 1979 Van Halen released Van Halen II and were already doing world tours. It's highly doubtful they played a show at the Starwood with Quiet Riot and Dokken.
Under Lock & Key is the best "sounding" record from a production standpoint.......not sure why that didnt continue with Back from the Attack, which had a less appealing "thin" brighter sound.
..yes, and I remember thinking when "Under Lock And Key" came out, I was sure it would be their breakout into huge commercial success.."In My Dreams" had top-10 power ballad written all over it, such a catchy riff and beautiful lead vocals, chorus, and lyrics..but it went nowhere, never understood why, with the success other metal bands such as Quiet Riot, Van Halen had achieved at the time, and the future success of Whitesnake..somehow, they got lost and swept under the rug...
@@dyer2cycle Under lock and key went platinum
@@fendergibs ..yep..but the singles went nowhere..which would have led to a whole 'nother level of fame and success if they had..like Journey, VH, Whitesnake, Def Leppard, etc...instead, they remained pretty much an album band...
Yes..alot of solid radio cuts on the albums but no crossover singles.
Also not a "dangerous" band image wise
Like motley crue/g'nr..too safe/commercial
And no pop hit singles kept them as concert
Openers and not headliners.
He stayed up late with Eddie in 1988 on the MOR tour talking about Wolf when he wasn't born until 1991?????
That didn’t make sense to me either. 🤔🤨🤷♂️🤷♀️
Liar
@@Dastardly_X Or most likely brain dead. When I read any of the rock 'n roll autobiographies I take them with a grain of salt because I discover so many inaccuracies in them Sammy Hagar's one of the worst. Nikki Sixx too. The one that always stands out for me is Peter Criss says in his book that the '94 Northridge CA earthquake happened at 3:00 am when it actually happened at 4:30 am. I mean, a fact checker could've easily have checked that.
@@DavidSmith-is4ph yes !
Too many drugs
Don Dokken is a American Rock GOD!
Don is indeed correct on the year of the MoR tour. But unless Ed was clairvoyant, there's no way he was taking bout Wolf on that tour. Tour was 1988. Wolf was born in 1991.
Idk much about Airborne, Don Dokken's group before forming Dokken. But the band he made with his name, Dokken, was a dam good 80s band, I believe that he had Richard Lynch on guitar in that formation. And the other day I was watching a guitar mixup of "The 79 Boys", which was someone, who made a video on UA-cam, probably a guitarist. But, he only had three guitarists material in this mix. To make it short, it was Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhodes, and George Lynch. Now it's obvious who went down as the ultimate god out of the three. And when Randy first saw for himself Eddie play, he became a fan a yes , he borrowed the finger tap that Eddie made famous, along with a couple other things. As a matter of fact all guitarists we're. But, when you're making a mix of the three best guitarists, obviously in your opinion in the year 1979, this guy needed to hold up and definitely pump his brakes. As Eddie had just broke thru with the first Van Halen album, and he lit that torch that got guitarists more into it, more interested, and everyone wanted to be able to play like him, nobody could. And this isn't a knock on Randy Rhodes, because Randy was an extremely young and talented guitarist, who stated that Eddie was one of his favorites when it comes to playing guitar. Now this is coming from a kid who started playing guitar at like nine years old. He was teaching guitar and music before joining the Ozzy band. I mean he knew the guitar through and through. Idk how old he was exactly when he joined Ozzy, possibly 19 or 20. So he was already teaching intense guitar playing and reading and writing music. And due to the fact he had passed away in a fatal plane accident, we will never know what was to be from Randy. But, from looking at his career until his death, you would know that his knowledge, and the way he could play music at only the age he was, was something else and had he been alive since, he would without any doubt in my mind be one of the best. Maybe not as good as Eddie, but as close as you would ever get to as good as Eddie. So, sorry I have sidetracked a bit. The point of the story is that George Lynch, the guitarist for Dokken, was a great guitarist. Any way you slice it the guy could play, and he had some real shredding solos on them Dokken albums. My only problem is this. And this is imo, so I hope nobody gets all bent, and forget imo, this is a fact. Whoever can't recognize this fact needs to get their ears checked out. Eddie was the best because he was an innovator with the guitar, from the tapping, to his own style, to inventing new ways of taking the electric guitar itself apart, and rebuilding it so the guitar could be louder as he wanted, may be give it a new sound he wanted, but the guy was constantly fucking with guitars and taking them apart, even building tools he would invent for others guitarists that would hold the guitar straight up as you would work on it. So this was next level, ahead of all these other guys type of shit. And Randy Rhodes was just a guitarist's guitarist. He started playing at a very young age, so I'm sure he was easily reading and writing his own music at the age of 14 or 15. And even at that age, I'm sure he could blow your mind. Ntm sure he did borrow from Eddie, was a fan, and was a bit blown away by his playing. So sure Eddie was the man. He was the man that a very special super talented Randy Rhodes had looked up to. Sure when the first 2 Van Halen albums came out, or just the first, and the world was exposed to Eddie Van Halen, that was it, a new rock god had been born with their first album and tour. Then when Ozzy split from Sabbath and needed a lead guitarist for his new solo band, he had Randy audition for about five minutes or so, just Randy, his guitar and a little amp. He was hired in five minutes with that small plug in amp, and no auditions with the band. And mind you, all the best guitarists we're obviously auditioning for Ozzy's solo band. He was already a big name, this man was the front man for Black Sabbath, the original Black Sabbath! Some would say they were the founders of heavy metal or heavy rock, and the albums they had made with Ozzy were all very well received, he was their original voice, but know it was a new era. And Ozzy Osbourne was a solo act with only the best talent playing instruments on records and concerts for him. Almost like a super group, and a young Randy Rhodes was hired after Ozzy hearing him play on a tiny plug in amp. Then Ozzy Osbourne and his band recorded their first album with Randy Rhodes I think that it may have come out in 1980,or a year before. But the album was titled The Blizzard of Oz, and the world was definitely then introduced to Randy Rhodes. And as we could tell on the album, this guy was writing the music and songs, and his playing on that album, with such great hits, I believe put him definitely in the company of Eddie Van Halen, especially his concert solos, they were unbelievable and just simply put, great. This didn't put him on EVHs level, but ppl were putting him on his own level nonetheless, and it wasn't to far lower than Eddie. Imo, I really loved Randy's playing, and the Ozzy/Randy Tribute album, it's all there. Ozzy had made us fans a special treat when he put out that Tribute album to Randy Rhodes because it was all live and if we had been too young or wasn't able to see and hear Randy play live, this album was just the perfect gift, also the perfect idea for those who had already been there, seen, heard, and loved Randy. And I remember, on the album, there's a drum solo and Randy's guitar solo, which I listened to do much when it came out on tape I know it came after Suicide Solution, I wore the tape to nothing and I'm not big on live albums. But, this was like a capsule frozen in time, of Randy Rhodes. And Fuck yeah! He was that damn good! Now(sorry so long), I am watching this guy's UA-cam video basically telling me that that George Lynch was on the same level as EVH, and Randy Rhodes. I had to comment on that, because beyond EVH and Randy Rhodes, I could think of a list of better guitarists than Lynch, and again I apologize. But Angus Young, Malmsteen, Joe Perry, Jimmy Page, I mean you get the picture right? Jake E Lee, Joe Satriani, Vinny Vincent, Ritchie Blackmore, and as he started making a few records with Dokken, which were pretty dam good themselves. I just didn't hear what came close to the playing on an album that EVH or even Randy Rhodes was on. Their fill ins and riffs we're fire. And imo Dokken had some good music, but the only album they put out that I thought was their best, meaning I could listen to their whole album was 1987s Back For the Attack. They even had that awesome song they made for the third Nightmare on Elm Street movie called Dream Warriors. The same being said, sure Richard Lynch was a great guitarist, and his guitar mixed with Don Dokken's phenomenal voice was definitely a perfect sound, I'm sure they made a lot of money off them albums, and we're great in concert. I'm sure as any guitar player from that time his solos were great, and his solos in Dokken's albums were great. But you can't ever in a million miles put him on the same level as Eddie Van Halen. And also that being the case, he wasn't even close to as good as Randy Rhodes. And like I said, I have a list of lead guitarists in that 1979 era and after that period that were much better than Richard Lynch. And when he disbanded from Dokken and made his own solo act Lynch Mob. Well they had some good players. And once again yes, Lynch can play. But, his solo work didn't even come close to his success with Dokken. I wasn't a fan of Lynch Mob, I know they tried to give them some airplay with a song or two that their label thought were hits. At that time I thought they sounded like every other band coming out at that time trying to capitalize on the right leather pants, long hair, and appearance. They could play, but they had no stand out hits imo. And they were more boring than bands like Skid Row, Guns and Roses, and White snake, or even White Lion. At least then bands had some if not lots of different and catchy songs, great guitars as well, and we're much more exciting. So after all that long ass bullshit that I wrote in this comment. Someone please tell me this simple question because I sure as fuck can't answer it. How can you even think of mentioning Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhodes in a somewhat best guitarists of that particular time, and then go and throw in Richard fucking Lynch in the same conversation as them two guitarists!? I would've probably even put Angus Young in that conversation possibly, but definitely before Richard Lynch!! WTF!? The only thing he's competed and beaten EVH or Randy Rhodes is not guitar, not even near a close to the lesser of the two. The only thing he's accomplished that EVH and Randy Rhodes couldn't accomplish is that he's still with us. To this day Lynch hasn't come close to being anywhere near or even slightly close to playing as good as either. He's never sold as many records or made better music than either, and that says a lot for Randy Rhodes, as we really didn't have him for long, but in about a three to four year time of his life, he's made much better music, albums and is still more relevant and recognized than Lynch. And as far as things go with the man himself Mr Eddie Van Halen. Well he's probably the most recognizable guitarist or even member of a band to this day, and probably for eternity to come. So why did this guy claim that these three guitarists we're on the same level in the year 1979? It's the absolute most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
The irony about successful bands, just like marriages, are that they form and really make it big on what each person brings to the group.. but usually they break up because of the exact same reason. Regardless of whatever happened, my coffin’s cd collection will definitely be including Dokken.
Don the equal of Eddie on guitar. My oh yes.
Don clearly said that Eddie was way better than him
interesting just how the Don/George stories vary..
What comes AFTER vary? Lol 😆...2 sides to the story and USUALLY? The ACTUAL truth is somewheres in the middle.... 😆
Don is a legend!!!
xoxo The Clarences
Donny loves revising history
Sux how you can lose in court and can't use your own name, Vandenberg got sued too but he got to keep his name
I remember a Dokken cassette said "Rhymes with Rockin'"
So Randy Rhoads came home after the Session w/Ozzy does some home town shows May 1980 29th Whiskey 30ith Starwood great shows By 1979 there was only one man that made the difference EddieVH Randys 's Les Paul was strung Heavy gauge High action This is how it Happened These 2 Guys RR EVH from the same town , same town reinvented Style
So awesome
Seen the Monsters of Rock in Memphis. The summer of 88 was HOT.
July in Houston was blistering hot! But, I was 14 and it was amazing!
I was at monster of rock in Memphis.
Never dawned on me what an "international" band that group was.
EVH birthdate Jan 6, 7. or 9 1955 and RR was late December 1956.... So Ed was almost 2 years older... at least 20 or so months.
I also think RR did Over the Mountain before he was exposed to Fairwarning.
Good for don telling the judge that statement.. Sue MY DAD WHILE YOUR AT IT...
Original Starwood Club in LA 1973 to 1981 :)
Dokken kicked Ass.
He made a mistake, when saying in 1988, during the Monsters of Rock tour, he and Eddie would go outside to talk and smoke because he didn't want to smoke or talk around Wolfgang and Don's kid. Wolfgang wouldn't be born for another 3 years in 1991.
yes I noticed that as well.
COOL INTERVEIW
Dokken is one of my hair metal guilty pleasures! 👍🏼
Not sure why listening to good music is a guilty pleasure
@@allsystemsgo8678 Back in the day, I mostly gravitated to the heavier end of the metal spectrum. Dokken was lumped in with the Poison and Motley Crüe type “hair metal” genre. That is why I, jokingly, still refer to them as a “guilty pleasure.” They made a lot of great, catchy, songs that I still appreciate and enjoy today.
Hair metal bands were the bands that came after bands like Dokken, Crue, Ratt etc. You know, all the copy cats that flooded the scene and were half as talented.
@@daviclar867 Um…not really. Google some old Hit Parader or Circus magazines circa 82-85. Crüe, Ratt, Dokken, Bon Jovi, Night Ranger, Stryper, Van Haley, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, KISS and lots more. Large amounts of hairspray and (sometimes but not always) makeup. A lot of great music though. I was there for all of it.
@@originalhaggis dude I'm talking about the name "hair bands"! Nobody used that term until a longtime after and it was coined to refer to the over flow of copycat bands that started coming out in late 80' early 90's.
I’ve met Don many times , Don’s a way cool guy , and a follow Harley rider / FXR 😈 😂 ,
"Nichola cane in" lol
Wolfgang came about three yrs later.
In all fairness, DAvid Lee Roth’s band was called David Lee Roth band 🤣 He did perfectly fine.
I like the mark 2 version of the LA version of Airborne... a cool and lost AOR gem
Van Halen playing the Starwood in 1979-1980???
Seems a stretch.
when don dokken went solo he should have called himself Dokken and named the album Don.
Btw, idk when this interview with Don Dokken was done, but it surely wasn't the Dokken in his hayday. His voice doesn't sound like it can hit them high notes like he did.
🤔 Quite "different" to say the least about the actual happenings back then and demise of DOKKEN itself , the "DON DOKKEN album" etc. to FINALLY hear Don Dokken's side of the story. I was such a HUGE Lynch fan in the later 80s, early 90s, seen and talked to him at THREE different guitar clinics, heard HIS side etc. and ALWAYS thought Don Dokken WAS the ultimate POS etc BUT? AFTER hearing from other people's perspectives THAT WERE AROUND the DOKKEN guys THEN etc...? I REALLY am and have been changing my opinion on DON DOKKEN the last couple/few years in particular. I mean, IK he wasn't an angel but....Lynch has DEFINITELY HAD HIS issues as well....😏 🤘🔥🤘
Well put, I feel the same way. I think, being a guitar player myself, you side with the guitarist in the band! LOL!!! Now, with time and space between-you really do take in the 'other side' and properly weigh in again and realize that there are many sides to the stories. I was really that way with David Lee Roth, Sammy and even Michael Anthony until you really understand, to be kind, how bad Edward was with his insecurity, his anxiety, his alcohol and drug addiction and you realize that maybe, just maybe Ed's way off base about everything!!! LOL!!!
Ask Don about Greg Leon and Gary Holland :)
Haha, George Lynch hey. I believe Don.
Uh no…Eddie didn’t have Wolfgang until 1991. The MOR was 1988 😂
True but maybe Ed and himself were talking about kids because Michael Anthony had a little girl at the time? Ed may have made some comment that Don misremembered. Maybe Ed was even just telling Don that he wanted kids or that Val and himself were trying to have kids? I remember that Val had a/or miscarriage(s) before Wolfgang was born? No biggy, these guys are trying to remember moments being asked in the moment that are decades old. Don is an older man now (68 years old).
I was at that tour. No offense intended for Mr. Dokken, but one mystery to me that didn't register with a 7th grade boy, was why the hell Metallica took the stage before Dokken?
this was before Metallica went "mainstream."
I was worn out after Metallica and I only heard Dokken, I did not see them because I was sitting by the fence at the edge of Candlestick Park. Then I did see and hear Scorpions come out and blow everyone away!
@@MichaelMaxwell747 The Scorpions smoked everyone like cheap cigarettes.
hello don from brad and shelly.
Van Halen were superstars in 1979?
Yes. 78 was Van Halen 1 and 79 Van Halen 2
Van Halen became big when they were blowing away Journey and Montrose every night in the US in ‘78. They became superstars when they blew away Black Sabbath every night in Europe in ‘78.
yes!
Yes they were but they were also back home and would go to clubs to watch bands and party. Just as Van Halen saw the members of Led Zepplin and Deep Purple do the same when they were coming up. Successful bands would go and hang out on the Sunset Strip, that is what bands did. David Lee Roth was doing blow with Motley Crue at their famous apartment just up the street from the Whiskey before they were famous. What I have read is that there is a bootleg from Randy's farewell show where Kevin DuBrow thanks the guys in Van Halen for coming to the show (as VIPs, not performers). Give the guy a break, he may misremember things but they can also be close to true. '79 was 42 years ago! This guy has been around the world, big tours, drugs and parties! Read about the history of these guys, you telling me Jeff Beck and Ritchie Blackmore weren't already guitar gods when they would hang out at the Starwood, the Roxy, the Rainbow, The Troubadour, the Whiskey or any of the other legendary clubs?
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I remember the BIG-3 of the West and George is one of them, still. Neil not getting along with George was the cause of the sinking of Dokken. Spenser and Watt knew it about Randy, Ted knew it about Eddie, and Neil had no clue who George was as a guitar player back then and if he did, did not let him have it. Producers suck in that way and George knew it then and now, but Neil should have been thrown out on his ass the album before that. Dokken went to battle with a hole in the hull this big.
So, George couldn't get along with Don or Ozzy. Interesting.
He never had Any problems geting along with Ozzy he just didn’t get the gig because of randy the first time and the second time did he lose his position to Jake e lee just because George had stort hair.
@@breakingthelaw7974The short hair was an issue but his rhythm playing was probably the bigger issue. George is a legendary soloist but he didn't have a great feel for rhythm guitar back then. (eventually he got really good though).
I heard this from someone who was in the room when it happened.
I don't care beast from the east was still a great album!!
Don contradicts himself. Up from the ashes wasn't a solo band. How's that Don,lol? No one from Dokken is in the band other then you. You hired all the new guys. You call all the shots. That's a solo band
That’s not what he said, he said because he had to legally put his first name on the album people thought it was a Don Dokken solo album instead of a Dokken album with his new band. Just like Chinese Democracy was still a Guns N’ Roses album even though it didn’t have any original members but it wasn’t an Axl Rose solo album.
Don sounds like he’s smoked 1 too many cigarettes! Explains his vocal range being gone!
what happened with George? Don sounds pissed.
7:20 interesting...Don sung at night by himself recording.
Don Dokken's album did poorly because George Lynch was not on it. It's kind of the same reason Phil Anselmo does not do great without Pantera. Or why DLR was not as popular with out Van Halen. It's why Van Halen 3 was not good. It's the group that makes it great. Not just the singer or the guitar player by themselves. Think of how many "supergroups" just weren't that great.
I like the album I have the album but it wasn't as good as a Dokken album. It was kind of half Dokken, without George there for someone imitating George. It didn't have the same bite
Dlr was just as popular as vh when "eat em and smile" was released.
hes either lying or his memory is shot...no way was there a show at the Starwood with VH-QR and Dokken.....Randys last 2 shows were October 1979 and VH were head lining arenas by then with their 2nd album released. Nobody knew those were Randys last 2 shows..there were no "farewell" shows. He hadnt even auditioned for Ozzy yet...that came right after those shows....amazing how the tales/lies get bigger and bigger as the years go by....
Rock vocal gods are like ex girlfriends you have to live off the memories 🥲
i completely feel for Don about being sued out of the right to his own name that is some BS. but at the same time complaining that people saw the album with Don Dokken as the title and not buying it because they thought it was a solo album, well it is a solo album its not the band Dokken.
The tire story stolen from Chris Holmes?
Nope two different times apparently Eddie had some bad tire problems lol
@@cheeseguy4998 When new strings are more important than new tires.
It’s a shame if these guys are slowly dying off. But you have to really take into account that the other rockers from the early 60s 70s have out lived them.
well, Cocaine is a hell of a drug
I'm starting to think Don Dokken thinks George Lynch is crazy.
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The contracts were always 4 ways??? hmmm...then I wonder why Don Dokken would insist in naming the band after him...that doesn't look "4 ways"
because he formed the band dumb ass
The band was formed by Don Dokken. The original album released on Carriere Records was called Don Dokken's "Breaking the Chains". Mick and George were hired guns for that version. They weren't even members of the band. When it was remixed with some different songs and a different cover a few years later in the USA. It was Dokken "Breaking the Chains". George and Mick were full members and partners by that time. Jeff wasn't even in the band when Breaking the Chains was released. He joined shortly after for the tour.
@@iceman2796 yeah but it wasn’t until under lock and key that the band achieved success
Have Another Cigarette Don.. How'd That Work Out For You ??