Closing arguments in Nicolae Miu’s Apple River stabbing trial

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  • @ricklong3260
    @ricklong3260 9 місяців тому +31

    All those kids should have not engaged calling him pedophile, raper , nothing happened to these kids? .they hit him pused him provoked him into.situation...welcomr to Wisconsin

  • @lilacross1241
    @lilacross1241 9 місяців тому +33

    Not guilty!

  • @dant.1028
    @dant.1028 9 місяців тому +23

    Not guilty, self-defense, the video shows it all.

  • @MsNotiM
    @MsNotiM 9 місяців тому +32

    NOT GUILTY!!!

    • @jeffro4kag206
      @jeffro4kag206 9 місяців тому

      Wrong again

    • @CookieB220
      @CookieB220 9 місяців тому

      @@jeffro4kag206 yes you are wrong!

  • @ToothFairy-i4k
    @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому +1

    Can’t believe he was charged with first degree murder. The way the comment section is I’m truly shocked it wasn’t a hung jury.

  • @pennybags9635
    @pennybags9635 9 місяців тому +6

    A public trial the judge had hidden a witness from

    • @StraightOutOfGeorgia
      @StraightOutOfGeorgia 9 місяців тому

      Yes, WTH? Made no sense to me either… Madison what a shit stirrer !!!

  • @yolandagaytan9045
    @yolandagaytan9045 9 місяців тому +5

    Defense attorney is really good. Amazing. No gilty

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому +1

      To put him on the stand was absolutely absurd huge mistake

  • @robertmckenzie8106
    @robertmckenzie8106 9 місяців тому +15

    poor guys life ruined cos of these bullys

    • @geechis8883
      @geechis8883 9 місяців тому +1

      Not guilty poor man

  • @myfairlady5050
    @myfairlady5050 9 місяців тому +3

    Nearly all those teens/young adults behaved in a heathenistic manner. They were nearly all untruthful on the stand. You would think that the death of their friend would have elicited some self- reflection. Nothing good can come from this situation or trial. The only good thing that could come from this is that the young adults are charged and taught a lesson in hopes that it will change the trajectory of their lives. Gen X and Millennials, we need to be better parents. We need to get our kids off their phones. We need to teach our kids that the world does not revolve around them. We must teach them responsibility, accountability and good character. Otherwise, you’re looking at the next generation of adults right here.

    • @vickivaughn3659
      @vickivaughn3659 9 місяців тому

      Agree!

    • @sandilane1405
      @sandilane1405 9 місяців тому

      respect! they need to learn respect! Imo he's not guilty ... what a sham. Is judge corrupt?

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      And that’s scary as hell

  • @danielbockmann883
    @danielbockmann883 9 місяців тому +22

    All those young men and women should be charged with assault! They could helped him find his phone instead of physically and mentally abusing him. It wasn't until they started surrounding him and pushing him around that he pulled out his knife. Classic self defense.

    • @lindadiles191
      @lindadiles191 9 місяців тому +3

      He fn lied when he was found by Police so hes a grown man he new what he was doin Hes a lieing murderer ok

    • @CrustyNightSock
      @CrustyNightSock 9 місяців тому

      @@lindadiles191 Your English teacher probably jumped off a bridge trying to grade your papers.

    • @boomerkingsley77
      @boomerkingsley77 9 місяців тому +1

      He pushed the girl first
      He also lunged out / chased to stab her
      He then stabbed a dude in the back trying to break up the fight

    • @marhee143g5
      @marhee143g5 9 місяців тому +2

      @@lindadiles191it’s spelled lying, not lieing.

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      @@lindadiles191he had just killed someone im sure he was nervous. He probably didn’t realize that this was self defense no offense he just doesn’t seem bright but it was self defense in some ways although the self defense in stabbing someone is something to be looked into
      I’ve said it everywhere: everyone in this case needs to be charged. Cannot believe these punk ass kids are getting off Scott free for assault, battery, threatening,bullying,slandering this guy.

  • @ToothFairy-i4k
    @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому +1

    Remember that Vang kid on the stand?
    : Yes I was smoking weed
    Prosecutor: you mean you were smoking marijuana
    Vang: Yes Please 😂😂😂😂

  • @tjmcdermott4046
    @tjmcdermott4046 8 місяців тому +1

    Judge is on the prosecution side they literally can build a story

  • @marksimmons3801
    @marksimmons3801 9 місяців тому +2

    when i saw him acting like he did not know what happened on the river as the cop was questioning him , was disgusting 😡

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому +1

      I think he was just scared, terrible to put that guy on the stand I think that ended any chance of not guilty

    • @leapinglaura7343
      @leapinglaura7343 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ToothFairy-i4k Exactly. He made an appalling witness. We never had to find that out!!

  • @StraightOutOfGeorgia
    @StraightOutOfGeorgia 9 місяців тому +7

    Not Guilty

  • @rojr.7638
    @rojr.7638 9 місяців тому +4

    Not guilty by my observations; however we’ll have to see how the jury handles it as they may become prejudice because of Nicolae’s ethnic background. Seen cases go sour in hick counties. Poor man and poor kid how should’ve never approached or heckled this elderly man. But it’s obvious all these kids were under the influence of alcohol and marijuana so the parents should be held accountable should they overturn this to a guilty verdict. Americas justice system is really blind⚖️

    • @vickivaughn3659
      @vickivaughn3659 9 місяців тому +1

      Agree! Totally disagree with the verdict from those spineless jurors

    • @michaelesteban178
      @michaelesteban178 9 місяців тому

      Did u watch the video he comes to them. Twice so either u didn’t watch or u don’t care

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      @@vickivaughn3659💯💯💯 I honestly think it’s because he took the stand, he really screwed himself. I’m sure he just wanted to come off as not guilty but saying you don’t remember a single thing makes you in fact look guilty

    • @jeffro4kag206
      @jeffro4kag206 9 місяців тому

      You know it's one thing to be liberal it's another thing to be stupid this is not a 20 something year old man like all you say is not guilty that's a 40 something man who should know better then to stab teenagers

    • @jeffro4kag206
      @jeffro4kag206 9 місяців тому

      @@vickivaughn3659 do you mean those honest patriotic tax paying citizens? The jury usually gets it right not 20 somethings who don't know s***

  • @felicitasnelson-gx5en
    @felicitasnelson-gx5en 9 місяців тому +6

    ÑOT GUILTY!!!! Those kid's behaviors got their friends stabbed and one killed!!!! It would be an injustice to convict this man!! 🥺🙏🙏

    • @chuckgunn1359
      @chuckgunn1359 9 місяців тому

      It's not illegal to be rude and vulgar. It is illegal to stab people. You cannot rule Law with pure emotion.....

    • @jeffro4kag206
      @jeffro4kag206 9 місяців тому

      You know all you people say not guilty you're probably 25 and under you have no clue how a 40 year old man is supposed to act

    • @gibsonlp1866
      @gibsonlp1866 9 місяців тому

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  • @myfairlady5050
    @myfairlady5050 9 місяців тому +3

    The prosecution is incompetent. Most of their case is emotion and bravado. The defense attorney is really good. He even made sure to address the false narrative parroted by the prosecutor about how Nick Mui could have walked away because he knows it will be mindlessly repeated in place of the evidence presented in trial ( Mr. Mui said he walked towards what he thought were adults away from the teens, and they followed him in that direction).

    • @jeffro4kag206
      @jeffro4kag206 9 місяців тому

      Ok then walk another way. I'm sorry but a normal 40 something year old man does not do what Nick did he sure will have plenty of time to think about it now

  • @stephanie6113
    @stephanie6113 9 місяців тому +23

    Not guilty. Self-defense

    • @lindadiles191
      @lindadiles191 9 місяців тому

      Hope it doesnt happen in your family , you have no respect to life, I think hes a goner and the team for the Children did a awesome life caring job your hateful!!!!!

    • @boomerkingsley77
      @boomerkingsley77 9 місяців тому +3

      Cant stab people in the back turned away from you and say "I felt scared"

    • @boomerkingsley77
      @boomerkingsley77 9 місяців тому

      "This girl shoved me so I had to take two steps forward and lunge to stab her to protect myself then go hide the knife and lie to the police"

    • @tomotoole5089
      @tomotoole5089 9 місяців тому

      @@boomerkingsley77Don’t start something your weak azz can not finish.

    • @stephanie6113
      @stephanie6113 9 місяців тому

      @@boomerkingsley77 who was stabbed in the back?

  • @IzeSkyy
    @IzeSkyy 9 місяців тому +1

    Older man should have just walked away. You can’t let name calling and jeering get under your skin to the point where you physically engage with the antagonists and exacerbate the situation. Jury got it right.

  • @lindadiles191
    @lindadiles191 9 місяців тому +6

    And his wife knows a lot about him why you think she divorced him

    • @stevendeleon3836
      @stevendeleon3836 9 місяців тому +1

      Finally was able to get away while he was gone lol prolly made out with the house vehicles everything made out like a bandit

    • @pantherinparadise9686
      @pantherinparadise9686 9 місяців тому +1

      The same reason most women divorce. Money, money, money.

    • @kristynlawson383
      @kristynlawson383 9 місяців тому +2

      On the stand, she said she still loves him. Maybe divorcing to get away from the financial drain this case is for them. Very sad.

    • @lizardhierophant8293
      @lizardhierophant8293 9 місяців тому +4

      They divorced to protect assets, but are still together. What is coming next is the civil suits. Same reason Rex Hummerman divorced his wife. She has everything in her name.

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      @@kristynlawson383can’t imagine the threats they received and her especially since I mean she can still receive them he’s in jail, bet she’s freaked out

  • @Love-bo3df
    @Love-bo3df 9 місяців тому +19

    Not guilty

  • @michaelesteban178
    @michaelesteban178 9 місяців тому +1

    2:06:22 this is all u have to see the knife in his hand before he gets hit he wanted to stab he grab his knife pulled it out before he hit the women in front of him

  • @Scott-et4kd
    @Scott-et4kd 8 місяців тому

    The jury viewed the case as "Our children against a pervert "

  • @furyofbongos
    @furyofbongos 9 місяців тому +3

    Worst court camera person ever.

  • @praisingirl
    @praisingirl 9 місяців тому +3

    He’s obviously had lots of practice lying. Either a huge manipulator , psychopath or has the most explosive temper. Maybe that’s why he had to talk his wife into even going on this trip. promised her it would be a nice fun day. Those days must be rare when Nicolae is around. divorced at least twice. He appeared entirely too emotionless on the stand for fear of showing his true self.

  • @ahitchcock6557
    @ahitchcock6557 9 місяців тому +5

    does the jury have the case yet? are they deliberating now? and NOT GUILTY

  • @jeffro4kag206
    @jeffro4kag206 9 місяців тому +7

    Twenty years ago Mui would've been fried.

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      And he was on first degree murder 🤮🙄

  • @leapinglaura7343
    @leapinglaura7343 8 місяців тому

    3:34:51 Interesting that they chose to hold these closings by the beach. Were the sounds of surf continuously crashing on the shore supposed to suggest the river setting, maybe?

  • @robertcoane9167
    @robertcoane9167 9 місяців тому +11

    👹The KIDS FROM HELL 🔥🔥🔥

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      Legit. Bunch of Trust Fund babies. Guarantee they go to an all guy school they just give those vibes off.

  • @Bow-j6c
    @Bow-j6c 9 місяців тому +4

    One punching a woman, 2 He knew and played with the knife before he used it, 3 He killed a human being, 4 He used it on 4 others, 5 He lied to cover it up ,GUILTY

    • @boomerkingsley77
      @boomerkingsley77 9 місяців тому

      He also took steps forward and lunged to stab the girl after she shoved him, and then immediately stabbed a dude in the back facing away from him for coming up and grabbing his shoulder and saying "stop it"

  • @barbaramorrissett9308
    @barbaramorrissett9308 9 місяців тому +3

    He could have walked away, he lied through his teeth, and "I can't remember" Guilty

    • @pantherinparadise9686
      @pantherinparadise9686 9 місяців тому

      Cops lie. He was just following their example.

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому +2

      Nervousness. Him on the stand ruined him.
      I was all for not guilty but now I just think everyone needs to be charged on some level.

  • @leapinglaura7343
    @leapinglaura7343 8 місяців тому

    The female and Tony, the guy in blue jeans, it was clearly wrong to knife them. But the other two males? He didn't so much as stab them, as they pushed themselves into his knife, we can see that happen. He fell back after both their rushes, he DIDN'T extend his arm.
    It's hard to believe the jury couldn't see the differences between these 4. But I do believe the prosecutor was excellent, while the defense was worse than useless. _I_ could do better, and I haven't had a day of law school.
    STEP 1: Do NOT put Nick on the stand, especially after seeing every single alleged victim lie their heads off, under oath. I would then ask the jury, if they're willing to commit perjury, what else are they capable of?
    And: WHY did they find it necessary to perjure themselves??

  • @kennethbrooks1239
    @kennethbrooks1239 9 місяців тому +5

    Not guilty.

  • @michaelesteban178
    @michaelesteban178 9 місяців тому +9

    2:06:22 he was threatening them he has not been hit at this point he is the aggressor.

    • @dant.1028
      @dant.1028 9 місяців тому +4

      He never threatened them. Why didn't they call the police?

    • @michaelesteban178
      @michaelesteban178 9 місяців тому +2

      @@dant.1028 if u pull a knife out in front of someone that’s a threat.

    • @michaelesteban178
      @michaelesteban178 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dant.1028 also why did they have to call the police, until he punch the women no one had touch him beside the women that stood between him and the group that he was arguing with, the group he ultimately fought with. Just watch the trial not bits and snippets of it. If you watch the full video of their altercation, you will see.

    • @boomerkingsley77
      @boomerkingsley77 9 місяців тому +1

      He stabbed a dude in the back trying to break up the fight lmao dude is so guilty

    • @ENFPerspectives
      @ENFPerspectives 9 місяців тому

      Troll

  • @Kristina-rs3pf
    @Kristina-rs3pf 9 місяців тому +4

    NOT GUILTY

  • @1truthse3ker
    @1truthse3ker 9 місяців тому +5

    He will probably get the Lesser charge, but still GUILTY 🧐
    Remember how he calmly walked away, disposed of the weapon, and then lied about it.
    This man has absolutely no remorse 🧐 he's a cold-blooded killer!

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      What was the lesser charge? Not first degree I’m assuming?

    • @1truthse3ker
      @1truthse3ker 9 місяців тому

      @StephanieJo219 he was charged with unintentional reckless homicide, instead of 1st degree manslaughter or intentional homicide

  • @dt7368
    @dt7368 9 місяців тому +1

    These cases are so boring I don't see how anyone stays awake. They are drawn out by asking same questions over and over just different wording. Just like they are doing right now. This is stupid. Words are twisted and no one knows what they are talking about.

    • @CrustyNightSock
      @CrustyNightSock 9 місяців тому +1

      lol true. Imagine being a juror and having to deal with these word salads coming from both sides and then listening to all these witnesses lie on the stand. A real cluster. Speaking of boring, even one of the jurors fell asleep and Anderson tried to dismiss her.

  • @Kevin-vt7se
    @Kevin-vt7se 9 місяців тому +3

    Not Guilty On All Charges

  • @tommydibella5728
    @tommydibella5728 4 місяці тому

    Don't f*** with people and you won't get stabbed

  • @tjmcdermott4046
    @tjmcdermott4046 8 місяців тому

    It’s not a stand ur ground state so u gotta run away and get hit in back if the head righttt my dad is that age and he can’t fight no teenager

  • @praisingirl
    @praisingirl 9 місяців тому +4

    Completely GUILTY!

  • @ToothFairy-i4k
    @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

    Did any of the girls take the stand? The ones who came over in the video?

    • @belleslettres354
      @belleslettres354 9 місяців тому

      Yeah, they did. Madison's testimony was off-camera though.

  • @praisingirl
    @praisingirl 9 місяців тому +1

    If Mr Miu was attacked by all those kids like he says, he would have surely had some sort of bruises, swelling or bleeding.

    • @guilhermedasilva9305
      @guilhermedasilva9305 9 місяців тому +2

      There is a whole video 😂 proving he was attacked, like he says 😂 and if you watched the trial and the evidence presented he did have bruising, pictures were shown of his bruises during trial, I hate people that talk and have no idea what they talking about, learn the facts before you speak on something

    • @guilhermedasilva9305
      @guilhermedasilva9305 9 місяців тому +1

      Watch the Trial entirety and come back and tell me he didn’t have any bruising, no matter the size of the bruise or how many he had a bruise is a bruise 🤷🏻

  • @ElizeLennox
    @ElizeLennox 9 місяців тому +3

    Guilty as charged!

  • @tjmcdermott4046
    @tjmcdermott4046 8 місяців тому

    They paint a picture and it’s what they want not the full truth.
    Let’s her the story freely with no bias questions let’s here the testimony like it is tho

  • @lindadiles191
    @lindadiles191 9 місяців тому +3

    Damn he started it and finished it!!!!! Dont you see he was in a fight with his fn self!

  • @bobbercam7127
    @bobbercam7127 9 місяців тому +4

    Guilty

  • @lindadiles191
    @lindadiles191 9 місяців тому +2

    Isnt that knife illegal in size to carry, GUILTY OF PREMEDITATED MURDER, HE STARTED IT AND FINISHED IT!.

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      PREMEDITATED MURDER are you watching the same trial?

  • @ohreallyeliza
    @ohreallyeliza 9 місяців тому +2

    This prosecutor is terrible. I really hope they get a conviction bc that guy is a psycho. But wow they need better lawyers working for the state.

    • @boomerkingsley77
      @boomerkingsley77 9 місяців тому +1

      He might get off because the prosecutors are ignoring obvious parts like he stabbed a dude in the back

  • @t.d108
    @t.d108 9 місяців тому +2

    She “would have been scared shitless” IF what Miu told her was true. HIS story was COMPLETELY FALSE! Miu lied and said they pulled a knife on him - that he took away. And then stabbed 5 people??!!

  • @chuckgunn1359
    @chuckgunn1359 9 місяців тому

    The main points. Nic grabs tubes. Girl touches Nic. Nic punches girl. Dante punches Nic. Somebody slaps Nic. Aj pushes Nic's back, gets stabbed. Nic gets up
    and stabs Rhylie. Nic turns to Tony, stabs him twice. Isaac shoves Nic, gets stabbed. Nic stabs Dante. Nic walks away. Nic started both aggressions by grabbing
    tubes and punching girl. He stabs two people who never posed threat. He stabbed 5 people only after he hit the girl. At no time did boys threaten Nic with violence.
    Rude and vulgar? Absolutely. But never did they pose a threat of violence. Everything changed the moment Nic punches girl and starts the assault. Nic is at fault.
    It's that easy.

    • @vickivaughn3659
      @vickivaughn3659 9 місяців тому +1

      So punching and pushing him down wasnt violent??? What world do you live in!!! He is NOT guilty, those kids are tho for sure!

    • @ToothFairy-i4k
      @ToothFairy-i4k 9 місяців тому

      @@vickivaughn3659& won’t get convicted of a thing. What a WORLD! How small is this city that this happened in? Not many jurors to pick from im guessing?

  • @stevendeleon3836
    @stevendeleon3836 9 місяців тому

    Shen-miu😂

  • @robertcoane9167
    @robertcoane9167 9 місяців тому

    100

  • @michaelesteban178
    @michaelesteban178 9 місяців тому +6

    Guilty he walked over to the kids, he touch them first, he lied and try to run from the scene he got rid of evidence, he lied and told a story that did not happen to try and support his version and decisions, he hit that women first that’s wat start the fighting, he’s grown ass man my kids, no better not to engage with somebody that’s screaming or saying things to you, he took out and open the knife before anything happen so he started the violence. U can’t approach, touch punch, then say I’m scared not the way the law or the world works. This point that the teens were drinking is stupid we have all drank under age, if u haven’t u probably were a really good teen and stayed away from party’s and outings with friends, let’s not forget he was also drinking which 100% fueled his actions. He got that courage juice in him, that’s why he went up to the kids that were talking shit.

    • @michaelesteban178
      @michaelesteban178 9 місяців тому

      Sorry I missed that last person he stab he walk to after 4 other people have been stab he walks to him and stabs his chest, he walks to this person to stab him, he already had a person from his group and went to someone to stab him

    • @Love-bo3df
      @Love-bo3df 9 місяців тому +6

      Actually the blond haired girl pushed him first, not the other way around.

    • @kao856
      @kao856 9 місяців тому

      That blonde chick should’ve never got physical with him first. Go get your eyes checked you fool

    • @CrustyNightSock
      @CrustyNightSock 9 місяців тому +3

      The "kids" were 17-24. Settle down on the kid stuff. Also, drunk, which is illegal for the majority of them who were under 21. Also, high on weed, which is also illegal in Wisconsin. They were already breaking multiple laws before Miu came into their view. Walking over to the "kids" is not aggression. He was touched first in an aggressive manner. Self-defense has nothing to do with being a grown man. Tons of flaws in your logic, dudemanbroguy. Instead of using feelings, look at the facts.

    • @dant.1028
      @dant.1028 9 місяців тому +3

      No, the lead investigator saw no sign she was hit. He didn't take out the knife until the began assaulting him. He was elderly and surrounded by 13 grown women and men.

  • @marymargaretaguilar3578
    @marymargaretaguilar3578 9 місяців тому +10

    NOT GUILTY!

    • @jeffro4kag206
      @jeffro4kag206 9 місяців тому

      Wrong again fortunately the jury usually gets it right because it's usually made up of decent honest patriotic Americans

  • @CookieB220
    @CookieB220 9 місяців тому +13

    Not guilty!

  • @melb1215
    @melb1215 9 місяців тому

    Not guilty

  • @Oldhatz
    @Oldhatz 9 місяців тому +11

    Not guilty!