So for what I've seen in the video to run the point motors you need a separate bus wires to the track wires. Or is it possible to connect through the sniffer? I'm confused as to how it lessons the amount of wiring?
Hi Beta - you don't need separate wiring to each point motor from each switch. You can connect all motors to the same two wire control circuit. If you wish, you can also connect iP digital motors to a DCC track bus. The "sniffer" generates a low-power accessory bus for those who want to take advantage of "bus" wiring but have DC layouts, or for those who wish to create a separate accessory bus. If you want to know more, please get in touch, visit our stand at a trade show or come visit us!
Hi. Just wondered if this can be used to operate TrainTech red/green signals? I have a micro layout with just the one point motor and two light signals, and operating these through my NCE PowerCab can be cumbersome. Thanks in advance
With the ADS units you cannot use the Alpha Sniffer to create a separate accessory bus because the ADS units draw too much power. However by powering the ADS units via the track bus, you can use the Alpha Central to control the point channels just by plugging it to an appropriate RJ12 port on either your Alpha box if you use one or alternatively into something like the second connector on an NCE panel. The Central acts as a dedicated set of twelve buttons pre set to change twelve accessory channels without needing to access the accessory control functions (which can be very longwinded!) on your handset or screen.
I really like the look of these for my new railway project. I have just taken delivery of six Cobalt ip motors. Sorry if it’s a silly question, but how do you “daisy chain” more point motors to the sniffer? Is it just a matter of tapping into the wires? Also, can one simply attach the wire from the frog to the appropriate connector on the Cobalt ip as normal? Happy Christmas Keith
Hello! Yes, you can connect over 100 Cobalt iP Digital motors to the sniffer - just take the bus wires from the sniffer and tap into the wires wherever you want a point motor! In terms of frog control, you would need to use SW2 on the point motor with inputs from your main track power into L and R and an output to the frog from C. Hope this helps! ^RB DCCconcepts
You say below, The "sniffer" generates a low-power accessory bus for those who want to take advantage of "bus" wiring but have DC layouts, or for those who wish to create a separate accessory bus. " So is this sniffer (for those using DCC) your solution to supplying a separate DC Bus which could then be used, say with the under the bench for say ESP® Wireless DCC Receiver Unit?
The sniffer creates a low power DCC bus which can be separate from your "track" bus. It can also interface with ESU ECoS or Roco Z21 systems using their "Sniffer Port".
I have a load of digital Ip motors on my layout. i can change them using my digitrax hand controller. I fail to see any benefit of this at all with a dcc layout.
But - if you had a DC layout and you didn't want all the switch wiring? Or if you didn't want to use your hand controller and wanted to physically switch your motors without having hundreds of wires?
Not sure what you mean by "any layout" in your video title... Any layout to me implies any type of turnout (slomotion, solenoid, bipolar, etc). This video does not address that. How are your decoders used with Kato Unitrack for example?
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this system is so easy to wire up and so easy to use ... thanks dcc concepts 👍👍
So for what I've seen in the video to run the point motors you need a separate bus wires to the track wires. Or is it possible to connect through the sniffer? I'm confused as to how it lessons the amount of wiring?
Hi Beta - you don't need separate wiring to each point motor from each switch. You can connect all motors to the same two wire control circuit. If you wish, you can also connect iP digital motors to a DCC track bus. The "sniffer" generates a low-power accessory bus for those who want to take advantage of "bus" wiring but have DC layouts, or for those who wish to create a separate accessory bus. If you want to know more, please get in touch, visit our stand at a trade show or come visit us!
Hi. Just wondered if this can be used to operate TrainTech red/green signals? I have a micro layout with just the one point motor and two light signals, and operating these through my NCE PowerCab can be cumbersome. Thanks in advance
can you also use this system with your Cobalt-SS Above-Board Point Motors?
Yes - you can!
I am using AD-8sx accessory decoder to control my solenoid points. What would I require to make this system work with these?
With the ADS units you cannot use the Alpha Sniffer to create a separate accessory bus because the ADS units draw too much power. However by powering the ADS units via the track bus, you can use the Alpha Central to control the point channels just by plugging it to an appropriate RJ12 port on either your Alpha box if you use one or alternatively into something like the second connector on an NCE panel. The Central acts as a dedicated set of twelve buttons pre set to change twelve accessory channels without needing to access the accessory control functions (which can be very longwinded!) on your handset or screen.
I really like the look of these for my new railway project.
I have just taken delivery of six Cobalt ip motors.
Sorry if it’s a silly question, but how do you “daisy chain” more point motors to the sniffer? Is it just a matter of tapping into the wires? Also, can one simply attach the wire from the frog to the appropriate connector on the Cobalt ip as normal?
Happy Christmas
Keith
Hello!
Yes, you can connect over 100 Cobalt iP Digital motors to the sniffer - just take the bus wires from the sniffer and tap into the wires wherever you want a point motor! In terms of frog control, you would need to use SW2 on the point motor with inputs from your main track power into L and R and an output to the frog from C. Hope this helps!
^RB DCCconcepts
@@richardbrighton7737 Thanks Richard, your advice is much appreciated.👍
Please will this work with any make of point motors?
This would work with any digital motors - the motor would need a DCC decoder incorporated for Alpha Central to control it.
You say below, The "sniffer" generates a low-power accessory bus for those who want to take advantage of "bus" wiring but have DC layouts, or for those who wish to create a separate accessory bus. " So is this sniffer (for those using DCC) your solution to supplying a separate DC Bus which could then be used, say with the under the bench for say ESP® Wireless DCC Receiver Unit?
The sniffer creates a low power DCC bus which can be separate from your "track" bus. It can also interface with ESU ECoS or Roco Z21 systems using their "Sniffer Port".
can you link 2 together because i have 20 points to switch ... thanks
Absolutely - the central comes with a link cable in the box :)
I have a load of digital Ip motors on my layout. i can change them using my digitrax hand controller. I fail to see any benefit of this at all with a dcc layout.
But - if you had a DC layout and you didn't want all the switch wiring? Or if you didn't want to use your hand controller and wanted to physically switch your motors without having hundreds of wires?
Not sure what you mean by "any layout" in your video title... Any layout to me implies any type of turnout (slomotion, solenoid, bipolar, etc). This video does not address that. How are your decoders used with Kato Unitrack for example?
If you want to use this system with Kato, then you can use our ADS decoders along with a Kato adapter.
lose the "music".....
I agree. Too many informative videos have annoying music going on. Very distracting.