Seeing how he sets the disks down is so painful
I treat my discs very very well, aside from these test ones... so I'll definitely agree with you that this hurts to watch without the context that I'll give here: I don't care about these discs, hence why I treat them like this. The Wii disc came from a seized up disc drive from a busted Wii I bought on ebay, and the GC game was an old video store rental disc that I bought at a thrift store for a dollar. They both read fine, but I'll never be able to scratch them more than they already have been.
The GameCube game is a dora shovelware game so it deserves to be treated badly
@@RyneMcKinney It's a pretty bad game. I tried actually playing it once to make sure the disc would properly read past the "start game" screen and had a bad time.
“Not right now I’m tired daddy”
The Wii: **littelally says that you can put a gc disc**
Disc drive: *You fool, you fell victim to one of the classic blunders!*
I think it's really interesting how little Nintendo mentioned the lack of backwards compatibility on the Family Edition Wii when it came out. I only recently found out about the lack of backwards compatibility (I know with the right setup it can work, but the out-of-the-box backwards compatibility experience is not there)
The only way to make it work is to switch disk drives between the wiis
Yep! That's absolutely correct. I did that right after I took this video, and now it works just fine. That should be pretty obvious though, because at that point I'm just only using RVL-001 (original launch model Wii) parts and not any of the RVL-101 (Wii Family Edition) parts. I've been in the Nintendo modding scene for a few years now, but somehow the detail that the RVL-101 disc drive cannot PHYSICALLY read the discs slipped past me. I thought it was just that they nixed the GC ports and called it a day. Turns out, the disc drives are actually quite different!! You learn something new every day :)
@@patrick19165it has also a firmware which is only read. Nothing can be done about it.
You made the right choice switching the gutts 100%
@@patrick19165 you got a video of the family edition with the original disk drive?
Somewhere, in the same land, where left socks, TV remotes, loose change, rings, and all lost and misplaced items, sits Wii GameCube hatch doors. I have seen tons of Wiis for sale, and 90% of them are missing the GC port door.
I consider the missing doors a conspiracy, much like Mcdonalds(though I haven't eaten there in years) ice cream machines are always broke when you want a cone.
But in all honesty, I have a Wii family editon, so no port door for me. How easy is it to break those silly little side doors off? It even costs more in some cases to get a Wii with the door still attached.
There basically is a conspiracy behind mcdonald's ice cream machines. It boils down to a deal between mcds and the company that makes the machines, where that specific model is made to show error codes that only a "qualified technician" can fix. In reality, they are very simple codes if you have the technician's manual. The company advertises they make like 80% of their profit from mantainance. Its disgusting. More here:
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I wish my Wii had the Gamecube ports. I had an extra but gave it to a friend but a part of me wishes I kept it because I realized too late that the one I gave to them had ports.
Imagine you have been saving money for Paper mario the Thousand-Year Door, for several year. And than, you just see this in your eyes 0:09.
This would be such a sad moment if this happened someone sooner.
They’d be trying to play this w-o a GameCube controller in the first place 😂.
I wonder why they removed the GameCube compatability later on when making new versions for the Wii.
The GameCube was not a very successful console in comparison and to this day many Wii owners didn't even realize GameCube compatibility was there. It was to save costs and remove a feature that Nintendo deemed, wasn't used as much.
This is likely the same reason why GameCube compatibility was omitted from the Wii U even though it was completely possible. Triple NATIVE backwards compatibility is very uncommon but Nintendo passed on it twice in the same generation (GBA VC on 3DS is native).
@@kitterbugThey could've easily got around this issue by advertising "With GameCube support!" on the box and potentially releasing Wii editions that come with a controller and a memory card.
I've noticed that Nintendo seem to give off this vibe that they're ashamed of the GameCube (the system itself or the games doesn't get referenced nearly as much as the N64 or Wii, and there were basically no GameCube games on the Wii U's virtual console. They don't get to be ashamed of the GameCube, because it's their own bloody fault the thing didn't sell well to begin with.
I forgot that CRTs made that high pitched whining noise, it’s quite relaxing tbh
Even the disc drive needs replacing at this point since the sled for the "gamecube" isn't included on the newer revisions of the wii disc drive after the RVL-001 model, once you put the same Drive from the RVL-001 motherboard then you can read gamecube games again
This makes me incredibly confused. The family edition shouldn’t have the GC ports soldered in at all even covered by the plate.
Correct. I've swapped old RVL-001 (launch edition Wii) motherboard into this case
The Wii sounds like an opera singer when you put a GameCube disc on it. something I don't get is, if Wii Family Edition is not compatible with GameCube THEN WHY THERE IS A GameCube disc on the Disc Channel?
i love that one of the feet is white
It's great isn't it? I've found it incredibly hard to find Blue Wiis. I have like 6 white Wiis for parts, so I just said "screw it, I'd rather have a Wii that doesn't rock back and forth rather than a Wii with a missing blue rubber foot." It truly does bother me to look at, but I'll never see it when it's set up in an OEM upright Wii cradle.
"Aww sweet! I've never tried this before!"
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"DORA? WHAT THE HELL?"
You switched the motherboards? the Nintendo Wiis motherboards?!
Bro, that wii started singing 💀
Fun fact it's just the drive not knowing what to do with it purely based off size, you can put a Gamecube disc in a 8cm to 12cm disc adapter (the ones often used to play CD singles in slot loading car CD players) and they'll boot right up.
Thank you for your comment! That is really interesting... can you link me a source to that? I'd love to learn more about this behavior and potentially reproduce it in a video. Thanks!
At least we can use gamecube controller
I have two original white Wii consoles, which are both GameCube compatible, but I can’t play on them because my personal Wii is in bad condition and the front cover is broken, the other one is in good condition but it doesn’t work, someone else that I know also had a backwards compatibility Wii which was red but their sibling broke it, then was replaced by a black Wii that does not have GameCube compatibility.
swap the disk drives over from a gamecube playable wii and it will work just fine
(Copied this response that I just typed for someone else since you had the same comment pretty much)
Yep! That's absolutely correct. I did that right after I took this video, and now it works just fine. That should be pretty obvious though, because at that point I'm just only using RVL-001 (original launch model Wii) parts and not any of the RVL1-1 (Wii Family Edition) parts. I've been in the Nintendo modding scene for a few years now, but somehow the detail that the RVL-101 disc drive cannot PHYSICALLY read the discs slipped past me. I thought it was just that they nixed the GC ports and called it a day. Turns out, the disc drives are actually quite different!! You learn something new every day :)
I wonder what happens if you swap the disc reader from the original Wii and put it in the Wii family edition (without swapping the motherboard)
The problem is that the DVD drive knows when it's a GameCube disc and just rejects it because. You will have to swap out the DVD drive to even play on GameCube games on the Wii.
Is that a Dora the Explorer GameCube game
Lol, yes it is. I use it as my test disc for GameCubes/Wiis because I don't care about damaging it.
the wii: what the hell is this? get me a better disc
the wii really said "fuck you no gamecube game for you" 💀
If you just put a disc drive from an earlier model in it it'll just run fine. some 101s have this drive. Good luck trying to play from the stock launcher on a 101 mobo without a controller
When I got my family edition Wii (I had 2 the og red and the black family ) I put sonic heroes in and it took the disc and i was able to boot the game up as well but i was highly disappointed when i realized there were no controller ports😤😤😤 idk how yall family edition ones weren't able to boot it maybe there was more than one family model , mine came bundled with new super mario bros. Wii
At first l was like, “well no shit it’ll work” but you only replaced the board not the disc drive lol good experiment.
It's strange that gamecube disc still shows in the disc channel even though you can't play gcn discs on the family edition.
I agree. I think that it was a lazy choice by Nintendo to not remove it.
@@patrick19165 it’s because they never removed the functionality, the disc drive is stopping it from playing the game. It was only until the wii u that it actually becomes impossible to play gamecube games without modding
I think the motherboard (I know you swapped it) with the OS on the chip shows the old non family edition disk channel hence GameCube disk is there (the Wii U I think uses the family edition disk channel which the Wii Mini also uses and wasn't only for Wii U Wii mode but I don't have a Wii Mini or Wii Family edition on me just a hunch) but obviously the family edition drive doesn't load due to well the parts/detection with the laser/drive firmware. At a guess with what they changed.
Still interesting to see when swapping parts what does and doesn't work.
I don't remember my Wii U sounding the same when putting a GameCube disk in our of curiosity (I never put wrong disks in consoles as I don't need to but as I know it didn't support it was curious how it would treat it) but it is hard to get out of the Wii U disk drive that's for sure so don't recommend doing it. It's possible without pulling the console apart just a little awkward how far it pushes the disk out visibly.
(assuming you don't like using controllers) there was no reason to swap the motherboard at all. stock 101s will have the normal disc channel with the GameCube icon. by the way, It's disc with a C! :D
also another note as a curious kid I put a GameCube disc in my Wii U as a kid and it did this too
its my understanding that. all wii's have gamecube software. some dont come with the controller ports or disc drive
You still can play via Nintendont.
Bro has a real gamecube
the disc drive is also different so that's why it won't take the disc
found this out the hard way.
got a backwards compatible Wii later on tho.
You don’t need to swap the motherboard. It reads discs fine if you have a swapped disc drive.
Why it ain’t let it in
It works completely fine if you mod the console.
You need to change the disc drive for one of the original wii
is it because the disc drive needs to be paired to the wii's motherboard first?
There's no pairing required with disc drives on the Wii, which is really convenient when repairing Wiis like I do from time to time. The Family Edition Wii (later model Wii) just has a different disc drive that is mechanically different. For some reason, it just can't accept miniDVDs (GameCube games). As someone who works as an electrical engineer making consumer products, my best guess is that it was a cost-cutting measure taken by Nintendo. That kind of thing happens all the time in the industry. The one thing that surprises me though, is that they found it reasonable to cut out the GameCube features on that version of Wii. Maybe their market data showed them that not many people were using the GameCube backwards compatibility, but I sure was using it a LOT when I was a kid. Anywho, I got a bit sidetracked, but I hope that answers your question.
It still does the same thing, it’s also the same thing that the Wii U does
@@patrick19165yeah, my parents had a backwards compatible wii and it got replaced by my Wii U because it got a pop tart to the disk drive (10 month old me did that) but I did find a GameCube game for it, put it in the Wii U and it just spit it out :/
Edit: apparently my parents got another wii after that, cus I found another one that was GameCube compatible In a box looking through some old games!
You gotta swap the disk drive aswell.
I made a Nintendo Wii U mini which is Wii compatible because Nintendo won't
Why it's not working when everything shows that it should work? (The menu, the controller ports on the console...)
I think this Wii is running a different type of firmware so it’s not running the basic main Wii stock it’s running like a custom version
Mechanically, the RVL-101 disc drive cannot properly accept GC discs. That was the point of this test. I put in an RVL-001 disc drive into it and it worked just fine.
Cool CRT
Thanks! I'm a huge fan of the tiny CRTs that were meant for portable use.
I put a game card in my wii u and the wii u went to sleep and did not wake back up, ever
0:50 they didn't even remove the ports?!
They did remove the ports, but the holes in the plastic shell remain. I just swapped in an older Wii motherboard.
What happen if I put some GC control ports in a mb of this Wii blue?
I think it would work, but it's a lot of effort. I ended up just putting all the internals of a white Wii inside the blue shell to make mine fully work.
@@patrick19165 I will trying it when I found a blue Wii.
Because i have a death GC ^^"
Swap the disc drive or i think theres a little metal tab you remove and itl work
Metal tab? I've never heard of that before. I'd love to try it if you could point me to where you found that info
cool
Wii Family Edition (Europe And Korean) RVL-101
But what if you only swap the disc drive?
I think I know what you're asking here. I think a launch edition RVL-001 disc drive paired with a Family Edition RVL-101 motherboard would work? There are no GameCube ports though, so that's a new issue you have to deal with once you've gotten past the disc drive compatibility issue. You could always solder the GameCube ports to an RVL-101 motherboard, but that's a lot of effort compared to just finding an RVL-001 motherboard (which is far more common than the RVL-101 anyways). I think the reason why I've had such a hard time finding the Family Edition Wiis (RVL-101) is because they were only sold from 2011-2014 as the second generation of the Wii. The original launch Wii (RVL-001) was sold from 2006-2013. I'm pretty sure every friend I had back in the late 2000's / early 2010's either had the white, black, or red RVL-001 Wii.
@@patrick19165 yeah, i know all wiis and wii based systems (wii u) can play GameCube games, would be curious tho if putting the rvl 001 drive in family edition shows GameCube support or not
@@Pokycraftgamer9After a bit of digging online, it seems like the answer is yes it should work. The limitation that prevents the Family Edition Wii from actually reading GameCube discs is physical limitation of the drive rather than a software limitation.
My "Black" wii in a nutshell:
Wii FE: not the gamecube disc..
Maybe it's faulty?
I don’t Like the Family Edition Wii.
Tbh the only good thing that came from it is the new light blue color
Devi cambiare il lettore e funziona
you swapping the disc drive with a regular one on a Wii family let's you play GC games
Yep! That's what I did in the end. Now my blue Wii has all older parts in it
Its acting the same as a wii u
Rejected CD
Big sus
You need to swap disc drive’s
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Me parece que tu Nintendo Wii,esta mala porque no lee los juegos de la misma consola Nintendo Wii,ni tampoco lee los juegos de Nintendo Game Cube,adiós y saludos desde Chile🇨🇱.
No has entendido el punto de este video, este video se trata de que pasaría si alguien intentará insertar un disco de GameCube en Una Wii Family con la placa madre de una Wii RVL-001 (el primer modelo), lo que pasa es que depende del lector de discos que uses leerá los discos de GameCube o no, y el solo cambió la placa madre, no el lector
Surprisingly enough, the Wii Family Edition can play GameCube games with Nintendont and a Wii U/Switch GameCube controller adapter. Nintendont allows you to launch discs, but I don't remember if it works or not. ISOs work for sure, though. I haven't owned a Wii Family Edition for many years.
@LordBacon235 It's like that, but you can play them with a USB/SD and a Traditional/Pro controller or even with the Nunchuck!
I have a family Wii edition and I can play any GameCube game with Nintendont perfectly
@@Dash120z Same, they look pretty good too for what they are!
I now have a Wii Mini, which has a disc lid.
The Wii is a GameCube on a hardware level. every single Wii console including the Wii U is natively backwards compatible. This cannot be omitted from the hardware.