The plot armor is insane, all the Jaegerists with anti titan weapons were wiped out by this tiny group without any casulties last season. Magath & Kieth died on their own terms smiling, in other words they were never under any real pressure.
@@alpha-sama1 out of hundreds??? That's no plot armor. Otherwise Erwin, marlo and most of the charge would've survived I think the only one who had plot armor was levi but is understandable...Isayama wife loved him and she said Isayama she would be mad if he killed him.
Honestly he technically should have won . The only thing that saved them was falco’s deus ex machina of becoming a flying titan on top of a jaw titan .
@@denyoellamcy8251 no amount of determination can save you from getting blown up behind a shifter or getting shot in the arm then holding onto to a boat WHILE DROWNING AND BLEEDING OUT of the determination was in aot Sasha wouldn’t have died but guess what she did theirfore meaning PLOT ARMOR stop glazing flock when he had more plot armor then Sasha
@@jyotirani8187 I stop you there. On the contrary, I always thought that there was an air of Erwin in Armin, not only physically but also as a strategist and in his ability to quickly divine and understand his enemy's plans. For example, I could tell you about the time when the exploration battalion was looking for Bertolt and Reiner on the run, it was Armin who had asked the troops to search the walls. They didn't understand why he asked them that but it seemed like Erwin thought Armin's plan was a good idea and right after it turns out that Armin was right. In the video showing this scene I had also seen a comment saying that Erwin and Armin were like father and son lol. It was also because of Armin if they managed to find that Annie was hiding behind the Female Titan. I can also mention the moment Armin made a plan to defeat Bertolt and his colossal titan when Jean thought they were all finished. Moreover, before saying farewell, when Hange named him Commandant, she spoke of the quality of commandant that is a mindset of continuously pursuing understanding, and that Armin was the most suitable person for this role. I'm sure these are the reasons the author replaced Erwin with Armin.
@@thescruffinator8830nah floch is too metal for that. even hange says "don't tell me you clung to the ship all the way here." and he comes into frame drenched too
@@krag3405 True, though there was only like a handful of shots, and like 3 of them hit pretty close together on the fuel tank, looks like he fired wildly to send them running for cover then put a few good shots into the fuel tank.
Dude is a facist warcriminal, willing to kill his own people to save ... who? Himself? In the end he was just too stubborn and brainwashed to realize the errors of his ways
@@cheese4825 But why? In the end he was completely right and Paradis was wiped off the face of the Earth in under 100 years. All because they stopped the Rumbling.
@@cheese4825 Fair enough. I found him to be as arrogant as any of the main cast who were equally willy nilly with laws and rules while also making sweeping decisions for the entire island without care of what the citizens wanted. The Yaegerists made up a majority of the military by the end and even the civilians supported them, especially after Eren's announcement on Rumble Radio.
FLOCH was rebelling 'against this cruel world' or in this case 'against the MCs' who are not afraid to die because they are main characters and superheroes with the biggest plot armor ever, Floch represents the people you don't know, the cannon fodder, and he had the courage to rebel and give his heart for the cause even when he knew it would cost him all.
Floch Is literally the character with most plot armor: he somehow survived to Erwin survival charge, he somehow survived during the start of the rumbling falling from the walls while They were crumbling, he somehow survived for hours in the water with a giant wound on His shoulder...please😂
Yeah the plot armor was so big, paradis and the entire world died anyways. I wonder how mentaly detached humans have become from their surroundings, but you never fail to amaze me.
@@aveloraine Do you want to die when you're tired? Hange in the manga seemed to use it as a excuse to kill herself, they did her death in the anime so much better But i can't help but think what else she could've done, had it not been for Floch's stupid ass showing up here, y'know? Lol
He stills care about Floch. That was his comrade, regardless of their current disagreement. In fact, Jean seemed closer to Floch than all of the other Alliance members.
@@saltator8565floch and jean are really similar, they join the military for selfish reasons. If jean had not cared about his friends so much he would've stayed in the wall. Their character developed when they experiencing the fear of titan for the first time that's why i dont understand why some people like jean but hate floch, maybe just because he's against their favorite characters.
Well Jean actually agreed with Floch and Eren until Hange used talk no jutsu. Only thing he didn't like was Floch executing people who disagreed with him, as it was completely unnecessary
what a fucking gigachad, he hung on the ship all the way to another country and almost ruined the whole operation hes like that one experienced player on a team of noobs
Bro had a bullet wound too, his unwavering determination and willpower for his people and what he believed was right is admirable, regardless of whether or not you agree with him.
At first i totally hated Floch. But then I understood he was only doing what he believed was right to protect paradise. He knew Eren killing the entire world would be a devil's doing, but if it mean saving eldians so be it.
>runs to certain death >lives >follows the will of his commander after he dies >agrees with genocide >leads a platoon to fight the best soldiers in paradis >gets shot into the water >lives >gets keelhauled for fifteen hours whilst bleeding out >lives >fires haywire shots into a crowd of engineers and manages to hit the fuel tank thrice >gets odm gear’d >dies >doesn’t elaborate
"The most precious possession you have in this world is your own people. And for this people, and for the sake of this people, we will struggle and fight, and never slacken, never tire, never lose courage, and never lose faith." - Floch Forster His spirit shall rise from the grave and the world will know he was right.
Floch didn't even really lose this fight, he was loyal to eren throughout all of season 4 and bought him more time. This guy had some of the biggest balls in the entire show
Man i love Floch, i don't agree with him but he's so perfectly written for his purpose, its as if not a single line about him was wasted at any moment in the story
Facts, unlike the people who seem to unironically support genocide and ignore the obvious message about the Yeagirists, I love Floch. One of the best-written characters in AoT.
he mostly just hid behind others tho. did we see him killing any of the titans that killed his comrade louise? no, that was keith shadis, who flotch had beat up just to 'prove a point'. did he take on the cart titan after it 'killed' jean? no, he tried to ask mikasa to kill it. he hid on the other side of the wall when his squad was fighting the cart titan atop the wall. he jumped off his horse when the other recruits were charging the beast titan. he didn't care about helping the scouts until after the revolution when they were the most respected group. he didn't care about helping eren until he realized eren was really powerful and flotch could gain power by sucking up to him. floch is just a coward and a social climber.
But he didn't actually change Eren's plan either way, it would've happened regardless. He also didn't stop the main characters here, they went on to fight Eren. Also after the rumbling does in fact destroy most of the world, Eldians still manage to fight with themselves in the future lol. You uh... didn't actually finish the show, huh?
@@onyourself3369 he couldn't change it because everything was planned Floch is a hero for paradise not because he changed things, he failed yes, but he did everything he could do to save Eldia and Paradise he was willing to sacrifice the entire world, himself, his comrades and everyone for Eldia, even after he was shot and fell in the sea, he did clung to the ship for a really long time to stop them also, how are you so sure that eldians of paradise fought each other? actually they all united after Floch's and Eren's death they got destroyed however by their real enemy, the entire world, peace was never an option the ones who really doomed paradise are the traitors, mikasa and armin, jean and connie not only they killed a lot of their comrades and fellows, they saved the outside world knowing that paradise would be destroyed in the future
@@Omar-um4nnEXACTLY! They never cared about saving paradis. They just wanted to see the outside world and forget all about the wars Marley started. Paradis became doomed.😭
I grew from loving mikasa to hating her and armin and the rest of them, imagine killing your friend who tried to save you and your country just to try to be heroes and in the end everybody who sacrificed was killed just for you to live happy live and the island still got restocked by the people you were saving
I think a lot of people misconceptualize the main point of this, it was war the world against the island, Eren isn't just some BAD guy that got up one day and said, I wanna kill everyone the world attacked them and they fought back simply as that, so yeah I'm on team 'genocide'
@@joer626I agree with him, Eren simply retaliated against the World, who was the enemy, Eren was simply right, the only way they could be free and happy was if they destroyed the rest of the world, negotiating with the rest of the world was impossible even before Eren's attack on Liberio, as the Yeagerists and even Hangi herself concluded, so the only option left was to just destroy the world
It was obvious before but this moment highlights why Floch is a good leader. How can a king expect his subjects to follow if he doesn’t lead. Floch was asking his subordinates even less than what he was willing to do. But that’s why he was able to garner support.
The ending showed that Floch was right from the start. In fact, watching this anime was a wonderful experience for me. When I watched the anime for the first time, I didn’t even notice Floch at first. A little later he began to irritate me, then I sincerely considered him a psychotic radical (he has the makings), but now... And now I sincerely consider him one of the most interesting characters in season 4. He did more for the plot in a few episodes than Mikasa did with her snotty scarf in the entire series. Floch went through hell, he had motivation, his views were built on the bones of friends, he became a radical, but at the same time he loved his country and his people. The funny thing is that there were no other people like this in Attack on Titan. The same Eren fought not for the people, but for several friends. Next comes Historia, who accepted the motivation to fight, but unfortunately Isayama simply “threw her out” of the plot, although she had enough ideological inclinations, and her special connection with Eren has not gone away... Well, all the other friends ended up being traitors , who put a bullet into their comrades, and in fact were guilty of the extermination of their own descendants in the distant future.
@@18yearoldcelYou can't expect peace after destroying 80 percent of the world, those who lost their families and friends will want revenge, just like Hannibal who wanted to destroy Rome.
Floch: "Please...Don't Do it...Everyone on the island will die... for what did we fought for the past Years?" Hange: "I know that you are in right...but i'll risk trying to trust a humanity that in it's history only had pretests for making wars and killing people....for sure they are not going to kill us in the future..." Floch: "This....isn't betrayal....this is.....Madneeeessss...." Floch: X__X
Floch and Paradise Island deserved to win tbh. They weren't the ones hellbent on complete eradication of their enemies only for shit their ancestors did.
@@BigBossIvan Thats not dropping balls lol. Thats just how story is supposed to be. Rumbling was portrayed as ultimate evilness all our main characters need to stop. If isayama let eren go full genocide, whats even the point of story lol.
@Jake Oriental But he did? Eren technically won, he got world reset he wanted and his friends are safe. Clearly his methods, while horrid, were the most effective.
Eren Kruger and Erwin Smith said basically the same thing to Griesha and the Survey Corps new recruits respectively. We owe it to our fallen comrades to keep on fighting
Sorry Floch, the hero of Eldians and bravest of all Yeagerists. You were worshipping a dumbass clown for too long and so you succumbed to death. Your intentions were right, although chaotic, but you shall be remembered as the greatest martyr after Erwin
Eren used Floch as his own personal bitch so he could do his 80% Plan and give Mikasa and Armin the life they deserved. I don't think Mikasa is jealous.
This genuinely feels like a side character rebelling against the story itself in a way; like there's absolutely zero chance Floch ever would have won in any capacity, yet he kept fighting and raging and pushing until he was dead.
This pretty much. There's something kind of sad about it on a meta level. Like there's no possible way he can win. His bullets simply will never hit these invincible people and his soldiers simply cannot scratch them. The story will not allow him to win and yet he tries to the bitter end. Kind of pathetic and admirably at the same time.
Seriously, the best character in the series. Meanwhile all of the main cast were doing the whole, "I know everyone going to die if I do this.... but plot... and plot says I have to and I lose my plot armor if I don't."
@@cheese4825 Next you're going to tell me that Robin is Batman's "meat rider" or that the justice league were simps for Superman. You realize when the entire plot revolves around a character with immense power, it would be weird for the side characters not to notice. Guess that also makes Erwin a meat rider for constantly saying that the missions depend on Erin because they did.
@@lookbehindyou852 tfw the Yeagerists conducting the rumbling are supposed to be an allegory for fascist/communist led genocides. Also tfw the entire point of this arc was to show neither side was in the right and were in fact wrong.
Kind of crazy to know that Floch's actions weren't totally fruitless: he DID manage to kill Hange because of this lol. That's kind of a W in the end. Floch died, but he ended up taking Hange with him to hell.
Even still- to fight for a cause that isn't resultant in genocide is the path of humanity. That is what they all believed. Even if thousands of years of peace gets trampled on in future generations due to the horrific actions of the past; genocide never is and never will be an answer. Even Eren has never actually tried looking for a way that is outside of anything he's seen from future memories- he despises slaves yet he was a slave to ensuring the future he saw happens exactly as he foresaw it. We shouldn't kill on the basis of the past. We shouldn't kill if it means taking the freedom of others. We shouldn't kill to eradicate if it means survival. All of these actions are purely baked in selfishness and never ends up right. Yeagerists were not right, if they followed Armin's plans, maybe things would've been different. But nobody would know because nothing has been tried- purely because Eren wanted freedom in his time, not for the future generations, which ultimately costed him.@@Solaris_Paradox
@@skyaabThe hatred Marley has for Paradise cannot be quenched They have held on to this hatred for thousands of years Was genocide a good choice. No It was the only choice Eren himself was forced to do it And eren interest was only to guarantee his friend's happiness After they died their children and grandchildren got slaughtered by marley
Maybe the hatred cannot be quenches in their generation...But you could argue they could FIGHT for it? But if peace for Paradis is all Eren wanted; for his friends to live long- He could've just used the rumbling to destroy the military outposts and supplies that took hundreds of years to build. But the main takeaway here is 2 things; THAT future would've been uncertain. And Eren WANTED TO flatten the earth. But regardless the point of the main squad is to just fight for their justice- their idea of peace. Genocide isn't the answer and it surely wasn't the only choice, but it was for Eren since he wanted Freedom on his terms, and not other's terms. @@naujuanauj
@@skyaab the thing is if he just used the rumbling to destroy military outpost The peace they would try to achieve is by using fear, simply saying "Have peace with us or we'll flatten your home and family" literally eren has the attack Titan power, able to see the future If someone with the ability to see the future suddenly chose his choice as genocide, you can pretty much guess who much worse the other options are
@MiniDNM incorrect. His ability to see a future was a future that was set in stone that he couldn't change. He said this himself. But one could argue Eren didn't try hard enough. In the end Eren is very selfish and selfless at the same time. Maybe fear is used, but so what? They can argue it was to defend themselves as they keep trying for peace. The problem is that any other future was not ever seen by Eren. He said he tried to do things differently, but the future he foresaw always came to be. But this immediately can be seen as a stupid lie since he himself said to Armin at the end that he "wanted to" he "wanted" to flatten everything. His stainted idea of freedom was there since birth. Genocide is something he chose under the idea of "peace". Its bad. It was a choice. That's what got him killed
and if they hadnt let the rumbling do that, only paradis would be alive and humanity would fucking die out due to the mass genocide that yall tryna defend
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "at peace"!!! Sure, cause there NEVER was a conflict inside the walls. With trigger happy fanatics in charge there will ALWAYS TILL THE END OF TIME be peace.
I hate that when Hange dies they show her soul among the old heroes that died when the plot was simpler, but doesn't show Floch among them, as if to hint Floch is a villain or belongs in hell... when: 1st the plot isn't as black and white as that; 2nd floch is the one following the first plan, the one everyone was into first... so basically your place in heaven depends on where in the timeline you died, not your purpose... I think they did floch dirty in that bittersweet dead Henge scene
@purpleemerald5299 doesn't a scene like this LITERALLY happen in the desert of ymir ? when zeke explains to eren that ymir only obeys sometimes? (back then zeke and eren were against each other...) meaning in astral plans it doesn't really matter their will at earth... or when Eren talks to Armin... sure Armin is upset at first but then he just sat down and talked
@@dunkwaffle4895 She didn't act like a leader is supposed to, she did nothing to prevent anything, she just went with whatever Bs the alliance decided to do, she betrayed Eldia, just like all of the main cast
@@abhishekbajpai-sc8oeYeah like in 20000 years later. And no body said the rest of the world survived by that point. The epilogue implies the whole was nuked.
Can't stress enough on just how much I hate the alliance. The fact that Hanji is acknowledging Floch's words yet she's willing to GAMBLE the fate of Paradise for the people who genocided then is actually insane. Erwin also used to gamble with his plans but he did it for the truth and for the sake of his people. Erwin would never agree with the alliance.
@purpleemerald5299you realize that when they said humanity they meant the people inside the walls because they were the only humanity left as far as they knew?
Hypocrisy-the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform Go read a dictionary. If anything, Floch and Eren are the true hypocrites. You can't initially stand against the genocide of your own people and then actively root for the genocide of others, even if it's the only solution you can think of, even if it concerns people close to you. Because you're going against what you believe just because of personal bias. "Rules for thee, but not for me"
@@willisstillhere8846 nah eren belief before becoming a cuck is everybody can try to take my freedom. Then i also can take yours. That's why he didn't stop his friend beside being a god. The Alliance was made of people who thought that Eren was wrong ( wich on a moralistic standpoint he his but not in a tactical sense ) and tried to stop him with the vague idea of doing the right thing. Wich it was barely grounded on some idea made by armin and they ended working with people who actively wanted their genocide and who in the manga got their genocide like 100 year latter by bombing the shit out of paradis
@@willisstillhere8846 That would be the case if there WAS a better option than the Rumbling, but there was none. Floch and Eren doesn’t want to kill 80% of humanity as much as anyone, but they had not choice.
@@willisstillhere8846 "You can't initially stand against the genocide of your own people and then actively root for the genocide of others". Yes... you can? They wanted to genocide his people. So he was going to genocide theirs. There is literally NO incosistency there. That's like saying "You can't be against a mugger in the street killing you if you kill him to defend yourself. You would be a hypocrite, murder is murder, so simply let him kill you".
@@willisstillhere8846 Ah, you're one of those people, are you? No solutions. Just moral grandstanding, thinking you're virtuous when you're actually just a mark. Literally the entire world declared war on Paradis at Willy Tybur's confab. Eren even waited until after the formal declaration before transforming and starting the violence. It would've been nice if they could have hashed it out with soldiers vs soldiers, followed by a peace treaty, but Paradis never had that option. It was either use the Rumbling, or get massacred because everyone else's irrational hatred would accept no other outcome.
It's called "survival skills". A soldier is taught how to survive in tough situations. Floch wasn't surrounded by death but the whole alliance was but escaped due to the writing of making the so-called heroes win
@@ryang0sling_11 literally one could make the exact same argument "alliance were the most elite of eldias scout regiment, not to mention have 2 Ackermanns, that's why they survived". Also no amount of "survival skills" will train you to hold onto a boat traveling across the ocean while critically injured. They don't teach that in soldier training lmfao. literally claiming alliance has plot armor but floch doesn't is copium. It's an anime, they both got it.
Not just this. Floch's entire existence resulted from him having the absolutely greatest Plot Armour in the entirety of AoT when he survived a full frontal change towards the Beast Titan without any major injuries. Honestly I don't get this whole argument about Plot Armour. AoT has always had plot armor like every other story. Almost every major character survived the finale of Season 2 when the scouts had no reason surviving that many Titans with no coverage. That was plot armor. Erwin survived having his Arm bitten off. That was plot armor. Everyone surviving the cave collapse at the end of Season 3 because Eren found his Deus Ex Hardening ability. Almost every major character surviving the end of Season 3 Part 2. Floch survived a full Frontal barrage of rocks from the Beast Titan. Reiner survived by shifting his consciousness to f*cking knees. Hange survived a Nuke because she fell into a well. Because we all know fire and heat can't travel down narrow tunnels. Armin survived being burned to a toast long enough to be revived. And just in general none of the scouts kicked the bucket in such a high stakes battle. But now all of a sudden people have an issue with Plot Armor.
Eren and Floch are the ones I truly support. Zeke was just a prideless bastard who wanted to "peacefully and indirectly" execute his own people simply because the world wanted it. In other words he was still unconsciously loyal to Marley. The Eldians from the alliance simply wanted to save the world who wanted to execute them even if it means all their people in their home would die as a result of their interference. Eren and Floch are true patriots who love their home and their people.
Zeke is doing it for the sake of tom ksaver and end the world hatred. Which I understand him alot Yeah true patriots for being genocidal killing the entire earth's human population childrens and family
@gokulrajv I know about the devastation that happens far far into the future, but there's no telling when that happens because the island was completely modernized even farther than the mainland was beforehand
@basedneutral1173 the alliance was literally massing in Marley to wipe out Paradis. Hange, Armin, Mikasa, Jean, Connie, and everyone else allied with them to try to stop the rumbling. They had no real reason to fight and nothing would go their way even if they won because if they win the alliance will just annihilate their home and all their people.
I would like to think that if eren manages to eradicate all humanity out of paradise, they would end up destroying each other due to political differences (jagerist vs non-jagerist), the war in the world of AoT will never disappear, the destruction of eldia is inevitable.
Floch the only one who thinks straight in the full series xD all others is just nonesense why they are now allied with the ones who killed them all this time against his all time friend just wtf
@@ignacioruiz-retegui6196 how do i explain in simple words... Lets say your whole Life was literally be afraid of being eaten alive by a titan, you find out those titans started killing because 3 idiots destroyed a wall because hundreds of km away there's a continent that thinks you are evil and demons, now one of your friends have the habilites to destroy em all and you would ally with the ones that fucked up your life instead of fixing your fucking island from the damage? Is lore nonsense
Part 4 when you see what happens to Paradis because of Cuckmin and his merry band of Uncle Toms will be satisfying. Floch and Eren's choices will be proven to be correct. The Eldian race has the right to exist and fight back.
Unfortunately the anime ending made it seem like Paradis was destroyed in some far distant future, and not just a few years after the rumbling like the manga version. Normies didn't get the message.
He’s so powerful that he almost broke through the plot armor
The plot armor is insane, all the Jaegerists with anti titan weapons were wiped out by this tiny group without any casulties last season. Magath & Kieth died on their own terms smiling, in other words they were never under any real pressure.
NBS!
@@acertainghost286 "never under any real pressure" *sbout to blow themselves up to stop the Yeagerists from following and sinking the ship
@@bennogb5069 side characters dont get plot armor
@@TheBlaze22b POV: Reiner would like to know your location
The man's determination to stop them at all cost despite all plot armors and everything.
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@@CoacoaPuffs dang since when this has 1k likes
The guy is voiced by Giorno's VA so ofc
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@@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 ay ay ay, that's what it was always meant to be.
Bruh, Floch is the only person without a plot shield in the hangar, yet he still commited to the cause, respect.
Yes Floch had no plot armor. It's not like Zeke bombarded his army with rocks and he was miraculously the only one to survive or anything
@@alpha-sama thats not plot armor tho
@@alpha-sama thats not plot armour. thats luck. Bro got lucky. and used his luck to survive time and time again.
@@alpha-sama1 out of hundreds??? That's no plot armor. Otherwise Erwin, marlo and most of the charge would've survived
I think the only one who had plot armor was levi but is understandable...Isayama wife loved him and she said Isayama she would be mad if he killed him.
@@efes47198Isayama doesn't have a wife lmao.
Floch takes on titans, highest elite members, gets sniped out of the air, clings to the ship... What a monster.
what a hero.
Honestly he technically should have won . The only thing that saved them was falco’s deus ex machina of becoming a flying titan on top of a jaw titan .
Plot armor
@arminkir9389*Determination*
@@denyoellamcy8251 no amount of determination can save you from getting blown up behind a shifter or getting shot in the arm then holding onto to a boat WHILE DROWNING AND BLEEDING OUT of the determination was in aot Sasha wouldn’t have died but guess what she did theirfore meaning PLOT ARMOR stop glazing flock when he had more plot armor then Sasha
Armin might have inherited Erwin's wits but Floch inherited Erwin's determination, badassery and courage.
Armin didn't inherit shit from erwin...
@@jyotirani8187 they ruined the whole show after erwin's death
@@ahmednayef8421 literally in fact armin devolved after erwins death. this man NEEDED someone smarter than him to be alive or he would crumble
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I stop you there. On the contrary, I always thought that there was an air of Erwin in Armin, not only physically but also as a strategist and in his ability to quickly divine and understand his enemy's plans.
For example, I could tell you about the time when the exploration battalion was looking for Bertolt and Reiner on the run, it was Armin who had asked the troops to search the walls. They didn't understand why he asked them that but it seemed like Erwin thought Armin's plan was a good idea and right after it turns out that Armin was right. In the video showing this scene I had also seen a comment saying that Erwin and Armin were like father and son lol.
It was also because of Armin if they managed to find that Annie was hiding behind the Female Titan. I can also mention the moment Armin made a plan to defeat Bertolt and his colossal titan when Jean thought they were all finished.
Moreover, before saying farewell, when Hange named him Commandant, she spoke of the quality of commandant that is a mindset of continuously pursuing understanding, and that Armin was the most suitable person for this role.
I'm sure these are the reasons the author replaced Erwin with Armin.
Nah Armin didn't lol. He's not half of what Erwin was.
His arm is broken, his body is wounded and his strength is all gone. But his will, it can't be stop.
Keep moving forward, Floch. Respect!!
got shot with a rifle and then clung to the ship in the freezing water all the way
@@fergus2004I assume he climbed onto the plane since it was being towed behind the boat.
@@thescruffinator8830nah floch is too metal for that. even hange says "don't tell me you clung to the ship all the way here." and he comes into frame drenched too
I almost said Moms spaghetti
Moving forward to WHAT ? Genocide ? 💀
He was not the smartest, not the strongest , not the fastest , but he had an unbounded will to move forward and fight
The ending kind of proves him to be the smartest (besides Erwin of course).
He was the smartest
idk man, the rest of the characters were basically brain dead
@uijnghhj402 why was he smarter than eren? his ideas were literally the same as erens
@@alexvaughan1013No it doesn't.
Can we just talk about how he didn’t try to kill any of his former comrades? His goal was only to disable the plane. True hero.
Well with his shooting it's hard to tell what he was trying to hit lol
@@krag3405 True, though there was only like a handful of shots, and like 3 of them hit pretty close together on the fuel tank, looks like he fired wildly to send them running for cover then put a few good shots into the fuel tank.
“True hero” such a true hero for trying to ensure the deaths of billions of innocent people for the sake of 1 island
@@glossyplane542well they grow up in that island, its their home and the only thing they knew until they found that the world wanna kill them wtf...
@@glossyplane542 The only thing wrong with the Rumbling is Eren couldn't do it twice.
Nothing but respect for floch. He truly fought for his people to the very end and gave absolutely everything he had.
Dude is a facist warcriminal, willing to kill his own people to save ... who? Himself? In the end he was just too stubborn and brainwashed to realize the errors of his ways
I hated floch.
@@cheese4825 But why? In the end he was completely right and Paradis was wiped off the face of the Earth in under 100 years. All because they stopped the Rumbling.
@@TuxedoKamina I think floch was right about supporting the rumbling. But he was cocky and arrogant. That got on my nerves.
@@cheese4825 Fair enough. I found him to be as arrogant as any of the main cast who were equally willy nilly with laws and rules while also making sweeping decisions for the entire island without care of what the citizens wanted.
The Yaegerists made up a majority of the military by the end and even the civilians supported them, especially after Eren's announcement on Rumble Radio.
FLOCH was rebelling 'against this cruel world' or in this case 'against the MCs' who are not afraid to die because they are main characters and superheroes with the biggest plot armor ever, Floch represents the people you don't know, the cannon fodder, and he had the courage to rebel and give his heart for the cause even when he knew it would cost him all.
Floch Is literally the character with most plot armor: he somehow survived to Erwin survival charge, he somehow survived during the start of the rumbling falling from the walls while They were crumbling, he somehow survived for hours in the water with a giant wound on His shoulder...please😂
@@bondrewd5935that’s because Floch is a plot device. He’s the opposing view to the main characters, even in S3. That’s the point of his character
Yeah the plot armor was so big, paradis and the entire world died anyways. I wonder how mentaly detached humans have become from their surroundings, but you never fail to amaze me.
The MC is Eren. To fight against the MC, means to be against the Rumbling.
@@Ealais76plot armor
Floch wasted zero time, got up..shot as many shots as possible before getting killed. Rip Floch. King Floch.
No monologue no nothing just straight to action, RIP the goat
I despise him so much for the fact that it's his fault Hange had to die lol
R.I.P the goated Erwin disciple, He is such a well written character and has the best development
@@Yoshiinite Welp, Hange has right to die lol, Remember when she says "I'm tired"? She deserves rest just let her be
@@aveloraine Do you want to die when you're tired? Hange in the manga seemed to use it as a excuse to kill herself, they did her death in the anime so much better
But i can't help but think what else she could've done, had it not been for Floch's stupid ass showing up here, y'know? Lol
I love the way Jean reacts to floch death
He stills care about Floch. That was his comrade, regardless of their current disagreement. In fact, Jean seemed closer to Floch than all of the other Alliance members.
@@saltator8565 yeah
@@saltator8565floch and jean are really similar, they join the military for selfish reasons. If jean had not cared about his friends so much he would've stayed in the wall. Their character developed when they experiencing the fear of titan for the first time that's why i dont understand why some people like jean but hate floch, maybe just because he's against their favorite characters.
Well Jean actually agreed with Floch and Eren until Hange used talk no jutsu. Only thing he didn't like was Floch executing people who disagreed with him, as it was completely unnecessary
He is the only decent one out of all.
Even in his death moment he was thinking about his people.He was the true patriot.
For some "dedicate your heart" was merely a catchy slogan, to others it was a sacred vow. RIP king.
bro literally didn't do a single thing until like episode 87
Unfortunately floch stained the famous Erwin's "Dedicate your heart" tho.
He's a paridisian patriot for sure, but he'll never be the true scout.
for real. real scouts help humanity, not just one country.@@RenoDW
@@RenoDW all the true scouts were killed by marleys dogs and traitors last one being eren and floch
@@capybaraandwatermelonenjoy8208 L take smh
what a fucking gigachad, he hung on the ship all the way to another country and almost ruined the whole operation
hes like that one experienced player on a team of noobs
Bro had a bullet wound too, his unwavering determination and willpower for his people and what he believed was right is admirable, regardless of whether or not you agree with him.
He is a god damned commando
chad
@@thekillerpill23are you talking to me?
frfr eren and floch carries so hard
At first i totally hated Floch.
But then I understood he was only doing what he believed was right to protect paradise. He knew Eren killing the entire world would be a devil's doing, but if it mean saving eldians so be it.
He tried his best to save us from the ending
@Lucas Brant he did indeed, and if we're lucky, he didn't die in vain, and we might get a different anime ending.
@@eternallight523 Don't get your hopes up.
@@eternallight523 Still high on copium I see.
@In Hoc Signo Vinces what should we do else, I'll never accept the shit we got.
And if it does become true, you'll be eating those words.
>runs to certain death
>lives
>follows the will of his commander after he dies
>agrees with genocide
>leads a platoon to fight the best soldiers in paradis
>gets shot into the water
>lives
>gets keelhauled for fifteen hours whilst bleeding out
>lives
>fires haywire shots into a crowd of engineers and manages to hit the fuel tank thrice
>gets odm gear’d
>dies
>doesn’t elaborate
"The most precious possession you have in this world is your own people. And for this people, and for the sake of this people, we will struggle and fight, and never slacken, never tire, never lose courage, and never lose faith." - Floch Forster
His spirit shall rise from the grave and the world will know he was right.
"Stop quoting shit I never said!" - Floch Forster
"Floch is my favourite character, I stan KIng Floch" ~ Albert Einstein
Sasageyo, HEIL, 👋
Nice username.
Now we know that Floch had Austrian in his DNA and that he was planning to become an painter
Floch didn't even really lose this fight, he was loyal to eren throughout all of season 4 and bought him more time. This guy had some of the biggest balls in the entire show
Nah, more like desperate.
Still gotta have big balls to prove you are desperate...@@jeom3808
I don't speak Japanese but through time and watching the sub I've recognized some words, and when floch actually said "only hope" it was chilling.
2:20 If i lose it all, slip and fall
lmao
Man i love Floch, i don't agree with him but he's so perfectly written for his purpose, its as if not a single line about him was wasted at any moment in the story
Facts, unlike the people who seem to unironically support genocide and ignore the obvious message about the Yeagirists, I love Floch. One of the best-written characters in AoT.
@@SobaOfPulaskiСогласна.Даже не смотря на то сколько экранного времени ему было дано Исаяма проделал с ним прекрасную работу👍
Exactly, when I say I love Floch people assume I’m “pro-rumbling”. Nah, I just like the fact he’s a solid character.
@@SobaOfPulaskidont matter
Finally, a good nuanced take on Floch that doesn't immediately advocate for genocide and fascism
He went from fodder to badass soldier. Respect to Floch
From lucky coward to a soldier that dedicated his heart
Floch was the only one with an actual spine here.
😢😢fr
This man truly gave everything for Elida. 'Dedicate your heart' and he did.
RIP Floch.
he mostly just hid behind others tho. did we see him killing any of the titans that killed his comrade louise? no, that was keith shadis, who flotch had beat up just to 'prove a point'. did he take on the cart titan after it 'killed' jean? no, he tried to ask mikasa to kill it. he hid on the other side of the wall when his squad was fighting the cart titan atop the wall. he jumped off his horse when the other recruits were charging the beast titan. he didn't care about helping the scouts until after the revolution when they were the most respected group. he didn't care about helping eren until he realized eren was really powerful and flotch could gain power by sucking up to him. floch is just a coward and a social climber.
But he didn't actually change Eren's plan either way, it would've happened regardless. He also didn't stop the main characters here, they went on to fight Eren.
Also after the rumbling does in fact destroy most of the world, Eldians still manage to fight with themselves in the future lol.
You uh... didn't actually finish the show, huh?
@@onyourself3369
he couldn't change it because everything was planned
Floch is a hero for paradise not because he changed things, he failed yes, but he did everything he could do to save Eldia and Paradise
he was willing to sacrifice the entire world, himself, his comrades and everyone for Eldia, even after he was shot and fell in the sea, he did clung to the ship for a really long time to stop them
also, how are you so sure that eldians of paradise fought each other? actually they all united after Floch's and Eren's death
they got destroyed however by their real enemy, the entire world, peace was never an option
the ones who really doomed paradise are the traitors, mikasa and armin, jean and connie
not only they killed a lot of their comrades and fellows, they saved the outside world knowing that paradise would be destroyed in the future
@@Omar-um4nnEXACTLY! They never cared about saving paradis. They just wanted to see the outside world and forget all about the wars Marley started. Paradis became doomed.😭
King Floch 👑 the true hero of Eldia
I love him so much :( goodbye sweet prince
we miss floch but bullets didn't 😥
FACTS
And it's cause of that damn plot armor 😭 😭 @@sidwtff
More like Eren's Bitch
Hange is like “yea I understand if we stop him we all die but I must be a cringe avenger!”
Bravo Yams /s
*a cringe traitor
@@stormbringer2840c o p e
With those shots Floch took down Hange's plot armor
nah is anyone gonna talk about that colossal titan 💀
ecxactly, that titan just crashed hus dead body
He is doing his best don’t be mean 🥲
Actually no, because nobody would like to talk about your mother.
RIP Floch your sacrifice for yeagerist will always be remember
S3: Floch is ass
S4: floch is goated
Had they listened to Floch, the world wouldn't have bombed paradise.
This is some Erwin badass shit right here. Floch is the KING!
floch has truly been vindicated, especially after the ending of AoT.
Floch died as a true soldier, fighting for his people
Bro Floch is my nr 1 Char in AOT now ,so loyal
Floch is the goat
I grew from loving mikasa to hating her and armin and the rest of them, imagine killing your friend who tried to save you and your country just to try to be heroes and in the end everybody who sacrificed was killed just for you to live happy live and the island still got restocked by the people you were saving
damn lets hate on them for tryna stop mass genocide and being fucking rational
Are you team genocide then? It’s hard to tell where your argument ends
I think a lot of people misconceptualize the main point of this, it was war the world against the island, Eren isn't just some BAD guy that got up one day and said, I wanna kill everyone the world attacked them and they fought back simply as that,
so yeah I'm on team 'genocide'
@@javelleharvey483 kewl
@@joer626I agree with him, Eren simply retaliated against the World, who was the enemy, Eren was simply right, the only way they could be free and happy was if they destroyed the rest of the world, negotiating with the rest of the world was impossible even before Eren's attack on Liberio, as the Yeagerists and even Hangi herself concluded, so the only option left was to just destroy the world
Never knew the side character with a weird cow-lick hair would end up becoming one of the important characters later on the series.
It was obvious before but this moment highlights why Floch is a good leader. How can a king expect his subjects to follow if he doesn’t lead.
Floch was asking his subordinates even less than what he was willing to do. But that’s why he was able to garner support.
And in the end every thing Floch said came true. RIP you absolute unit.
The ending showed that Floch was right from the start. In fact, watching this anime was a wonderful experience for me. When I watched the anime for the first time, I didn’t even notice Floch at first. A little later he began to irritate me, then I sincerely considered him a psychotic radical (he has the makings), but now... And now I sincerely consider him one of the most interesting characters in season 4. He did more for the plot in a few episodes than Mikasa did with her snotty scarf in the entire series. Floch went through hell, he had motivation, his views were built on the bones of friends, he became a radical, but at the same time he loved his country and his people. The funny thing is that there were no other people like this in Attack on Titan. The same Eren fought not for the people, but for several friends. Next comes Historia, who accepted the motivation to fight, but unfortunately Isayama simply “threw her out” of the plot, although she had enough ideological inclinations, and her special connection with Eren has not gone away... Well, all the other friends ended up being traitors , who put a bullet into their comrades, and in fact were guilty of the extermination of their own descendants in the distant future.
Uh? The ending only showed that wars are inevitable, the ending is 20000 years after the last episode
@@18yearoldcelYou can't expect peace after destroying 80 percent of the world, those who lost their families and friends will want revenge, just like Hannibal who wanted to destroy Rome.
@@Solaris_Paradox there Will never be peace, thats the point
@@18yearoldceland that’s a problem
@@18yearoldcelno thats not the point. You are simply shitting with your mouth
Floch: "Please...Don't Do it...Everyone on the island will die... for what did we fought for the past Years?"
Hange: "I know that you are in right...but i'll risk trying to trust a humanity that in it's history only had pretests for making wars and killing people....for sure they are not going to kill us in the future..."
Floch: "This....isn't betrayal....this is.....Madneeeessss...."
Floch: X__X
XD
real shit
@@flochforster7864 floch-sempai... I've Always knew that' you are the true King of Eldia's Empire...your Lost Is One of the greatest of Humanity
😢😢😢😢
@@LaTanaDelDragocringe
Crazy seeing so much respect for Floch, I thought he was super insufferable watching the anime
Rest in peace, my king
Floch and Paradise Island deserved to win tbh. They weren't the ones hellbent on complete eradication of their enemies only for shit their ancestors did.
Well too bad, bozos failed. Enjoy the carpet bombing.
Neither was 90% of the people they want to kill
Exactly right. Isayama just dropped the ball completely for the ending, self admitted too.
@@BigBossIvan Thats not dropping balls lol.
Thats just how story is supposed to be. Rumbling was portrayed as ultimate evilness all our main characters need to stop.
If isayama let eren go full genocide, whats even the point of story lol.
@Jake Oriental But he did? Eren technically won, he got world reset he wanted and his friends are safe. Clearly his methods, while horrid, were the most effective.
King floch never stops fighting till the end 🫡
Eren Kruger and Erwin Smith said basically the same thing to Griesha and the Survey Corps new recruits respectively. We owe it to our fallen comrades to keep on fighting
Floch died the same way he debuted in the show. Coming out of f**king nowhere.
only man who actually cared about eldia
0:32 Mikasa shooting a grappling hook into someone's throat and gives a surprised pikachu face after 🤣
That b*tch pisses me off😅
More like she's shocked he was still alive all this while
Like everybody else
Duh
Floch and Gabi had serious character development
i don't care what anyone says about floch, he showed some real goggins energy with that determination
Floch is the true warrior. He fight at till his end and tried so hard🥲
He died trying to save us from that god-awful ending. Thank you, Floch-san
FLOCH DESERVED TO LIVE DAWG
True, he deserved to live than Mikasa
@@aveloraine Exactly!
@@aveloraine Good joke
@@wadaahal-rifai8165 Everything is good except for jokes
Floch was right about everything. May the traitors burn in excrement in hell for all eternity.
Floch couldn’t even have a nice place to put his body on
I don't think anyone does at this point.
Sorry Floch, the hero of Eldians and bravest of all Yeagerists. You were worshipping a dumbass clown for too long and so you succumbed to death. Your intentions were right, although chaotic, but you shall be remembered as the greatest martyr after Erwin
our devils are our only hope
- Floch
I think Mikasa is just jealous of Floch because Eren told him his rumbling plan.
No shes not
Eren used Floch as his own personal bitch so he could do his 80% Plan and give Mikasa and Armin the life they deserved.
I don't think Mikasa is jealous.
@@kingkiller5325his plan was always 100% not 80
@@gamingparadise3390 Nah his plan was 80%.
@@kingkiller5325Nah he wanted to do 100% but was destined to be stopped at 80%, he even admits as much to Armin in their final conversation.
This genuinely feels like a side character rebelling against the story itself in a way; like there's absolutely zero chance Floch ever would have won in any capacity, yet he kept fighting and raging and pushing until he was dead.
This pretty much. There's something kind of sad about it on a meta level. Like there's no possible way he can win. His bullets simply will never hit these invincible people and his soldiers simply cannot scratch them. The story will not allow him to win and yet he tries to the bitter end. Kind of pathetic and admirably at the same time.
That's what it means to dedicate your heart. Floch understood the assignment. Pity his clownish comrades betrayed their homeland.
Effect of erwins "MY SOLDIERS RAGE, MY SOLDIERS FIGHT" speech
Appreciation for the animators of MAPPA who concentrated on the pupil slight dilation when Floch was dying.
This guy wasnt even in the top 10 main characters of the story and easily became my favorite in just one season lmao rip Floch
2:19 if I lose it all, slip and fall. Will you laugh at me?
Reiner killed mikasa family but she doesnt instantly kill him
Floch trying to save them but kills him instantly
😂literally she was the first to slash him and Bert and since then she could barely reach him
And Floch was shooting to kill ALL in that hangar
😂😂
3 months later and now you are successful in youtube
i hope u remember this comment of urs from this video
yeh i dont get it why people love eren and hate floch
comperd to ren he did nothing
The most underrated character
The 2 colosall titans Sliding in the mountain😂😂
I m always on Floch and Eren side.... After they stop rumbling war still didnt stop
Seriously, the best character in the series.
Meanwhile all of the main cast were doing the whole, "I know everyone going to die if I do this.... but plot... and plot says I have to and I lose my plot armor if I don't."
Flochsucker
I personally hated him. Biggest eren meatrider
@@cheese4825 based, call fans like this Flochsuckers
@@cheese4825 Next you're going to tell me that Robin is Batman's "meat rider" or that the justice league were simps for Superman.
You realize when the entire plot revolves around a character with immense power, it would be weird for the side characters not to notice. Guess that also makes Erwin a meat rider for constantly saying that the missions depend on Erin because they did.
@@thenecromancer8805 big baby Flöçhśûčkër reported my comments LMFAO
Jaegerist supporters >>>>>> Non Jaegerist supporters
REAL
FACTSSSS.
Those who don't support global genocide >>>>> Those who support genocide
@@SobaOfPulaski Those who want to protect Paradis >>>>>>>>>> Those who don't want to protect Paradis
@@lookbehindyou852 tfw the Yeagerists conducting the rumbling are supposed to be an allegory for fascist/communist led genocides.
Also tfw the entire point of this arc was to show neither side was in the right and were in fact wrong.
Kind of crazy to know that Floch's actions weren't totally fruitless: he DID manage to kill Hange because of this lol. That's kind of a W in the end. Floch died, but he ended up taking Hange with him to hell.
Even still- to fight for a cause that isn't resultant in genocide is the path of humanity. That is what they all believed. Even if thousands of years of peace gets trampled on in future generations due to the horrific actions of the past; genocide never is and never will be an answer. Even Eren has never actually tried looking for a way that is outside of anything he's seen from future memories- he despises slaves yet he was a slave to ensuring the future he saw happens exactly as he foresaw it.
We shouldn't kill on the basis of the past.
We shouldn't kill if it means taking the freedom of others.
We shouldn't kill to eradicate if it means survival.
All of these actions are purely baked in selfishness and never ends up right.
Yeagerists were not right, if they followed Armin's plans, maybe things would've been different. But nobody would know because nothing has been tried- purely because Eren wanted freedom in his time, not for the future generations, which ultimately costed him.@@Solaris_Paradox
@@skyaabThe hatred Marley has for Paradise cannot be quenched
They have held on to this hatred for thousands of years
Was genocide a good choice. No
It was the only choice
Eren himself was forced to do it
And eren interest was only to guarantee his friend's happiness
After they died their children and grandchildren got slaughtered by marley
Maybe the hatred cannot be quenches in their generation...But you could argue they could FIGHT for it? But if peace for Paradis is all Eren wanted; for his friends to live long- He could've just used the rumbling to destroy the military outposts and supplies that took hundreds of years to build. But the main takeaway here is 2 things;
THAT future would've been uncertain.
And Eren WANTED TO flatten the earth.
But regardless the point of the main squad is to just fight for their justice- their idea of peace. Genocide isn't the answer and it surely wasn't the only choice, but it was for Eren since he wanted Freedom on his terms, and not other's terms.
@@naujuanauj
@@skyaab the thing is if he just used the rumbling to destroy military outpost
The peace they would try to achieve is by using fear, simply saying "Have peace with us or we'll flatten your home and family"
literally eren has the attack Titan power, able to see the future
If someone with the ability to see the future suddenly chose his choice as genocide, you can pretty much guess who much worse the other options are
@MiniDNM incorrect. His ability to see a future was a future that was set in stone that he couldn't change. He said this himself.
But one could argue Eren didn't try hard enough. In the end Eren is very selfish and selfless at the same time.
Maybe fear is used, but so what? They can argue it was to defend themselves as they keep trying for peace. The problem is that any other future was not ever seen by Eren. He said he tried to do things differently, but the future he foresaw always came to be. But this immediately can be seen as a stupid lie since he himself said to Armin at the end that he "wanted to" he "wanted" to flatten everything.
His stainted idea of freedom was there since birth. Genocide is something he chose under the idea of "peace". Its bad. It was a choice. That's what got him killed
And in the end... Floch was right.
If they had let the rumbling do the work, the island would've been at peace.
Last panel in manga.. Make me cry..useless struggle to end Eren.. But same shit is happening again
and if they hadnt let the rumbling do that, only paradis would be alive and humanity would fucking die out due to the mass genocide that yall tryna defend
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "at peace"!!! Sure, cause there NEVER was a conflict inside the walls. With trigger happy fanatics in charge there will ALWAYS TILL THE END OF TIME be peace.
@@FushiguroTojl There would still be 100's of eldians the eldians did lose alot of people but trust me they have enough to repopulate
Nah they would've started a civil war
Commander Erwin Smith is proud of you soldier.
They should have listened to me...
I mean....at the end he was right but he was way too harsh about it
@@krysert4552are you a woman?
@@bluechains3452 why?
@@krysert4552 because of your comment
@@bluechains3452 he's probably a redditor not a woman lol
I hate that when Hange dies they show her soul among the old heroes that died when the plot was simpler, but doesn't show Floch among them, as if to hint Floch is a villain or belongs in hell... when: 1st the plot isn't as black and white as that; 2nd floch is the one following the first plan, the one everyone was into first... so basically your place in heaven depends on where in the timeline you died, not your purpose... I think they did floch dirty in that bittersweet dead Henge scene
@purpleemerald5299 doesn't a scene like this LITERALLY happen in the desert of ymir ? when zeke explains to eren that ymir only obeys sometimes? (back then zeke and eren were against each other...) meaning in astral plans it doesn't really matter their will at earth... or when Eren talks to Armin... sure Armin is upset at first but then he just sat down and talked
the fact that this scene leads to the most tearjerking and sorrowful death scene in the AoT universe is mindblowing.
You mean Hange? I was done with her by this point. She was right about one thing : Erwin chose the wrong successor.
@@Conan_the_Basedwtf did hange do to you for you to hate like that bro what the hell💀
@@dunkwaffle4895 She didn't act like a leader is supposed to, she did nothing to prevent anything, she just went with whatever Bs the alliance decided to do, she betrayed Eldia, just like all of the main cast
Floch's motivation: The island's safety
Hange's motivation: she cant give up because no 🤡
Midkasa motivation - eren 😭
@@Mercury7209motivated to kill ereh
She died for her beliefs too, though? That belief being "maybe we shouldn't kill the entire planet"
She believed that peace will be attained not today but someday without killing innocents.
@@chrollolucilfer4392she believed wrong
RIP Floch, he was right all along.
Genocide isn’t right haha
@@natedawg1007not genocide, but he did said that island won't survive if the rumbling is stopped, which did happened.
@@natedawg1007 It was self defense.
@@volpe04 whether the rumbling happened or not, the island would be in trouble!
@@abhishekbajpai-sc8oeYeah like in 20000 years later. And no body said the rest of the world survived by that point. The epilogue implies the whole was nuked.
Can't stress enough on just how much I hate the alliance. The fact that Hanji is acknowledging Floch's words yet she's willing to GAMBLE the fate of Paradise for the people who genocided then is actually insane. Erwin also used to gamble with his plans but he did it for the truth and for the sake of his people. Erwin would never agree with the alliance.
But when hanji's after death scene they all say "you did it right hanji". Which is confuse me about how to feel about erwin.
@@t.giray28That's just some nonsense that Hange envisioned. Truthfully Erwin never would have supported the Scouts after he found the truth.
@purpleemerald5299 but they would like to kill all paradise island. Aren't they enemies, if they don't fight they will die?
@purpleemerald5299you realize that when they said humanity they meant the people inside the walls because they were the only humanity left as far as they knew?
Floch is genuinely a good character and I appreciate his involvement after Erwin's death and onwards.
best character from s4
Agreed with my whole heart
Took the reigns for best character after Erwin died
The only characters in this anime who had the will to move forward were Eren, Erwin and Floch.
Floch... the last hero against the alliance of plot armor. We will never forget you against those hypocrites
Hypocrisy-the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform
Go read a dictionary. If anything, Floch and Eren are the true hypocrites. You can't initially stand against the genocide of your own people and then actively root for the genocide of others, even if it's the only solution you can think of, even if it concerns people close to you. Because you're going against what you believe just because of personal bias. "Rules for thee, but not for me"
@@willisstillhere8846 nah eren belief before becoming a cuck is everybody can try to take my freedom. Then i also can take yours. That's why he didn't stop his friend beside being a god. The Alliance was made of people who thought that Eren was wrong ( wich on a moralistic standpoint he his but not in a tactical sense ) and tried to stop him with the vague idea of doing the right thing. Wich it was barely grounded on some idea made by armin and they ended working with people who actively wanted their genocide and who in the manga got their genocide like 100 year latter by bombing the shit out of paradis
@@willisstillhere8846
That would be the case if there WAS a better option than the Rumbling, but there was none. Floch and Eren doesn’t want to kill 80% of humanity as much as anyone, but they had not choice.
@@willisstillhere8846 "You can't initially stand against the genocide of your own people and then actively root for the genocide of others". Yes... you can? They wanted to genocide his people. So he was going to genocide theirs. There is literally NO incosistency there.
That's like saying "You can't be against a mugger in the street killing you if you kill him to defend yourself. You would be a hypocrite, murder is murder, so simply let him kill you".
@@willisstillhere8846 Ah, you're one of those people, are you? No solutions. Just moral grandstanding, thinking you're virtuous when you're actually just a mark.
Literally the entire world declared war on Paradis at Willy Tybur's confab. Eren even waited until after the formal declaration before transforming and starting the violence. It would've been nice if they could have hashed it out with soldiers vs soldiers, followed by a peace treaty, but Paradis never had that option. It was either use the Rumbling, or get massacred because everyone else's irrational hatred would accept no other outcome.
Floch called himself a coward, but in the end he died like a samurai. Fighting to the bitter end for "his lord".
he is the king fighting for his country
It must sting his haters that the GOAT was proven correct. Lol.
King Floch at top!
Lmfao everyone saying floch doesnt have plot armor, when he somehow survived and held onto the boat the whole voyage. Yall are on some biased copium.
It's called "survival skills". A soldier is taught how to survive in tough situations. Floch wasn't surrounded by death but the whole alliance was but escaped due to the writing of making the so-called heroes win
@@ryang0sling_11 where do you get such amount of copium ? I want some as well.
@@ryang0sling_11 literally one could make the exact same argument "alliance were the most elite of eldias scout regiment, not to mention have 2 Ackermanns, that's why they survived". Also no amount of "survival skills" will train you to hold onto a boat traveling across the ocean while critically injured. They don't teach that in soldier training lmfao. literally claiming alliance has plot armor but floch doesn't is copium. It's an anime, they both got it.
Not just this. Floch's entire existence resulted from him having the absolutely greatest Plot Armour in the entirety of AoT when he survived a full frontal change towards the Beast Titan without any major injuries.
Honestly I don't get this whole argument about Plot Armour.
AoT has always had plot armor like every other story.
Almost every major character survived the finale of Season 2 when the scouts had no reason surviving that many Titans with no coverage. That was plot armor.
Erwin survived having his Arm bitten off. That was plot armor.
Everyone surviving the cave collapse at the end of Season 3 because Eren found his Deus Ex Hardening ability.
Almost every major character surviving the end of Season 3 Part 2.
Floch survived a full Frontal barrage of rocks from the Beast Titan.
Reiner survived by shifting his consciousness to f*cking knees.
Hange survived a Nuke because she fell into a well. Because we all know fire and heat can't travel down narrow tunnels.
Armin survived being burned to a toast long enough to be revived.
And just in general none of the scouts kicked the bucket in such a high stakes battle.
But now all of a sudden people have an issue with Plot Armor.
Floch was right. The ending shows it. The """heroes""" stopped the rumbling, and as a result, their people were genocided.
The Alliance did what Marley and the rest of humanity couldn't do, the genocide and total destruction of Paradis island.
Real Goat 🐐 are many in this series but Floch is the king 👑 when it comes to nation. No single fucking emotion.
Eren and Floch are the ones I truly support. Zeke was just a prideless bastard who wanted to "peacefully and indirectly" execute his own people simply because the world wanted it. In other words he was still unconsciously loyal to Marley. The Eldians from the alliance simply wanted to save the world who wanted to execute them even if it means all their people in their home would die as a result of their interference. Eren and Floch are true patriots who love their home and their people.
Zeke is doing it for the sake of tom ksaver and end the world hatred. Which I understand him alot
Yeah true patriots for being genocidal killing the entire earth's human population childrens and family
Alliance is literally means trying to make peace between 2 nation of Marley and Eldia. They were literally not trying to execute anyone.
Oh boy the horrors that await for patriots
@gokulrajv I know about the devastation that happens far far into the future, but there's no telling when that happens because the island was completely modernized even farther than the mainland was beforehand
@basedneutral1173 the alliance was literally massing in Marley to wipe out Paradis. Hange, Armin, Mikasa, Jean, Connie, and everyone else allied with them to try to stop the rumbling. They had no real reason to fight and nothing would go their way even if they won because if they win the alliance will just annihilate their home and all their people.
Floch in season 3 - 😨😭
Floch in season 4 - 👿😡
Floch this, Floch that, the real hero right now is the dude with the injured shoulder.
And at last what happend ?
Paradis got destroyed after many decades .
Nice job clown alliance 🤡🤭
I would like to think that if eren manages to eradicate all humanity out of paradise, they would end up destroying each other due to political differences (jagerist vs non-jagerist), the war in the world of AoT will never disappear, the destruction of eldia is inevitable.
@@zelkin1852 not even remotely true.
@@zelkin1852 LOL. Just repeat after me: The ending sucks.
@@zelkin1852 cuckold mentality
@@zelkin1852 Why are you wasting your time saying this? Yeagerists have no brain cells. Look at the simpleminded 6 yo answers.
He so badly wanted to save them all to save the world. Flochs the realest mfer there is.
Floch was always right
Yagerist to the end, based as fuck
Floch the only one who thinks straight in the full series xD all others is just nonesense why they are now allied with the ones who killed them all this time against his all time friend just wtf
You talking about Zeke?
@@ignacioruiz-retegui6196 how do i explain in simple words... Lets say your whole Life was literally be afraid of being eaten alive by a titan, you find out those titans started killing because 3 idiots destroyed a wall because hundreds of km away there's a continent that thinks you are evil and demons, now one of your friends have the habilites to destroy em all and you would ally with the ones that fucked up your life instead of fixing your fucking island from the damage? Is lore nonsense
All my friends hated floch but I supported him and understand him
Dam rip floch he the 🐐
Respect for you Floch!
Part 4 when you see what happens to Paradis because of Cuckmin and his merry band of Uncle Toms will be satisfying. Floch and Eren's choices will be proven to be correct. The Eldian race has the right to exist and fight back.
Glad Paradis later got destroyed by the Global Alliance at the end, Eldia started the violence those uncivilized barbarians got what they deserved!
@@Solaris_Paradox nah it was the outside world that started the violence
Unfortunately the anime ending made it seem like Paradis was destroyed in some far distant future, and not just a few years after the rumbling like the manga version. Normies didn't get the message.
Eren’s choice was correct but his motivations were shit, floch is a way better character than eren
sad part that he was right about everyone is gonna die in the island... eventually they did and the history repeated itself.
This guy is most badass character after levi