Interesting video, but..... You didn't address 2 important issues I am/was trying to get clarified. 1) Is this case compatable with all raspberry pi's ? and 2) can this case actually hold four 3.5" harddrives?
I'm pretty sure they didn't include a battery to avoid shipping issues (batteries are sometimes considered dangerous goods). But I would prefer if they used a more common type of battery like CR2032. I really liked this case, it looks great, but it's too expensive. In general, Raspberry Pi is no longer a good platform for most applications, especially NAS. There are either cheaper boards that perform just as well, or equally (or a bit more) expensive boards that perform better in this type of application (e.g. ZimaBoard).
excellent video. I was thinking about mentioning LVM, but having looked at the video, i believe people will google options. The only one comment comes from installation of open media vault. I think when i was installing it, there was more to it then just the drives. Typically, i usually set up a nas so any device can attach to the media server to play music,films,look at pictures and actually save stuff as backups. I think a NAS an excellent way to use a pi. I would use Argon because as you said, it's easy to setup. But the price of the argon, is about the same price of a server box, which i can store all my drive (approx 10+). I currently have a probox holding 4 drives, but as your video states, Raid over usb is not allowed. I may use a forked version of your video and combine the pi with the probox but that another project. Thanks for the info Cheers
I appreciate the author's enthusiasm. To build this is just out of fandom. It's slow, slow to take off. For less money you get a 6W intel/amd board with 16Gb of memory and 2.5gb ports (multiport). Virtualization, native disk controller included. Disks consumption the same whether in Rpi or another NAS. When you build a NAS, you will still find that the disks have consumption more than the motherboard. like Rpi, but it doesn't go with this.
What do You have in mind with same price and multi gig ethernet? Sure there are better options, sooner or later everyone will end up with qnap or synology, they just work :)
I assume you're referring to the low-power Intel N5105 or N6005 mini-itx motherboards with four Intel I226-V 2.5GbE NIC's and six SATA ports that have popped up on Aliexpress under brand names like Topton and CWWK. They also have tiny fanless firewall/router virtualization boxes without the SATA ports but with the Intel NIC's. Very cool (literally). I'm quite interested in these.
@@dktol56 i wouldn't't trust those motherboards to have good performance. N5105/6005 do not have enough pci-e lanes (8 in total 4 are used by nvme) to service 6xsata3 + 2nvme + 4x2.5gbe, so probably they are shared shomehow. max i've seen on N5105/6005 that can be fully utilized is 2x2.5gbe + 1x nvme and 2x sata3. besides, these intel chips do not have the power for more. and you will have to add your own ddr4 so-dimm memory.
RAID: What about BTRFS? It supports RAID in the filesystem. Is that a supported RAID solution for Openmediavault? I know RAID 5 is not stable in BTRFS, but RAID1 works fine.
Any RAID with USB is just bad idea, this protocol was never intended to do that. If You want to feel it - build some example on command line and then disconnect some devices occasionally, it will brake RAID and will rebuild forever. Also please note that it will take about 20% of cpu on PI and will take rather hours to complete. Think about other option like merge fs or any other sync.
Thank you for your video. I've seen it in France but the price is too much expensive, but I like the idea it's possible to do it. I'm wondering if we build the Raid in command line with mdadm before install open media vault, does it work?
software RAID can be problematic over the same USB channel (3x IOPS). Also regarding the price, it is much cheaper than an entry level hardware NAS with similar performance specs and 4 drives not 1
@@jasonhuxley674 Thanks for your reply. You're right about the price, it's still very competitive in terms of value dor money. It's too bad about the software RAID though.
@@skulver I thought companies were able to get pi's. Recently I brought a gigabyte motherboard with soldered celeron to run pi-hole since I couldn't get a pi
Hi @LearnLinuxTV , is it possible to turn this NAS into a router with 5G HAT and maybe a PiSugar battery HAT if I just use thin Samsung SSDs? If you could make an upgrade video with those, if its possible, would be amazing!
Great video but Now i have a problem......I can login to my OMV but cannot access the dashboard to see any of the other areas ...i.e. storage, filesystem, users, ect........Please help...
Neat item, Argon makes some cool cases, but I still cant reliably purchase a Pi three years later without long wait lists or overpaying on ebay. I dropped them a long time ago when it was obvious they care more for commercial products than home users.
A NAS without RAID? Doesn't that defeat the objective? Also, since the board and disks operate from a low voltage, I would like to see a UPS battery setup with automatic shutdown, that would be seriously cool.
unfortunately that is the case for this build, USB generally is not very reliable. I already have several issues regarding USB go resetting by it self for no reason, no its not a power supply issue with the HDD, its just how the USB is. now imagine during resilvering process and one of those drives connected via USB got disconnected, the best case scenario is you basicallty resilver again from start or worse, you lost the entire array along with your data. as of now, the best setup for this NAS case is just setup the drives as individual volumes and use SnapRAID.
International and Domestic shipping regulations make the act of shipping even a button cell lithium battery quite a bit more cost prohibitive, even if the cost is just more paperwork or headaches, many just avoid it all together by not including a battery. Then there's the actual risks associated with the batteries, which is why there are strict regulations, even a button cell has enough energy to start a fire given the correct conditions. Regulations, costs, storage and shipping conditions all play a role in deciding if they will include a battery. If they have a ton of these sat in a warehouse somewhere, each containing a battery that is slowing ticking away to: at best being a flat useless battery, at worst a fire starter, and a few other unwanted possibilities in between, it's a lot easier to just say nah, and not include a battery and avoid all of the problems associated. I won't even go into the headache of RMAs of the entire product for a $1.50 battery that can be found at any dollar store, walmart, heck gas station in the country...
I was totally enthralled with this video until the end. I mean, it's not possible to even set up RAID 0? What's the point of a NAS without out some RAID redundancy? Also, the fact that the HD's are required to go through the USB bus is a huge negative (I assume this is a Raspberry Pi hardware limitation). Another huge minus right now is the total lack of availability of the Pi hardware itself. Anyway, still an interesting video and as always, thank you Jay for the great content.
The battery isn't included due to shipping constraints. ALL batteries tend to be treated as fire hazard Lithium Ion these days and can only be shipped by ground.
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USB3 is the bottle neck, you can do it... its just tooooo slowwww. Just try to copy a file from on drive to another and you will see how slow it is. Pi4 Bus is still the problem it can´t handle it. I would not mind that the pi4 was bigger in size if it had more performance.
@@Pracedru Of course there are some alternatives with rpi format like indiedroid, coolpi or incoming rock 5a, all based on same SOC and in pi format. The only thing You will need is bit different usb bridge and aof course You will get same single usb3 bottleneck. Indeed there are some much better SBC's and universal cases.
Unfortunately, the approach that this video takes is not for the Raspberry Pi novice looking for help setting up a NAS. This is for the person very familiar to the Raspberry Pi platform interested in a company setup video. I would have preferred a thorough setup video with the ability to advance past areas using time stamps. These videos should be comprehensive and cater to people of all levels of experience. Post production can add time stamps to advance for differing skill levels. This video left me searching for answers. Two additional points: 1) I am surprised that it was not mentioned that of the total drives, only a maximum of 2 can be 3.5. 2) There is an internal USB port that is not well documented by the manufacturer.
Well, it's a cool idea and cool looking design, but after the trouble I had with my RockPi Sata "NAS/Cloud" solution, I cannot recommend tinkering with these USB SATA solutions. One day the SATA Platine or USB port can become faulty and cause a lot more of headaches. Having a NAS without a proper functioning RAID is IMO just a temp drive solution. If you really want to store important stuff for a lifetime, you have to make a backup of your NAS storage. You safe more time, money and work by just building a real NAS Solution with a well functioning RAID.
With Radxa at least you have some hardware RAID options and they using two USB ports to get as much as possible speed. Also without RAID there are still some other options to get some benefits of it, OMV guys points merge fs systems as default way to go and sure - You will have duplicated data and same speed. This kind of NAS is not main option, it's some kind of addon to serious NAS, one another failover.
@@dmckrk I had a lot of trouble with Radxa and it's now laying in the corner gaining dust. I have 2 of 4 slots that began making trouble over time. So no matter how cool these solutions are, these solutions are nothing for long term use. If you have the money for a real NAS, you dont need a failover. Just rely on a good working RAID system.
@@g4njawizard916 Real NAS is still a device that can be stolen or burned and when You think about that then You will realize that You need two of them in different locations. They don't have to be that fast because it's already copy. Radxa solution was not perfect, but that's because of JMS chips and their buggy firmware. I eventually managed to get it to stable work but sure - it was not easy. With this case I expect it will not reach that speeds and there is no hardware RAID. Of course if You have budget then as always synology or qnap is the way to do that.
No RAID 5? RAID over USB a problem. I run an OWC 4 drive RAID 5 using SoftRAID open a macmini. I was excited about this but all the practical info was at the end.
I have this device. I get only 6MB/s when transferring files from a computer to the NAS (and vice versa). I expected 100+MB/s. I am sharing via SMB and have the NAS connected via Ethernet to the router, am I missing something?
WOW - this is just terrible speed and something that I afraid about such thing. With radxa quad sata HAT kit and pi I was able to get about 120MB/s and 80MB/s from cheap hdd with two hardware RAIDs which is about speed of gigabit. You are not ever near that :(
@@dmckrk The drives are all shared over a single USB 3 port. So it's very much bandwidth limited. In my personal opinion, I would stick away as this is actually quite painful to use.
Nice to see something other than the typical CUBE NAS. Price point of the box and the lack of availability for the Pi's really limit it. Novel execution, poor value (for now).
Without RAID this is not a NAS solution. Its just a nice case with some extra features. If you have a Pi use the money to buy a large external USB drive to get basically the same functionality cheaper.
A Jonsbo N1 (or N2) NAS case, together with an Intel N5105 cpu/mini-itx motherboard (Aliexpress), won't cost much more than this Pi4 + NAS case, but give you five 3.5" sata drive bays and four 2.5GbE NIC's, and a lot more performance. Raspberry Pi's are still overpriced unobtainium, so I'll pass.
Well again, nothing against your video, you do a great job, but you can get refurbished stuff for nearly nothing and still have a lot more punch. Yes your power draw may be a tad superior but compared to the price tag of this plus the Raspberry Pi, it's a steal (and again, if you run no gui, I'm pretty sure you may have like 1~3 more watts on idle). Yes there will be no sparkles and but man... I get it that Raspberry pi are open source stuff on ARM etc and maybe ARM will be the future but x86 just works for now (still I would recommand Intel more than AMD on this from my experience). Coming from a Fedora user.
nice video. but as nice as this case is, having it as a nas with the rpi is a waste of hardware. no raid, a big no-go for any nas, can't even take advantage of 1 hdd speed, less so for 2 hhd's and 2 ssd's, lots of wasted perf. due to the usb3 connectivity etc. the only thing that makes some sense is having it for like a nice and small media player, or emulation station, provided that you don;t really care if a hdd dies and you lose the data. but there are already other faster and cheaper solutions for that,
155USD just for the case, now for raspberry pi.... well thats another big issue. this can easily be more expensive than a cheapest 2bay nas from synology that only cost around 200USD or less.
Well, If it doesn`t support RAID this is pretty much worthless , A $20 enclosiore from Aliexpress plugged directly into the home router USB will do the same thing for fraction of the price. And if you have a desktop PC at home , you might as well stick your hard drives into it and save even the $20 (And get a software Raid support in the process). There is no use paying $100 for a JBOD box.
You set up one disk but not the second and didn’t show us the steps after to finalize the setup and how to access the unit. Wasted a half hour of my time.
this product really don't make sense. it is cheaper to buy a 2 bay synology, that don't take up the time of building, better OS, support for raid, faster transfer speeds. the only thing i see a PI would do a synology wont is to have wireless connection
No such thing as "Powerful" Raspberry Nas. RPI Nas are slow as F#CK Raspberry Nas is project for the sake of "doing" a project. Building a NAS from Raspberry Pi for daily use is silly
You seem more comfortable in front of your camera compared to a year ago. Very inspiring!
so pleasant to watch, calm and nice voice, paired with outstanding knowledge. That`s why i subscribed, keep up your cool channel!
The shape of the case is cool.
Thanks for this! finally got some inspiration to build my own NAS
Interesting video, but..... You didn't address 2 important issues I am/was trying to get clarified. 1) Is this case compatable with all raspberry pi's ? and 2) can this case actually hold four 3.5" harddrives?
It's only compatible with Rpi4, can hold only 2 3.5" hard drives.
Referenced this video several times, thank you for your hard work on this video. I used EXT4 format with 2 HDDs. Use Rsync to backup one of them.
great review, straight and to the point. thank you!
I'm pretty sure they didn't include a battery to avoid shipping issues (batteries are sometimes considered dangerous goods). But I would prefer if they used a more common type of battery like CR2032.
I really liked this case, it looks great, but it's too expensive. In general, Raspberry Pi is no longer a good platform for most applications, especially NAS. There are either cheaper boards that perform just as well, or equally (or a bit more) expensive boards that perform better in this type of application (e.g. ZimaBoard).
I intend to use 2014 2.6ghz mac mini with 2 SSD drives for omv Nas. It's power efficiency is good, and it's well built for the price 2nd hand.
excellent video. I was thinking about mentioning LVM, but having looked at the video, i believe people will google options. The only one comment comes from installation of open media vault. I think when i was installing it, there was more to it then just the drives. Typically, i usually set up a nas so any device can attach to the media server to play music,films,look at pictures and actually save stuff as backups.
I think a NAS an excellent way to use a pi. I would use Argon because as you said, it's easy to setup. But the price of the argon, is about the same price of a server box, which i can store all my drive (approx 10+). I currently have a probox holding 4 drives, but as your video states, Raid over usb is not allowed. I may use a forked version of your video and combine the pi with the probox but that another project.
Thanks for the info
Cheers
What do we use for PI modules and case for RAID with a Pi4. Since this EON case wont allow RAID with OMV.
Do you know if or when there will be any updates for the Pi 5? Thanks
Nice to know this is an option, but the lack of support for hardrives outside of USB is a deal breaker for me. Thank you for the detailed video.
Thank you for the video. Could I ask if this is functioning well and is stable enough? How is the throughput?
Hi, are you using zv-1 as your camera to make these videos?
I saw it in your link and wanted to confirm...
You forgot to mention one crucial thing. Yes it can hold 4x HDDs / SSDs but only their 2.5" versions, not four full sized 3.5" HDDS!
Which version of Raspberry Pi are you using? I'm assuming it's Pi4 Model B, but how much RAM is necessary if I want to use it as a NAS?
I appreciate the author's enthusiasm.
To build this is just out of fandom. It's slow, slow to take off. For less money you get a 6W intel/amd board with 16Gb of memory and 2.5gb ports (multiport). Virtualization, native disk controller included. Disks consumption the same whether in Rpi or another NAS. When you build a NAS, you will still find that the disks have consumption more than the motherboard. like Rpi, but it doesn't go with this.
What do You have in mind with same price and multi gig ethernet?
Sure there are better options, sooner or later everyone will end up with qnap or synology, they just work :)
I assume you're referring to the low-power Intel N5105 or N6005 mini-itx motherboards with four Intel I226-V 2.5GbE NIC's and six SATA ports that have popped up on Aliexpress under brand names like Topton and CWWK. They also have tiny fanless firewall/router virtualization boxes without the SATA ports but with the Intel NIC's. Very cool (literally). I'm quite interested in these.
@@dktol56 i wouldn't't trust those motherboards to have good performance. N5105/6005 do not have enough pci-e lanes (8 in total 4 are used by nvme) to service 6xsata3 + 2nvme + 4x2.5gbe, so probably they are shared shomehow. max i've seen on N5105/6005 that can be fully utilized is 2x2.5gbe + 1x nvme and 2x sata3. besides, these intel chips do not have the power for more. and you will have to add your own ddr4 so-dimm memory.
Is there an updated version for Raspi5?
Would like to know this please
does this work with Pi 4 8Gb and with unraid / trueraid / proxmox ?
I'd be interested in your thoughts on the pi5, now that that's be announced for this project....
RAID: What about BTRFS? It supports RAID in the filesystem. Is that a supported RAID solution for Openmediavault? I know RAID 5 is not stable in BTRFS, but RAID1 works fine.
Any RAID with USB is just bad idea, this protocol was never intended to do that. If You want to feel it - build some example on command line and then disconnect some devices occasionally, it will brake RAID and will rebuild forever. Also please note that it will take about 20% of cpu on PI and will take rather hours to complete. Think about other option like merge fs or any other sync.
@@dmckrk who mentioned USB drives?
@@CesarPeron what other option are here available?
Thanks for the video. I wasn't aware of the RAID issue, what's the solution to that? Maybe a different hat that doesnt use the usb bus?
Thank you for your video. I've seen it in France but the price is too much expensive, but I like the idea it's possible to do it. I'm wondering if we build the Raid in command line with mdadm before install open media vault, does it work?
software RAID can be problematic over the same USB channel (3x IOPS). Also regarding the price, it is much cheaper than an entry level hardware NAS with similar performance specs and 4 drives not 1
@@jasonhuxley674 Thanks for your reply. You're right about the price, it's still very competitive in terms of value dor money. It's too bad about the software RAID though.
Where are you guys getting the pi from. It's very difficult for me 😔
@@skulver I thought companies were able to get pi's.
Recently I brought a gigabyte motherboard with soldered celeron to run pi-hole since I couldn't get a pi
I payed overprice for mine on ebay
@@TweakTechNow in my place , even at a higher price it's not available
Thank you this is great
A bit off-topic - what's the tablet (with detachable keyboard from your right side) do you use?
I am trying to figure out how to use my Argon Eon as a cloud server. Any videos would be helpful.
Hi i have a raspberry pi3b+ do you think i can buy this product? Thanks
Hi @LearnLinuxTV , is it possible to turn this NAS into a router with 5G HAT and maybe a PiSugar battery HAT if I just use thin Samsung SSDs? If you could make an upgrade video with those, if its possible, would be amazing!
Hi I don't care about the case, but the nas card for the Pi seems interesting, would love to buy it without the case, thanks for video.
Great video but Now i have a problem......I can login to my OMV but cannot access the dashboard to see any of the other areas ...i.e. storage, filesystem, users, ect........Please help...
Does it support S.M.A.R.T? How is the disk performance?
Neat item, Argon makes some cool cases, but I still cant reliably purchase a Pi three years later without long wait lists or overpaying on ebay. I dropped them a long time ago when it was obvious they care more for commercial products than home users.
I don't buy much if anything from ebay. I use Cana Kit or aPi store USA instead. Used them in the last 6 months. Good price and customer service.
wait, you can't do raid with this?
I was about to make the mistake to build rpi nas and not be able to RAID. Thanks
Please review Vanilla OS and blendOS.
Immutable OS systems are really interesting! It could make for safer and cleaner operations. The system astonishingly, can still be updated.
It seems to be a neat solution but delivery outside the US seems to be a problem. Amazon just says not available in Europe :(
A NAS without RAID? Doesn't that defeat the objective? Also, since the board and disks operate from a low voltage, I would like to see a UPS battery setup with automatic shutdown, that would be seriously cool.
unfortunately that is the case for this build, USB generally is not very reliable. I already have several issues regarding USB go resetting by it self for no reason, no its not a power supply issue with the HDD, its just how the USB is.
now imagine during resilvering process and one of those drives connected via USB got disconnected, the best case scenario is you basicallty resilver again from start or worse, you lost the entire array along with your data.
as of now, the best setup for this NAS case is just setup the drives as individual volumes and use SnapRAID.
International and Domestic shipping regulations make the act of shipping even a button cell lithium battery quite a bit more cost prohibitive, even if the cost is just more paperwork or headaches, many just avoid it all together by not including a battery. Then there's the actual risks associated with the batteries, which is why there are strict regulations, even a button cell has enough energy to start a fire given the correct conditions. Regulations, costs, storage and shipping conditions all play a role in deciding if they will include a battery. If they have a ton of these sat in a warehouse somewhere, each containing a battery that is slowing ticking away to: at best being a flat useless battery, at worst a fire starter, and a few other unwanted possibilities in between, it's a lot easier to just say nah, and not include a battery and avoid all of the problems associated.
I won't even go into the headache of RMAs of the entire product for a $1.50 battery that can be found at any dollar store, walmart, heck gas station in the country...
Battery cost is not an issue, the issue is shipping cost for items that include batteries.
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This is actually not bad. Just use sata ssds instead and you're in the races. Just a bit too expensive.
I was totally enthralled with this video until the end. I mean, it's not possible to even set up RAID 0? What's the point of a NAS without out some RAID redundancy? Also, the fact that the HD's are required to go through the USB bus is a huge negative (I assume this is a Raspberry Pi hardware limitation). Another huge minus right now is the total lack of availability of the Pi hardware itself. Anyway, still an interesting video and as always, thank you Jay for the great content.
That looks so cool, wish I could get a Pi for a reasonable price. I have a pre-order that's 2 months overdue. thanks for the great review.
The battery isn't included due to shipping constraints. ALL batteries tend to be treated as fire hazard Lithium Ion these days and can only be shipped by ground.
USB3 is the bottle neck, you can do it... its just tooooo slowwww. Just try to copy a file from on drive to another and you will see how slow it is.
Pi4 Bus is still the problem it can´t handle it.
I would not mind that the pi4 was bigger in size if it had more performance.
but... you still can't get rpi's
Why not make an example with orange pi or another SBC that you can actually get?
Ask Argon why they don't make cases for Orange Pi 5, this would instantly solve few pi limits and makes such NAS much better
@@dmckrk Maybe it could be with another case.
@@Pracedru Of course there are some alternatives with rpi format like indiedroid, coolpi or incoming rock 5a, all based on same SOC and in pi format. The only thing You will need is bit different usb bridge and aof course You will get same single usb3 bottleneck. Indeed there are some much better SBC's and universal cases.
Unfortunately, the approach that this video takes is not for the Raspberry Pi novice looking for help setting up a NAS. This is for the person very familiar to the Raspberry Pi platform interested in a company setup video. I would have preferred a thorough setup video with the ability to advance past areas using time stamps. These videos should be comprehensive and cater to people of all levels of experience. Post production can add time stamps to advance for differing skill levels. This video left me searching for answers.
Two additional points: 1) I am surprised that it was not mentioned that of the total drives, only a maximum of 2 can be 3.5. 2) There is an internal USB port that is not well documented by the manufacturer.
Thanks for this, I was thinking there's no way this could fit 4 3.5" drives!
OMV does not work in desktop environment anyways
Well, it's a cool idea and cool looking design, but after the trouble I had with my RockPi Sata "NAS/Cloud" solution, I cannot recommend tinkering with these USB SATA solutions. One day the SATA Platine or USB port can become faulty and cause a lot more of headaches. Having a NAS without a proper functioning RAID is IMO just a temp drive solution. If you really want to store important stuff for a lifetime, you have to make a backup of your NAS storage. You safe more time, money and work by just building a real NAS Solution with a well functioning RAID.
With Radxa at least you have some hardware RAID options and they using two USB ports to get as much as possible speed.
Also without RAID there are still some other options to get some benefits of it, OMV guys points merge fs systems as default way to go and sure - You will have duplicated data and same speed.
This kind of NAS is not main option, it's some kind of addon to serious NAS, one another failover.
Absolutely right .
The case looks awesome but NAS solution with RAID is useless for me
@@dmckrk I had a lot of trouble with Radxa and it's now laying in the corner gaining dust. I have 2 of 4 slots that began making trouble over time. So no matter how cool these solutions are, these solutions are nothing for long term use. If you have the money for a real NAS, you dont need a failover. Just rely on a good working RAID system.
@@g4njawizard916 Real NAS is still a device that can be stolen or burned and when You think about that then You will realize that You need two of them in different locations. They don't have to be that fast because it's already copy. Radxa solution was not perfect, but that's because of JMS chips and their buggy firmware. I eventually managed to get it to stable work but sure - it was not easy. With this case I expect it will not reach that speeds and there is no hardware RAID. Of course if You have budget then as always synology or qnap is the way to do that.
No RAID 5? RAID over USB a problem. I run an OWC 4 drive RAID 5 using SoftRAID open a macmini. I was excited about this but all the practical info was at the end.
I have this device. I get only 6MB/s when transferring files from a computer to the NAS (and vice versa). I expected 100+MB/s. I am sharing via SMB and have the NAS connected via Ethernet to the router, am I missing something?
WOW - this is just terrible speed and something that I afraid about such thing.
With radxa quad sata HAT kit and pi I was able to get about 120MB/s and 80MB/s from cheap hdd with two hardware RAIDs which is about speed of gigabit. You are not ever near that :(
@@dmckrk The drives are all shared over a single USB 3 port. So it's very much bandwidth limited. In my personal opinion, I would stick away as this is actually quite painful to use.
@@AB-fu6py It's still way too less for single USB3 port, which can get about 470MB/s with USB/SSD.
Will the indie Droid Nova fit into this build instead of the raspberry pi?
Nice to see something other than the typical CUBE NAS. Price point of the box and the lack of availability for the Pi's really limit it. Novel execution, poor value (for now).
I prefer wifi for a NAS so all devices can connect from anywhere without a cable.
Without RAID this is not a NAS solution. Its just a nice case with some extra features. If you have a Pi use the money to buy a large external USB drive to get basically the same functionality cheaper.
A Jonsbo N1 (or N2) NAS case, together with an Intel N5105 cpu/mini-itx motherboard (Aliexpress), won't cost much more than this Pi4 + NAS case, but give you five 3.5" sata drive bays and four 2.5GbE NIC's, and a lot more performance. Raspberry Pi's are still overpriced unobtainium, so I'll pass.
Another problem that I found with the pi nas is that the pi still uses sd card as boot drive, which is quite unreliable in the long run
@@waynefong5960 It is NVMe SSD boot capable and easy to set up.
You trust a knockoff intel from aliexpress with your nas?
Well again, nothing against your video, you do a great job, but you can get refurbished stuff for nearly nothing and still have a lot more punch. Yes your power draw may be a tad superior but compared to the price tag of this plus the Raspberry Pi, it's a steal (and again, if you run no gui, I'm pretty sure you may have like 1~3 more watts on idle). Yes there will be no sparkles and but man... I get it that Raspberry pi are open source stuff on ARM etc and maybe ARM will be the future but x86 just works for now (still I would recommand Intel more than AMD on this from my experience). Coming from a Fedora user.
RPI has long been unobtanium. I'd be more interested in having an insight into what their bottle neck is.
Could LVM be used in place of RAID, or would that also be unfit for USB devices?
..doesn't work with 4GB drives
nice video. but as nice as this case is, having it as a nas with the rpi is a waste of hardware. no raid, a big no-go for any nas, can't even take advantage of 1 hdd speed, less so for 2 hhd's and 2 ssd's, lots of wasted perf. due to the usb3 connectivity etc. the only thing that makes some sense is having it for like a nice and small media player, or emulation station, provided that you don;t really care if a hdd dies and you lose the data. but there are already other faster and cheaper solutions for that,
155USD just for the case, now for raspberry pi.... well thats another big issue. this can easily be more expensive than a cheapest 2bay nas from synology that only cost around 200USD or less.
Too bad this doesn't have a built-in battery backup.
I came here a man, and now after 19 minutes I feel like a woman that could out swim the other women in this video.
Well, If it doesn`t support RAID this is pretty much worthless ,
A $20 enclosiore from Aliexpress plugged directly into the home router USB will do the same thing for fraction of the price.
And if you have a desktop PC at home , you might as well stick your hard drives into it and save even the $20 (And get a software Raid support in the process).
There is no use paying $100 for a JBOD box.
At this point any products that need a Pi is set up for failure.
You set up one disk but not the second and didn’t show us the steps after to finalize the setup and how to access the unit. Wasted a half hour of my time.
this product really don't make sense. it is cheaper to buy a 2 bay synology, that don't take up the time of building, better OS, support for raid, faster transfer speeds. the only thing i see a PI would do a synology wont is to have wireless connection
No such thing as "Powerful" Raspberry Nas. RPI Nas are slow as F#CK
Raspberry Nas is project for the sake of "doing" a project.
Building a NAS from Raspberry Pi for daily use is silly
No RAID = no buy
it looks like the trash can mac
Those annoying pings with popups... STOP.