Seriously, you guys' new intro is the bomb. I thought I'd put this on in the background while studying but then my eyes were like "Mussstttt watchhhhh."
1:13:45 - Regarding the "boiling sea", even wildfire was only said to be burning on the sea, not to boil it. The only mention of boiling seas I have found are in regards to Valyria. Perhaps that means dragons, perhaps magic, perhaps something else.
Wildfire... have to admit we didn't consider that. A worthy possibility! Though I'd still lean towards dragons as the best guess we have at the moment.
Westeros History My point was that even using wildfire, the river did not boil, eliminating it as a possibility. Worthy perhaps, but it pales in comparison to dragon fire!
I believe Euron is cooking up some major voodoo with all those thousand of corpses he is throwing into the ocean. Common people blood have no power, but thousands of common people sacrifice? I can see that ripping a hole in the fabric of reality. The priests he is tieing up to the ships will serve as magical protection against the effects of the cataclism he is calling up (thats why he says the other captains should draw lots for getting a priest's corpse). He is doing it to destroy the Redwyne fleet (and a lot of his own, in the process. the ones without a priest tied up, because he could not give two fucks). That will cause his sea of blood.
An ultra-valuable piece of armor from a kingdom destroyed long ago that is capable of protecting against pretty much every normal weapon? Martin doesn't lift nearly as much from Tolkien as most other fantasy writers, but that certainly seems like an homage to the mithril armor that Bilbo gets in The Hobbit.
As you guys mentioned the bleeding star/comet again in this episode, I thought you might like this historical tidbit. Shortly before the battle of Hastings in 1066 Halley's Comet was spotted in the sky. Apparently it was also past fairly close to Earth so it seemed unusually prominent in the night's sky. It was seen as an omen of the battles to come, as Harold Godwynson, Harold Hardrada, and William the Bastard all vied for the throne of England. It makes an interesting parallel, and perhaps it was George's inspiration, for the comet seen at the start of the war of five kings.
Rewatching this makes me want Winds so much more. I wasn't sure that was possible. Thank y'all for the years of insight and wisdom! A big thank you to all the Patrons also!
I'm starting to believe that Euron does indeed have a glass candle, In a sense, only I think he is utilizing it as a glass eye. That's what he is hiding behind his eye patch.
This is surely hitting the ground running you guys... Thank you so much for doing what you are doing and keep it up! Besides Marwyn and Vayamir, Euron is an intriguing character that is sure to become an important player soon enoug. Thanks again Aziz and Ashaya!
Valyrian Steel armor properties: Hit-point multiplier X 100 Resistance against swords 0.99999999999999999999 (99.999999999999999999%) Weight 0.1 kg (Floats in water, is hollow) Can only equip after level 69 and doing the !@$%^@#%$@#$!@! to two siblings.
I always listen (and re-listen) to the podcast, but haven’t watched any videos in a long time; the new, to me at least, intro graphics are awesome. So cool to see what you included.
Thanks for all the great ideas. George may have hinted at the Valyrian steel armour ,Tyrion to Illyrio "next you'll promise me magic armour and a palace in Valyria" I'm like the Malora Hightower connection the Hightowers are sure to have a role to play. On the podcast an advert cuts you off in the last two minutes.
Could Euron killing his younger brothers back in the day have been an act of mercy rather than a sadistic one? I mean they were in extreme pain and even if it wasn't mercy surely they embraced it as such. When he went to face the drowned gods wrath, it may have been from a mindset of sorrow and justice for his actions. The fact that he didnt die might have made him angry with the god/gods since sparing his life would be denying his brothers the justice they deserved. Could have been a factor in his disbelief and mockery of the gods Just a thought. Plus it would humanize Euron a bit, something we haven't got at all yet. Could explain this to "I couldn't do the deed myself, but it was my hand that pushed him of the bridge" he was not willing to personally kill baelon but was fine with killing his other brothers. Maybe because baelon wasn't in need of death like his brothers but Euron knowing that the gods wrath isn't real and still couldn't bring himself to do the deed himself, might be proof of this theory. Or he meant he needed baelon to die before he showed up to the islands, but he showed up a day later so avoiding suspicion doesn't seem to be what he was going for. So a good question to ask is, why if the slaying of his brothers at his own hand knowing full well the punishment for such a crime, was fine with him, why is it that personally slaying another brother was something he could not do AFTER knowing that punishment was bullshit?
I believe that Aeron's visions are of a possible future, but one that will not come to pass, much like Dany's vision of Rhaego, in the house of the undying. In that sense, the little dwarf beside him is Tyrion, and the woman is Daenerys.
Havn't started watching the video yet, but already super stoked about it !! I've been waiting for this one ever since you mentionned it in your Q&As ! You guys just made my day !
Fantastic! I didn't even know I wanted this episode to exist until I saw it. Wonderful analysis as always guys - thank you for your love and enthusiasm of the material, and your dedication to making these videos that are a great joy to watch and ponder on and share.
The funny thing with Valyrian steel is that it's really only especially useful against Valyrian steel weapons. With regular steel, iron, etc you don't need special Valyrian armor because literally regular chain mail, lamellor, scale, plate - especially, coupled with a thick gambeson is enough to stop even the sharpest blade from cutting. That's the thing people get wrong about armor because of movies and whatnot but there's a reason people wore that shit for centuries - it REALLY REALLY works. Just mail, properly riveted, is enough to stop most slashing and a good amount of stabbing, to boot. Regular plate armor? Fogettaboutit. You have a better chance taking your sword in your hands by the blade and hitting the guy in the head with the hilt. It's called a 'murderstroke' and that's one of the ways people dealt with heavy armor back then when armed with a sword because the blade wasn't doing SHIT against it.
Oh my gosh, I'm SO happy you guys are doing a discussion of this chapter! I was honestly waiting for one of the awesome ASOIAF discussion channels/blogs and I'm so glad you're doing it this early after the fan released transcript. :) Wonderful job.
This chapter proves ppl can spot Valyrian steel when they see it. Joe Magician did a podcast with Gray Area about the White Walkers. In it, he said the White Walkers in AGOT Prologue could not possibly have thought Waymar Royce had a Valyrian steel sword, because people cannot identify Valyrian steel just by seeing it with their plain eye. I wouldn't take time to point this out if he didn't rule it entirely by taking such a hard stance on the idea.
T.K. Perhaps the average human can’t but the magic, mysterious Others could. If it is the material of their undoing, perhaps they’re even particularly sensitive to it-to the strange sound of it moving through the air, to the peculiar refraction of light against it, to its general pulsing “heat” or lingering tells of its mystical forging.
If Euron is the new bloodstone emperor, then cersei can be considered the tiger woman that he marries. Tigers and lions (lannister sigil) are both cats. And cersei is as cruel as they come. Maggy the frogs prophecy for Cersei wedding the king... can also be true if she also marries a King Euron. Euron seems to have a lot of bastards. Cersei is still young enough to have more children. then again I could be wrong :-)
So glad yall are back doing book topics! I'm not watching anymore of the show until TWOW comes out so I couldn't watch any of your show related videos. Great video btw, I went and read the Aeron chapter before listening to this, I didn't even know he read another one. THANK YOU.
I thought the "The Sphinx is the riddle, not the riddler" was. Alleras the Sphinx who is the riddle, not the Riddler. As Alleras == Sarella. Sarella sand Oberons missing 4th daughter. Sam remarks the line when he/she introduces her self in the last Samwell chapter of AFFC. +preston Jacobs goes over this in his deeper Dorne Videos. It has been referred to by many UA-camrs I thought this mystery was resolved.
They've got a lot more than just holy blood, they were draining the blood of the folks they'd just conquered. There's also mention of the swollen sow of a ship (I don't have the books in front of me or I'd quote) thats been repeated, first at Blackwater Bay and again with Vic. Great stuff though guys.
So glad you guys do this! Between Westeros History and Radio Westeros, and many other podcasters material keeps me involved in TWOIAF until the day WOW comes out. Patiently waiting... The void of rich stories encouraged me to dust of my collection of Dune books lol! Keep up the awesome work Westeros History!
Loved this episode! Really like the video editing, and the graphics you've included. If only all of your videos could look this good, including your live episode reviews.
In terms of Aeron's first vision of Urri, there's a contradiction in it. The vision appears to challenge and/or destroy Aeron's faith, however, the fact that he's speaking to someone who's dead contradicts the assertion that there's no afterlife. That aspect of the vision has to be taken into account as well.
If you're still doing the thing where you get people to go to audible.com from your link, here's an audiobook that's continuously blown me away with real history parallels to asoiaf. It's called "Music as a Mirror of History" (but it's much more about history than music). For example, in Russia there was a series of false Dmitri's that parallels the fAegon plot. We all know that GRRM was inspired by history, but the specifics here are pretty amazing.
also your views on the necessity of the whole slavers bay storyline. I doubt it is irrelevant as many people claim, there is obviously a deep reason for including such a large plotline into the story. I think there may be a tie in to Sothoryos too. the ghiscari slaver who was dying slowly from a disease caught there was mentioned for a reason I believe.
Regarding the sphinx. I'm mid reread and noticed that when ned and when tyrion both enter , and meet the kings counsil for first time, they make notice of two sphinxes. Interesting to notice that in Neds chapter he describes the the whole room, and in Tyrion's he only makes notice of the Sphinxes. So possible sphinx, is the kings counsil?... just a bit of a tinfoil idea, but thought it was interesting.
This is a new look presentation. How long can the lady keep up the bright smiles and lively head movements. Hand movements from the lad. Fair play to ye.
Did you guys get a new camera? The video is looking AMAZING! So glad to see your breakdown of this chapter, too. Looking forward to what else you've got in store for us in the GOT off-season.
Where else would he get a Dragonhorn and a Valyrian Suit of armor? Think about it the Doom only happen 500 years prior to this, during the Doom thousands of men died in Valyrian steel armor suits, their bodies would be gone but the armor would still be there. I believe he's been there and I think it inspired him to bring the "Doom" to Westeros. I also think the Warlocks gave him some power/object because he obviously has a way to defeat the Redwynes who outnumber him 10-1, I think hell end out summoning a Kraken, defeating the Redwynes and meeting Dany at the God's Eye (HINT HINT)
will you guys do a video on the iron bank and the ways they have influenced events in the past as well as their present intentions/influence on the various plotlines?
"a shadow in woman's form" with pale fire on her hands could also mean Missandei. Missandei could be in league with Euron. The pale fire could merely be an allusion to her manipulating Daenerys.
that would be great, but we'd already arranged for a local guest before we made his acquaintance (before this chapter even came out, actually). We'll have to have him on for something else down the line.
The Cthulhu on the Iron Throne could actually be an allusion to the Faceless Men. Having a face of tentacles isn't exactly having a face. The shadow in woman's form could be the character who ends up killing Daenerys. The god of the Faceless Men may be the Bloodstone Emperor.
"...burning on a boiling blood red sea.." = the Sea of Sighs in Old Valyria. The tentacled emperor on the Iron Throne may not be Euron. Aeron merely assumes Cthulhu is Euron.
I was pretty bummed that Victarion was cut out of the show. Maybe after Euron kills every Greyjoy except Asha and Theon, Theon kills him/snaps. But also dies himself leaving Asha to rule Iron Islands?
Yeah, imma gonna need G.R.R.M to work his plot magic to get that armor to Jon or Dany. Also, if a white Walker could take out Euron (preferably in a slow painful way) that would be greeeaaaaaaaat
Re: No old gods on the iron throne: are they ever mentioned as being truly 'separate' from the earthly features they are associated with? They seem more the spirit of the rock, the spirit of the earth, tree, etc, than some 'Old Crone, Patron of the Dirt,' or what have you. There is no personification to these old gods (as far as my limited memory of the text serves.) That doesn't rule out that there might be some older knowledge which personified them more. But I never really saw the religion of the old gods as such, and always thought of it as a good contrast to the other faiths. The religion of the north doesn't see such a separation in their gods. There is no 'patron of the earth', so much as the earth ITSELF is filled with divinity. This is in stark contrast to a faith like the 7, which has a very anthropomorphic, personified patron for different virtues and aspects of life. This is why Euron simply burns the forest. There is no deity figure associated with the trees, the trees themselves are the god-spirit. Euron would need to be seen as 'killing' The Mother, instead of just doing away with the concept of mercy, to do away with the 7. The god and concept they represent are separate in other religions, but are the same thing in the religion of the north, so he only needs to attack the one thing: the trees. Euron wants to become the God On Earth. Personally, I don't think he believes in gods, he simply (and rightly) believes in the power of magic. And he's going to use and abuse and manipulate these magics to ascend to such a state of power that people will THINK him a god. And that will be enough. Power lies where men believe it lies. If Westeros THINKS Euron is a god, then for all intents and purposes, he will be. And if he can successfully do away with the other religions' deities, whether tree or Mother, all the more reason to bow down before him instead of another.
Seriously, you guys' new intro is the bomb. I thought I'd put this on in the background while studying but then my eyes were like "Mussstttt watchhhhh."
haha i concur
1:13:45 - Regarding the "boiling sea", even wildfire was only said to be burning on the sea, not to boil it. The only mention of boiling seas I have found are in regards to Valyria. Perhaps that means dragons, perhaps magic, perhaps something else.
Wildfire... have to admit we didn't consider that. A worthy possibility! Though I'd still lean towards dragons as the best guess we have at the moment.
Westeros History My point was that even using wildfire, the river did not boil, eliminating it as a possibility. Worthy perhaps, but it pales in comparison to dragon fire!
Oh I see, I misunderstood! Dragonfire does seem to be the hottest thing we're told about, other than "the fires of the earth" apparently.
I believe Euron is cooking up some major voodoo with all those thousand
of corpses he is throwing into the ocean. Common people blood have no
power, but thousands of common people sacrifice? I can see that ripping a
hole in the fabric of reality. The priests he is tieing up to the ships
will serve as magical protection against the effects of the cataclism
he is calling up (thats why he says the other captains should draw lots
for getting a priest's corpse). He is doing it to destroy the Redwyne
fleet (and a lot of his own, in the process. the ones without a priest
tied up, because he could not give two fucks). That will cause his sea of blood.
Sam Vimes
Its called an "Ironborn bloodpudding".
having the text onscreen as you read is a welcome addition!
Yes! All the extra production value really ups their game
An ultra-valuable piece of armor from a kingdom destroyed long ago that is capable of protecting against pretty much every normal weapon? Martin doesn't lift nearly as much from Tolkien as most other fantasy writers, but that certainly seems like an homage to the mithril armor that Bilbo gets in The Hobbit.
Agree, valyrian steel is a bit like "evil mithril" or "dark mithril" or something along those lines.
stanklepoot Why didn't the Mithril prevent the spider's stinger from piercing Frodo?
As you guys mentioned the bleeding star/comet again in this episode, I thought you might like this historical tidbit. Shortly before the battle of Hastings in 1066 Halley's Comet was spotted in the sky. Apparently it was also past fairly close to Earth so it seemed unusually prominent in the night's sky. It was seen as an omen of the battles to come, as Harold Godwynson, Harold Hardrada, and William the Bastard all vied for the throne of England. It makes an interesting parallel, and perhaps it was George's inspiration, for the comet seen at the start of the war of five kings.
Rewatching this makes me want Winds so much more. I wasn't sure that was possible. Thank y'all for the years of insight and wisdom! A big thank you to all the Patrons also!
look at that video quality. Those Patreon bucks are being well spent.
I've waited my whole life for this... well, a few weeks.
That was great, made me laugh.
It feels like ages lol. I'm glad we finally have a fix
Euron's Dream Horn: The 3 creatures may refer to locations in Westeros: Kraken = Iron Islands, Dragon = Dragonstone, Sphinx = Oldtown. Or genetic lineages: Kraken = Greyjoy, Dragon = Valyrian, Velaryon, Celtigar, Dayne, Sphinx = Martell (fusion of Nymeria and Mors Martell)
Since I just trademarked " Godless pissing" I thank you for my fortune,
I only just now realized that Damphair means Damp Hair. I always just thought it some Ironborn word pronounced Dampfair.
What if Tyrion was a Chimera? He would then have both Lion parts and dragon parts, being made of this and that?
Aziz's Ilyrio impersonation killed me! Had to rewind and listen again.
I read this chapter, the best version, then went to bed and had NIGHTMARES. For the first time in years.
I'm starting to believe that Euron does indeed have a glass candle, In a sense, only I think he is utilizing it as a glass eye. That's what he is hiding behind his eye patch.
Much like Aemond One-Eye did with a chunk of sapphire I the dance of the dragons.
This is surely hitting the ground running you guys... Thank you so much for doing what you are doing and keep it up! Besides Marwyn and Vayamir, Euron is an intriguing character that is sure to become an important player soon enoug. Thanks again Aziz and Ashaya!
Valyrian Steel armor properties:
Hit-point multiplier X 100
Resistance against swords 0.99999999999999999999 (99.999999999999999999%)
Weight 0.1 kg (Floats in water, is hollow)
Can only equip after level 69 and doing the !@$%^@#%$@#$!@! to two siblings.
I always listen (and re-listen) to the podcast, but haven’t watched any videos in a long time; the new, to me at least, intro graphics are awesome. So cool to see what you included.
When I first saw via my phone Ashaya's hat I thought it was a wizards hat. With my laptop I can see now it's almost as cool with the kraken.
Now I'm thinking of... Kraken Wizards. Be afraid.
Thanks for all the great ideas.
George may have hinted at the Valyrian steel armour ,Tyrion to Illyrio "next you'll promise me magic armour and a palace in Valyria"
I'm like the Malora Hightower connection the Hightowers are sure to have a role to play.
On the podcast an advert cuts you off in the last two minutes.
"a shadow in woman's form" is Quaithe. We've never seen Quaithe's face. Quaithe is using glass candles to communicate with Daenerys.
This was one my favorite episodes. Great job, the quality really shows.
Could Euron killing his younger brothers back in the day have been an act of mercy rather than a sadistic one? I mean they were in extreme pain and even if it wasn't mercy surely they embraced it as such. When he went to face the drowned gods wrath, it may have been from a mindset of sorrow and justice for his actions. The fact that he didnt die might have made him angry with the god/gods since sparing his life would be denying his brothers the justice they deserved. Could have been a factor in his disbelief and mockery of the gods Just a thought. Plus it would humanize Euron a bit, something we haven't got at all yet. Could explain this to "I couldn't do the deed myself, but it was my hand that pushed him of the bridge" he was not willing to personally kill baelon but was fine with killing his other brothers. Maybe because baelon wasn't in need of death like his brothers but Euron knowing that the gods wrath isn't real and still couldn't bring himself to do the deed himself, might be proof of this theory. Or he meant he needed baelon to die before he showed up to the islands, but he showed up a day later so avoiding suspicion doesn't seem to be what he was going for. So a good question to ask is, why if the slaying of his brothers at his own hand knowing full well the punishment for such a crime, was fine with him, why is it that personally slaying another brother was something he could not do AFTER knowing that punishment was bullshit?
Greyscale brother sure but killing a retarded person. That's completely fucked up.
It's like killing a child almost imo
I believe that Aeron's visions are of a possible future, but one that will not come to pass, much like Dany's vision of Rhaego, in the house of the undying. In that sense, the little dwarf beside him is Tyrion, and the woman is Daenerys.
Havn't started watching the video yet, but already super stoked about it !! I've been waiting for this one ever since you mentionned it in your Q&As ! You guys just made my day !
Definitely the best A Song of Ice and Fire channel out there. Keep up the great work guys!
Fantastic! I didn't even know I wanted this episode to exist until I saw it. Wonderful analysis as always guys - thank you for your love and enthusiasm of the material, and your dedication to making these videos that are a great joy to watch and ponder on and share.
The funny thing with Valyrian steel is that it's really only especially useful against Valyrian steel weapons. With regular steel, iron, etc you don't need special Valyrian armor because literally regular chain mail, lamellor, scale, plate - especially, coupled with a thick gambeson is enough to stop even the sharpest blade from cutting. That's the thing people get wrong about armor because of movies and whatnot but there's a reason people wore that shit for centuries - it REALLY REALLY works. Just mail, properly riveted, is enough to stop most slashing and a good amount of stabbing, to boot. Regular plate armor? Fogettaboutit. You have a better chance taking your sword in your hands by the blade and hitting the guy in the head with the hilt. It's called a 'murderstroke' and that's one of the ways people dealt with heavy armor back then when armed with a sword because the blade wasn't doing SHIT against it.
Oh my gosh, I'm SO happy you guys are doing a discussion of this chapter! I was honestly waiting for one of the awesome ASOIAF discussion channels/blogs and I'm so glad you're doing it this early after the fan released transcript. :) Wonderful job.
This chapter proves ppl can spot Valyrian steel when they see it. Joe Magician did a podcast with Gray Area about the White Walkers. In it, he said the White Walkers in AGOT Prologue could not possibly have thought Waymar Royce had a Valyrian steel sword, because people cannot identify Valyrian steel just by seeing it with their plain eye.
I wouldn't take time to point this out if he didn't rule it entirely by taking such a hard stance on the idea.
T.K. Perhaps the average human can’t but the magic, mysterious Others could. If it is the material of their undoing, perhaps they’re even particularly sensitive to it-to the strange sound of it moving through the air, to the peculiar refraction of light against it, to its general pulsing “heat” or lingering tells of its mystical forging.
Man that intro never gets old! Can wait to listen to this episode. Thanks guys!
I'd say the tall cruel woman with flame hands in Aeron's vision is Cersei.
If Euron is the new bloodstone emperor, then cersei can be considered the tiger woman that he marries. Tigers and lions (lannister sigil) are both cats. And cersei is as cruel as they come. Maggy the frogs prophecy for Cersei wedding the king... can also be true if she also marries a King Euron. Euron seems to have a lot of bastards. Cersei is still young enough to have more children. then again I could be wrong :-)
Marwyn is the sphinx. He is aligned to the Others - mentions the he has worked with "older powers".
So glad yall are back doing book topics! I'm not watching anymore of the show until TWOW comes out so I couldn't watch any of your show related videos. Great video btw, I went and read the Aeron chapter before listening to this, I didn't even know he read another one. THANK YOU.
I thought the "The Sphinx is the riddle, not the riddler" was. Alleras the Sphinx who is the riddle, not the Riddler. As Alleras == Sarella. Sarella sand Oberons missing 4th daughter. Sam remarks the line when he/she introduces her self in the last Samwell chapter of AFFC. +preston Jacobs goes over this in his deeper Dorne Videos. It has been referred to by many UA-camrs I thought this mystery was resolved.
Feels like I've waited for so long for this episode! Thank you so much guys
They've got a lot more than just holy blood, they were draining the blood of the folks they'd just conquered. There's also mention of the swollen sow of a ship (I don't have the books in front of me or I'd quote) thats been repeated, first at Blackwater Bay and again with Vic. Great stuff though guys.
That intro was pretty damn good
So glad you guys do this! Between Westeros History and Radio Westeros, and many other podcasters material keeps me involved in TWOIAF until the day WOW comes out. Patiently waiting... The void of rich stories encouraged me to dust of my collection of Dune books lol! Keep up the awesome work Westeros History!
Loved this episode! Really like the video editing, and the graphics you've included. If only all of your videos could look this good, including your live episode reviews.
No kidding, just takes toooo long to do that when we have to get them out quickly. We love being able to use our good camera instead of the webcam.
Guys, the video quality is amazing! Great improvment, I'm guessing that's the benefit of patreon... Keep it up!
In terms of Aeron's first vision of Urri, there's a contradiction in it. The vision appears to challenge and/or destroy Aeron's faith, however, the fact that he's speaking to someone who's dead contradicts the assertion that there's no afterlife. That aspect of the vision has to be taken into account as well.
If you're still doing the thing where you get people to go to audible.com from your link, here's an audiobook that's continuously blown me away with real history parallels to asoiaf. It's called "Music as a Mirror of History" (but it's much more about history than music). For example, in Russia there was a series of false Dmitri's that parallels the fAegon plot. We all know that GRRM was inspired by history, but the specifics here are pretty amazing.
Well done video guys. Got to be your best produced video yet.
tnx so much for the link to the transcript! 😀
Good to see you're back.
Yes! I was wondering when u guys were gonna drop a video for this - great job
It's here! Omg...
I'm only a few minutes in and it looks fantastic guys! Missed y'all!
Great new look and an excellent job. Your analysis is the best!
I have said it before, but still a great intro. Well done.
Solid production. Very crisp.
outro polka is the new thing! awesome!
also your views on the necessity of the whole slavers bay storyline. I doubt it is irrelevant as many people claim, there is obviously a deep reason for including such a large plotline into the story. I think there may be a tie in to Sothoryos too. the ghiscari slaver who was dying slowly from a disease caught there was mentioned for a reason I believe.
You folks only improve and improve on your already quality podcast. Much thanks, keep it up
Sphinxes are just metaphor for maesters, cause sphinxes are known as keepers of knowledge.
Regarding the sphinx. I'm mid reread and noticed that when ned and when tyrion both enter , and meet the kings counsil for first time, they make notice of two sphinxes. Interesting to notice that in Neds chapter he describes the the whole room, and in Tyrion's he only makes notice of the Sphinxes. So possible sphinx, is the kings counsil?... just a bit of a tinfoil idea, but thought it was interesting.
Oh my!!!!!!!! Wonderful Surprise this week
This is a new look presentation. How long can the lady keep up the bright smiles and lively head movements. Hand movements from the lad. Fair play to ye.
The best end to Euron would be to see a Kraken FINALLY pull the Silence and Euron below the waves... for good. Very easy to end THAT plot line....
A bit shallow but it must be said. Ashaya is a GORGEOUS woman.
Oh my, the puns! The horrible puns!
P.S. Loved the video!
Still my favorite! Makes me nostalgic for Balticon! We had so much fun!! :)
Nice cam improvement!! Congrats guys!
Really liking the border. Video quality looks great too.👍👍
That Euron is a bad egg.
Did you guys get a new camera? The video is looking AMAZING! So glad to see your breakdown of this chapter, too. Looking forward to what else you've got in store for us in the GOT off-season.
Where else would he get a Dragonhorn and a Valyrian Suit of armor? Think about it the Doom only happen 500 years prior to this, during the Doom thousands of men died in Valyrian steel armor suits, their bodies would be gone but the armor would still be there. I believe he's been there and I think it inspired him to bring the "Doom" to Westeros. I also think the Warlocks gave him some power/object because he obviously has a way to defeat the Redwynes who outnumber him 10-1, I think hell end out summoning a Kraken, defeating the Redwynes and meeting Dany at the God's Eye (HINT HINT)
You guys are awesome. Have loved your videos and attention to detail.
OMG, just started the video... brilliant intro... beautiful... I love it. :)
Fascinating breakdown.
If Euron gets Dany drinking shade of the evening it might make her go crazy
Or maybe hot hands is arienne Martel
will you guys do a video on the iron bank and the ways they have influenced events in the past as well as their present intentions/influence on the various plotlines?
Forced down our throats? Great episode.
LOVING this episode! I need TWoW NOW!
That glorious 30fps!
Intro is great!
like the intro
"a shadow in woman's form" with pale fire on her hands could also mean Missandei. Missandei could be in league with Euron. The pale fire could merely be an allusion to her manipulating Daenerys.
the sphynx is a symbol of old valyria
Very true, and there's evidence they made sphinxes via blood magic.
This chapter is amazing!
Ahahah Ashaya looks so cute with her hat!
My ultimate dream would be to see Poor Quentyn as a guest on your upcoming Euron episode.
that would be great, but we'd already arranged for a local guest before we made his acquaintance (before this chapter even came out, actually). We'll have to have him on for something else down the line.
Westeros History Oh! Well I can say I am even more excited about hearing that local guest discuss anything Ironborn :)
Oh yeah I figured you'd know who I meant! ;)
BTW, Yiti and the Empire of the Dawn is one of my favorite topics in TWOIAF. So, if you need any help researching, let me know.
The Cthulhu on the Iron Throne could actually be an allusion to the Faceless Men. Having a face of tentacles isn't exactly having a face. The shadow in woman's form could be the character who ends up killing Daenerys. The god of the Faceless Men may be the Bloodstone Emperor.
I hope "Faegon" uses Euron for his ships and men and then has his chi-mo fed to a real kraken.
Love the intro! Great job.
"...burning on a boiling blood red sea.." = the Sea of Sighs in Old Valyria. The tentacled emperor on the Iron Throne may not be Euron. Aeron merely assumes Cthulhu is Euron.
I was pretty bummed that Victarion was cut out of the show. Maybe after Euron kills every Greyjoy except Asha and Theon, Theon kills him/snaps. But also dies himself leaving Asha to rule Iron Islands?
Kickass opening
Yeah, imma gonna need G.R.R.M to work his plot magic to get that armor to Jon or Dany.
Also, if a white Walker could take out Euron (preferably in a slow painful way) that would be greeeaaaaaaaat
Sweet been waitin for this one
Wow you all know your ice and fire , nice analysis love your content !!!
Re: No old gods on the iron throne: are they ever mentioned as being truly 'separate' from the earthly features they are associated with? They seem more the spirit of the rock, the spirit of the earth, tree, etc, than some 'Old Crone, Patron of the Dirt,' or what have you.
There is no personification to these old gods (as far as my limited memory of the text serves.) That doesn't rule out that there might be some older knowledge which personified them more. But I never really saw the religion of the old gods as such, and always thought of it as a good contrast to the other faiths. The religion of the north doesn't see such a separation in their gods. There is no 'patron of the earth', so much as the earth ITSELF is filled with divinity. This is in stark contrast to a faith like the 7, which has a very anthropomorphic, personified patron for different virtues and aspects of life.
This is why Euron simply burns the forest. There is no deity figure associated with the trees, the trees themselves are the god-spirit. Euron would need to be seen as 'killing' The Mother, instead of just doing away with the concept of mercy, to do away with the 7. The god and concept they represent are separate in other religions, but are the same thing in the religion of the north, so he only needs to attack the one thing: the trees.
Euron wants to become the God On Earth. Personally, I don't think he believes in gods, he simply (and rightly) believes in the power of magic. And he's going to use and abuse and manipulate these magics to ascend to such a state of power that people will THINK him a god. And that will be enough.
Power lies where men believe it lies. If Westeros THINKS Euron is a god, then for all intents and purposes, he will be. And if he can successfully do away with the other religions' deities, whether tree or Mother, all the more reason to bow down before him instead of another.
Awesome Intro guys
I think the long tall woman is the Night Queen
loving the new intro😀
Preston called it the battle of blood first!!! House summerchild kind of the north!!
awesome intro, love it.
Damphair's and Jamie's dreams and visions have similarities and may intersect with Euron and foreshadow Cersei's fate
Hey, great intro! Keep up the great content!